I Need Advice For Software

[ninjamonkey]

what can i use to clean out my comp of files i dont need such as temp files? shouldn't i have somehting already on my computer that i can run to do this?

[sharedholder]

Window Washer?

[muchspl2]

window washer is a nifty program, download.com should still have it
beware lots of virus attached on the kazaa version

[Jay]

disk cleanup in system tools

[Rip The Jacker]

Ultra WinCleaner 2002:

- Cleans temp junk
- Cleans invaild registry keys
- Cleans other crap
- Comes with "undo" feature incase you screw up
- Works without any installation, just open and use it
- 924KB

If you want it, search for it in Kazaa Lite.

[konnie]

http://www.webattack.com/freeware/system/fwdiskclean.html

[nikita69]

with all due respect to the above, technically speaking and from a privacy concern view, there isn't a software in the public domain like Evidence Eliminator. go to there site see for urself why. in order to eliminate data from hd & mem, creator MUST be a scientist in both, not an expert (like the rest of the software available.

[james_bond_rulez]

norton system works 2004 pro

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by nikita69@7 November 2003 - 02:10
with all due respect to the above, technically speaking and from a privacy concern view, there isn't a software in the public domain like Evidence Eliminator. go to there site see for urself why. in order to eliminate data from hd & mem, creator MUST be a scientist in both, not an expert (like the rest of the software available.
that is true almost nothing ( well a hammer would) will get rid of your data on the hard drive, don't even bother telling me you formated or what software you used.

as far as just geting rid of crap like temp files on your pc you can do that manualy or if you want just use window washer its easy (becarefull with your settings tho)http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/w/thumbs.gif

[james_bond_rulez]

norton's wipe info , which uses America Nation Defense approved digital shredding standard,called government wipe, is a 7 step procedure and overwrites ur data with hex codes. you can repeat this precedure as many time as you like and will be garenteed inretreivable

however if you use win me or xp be sure to disable window restore/and restore points (government wipe those restore point files) to make sure you complete SHRED those unwanted porn... :lol:

[ninjamonkey]

on download.com all i found was webroot window washer 5.0. is that the one?

[ninjamonkey]

also, will windows washer clean up my registry?

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@7 November 2003 - 05:23
norton's wipe info , which uses America Nation Defense approved digital shredding standard,called government wipe, is a 7 step procedure and overwrites ur data with hex codes. you can repeat this precedure as many time as you like and will be garenteed inretreivable

however if you use win me or xp be sure to disable window restore/and restore points (government wipe those restore point files) to make sure you complete SHRED those unwanted porn... :lol:
nope sorry i can still get those files off your hd bosshttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/b/smiley2k.gif

@ninjamonkey yes thats the one, the idea is to either download that and then find a serial for it or look in klite or emule and find a full version to download, no matter what you need the full version, for registry clean use registry mechanics go here (http://www.winguides.com/?ref=regnow)

[fkdup74]

Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@8 November 2003 - 12:19
nope sorry i can still get those files off your hd bosshttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/b/smiley2k.gif
MM could have a point, i got an "evidence elimimator" prog, and after a few drive zaps i checked out one of those recovery tools and SWEAR i saw some stuff that was supposed to have been made "unrecoverable" by the prog, so....?????

[I.am]

Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@8 November 2003 - 15:19
nope sorry i can still get those files off your hd bosshttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/b/smiley2k.gif

Technically speaking, all these programs are worth nothing. But you cannot always get the files back. 99% times you can but sometimes the file structure can be overwritten and the empty disk space can be shredded. Programmers know the structure of hard drives and how the restoring a file works.

But most commonly anything can be recovered. All shredders are mythical softwares.

[Supernatural]

Originally posted by I.am@8 November 2003 - 17:55
...anything can be recovered....
Not if you use government wipe! :D

[I.am]

Originally posted by Supernatural+8 November 2003 - 19:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Supernatural @ 8 November 2003 - 19:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-I.am@8 November 2003 - 17:55
...anything can be recovered....
Not if you use government wipe&#33; :D [/b][/quote]
When I say anything, I mean anything...
(I mentioned 99% times it can be done)

Even the government agencies physically destroy their hdd if the data cannot be compromised at any expense.

If you do want to know:

The most common methods used in industry and the military are:

1) Acid batch. The disk media are placed in an acid bath (usually HCL acid) until the magnetic coating is completely etched away. This can, of course, be done at home since HCL is readily available. Sulfuric acid will work also and can be obtained at any auto supply house.

2) Grinding. While industry uses machines that essentially plane the surface of the media and remove the coating you can do the same with a small body grinder and a sanding disc. The coating is very thin and only a light grinding/sanding will remove it entirely.

If you talk to any person in this field. The answer will be the same.

[Supernatural]

So you telling me you can recover a document I deleted 5 years ago? I doubt that.

[mr-rain]

Ashampoo Optimizer Suite Is The Best I&#39;ve Found.
Removes redundant files, dll&#39;s, registry entries, along with any other crap that&#39;s laying around. LOTS OF OPTIONS B)

[nikita69]

@Supernatural/Iam - I&#39;ve dealt with the engineering of hard drive since 86 and until today and besides what Iam mentioned (true) ONLY the manufacturer of the hd can 100% destroy the data and be able to reuse the hd.

The trick is ZeroFill, it&#39;s a lengthy process that requires specific equipements (won&#39;t bore u with the details) and an engineer of such manufacturer. there are companies today that say they use this technology in their software, yet the success ratio is close to what the gov does, around 75-90%.

each manufacturer has their own ZeroFill process and one cannot work on another.

so, if anyone is ever concerned about the data and want to Zerofill, contact the hd manuf directly, no 3rd party, and ask for how much and/or if they can send u their free zerofill utility (90% ratio).

software company&#39;s these days are using fancy shmanzy name and words to sell their product and their marketing dept has done the research and found that the majority of PC users are unknowledgable about such technology

rarely users research on their own and make their own LOGICAL decisions. After all, we dealing with ZERO & ONE.

[I.am]

@nikita69, yup but even Zerofill is not the most secured one. Chances are that 99% can be recovered if not physically destroyed. Even demagnetizing doesnt help at all. The 0&#39;s and 1&#39;s can be realigned.
However the process with Zerofill basically write patterns of all 0&#39;s to the harddrive media. It starts by writing on the empty space of the hdd and then over the data . It makes very hard to recover. But I have heard cases where data has been recovered, obviously not by simple means.

[I.am]

ZeroFill Utility (http://sw.adhoc.ch/DRIVERS/quantum/ZEROFILL%20UTILITY.htm) for those who are interested to know more.

[I.am]

Originally posted by Supernatural@8 November 2003 - 20:44
So you telling me you can recover a document I deleted 5 years ago? I doubt that.
5 yrs :rolleyes: I am talking the very first file you ever created on your hdd.

[Supernatural]

How is that possible if the surface has been written and rewritten countless times?&#33;?&#33; A time machine? :huh:

[ninjamonkey]

Originally posted by Supernatural@9 November 2003 - 05:24
How is that possible if the surface has been written and rewritten countless times?&#33;?&#33; A time machine? :huh:
ha. same question here.

[leecheskicked]

I think 5years would be pushing it, though i bet an expert could still recover parts of those files&#33; The only reliable method is a very large hammer&#33; after you remove the discs themselves of course, though i suspect one of those electromagnets they use in scrapyard to lift wrecked cars might also do a pretty effective wipe job, though i doubt it would be reusable :D

[opivykid]

How the hell? How could you pull that off though? And if it&#39;s still keeping the information, then doesn&#39;t that take up space with like memory and that? And would you be able to like do something so that it like wouldn&#39;t be possible to find a file from THAT long ago? Weird as hell.

confused.........

[muchspl2]

http://www.jetico.com/


that cleans up any thing you want to get rid of, and it wipes slack space, can&#39;t beat it as a secerity tool