Firefox is Garbage, Use Chrome!

[EyeCandy]

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6312/firefoxtaskmanager1.jpg

Over two hundred megabytes of memory for a browser is completely unacceptable. Freakin' memory leaks.

[anon]

You think that's a lot? Check my Opera after reading all new posts and articles. 500MB and beyond. It's not a leak, it's the memory cache, and you can tweak that in about:config.

I don't know any browser that won't use "excessive" amounts of memory if you surf a lot with it. With its multi-process design, chances are Chrome won't be any better.

Great process names, by the way. :D

[cibu]

Dude , you should see my task manager . When I use google chrome for about 4 hrs without closing it from time to time it totally freezes my pc ( and I have 3 gb ddr 3 ram ,i3 cpu ) . It uses a lot of memory . they are all the same , they all use a whole lot of memory if you don't restart them once in a while .

[100%]

Windows 98?

[anon]

they are all the same , they all use a whole lot of memory if you don't restart them once in a while .

It usually goes down over time, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to keep Opera running for three weeks before MPC somehow crashed my system.

[Snee]

That's nothing. I had the plugin container up as a separate process before, eating 1.6 gigs of ram on its own. And this is with like three plugins installed. Like noscript and adblock, and some random plugin that only adds proper win7 transparency to the window.

[tesco]

That's nothing. I had the plugin container up as a separate process before, eating 1.6 gigs of ram on its own. And this is with like three plugins installed. Like noscript and adblock, and some random plugin that only adds proper win7 transparency to the window.
plugin-container is for flash, so that if flash crashes it only takes down that one process and not the whole browser. It has nothing to do with add-ons. ;)

And my FF is eating over 350mb. I have it set to memory cache though.

[Snee]

That's nothing. I had the plugin container up as a separate process before, eating 1.6 gigs of ram on its own. And this is with like three plugins installed. Like noscript and adblock, and some random plugin that only adds proper win7 transparency to the window.
plugin-container is for flash, so that if flash crashes it only takes down that one process and not the whole browser. It has nothing to do with add-ons. ;)

And my FF is eating over 350mb. I have it set to memory cache though.

So it's adobe that sucks balls? I'd never have thunk it.

So that leaves firefok eating 200-300 megs normally, maybe half a gig if you get extremely ambitious with the tabs.

Lucky the standard on modern computers is 4 gigs of ram installed, otherwise someone might notice something.

[bijoy]

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6312/firefoxtaskmanager1.jpg

Over two hundred megabytes of memory for a browser is completely unacceptable. Freakin' memory leaks.

offtopic: what's happeing with imageshack images??
I can see nothing but 'domain unregistered' :unsure:

[teflon05]

I've been having a problem in recent months, that when I close FF, the window closes but the process doesn't. I have to open task manager to kill it manually...& if I forget it sits there merrily eating up memory lol. I'm not sure if it's an add-on, or FF itself doing it. Anyone else have this happen?

[anon]

offtopic: what's happeing with imageshack images??
I can see nothing but 'domain unregistered' :unsure:

Imageshack finished becoming a piece of shit with their last changes. I'd strongly suggest people begin using other image hosting services now.


I've been having a problem in recent months, that when I close FF, the window closes but the process doesn't. I have to open task manager to kill it manually...& if I forget it sits there merrily eating up memory lol.

Never had that problem (back when I used FF, of course). I suppose you can try a clean install, or disable your extensions one-by-one to see if any of them is causing this.

[tesco]

Imageshack finished becoming a piece of shit with their last changes. I'd strongly suggest people begin using other image hosting services now.

They've been shit since at least 2005. :unsure:

[anon]

They've been shit since at least 2005. :unsure:

That was good shit if you compare them with what they're now.

[bijoy]

Imageshack finished becoming a piece of shit with their last changes. I'd strongly suggest people begin using other image hosting services now.

They've been shit since at least 2005. :unsure:

can understand their latest tactics. Something like content dostributiion in mininova.. :huh:

[Expeto]

I never really like the imageshack, yet it was usefull. There are hundreds of alternatives ready and willing to take their place.

back to topic, I still think firefox doing pretty good, yet it have this bloated feeling. To be honest I'm pretty impressed by the fact it can still run even with a clusterfuck of addons. I think they should have less external addons and more built in stuff. Also I'm pretty happy to see this “Do Not Track” ff 4beta, its just about time.

[kiddoman]

I think FF is still a powerful browser.

[whatcdfan]

Lucky the standard on modern computers is 4 gigs of ram installed, otherwise someone might notice something.

Keeping up with the advancement of hardware efficiency wouldn't raise the issues such as this though its kinda inevitable because still the demand is exceeding the supply.


offtopic: what's happeing with imageshack images??
I can see nothing but 'domain unregistered' :unsure:

Its one of the league of free online services that in their desire of monopoly broke down in the competition.Rapidshare has just ended up tasting the black salt of the competition and still they are not ready to compromise, I have heard their staff wont allow resume for free downloads where as megaupload/mediafire has that feature from very beginning.

[snap3r]

Firefox is the best browser ive ever used.Tested them all and i ended up with firefox and chrome but chrome i use only in rare cases.
Firefox and chrome with 5 tabs open consume about the same memory. Somewhere around 350 Mb .... i took a pic of how much my FF is eating after 6 hours of being on .... and its the same amount
http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/392/8901923080.jpg

[Glaucon]

Over two hundred megabytes of memory for a browser is completely unacceptable. Freakin' memory leaks.

The title of this topic is misleading and as we've probably figured out by now garbage on it's own. I wouldn't want a browser war starting here so let's not compare Firefox and Chrome at all. At the very least of it, this thread is advertising and is as such not grounds for an intelligent discussion anyhow.

I'd also like to say that if you want features, you should be prepared to make sacrifices; your computer memory in this case. Nobody is forcing you to use any of the browsers - the options are out there, the facts as well - it's up to you to make the choice and when picking software you should note what your computer can and what it can't handle, instead of blaming it on the developers. They are not here to cater to your every need as they are programming for a wider array of consumers.

So far it's still open-source; feel free to change it to your will if you don't like it. ;)

[iLOVENZB]

What's porn.exe? :huh:


Windows 98?

Classic theme ;).

[anon]

What's porn.exe? :huh:

His way of concealing which processes are running. :P


Classic theme ;).

Which is awesome. I've upgraded my desktop to Windows 7 some days ago, and I still use the classic theme. Fast, simple and uses less RAM.

[rdtphd]

prolly porn.exe that is running several times and porn.sex that is bogging you down

[kledder]

So where does that leaves Opera? Engine is pretty good. Works very well if you are a mega multitasker like I am. Chrome kind of becomes unstable after opening 100/120 tabs or so.

[iLOVENZB]

prolly porn.exe that is running several times and porn.sex that is bogging you down

How does that effect firefox.exe?

[rdtphd]

How does that effect firefox.exe?

maybe in a similar way to how plugins-container.exe does :)

[anon]

How does that effect firefox.exe?

Thoughts lead to actions. :shifty:

[OlegL]

I don't think that firefox is garbage. It's my favorite web browser.

[huserou]

i still prefer firefox..

[Stabber]

I still prefer firefox , chrome isn;t that light btw

[iLOVENZB]

I still prefer firefox , chrome isn;t that light btw

What on earth are you talking about?

[Stabber]

haha what i meant to say is that both firefox and chrome consume big amount of ram .

The only difference is that chrome loads faster

[anon]

Slightly off-topic, but anyone else noticed Opera becoming a complete piece of shit with version 11.10? It crashes for things like closing a damn tab. :dabs:

I'm considering switching to something else, maybe Firefox.

[iLOVENZB]

haha what i meant to say is that both firefox and chrome consume big amount of ram .

The only difference is that chrome loads faster

I used to run a rig with only 512MB of ram, Firefox was unbearable with 5 or more tabs open Chrome on the other hand seemed to run flawlessly.

I'm now running on 8GB of RAM, needless to say I don't really think about performance issues :P.

[Snatcher0]

Firefox interface (old one, 3.xx version) + Chrome speed = Perfect web browser

[i6q]

Chrome it nice
(http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/431132-Firefox-is-Garbage-Use-Chrome%21)

[Glaucon]

Slightly off-topic, but anyone else noticed Opera becoming a complete piece of shit with version 11.10? It crashes for things like closing a damn tab. :dabs:

I'm considering switching to something else, maybe Firefox.

I've given up hope for Opera a long time ago. They seem to pointlessly insist on their closed-source strategy and to be honest it doesn't feel too trustworthy.

[anon]

I wouldn't mind them not releasing the source code if version 11 was as stable as the previous ones. Before the current branch I had only seen the crash report dialog twice in five years.

[Cabalo]

More fuel to the fire:

Chrome 11: The Best Browser? (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/chrome-11-the-best-browser/1006)

[Gorbux]

Chrome and its botnet vulnerabilities needs to go before I consider to switch. http://www.precursorblog.com/content/google-chrome-we-dont-need-your-permission

[kiddoman]

I can not agree with you! They both have its own advantages! It is not that kind of situation!

They both have its own advantages! No one can judge it like this!

[Piccolo]

lol try Google Chrome

[ronaldnelson75]

Hello guys, What version firefox do you using? I Know the previous 3.0 version is garbage...but 4.0 i think is very good one.

[Guttsu]

Does anyone have any good comparisons between Chrome and Firefox on their Mac? I like Chrome a lot, but I still only use it as a back up browser on my Mac.

[aktiv8]

Just to give my two-pence worth as this topic keeps gettin reopened. You ideally need both. Chrome is faster for some sites, FF is faster on others - depends on design and coding I suppose. This is especially prevelant with IBM software (e.g. lotus notes web access etc), whereby FF was an issue, now that is fine but Chrome keeps writing in the wrong place if you reply to an email etc. I think anyone serious about using the internet should have at least two browsers on their computer as it helps avoid possible problems - something doesn't work, try the other browser etc/.

Im more concerned however by the orignal posters image - WTF are porn.exe/porn.sex/ninjapirate.exe etc as SYSTEM services!!! One would almost thinks he has a few tojans on there!

[anon]

Im more concerned however by the orignal posters image - WTF are porn.exe/porn.sex/ninjapirate.exe etc as SYSTEM services!!! One would almost thinks he has a few tojans on there!

Who needs black bars when you can disguise system services as porn?

On a sidenote, I upgraded to Opera 11.50 last week after a period of staying on 10.63, due to a severe letdown regarding newer builds' stability. It hasn't crashed once so far. Maybe they finally got it right...

[bumper]

can anyone tell me why is chrome better than ff?

[johhny]

chrome is not even close to firefox...

[anon]

can anyone tell me why is chrome better than ff?

Google made it.

[Human_Being]

i dont even see exactly what that extra memory gives you, its ridiculous

[tesco]

Money? :unsure:

[Jackbauer]

Chrome is noticeably faster than firefox, both at starting up and simply loading web pages. Once I went chrome I could never go back. Such a much better uI than the new versions of firefox
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[xtrememc8]

FF has no tracking. How to do this on Chrome? I don't want to share my information with Google. Though I love Chrome very much, I only use it to test web design.

[anon]

FF has no tracking. How to do this on Chrome? I don't want to share my information with Google.

Go to chrome://settings/advanced -> Under the Hood, and untick all the "Privacy" options on the right panel. It should then no longer report anything.

[Bionic]

What issit like.. a few bits faster? -_-

Anon - wow, oh em gee, WTO Editor huh
l33t

[iLOVENZB]

^^^ I had to read that post twice to try and convert it from a 12 year old girl post on Facebook to English :P.

I've been mucking around with Firefox the last couple of days, just to prove I'm not biased towards Chrome but I have noticed a huge speed difference between Chrome and Firefox. I do like the bookmark manager and the fact that you can view all your tabs opened with the drop down arrow - at the end near the minimize button.

[anon]

Anon - wow, oh em gee, WTO Editor huh
l33t

Cool story brah!

[garathnormanmt]

I have faced problems with firefox, I surely agree to your words ,Firefox is garbage its better to use Chrome.

[fearthenet]

I prefer Firefox because Chrome doesn't always render some webpages right.

[xtrememc8]

Hey WTO Editor, will try what you suggested. Meanwhile, i just downloaded the chrome extension called "Keep My Opt-Outs". I will see whether it works better and keep everybody updated on that.

[anon]

Surprised I forgot about addons. Firefox has a ton of privacy protection ones, and probably so does Chrome.

Another link you may also find interesting:
http://www.networkadvertising.org/managing/opt_out.asp

[Glaucon]

For the Chrome fans who worry about their privacy: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php

[Swanny14]

On a mac at least, I find Chrome to be much much faster than firefox, although I haven't tried like latest beta build. I've heard good things about Opera too, but haven't tried it in a long time. Any Opera users here care to comment?

[ZANKAR]

i like firefox due to its addons, i like crome due to its default translation abil

[iLOVENZB]

Ehh, Chrome has addons too!

[anon]

I've heard good things about Opera too, but haven't tried it in a long time. Any Opera users here care to comment?

I'm one of them, and I'd advice you to check it out. Opera is fast and has everything I've ever wanted from a browser, been using it for years now. If you don't like it, then at least you know how it is.

[iLOVENZB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbkcwTvm_M

[denis05]

I am of the opinion that Chrome is heavier and slower than Firefox!

to open multiple tabs in Chrome in Firefox and then see which one is consuming more memory.

Firefox for ever

[dragoi92]

Chrome for ever, because i think that is great. But firefox have great addons too that i use .

[Glaucon]

Another Chromium based alternative: http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/browser.php

[clocker]

Chrome for ever, because i think that is great.
On the intertubes nothing is forever.

[Quartr]

Firefox has got wayyyy too bloaty for my taste. The only thing that was holding me back from chrome was lack of extensions, but now all the extensions I loved in FF are available for chrome. I've made the switch on all my machines and I see performance benefits.

[Quarterquack]

Not sure if I've already said this in this thread but Chrome's instance handling is rubbish. Firefox wins hands down. I keep trying to fall in love with Chrome but I just can't.

[respawn40]

I use a Windows-specific build of Firefox called Palemoon, and it's great. I've thought of switching to Chrome, but I just can't give up some of the obscure add-ons that I use!

[Kocour]

Firefox 4 works like a charm for me, almost as fast as Chrome. And I get all of the extensions I need, not the one's that managed to get around Chrome's limitations.

[olfart]

You would prefer a browser that collects data on internet behavior? Google doesn't provide Chrome for free without getting a lot in return.

[anon]

You could turn most if not all of those so-called features off, though. And there's this fork called Iron...

[numeric]

Firefox
Chrome

Rest are shit.

[johhny]

also palemoon or waterfox are awesome(100% firefox sourced,and they came with x64 version also)
also firefox 7 now uses much less memory than previous versions: often 20% to 30% less, and sometimes as much as 50% less.

[ishrat2]

i use opera but i also use firefox and chrome all are same nothing difference.

[Startear]

I used Firefox for quite a while, but then became annoyed with Firefox memory issues and switched to Chrome. It works 10x better than Firefox.

[Justsomeguy]

Not convinced on Chrome as yet, sticking with FF for now

[ddy]

lol,i can't agree with your opinion,i am using two browser now,so i think i can give the fair decision,both Firefox and Chrome are good,to use Chrome or Firefox is just your habit.

[arnavk007]

Chrome crashes on me on more than 20 tabs. Firefox runs happily even when browsing 80+ tabs. Firefox nightly is much much faster than 7. Have been using i for the past 1.5 yrs without a single crash.
BTW i have only 1 gig of ram and run win 7. Currently have 35 tabs with firefox taking only 300 megs of ram.

[ItsFixed]

Browser is the software which helps websites to run on the internet.Firefox is the slow browser in comparison to the other browser.Google Chrome has gained more popularity from the Firfox as it is more fast and give best speed of output .

[username-]

I like Opera better than Chrome.

[Stabber]

all the addons that i was using in firefox are working with chrome so i ditched firefox , there is not much difference in memory usage but in speed chrome is faster

[Z3R0]

I like chrome but firefox is better

[username-]

all the addons that i was using in firefox are working with chrome so i ditched firefox , there is not much difference in memory usage but in speed chrome is faster
I was really disappointed to find chrome without a multirow bookmarks addon. =(

[hdonkey]

I mostly use chrome nowdays, but I've recently find opera really intressting

[Z0M813]

I've been using Chrome since it was released and loved it. It's mutithreading method is the bomb, plus the interface and omnibar really simplified browsing for me in a good way. Recently however I have switched back to Firefox due to js errors and for security reasons. Besides now most chrome features have been mimicked on FF with addons. Some FF addons aren't possible when attempting to migrate back to chrome looking for certain features (noscript for example). Perhaps Chromium has the potential to have "the best of both worlds" but it appears largely to be unknown as a browser option which tends to limit development, though it worked for GNU Linux.

[fordbenedict]

not using ff would bring withdrawals I think

[herrylothar]

Yes i agree with you that firefox is garbage and nothing more. Security measures of chrome is awesome as well its interface and quick tabs of most visited sites helps a lot to open everything just on single click


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