Flag Discretion?

[volskid2002]

im trying to find something out for my civis and economics class. i need to know is flag discretion legal? is it legal to burn the American flag?

[Octopussy]

i dont think so lol....i think u have to eat it if u wana get rid of it

[Damnatory]

It's certainly not illegal to burn an American flag, as that is the method used to retire old flags.
Though if done in vain it's not looked well upon by law enforcment, and is sort of viewed as anti-American activist behavior...

Though some people are trying to amend the constitution to state that this is illegal.

Read This for more info! (http://www.aclu.org/FreeSpeech/FreeSpeech.cfm?ID=9969&c=50)

[sparsely]

Yes, be very discreet about your flag discretion :rolleyes:

[MagicNakor]

It's not illegal. It's just usually not looked kindly upon. But law enforcement can't do anything about it. ;)

:ninja:

[Broken]

no, it's not ilegal...
however, you are very, very, likely to get you butt kicked if you do it just about anywhere but behind closed doors.

[sparsely]

only by violence-prone morons, which I realize the country is full of...
it's just a swatch of fucking cotton. If you spend the money on a flag just to burn it up, good for your dumbass.
Just don't set my goddamn grass on fire.

[sparsely]

p.s.

It's desecration

[Evil Gemini]

Flag burning should be illegal.

Same for Australia.

What is it that they are trying to say ? Americans/Australian (whatever) should burn in hell ??

Thats the only thing i can think of when people burn the flags of countries.

[TheDave]

flag burnings cool. when i see the stars and stripes burning i see it as an insult to the government and laugh at the others who take offence

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by TheDave@7 November 2003 - 11:03
flag burnings cool. when i see the stars and stripes burning i see it as an insult to the government and laugh at the others who take offence
@dave - harsh words - :angry:

@volskid - your learnin about flag burning in econ? WTF? does learning about flag burning help you to calculate the nations real GDP? :huh:

[volskid2002]

@volskid - your learnin about flag burning in econ? WTF? does learning about flag burning help you to calculate the nations real GDP?
im not sure i guess its the civis part becuase thats about citzenship and all that

[leonidas]

Originally posted by neattairoski@7 November 2003 - 10:14
Flag burning should be illegal.

Same for Australia.

What is it that they are trying to say ? Americans/Australian (whatever) should burn in hell ??

Thats the only thing i can think of when people burn the flags of countries.
What about the freedom of expression you facist!! :angry:

[UKMan]

Originally posted by TheDave@7 November 2003 - 12:03
flag burnings cool. when i see the stars and stripes burning i see it as an insult to the government and laugh at the others who take offence
I guess your entitled to your own opinion of course and i aint gonna take that right from yas. But i do have a question:

Does everyone who trash their government have a viable working alternative. Its a serious question that needs a serious and well thought out answer.

Things like "i would instigate free hash for kids" or "let kids under 18 drink alcohol" or "make love not war" aint gonna make it anymore - so whats the "NEW" plan you all have secretly stashed thats gonna change the world?

Dont take this in a negative way, try to answer my question sensibly.

Peace
UKMan

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by leonidas+7 November 2003 - 14:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas @ 7 November 2003 - 14:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-neattairoski@7 November 2003 - 10:14
Flag burning should be illegal.

Same for Australia.

What is it that they are trying to say ? Americans/Australian (whatever) should burn in hell ??

Thats the only thing i can think of when people burn the flags of countries.
What about the freedom of expression you facist&#33;&#33; :angry: [/b][/quote]
every1 has the right to express themselves in America.

just like i have the right to express my foot in the face of the person burning the American flag.

i understand it&#39;s just a "material", but many men fought and died under it to protect what it stands for - it is a representation and a symbol of our country&#39;s history. no need to desecrate it.

[Evil Gemini]

every1 has the right to express themselves in America.

What is it that they are expressing ??



i understand it&#39;s just a "material", but many men fought and died under it to protect what it stands for - it is a representation and a symbol of our country&#39;s history. no need to desecrate it.

Thats exactly how i feel about it. Its just disrespectfull.

BTW why am i a facist ??

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by neattairoski@7 November 2003 - 14:51
BTW why am i a facist ??
i dunno, ask leonidas - :huh:

[masta.z]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 15:19
every1 has the right to express themselves in America.
so that&#39;s why citizens of New York (i think) were banned from having any peaceful anti-war protests???

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by masta.z+7 November 2003 - 16:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masta.z &#064; 7 November 2003 - 16:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 15:19
every1 has the right to express themselves in America.
so that&#39;s why citizens of New York (i think) were banned from having any peaceful anti-war protests???[/b][/quote]
should i say every1 "should" have the right to express themselves?

EDIT: i will say should, 2 avoid further discussion on what happened in new york - :D

[masta.z]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 18:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an &#064; 7 November 2003 - 18:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by masta.z@7 November 2003 - 16:56
<!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 15:19
every1 has the right to express themselves in America.
so that&#39;s why citizens of New York (i think) were banned from having any peaceful anti-war protests???
should i say every1 "should" have the right to express themselves?

EDIT: i will say should, 2 avoid further discussion on what happened in new york - :D [/b][/quote]
yes you should say should as this should avoid any further arguments :D

edit:missed a space :blink:

[leonidas]

just like i have the right to express my foot in the face of the person burning the American flag

Would you do that to a colombian or mexican guy if they were burning a US flag. Burning a flag doesn&#39;t nessesaraly mean you wanna kill the people who live in the country. It mostly mean that you don&#39;t like the policy of this country. It would be no problem for me personaly to burn french flag, and that doesn&#39;t mean I wanna kill myself :lol:


BTW why am i a facist ?? Burning a flag doesn&#39; hurt nobody. So if you wanna bother people put them in jail or whatever, I think you can call yourself a facist.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by leonidas@7 November 2003 - 19:04

just like i have the right to express my foot in the face of the person burning the American flag

Would you do that to a colombian or mexican guy if they were burning a US flag. Burning a flag doesn&#39;t nessesaraly mean you wanna kill the people who live in the country. It mostly mean that you don&#39;t like the policy of this country.
if they were burning the flag across the street from me, yes... :)

i didn&#39;t say it meant u wanted 2 kill them, it just shows a great deal of disrepect - kinda like pissin on someone&#39;s grave.....not cool.


It would be no problem for me personaly to burn french flag
that just tells me how proud u r of your country - congrats - B)


Burning a flag doesn&#39; hurt nobody
double negative, guess that means it hurts EVERYBODY&#33; :P

[noname12]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 19:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 7 November 2003 - 19:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-leonidas@7 November 2003 - 19:04

just like i have the right to express my foot in the face of the person burning the American flag

Would you do that to a colombian or mexican guy if they were burning a US flag. Burning a flag doesn&#39;t nessesaraly mean you wanna kill the people who live in the country. It mostly mean that you don&#39;t like the policy of this country.
if they were burning the flag across the street from me, yes... :)

i didn&#39;t say it meant u wanted 2 kill them, it just shows a great deal of disrepect - kinda like pissin on someone&#39;s grave.....not cool.


It would be no problem for me personaly to burn french flag
that just tells me how proud u r of your country - congrats - B) [/b][/quote]
You could whipe your ass with a flag if you wished to, no law prohibits it, except Saudi arabia I think. Meh... people these day&#39;s love to burn my beautiful flag with the star of david on it I aint going to kill no one its there opinion so more power to them.

If some prick wishes to hit some one because of a flag I suggest that people should burn him next instead rather then wasting a nice colofull flag.

[Sid Hartha]

I don&#39;t have the slightest idea what Flag Discretion is, but I&#39;m against it.
Then again, I never did well in civis class.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by Sid Hartha@7 November 2003 - 19:19
I don&#39;t have the slightest idea what Flag Discretion is, but I&#39;m against it.
Then again, I never did well in civis class.
flag desecration - subject is spelled wrong.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by noname12@7 November 2003 - 19:11
If some prick wishes to hit some one because of a flag I suggest that people should burn him next instead rather then wasting a nice colofull flag.
keep talkin smack - it&#39;s not my fault u have no love for your country. i&#39;m proud of where i live, and what it and my flag stands for (athough i know many hate the u.s.)

shut yer bloody cake hole - noname hermaphadite. <_<

[UKMan]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 20:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 7 November 2003 - 20:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sid Hartha@7 November 2003 - 19:19
I don&#39;t have the slightest idea what Flag Discretion is, but I&#39;m against it.
Then again, I never did well in civis class.
flag desecration - subject is spelled wrong. [/b][/quote]
Finally someone with eyes wide open ;)

Peace
UKAntiFlagBurningMan

[noname12]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 19:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 7 November 2003 - 19:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-noname12@7 November 2003 - 19:11
If some prick wishes to hit some one because of a flag I suggest that people should burn him next instead rather then wasting a nice colofull flag.
keep talkin smack - it&#39;s not my fault u have no love for your country. i&#39;m proud of where i live, and what it and my flag stands for (athough i know many hate the u.s.)

shut yer bloody cake hole - noname hermaphadite. <_< [/b][/quote]
Kiss my ass Patriot.
I love my country as much as the next guy, but I do realise my country and what it stands for is not in a flag, its with the people and politicians inside the borders.

If some american burned my flag, I&#39;d clap and congratulating him on being able to work out how to use a lighter, If an american tried to burn one of my people then my country would gladly take up the case. :lol:

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by noname12@7 November 2003 - 19:29
Kiss my big fat ass Patriot.
I love my country as much as the next guy, but I do realise my country and what it stands for is not in a flag, its with the people and politicians inside the borders.

If some american burned my flag, I&#39;d clap and congratulating him on being able to work out how to use a lighter, If an american tried to burn one of my people then my country would gladly take up the case. :lol:
my country doesn&#39;t stand for the flag, the flag stands for the country u silly communist freak nugget - :P

[noname12]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 19:31
I&#39;m so gay I tried to make love to bush.
Yep, I agree with that one.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by noname12+7 November 2003 - 19:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (noname12 @ 7 November 2003 - 19:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 19:31
I&#39;m so gay I tried to make love to bush.
Yep, I agree with that one. [/b][/quote]
ouchie.......

[noname12]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 19:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 7 November 2003 - 19:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by noname12@7 November 2003 - 19:32
<!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 19:31
I&#39;m so gay I tried to make love to bush.
Yep, I agree with that one.
ouchie....... [/b][/quote]
Its the lowest insult I could think of at the time <_<

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by noname12+7 November 2003 - 19:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (noname12 @ 7 November 2003 - 19:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 19:34

Originally posted by noname12@7 November 2003 - 19:32
<!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 19:31
I&#39;m so gay I tried to make love to bush.
Yep, I agree with that one.
ouchie.......
Its the lowest insult I could think of at the time <_< [/b][/quote]
over here we call that a "swing and a miss" - :P

[noname12]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 19:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 7 November 2003 - 19:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by noname12@7 November 2003 - 19:36

Originally posted by kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 19:34

Originally posted by noname12@7 November 2003 - 19:32
<!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 19:31
I&#39;m so gay and desperate I tried to make love to a monkey named GW bush JR.
Yep, I agree with that one.
ouchie, I&#39;m gay.......
Its the lowest insult I could think of at the time <_<
over here I&#39;m called a "drag queen" - :P [/b][/quote]
I think that ones better

[leonidas]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 20:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an &#064; 7 November 2003 - 20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Me
Would you do that to a colombian or mexican guy if they were burning a US flag. Burning a flag doesn&#39;t nessesaraly mean you wanna kill the people who live in the country. It mostly mean that you don&#39;t like the policy of this country.


if they were burning the flag across the street from me, yes[/b][/quote]
Apparently you don&#39;t know the harm your country did & still do to those people

[Sid Hartha]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+7 November 2003 - 19:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an @ 7 November 2003 - 19:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sid Hartha@7 November 2003 - 19:19
I don&#39;t have the slightest idea what Flag Discretion is, but I&#39;m against it.
Then again, I never did well in civis class.
flag desecration - subject is spelled wrong. [/b][/quote]
Thanks for helping me out with that one. :lol:
No wonder the subject never came up in civis class.

[Evil Gemini]

Just a question.

If an Arab person burned the American flag, would they be treated the same way if a White American burned it ??

If an Arab did it, it would look like an act of terrorism and most likely, a S.W.A.T team will be crashing through his house. but if a white guy did it, its because they are "expressing them selves"

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by neattairoski@7 November 2003 - 22:40
Just a question.

If an Arab person burned the American flag, would they be treated the same way if a White American burned it ??

If an Arab did it, it would look like an act of terrorism and most likely, a S.W.A.T team will be crashing through his house. but if a white guy did it, its because they are "expressing them selves"
ummmm, i&#39;m gonna say no 2 that - :P

2day, u=wrong.

[leonidas]

Originally posted by neattairoski@7 November 2003 - 23:40
Just a question.

If an Arab person burned the American flag, would they be treated the same way if a White American burned it ??

If an Arab did it, it would look like an act of terrorism and most likely, a S.W.A.T team will be crashing through his house. but if a white guy did it, its because they are "expressing them selves"
4 sure stupid people who see that on tv will think that way.

[TheDave]

Originally posted by leonidas+7 November 2003 - 23:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas @ 7 November 2003 - 23:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-neattairoski@7 November 2003 - 23:40
Just a question.

If an Arab person burned the American flag, would they be treated the same way if a White American burned it ??

If an Arab did it, it would look like an act of terrorism and most likely, a S.W.A.T team will be crashing through his house. but if a white guy did it, its because they are "expressing them selves"
4 sure stupid people who see that on tv will think that way. [/b][/quote]
fox would say it that way ;)

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by leonidas+7 November 2003 - 20:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas @ 7 November 2003 - 20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 20:08
<!--QuoteBegin-Me
Would you do that to a colombian or mexican guy if they were burning a US flag. Burning a flag doesn&#39;t nessesaraly mean you wanna kill the people who live in the country. It mostly mean that you don&#39;t like the policy of this country.


if they were burning the flag across the street from me, yes
Apparently you don&#39;t know the harm your country did & still do to those people [/b][/quote]
enlighten me - give them a gazallion construction jobs that pay 100 times more than they would make at home? :)

[sparsely]

now for a recap:


Originally posted by Broken+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Broken)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
no, it&#39;s not ilegal...however, you are likely to get you butt kicked if you do it[/b]


Originally posted by Me@

only by violence-prone morons, which I realize the country is full of...
it&#39;s just a swatch of fucking cotton. If you spend the money on a flag just to burn it up, good for your dumbass.
Just don&#39;t set my goddamn grass on fire

<!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an

i have the right to express my foot in the face of the person burning the American flag.[/quote]

blah blah blah...ad infinitum
:D

[kurtsl0an]

CORRECT - ;)

:D

[leonidas]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an+8 November 2003 - 00:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kurtsl0an &#064; 8 November 2003 - 00:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by leonidas+7 November 2003 - 20:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas &#064; 7 November 2003 - 20:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@7 November 2003 - 20:08
<!--QuoteBegin-Me
Would you do that to a colombian or mexican guy if they were burning a US flag. Burning a flag doesn&#39;t nessesaraly mean you wanna kill the people who live in the country. It mostly mean that you don&#39;t like the policy of this country.


if they were burning the flag across the street from me, yes
Apparently you don&#39;t know the harm your country did & still do to those people [/b][/quote]
enlighten me - give them a gazallion construction jobs that pay 100 times more than they would make at home? :) [/b][/quote]
And why do you think they get badly paid in their country. Why do you think people in mexico are poor.

It&#39;s just because compagnies from USA corrupt the politicians & the army. The same for Colombia. Guerria wouldn&#39;t exists if it wasn&#39;t for USA imperialism. And I know what I&#39;m talking about.

[UKMan]

Isnt it wierd that all you guys are puking up bullshit to a simple question about "<span style='color:red'>is burning the American flag illegal?"

Yes or No would be enough.</span>

[leonidas]

Originally posted by UKMan@8 November 2003 - 01:58
Isnt it wierd that all you guys are puking up bullshit to a simple question about "<span style='color:red'>is burning the American flag illegal?"

Yes or No would be enough.</span>
I don&#39;t agree. Certain things, acts, behaviour or phenomenons need to be explained.

[UKMan]

Fair enough leonidas but this is getting rediculous. There is so much hate going on around here that i begin to wonder where it will all end.

Peace
UKMan

[leonidas]

Originally posted by UKMan@8 November 2003 - 02:16
Fair enough leonidas but this is getting rediculous. There is so much hate going on around here that i begin to wonder where it will all end.

Peace
UKMan
I personnaly don&#39;t especially hate anyone in this forum. And I find all those discutions quite intersting.

[UKMan]

I dont hate anyone either here either bro, but im not sure i find all the stuff interesting - especially this kind of crap. The original question was IF the burning of the American flag was illegal. Therefore i see no need to bring about attacking other countries, others points of views and just general mud-slinging.

We all know how the majority of Americans are patriotic - as they should be and we all know how the others are not - which is their constitutional right, but the kind of attacks that go on around here sometimes are despicable - IMHO.

If i dont like something i try to do something constructive to change it. If i cant, which is often the case, i sure as hell dont start ranting around trashing others which only contributes to more hatred and agression.

A lot of people need to realise that the world owes them jack-sh*t and the only way to get on is to try and accept others opinions which are as strong as your own. If you still cant agree with that person, then just agree to dissagree and move on.

I think thats all i will say on this subject and wont bother replying anymore on this particular thread. I will just follow it and watch.

Peace
UKMan

[leonidas]

I rather think it&#39;s important to convince people when your arguments are actually facts, and the issue is important. I think too much people give up, just like you do.

[kurtsl0an]

i thought this thread had died by now - guess not.

how odd - some1 blamin America for all the problems in the world. <_<

[leonidas]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an@9 November 2003 - 05:57
i thought this thread had died by now - guess not.

how odd - some1 blamin America for all the problems in the world. <_<
who ? me? You&#39;re wrong

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by leonidas@9 November 2003 - 05:02
who ? me? You&#39;re wrong
i was referring 2 your previous post:


And why do you think they get badly paid in their country. Why do you think people in mexico are poor.

It&#39;s just because compagnies from USA corrupt the politicians & the army. The same for Colombia. Guerria wouldn&#39;t exists if it wasn&#39;t for USA imperialism. And I know what I&#39;m talking about.

[InverseKinetix]

All great Empires throughout history have come to an end. The USA is coming to the end of its own reign. Whether it will bow down with dignity to a changing world or whether it will try to shaft its enemies so as to stave off vengeful attacks from the people it shafted remains to be seen. Just like Britain left a little dispute between Pakistan and India, which is still going on. I hope no one says that the USA doesnt shaft other nations, because it does just like all modern developed countries. People like us who are lucky enough to live in these countries afford our luxories at the expense of people less fortunate than us. While we&#39;re arguing about whether to buy a p4 or AMD or adding neon lights to our boxes, people all over the world have to contend with real life decisions like which of the children gets to work in a sweatshop making Nike sneakers. This topic steered well off the intended question, but as far as I think, there should be no problem with just the burning of a flag, freedom of expression. But what with the "patriot" act I dont know, I think that will soon start being misused more than it already is.

As for all the hate bounding around, arent we all the same? like people? Stereotyping is the worst thing to happen, people seem to forget that stupidity and ignorance does not adhere to any particular creed, there are idiots and fuckups in every country just like there are good people.

Sorry, I just had to throw in my 2 cents.

[UKMan]

Originally posted by leonidas@9 November 2003 - 05:50
I rather think it&#39;s important to convince people when your arguments are actually facts, and the issue is important. I think too much people give up, just like you do.
Dont ever accuse me of giving up bro untill you know the facts i mean that very sincerely. :angry:

[Yogi]

Originally posted by leonidas@9 November 2003 - 06:50
I rather think it&#39;s important to convince people when your arguments are actually facts, and the issue is important. I think too much people give up, just like you do.
Arguments being facts????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Convincing people????
Most convincing is done for no other purpose than satisfying personal needs......

Forgiveness and letting go is something completely different than giving up.....

And for blaming UKman........... :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

Seems you need to get your (f)act(s) together&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


My 8 teeth worth.........

Yogi :huh:

[UKMan]

My own quote:

I think thats all i will say on this subject and wont bother replying anymore on this particular thread. I will just follow it and watch.

I got annoyed by leonidas unwarrented comment, so decided to carry on anyway. I do believe i made myself very clear on all the posts i made on this particular thread - but some people dont read, or at least only answer what they can argue about. I havnt given up, i move on - arguing over petty things is not constructive - just another excuse for making your point and heating up the debate.

But that comment only proved my point, its hard for some to accept others points of view. You could argue that i dont accept leonidas views - but i do, but i havnt attacked him (attack is probably too harsh) i just dont think personal abuse i the right way to go - so think about it again leonidas please.

Peace
UKMan

[leonidas]

Originally posted by UKMan@9 November 2003 - 14:55
My own quote:

I think thats all i will say on this subject and wont bother replying anymore on this particular thread. I will just follow it and watch.

I got annoyed by leonidas unwarrented comment, so decided to carry on anyway. I do believe i made myself very clear on all the posts i made on this particular thread - but some people dont read, or at least only answer what they can argue about. I havnt given up, i move on - arguing over petty things is not constructive - just another excuse for making your point and heating up the debate.

But that comment only proved my point, its hard for some to accept others points of view. You could argue that i dont accept leonidas views - but i do, but i havnt attacked him (attack is probably too harsh) i just dont think personal abuse i the right way to go - so think about it again leonidas please.

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UKMan
I understand the point you made about not heating or flamming, but I think (Here it&#39;s just my opinion, not a fact) that cooling a debate is not so often a good solution.
Just watch your TV and you will understand that its purpose is to calm down and hide the real poblems to the people.

I agree with "giving up"/"not flaming up "/"cooling" some debates about past actions, if they don&#39;t bring up something constructive for the present or the future, but I don&#39;t when the issue is important and current.

[UKMan]

Why should i just keep repeating all that i&#39;ve allready said when all they have to do is scroll back and read again? I dont believe in prolonging a debate for the sole purpose of just prolonging it and making my voice heard.

Once i have made my point - thats it - AND i dont believe people HAVE TO GET HEATED UP - all the time. Its not constructive and never will be. It makes others afraid and makes you (me) look a fool.

As far as the TV is concerned, lets keep to the real world - thats a joke :P

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UKMan

[leonidas]

Originally posted by UKMan@9 November 2003 - 17:18
Why should i just keep repeating all that i&#39;ve allready said when all they have to do is scroll back and read again? I dont believe in prolonging a debate for the sole purpose of just prolonging it and making my voice heard.

Once i have made my point - thats it - AND i dont believe people HAVE TO GET HEATED UP - all the time. Its not constructive and never will be. It makes others afraid and makes you (me) look a fool.

As far as the TV is concerned, lets keep to the real world - thats a joke :P

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UKMan
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Leonidas