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igby
03-17-2011, 10:21 PM
Finally! But it would be nice to see all the HD Xvids in one place.

A advanced search for 720p in the Xvid SD collection returns 97 results...not that I haven't already looked through all these, but new users could benefit from this.

...just a thought ;)

tesco
03-17-2011, 11:43 PM
Finally! But it would be nice to see all the HD Xvids in one place.

A advanced search for 720p in the Xvid SD collection returns 97 results...not that I haven't already looked through all these, but new users could benefit from this.

...just a thought ;)
Well sure but they have to be manually changed. That would take a lot of time.
I did a couple last weekend though.

As new stuff is posted it will go into the right category. ;)

shipwreck
03-17-2011, 11:43 PM
XviD is obsolete. Invest $50 on a streamer and enjoy the superior quality of x264 rips. HD XviD? Pure anachronism.

mjmacky
03-18-2011, 03:17 AM
720p releases would have to be 8 GB or more to avoid looking like crap, thus defeating the point of doing an HD release. If you're OK with XVID, stick to the low bitrate crap, the "HD" is a pretty pointless gesture.

zot
03-18-2011, 06:08 AM
High-definition divx/xvid definitely has its place.

Because H.264 is a lot more CPU-intensive than xvid, people with old/slow computers can often max out the processor when playing a H.264/x264 video - resulting in an unwatchable movie - while a xvid encode of the same video quality will play just fine.

zot
03-18-2011, 07:02 AM
^^ could someone please ban that spambot sd3189541?

thanks

johhny
03-18-2011, 08:47 AM
if you have an old pc go for xvid HD....

igby
03-19-2011, 02:11 AM
Totally agree that x264 is way better...but when your ISP limits you to 60GB/month and videos are just on top of your regular downloading it maxes out quickly.
I'm more than fine with the quality and its a step up from SD xvids

tesco
03-20-2011, 01:15 AM
Totally agree that x264 is way better...but when your ISP limits you to 60GB/month and videos are just on top of your regular downloading it maxes out quickly.
I'm more than fine with the quality and its a step up from SD xvids
Yes exactly, I've downloaded a few xvid 720p for this reason.
It's a step up from SD but not quite as good as x264 720p.

iLOVENZB
03-20-2011, 03:34 AM
XviD is obsolete. Invest $50 on a streamer and enjoy the superior quality of x264 rips. HD XviD? Pure anachronism.

Quota grows on trees in your country?

shipwreck
03-20-2011, 11:24 PM
Quotas? No traffic limitations on all fixed line broadband products (mobile broadband is a different matter). Otherwise I'd feel like living in a third world country, no offense.

If you do HD, do it right or don't do it at all. That's how I see it. If bandwidth is an issue, HD simply is no option.

Besides, XviD is a less efficient codec than h.264. To achieve the same picture quality, it actually needs more bandwidth, not less. And while it's true that decoding XviD is less CPU demanding, that's hardly relevant today, since cheap $50 streamers support h.264 decoding these days (x264 MKV), as already mentioned.

mjmacky
03-20-2011, 11:53 PM
That's the point, XVID HD actually doesn't look nice if you're still starving the bit rate. That's why I say if you're still choosing XVID over x264, just stick with the SD stuff, getting the HD version is like putting rims on your Geo Metro (analogous reference might be both outdated and only relevant to a specific subculture).

tesco
03-21-2011, 12:53 AM
Quotas? No traffic limitations on all fixed line broadband products (mobile broadband is a different matter). Otherwise I'd feel like living in a third world country, no offense.

If you do HD, do it right or don't do it at all. That's how I see it. If bandwidth is an issue, HD simply is no option.

Besides, XviD is a less efficient codec than h.264. To achieve the same picture quality, it actually needs more bandwidth, not less. And while it's true that decoding XviD is less CPU demanding, that's hardly relevant today, since cheap $50 streamers support h.264 decoding these days (x264 MKV), as already mentioned.
Well that's just great except that no release groups release small x264 720p releases. Take what you can get.

x274 720p > xvid 720p > xvid 480

mjmacky
03-21-2011, 02:37 AM
x264 480p > xvid 720p (at current file sizes)
I'm just not sure what's taking so long to switch
I think it'd be a hard argument to make that anyone's machine can't handle 480p x264

shipwreck
03-21-2011, 06:15 AM
Quotas? No traffic limitations on all fixed line broadband products (mobile broadband is a different matter). Otherwise I'd feel like living in a third world country, no offense.

If you do HD, do it right or don't do it at all. That's how I see it. If bandwidth is an issue, HD simply is no option.

Besides, XviD is a less efficient codec than h.264. To achieve the same picture quality, it actually needs more bandwidth, not less. And while it's true that decoding XviD is less CPU demanding, that's hardly relevant today, since cheap $50 streamers support h.264 decoding these days (x264 MKV), as already mentioned.
Well that's just great except that no release groups release small x264 720p releases. Take what you can get.

x274 720p > xvid 720p > xvid 480

Define "small". Certain groups like x264s DiRTY do release a lot of SD x264 rips and 'small-ish' 720p rips of 2-4GB of size. Dedicated movie trackers have a lot of smaller x264 rips, too.

Disme
03-21-2011, 06:49 AM
XviD is obsolete. Invest $50 on a streamer and enjoy the superior quality of x264 rips. HD XviD? Pure anachronism.

Quota grows on trees in your country?

... in some parts of the world people still have FUP's ;)

mjmacky
03-21-2011, 01:09 PM
[QUOTE=iLOVENZB;3567663]... in some parts of the world people still have FUP's ;)
FUPAs?

iLOVENZB
03-21-2011, 02:14 PM
Fair Usage Policies (FUP)*

tesco
03-21-2011, 10:53 PM
Well that's just great except that no release groups release small x264 720p releases. Take what you can get.

x274 720p > xvid 720p > xvid 480

Define "small". Certain groups like x264s DiRTY do release a lot of SD x264 rips and 'small-ish' 720p rips of 2-4GB of size. Dedicated movie trackers have a lot of smaller x264 rips, too.
2-4gb was what I had in mind.
I don't always see the small 720p releases, at least not posted to FST which admittedly is about as far as I usually look when it comes to the popular items. I also didn't use to see too many x264 SD releases, though they're becoming more common this year.