K-lite Defeated By Emule [Archive]

Johnny_B

11-09-2003, 09:31 PM

One thing I don't understand is why people bashed Kazaa when it first implemented the infamous Participation Level, when eMule works almost the same way with its upload credit rewards.
These credits are the ones to blame for slow downloads and queues up to 5000! :blink:

Since the ed2k network allows sharing partial files, why can't it be like BitTorrent?
I think the credit system is clogging up the whole ed2k network.

Also the server based network is starting to look like Direct Connect. Rules get people blacklisted for sharing too many files (it's recommended not to share more than 200 files) or simply because they are downloading too many files. :blink:

No wonder why serverless Overnet hasn't got much popularity. Those who have established their own ed2k servers don't want to let go, because of their so called "prestige". <_<

I agree the ed2k network is the best when it comes to contents, but it lacks the decentralized feature and also the credit reward system should be reviewed.
With all this, the ed2k network is considered an elite network when it shouldn't, because it's obviously the one with the most potential to kill kazaa for good.

junkyardking

11-09-2003, 11:27 PM

There is project for emule that will make it serverless it called Kademlia and there has already been a couple of releases.

But to be totally honest the edonkey network is a mess, diffrent clients supporting diffrent things edonkey for instance supports the hording system which supposly makes speeds faster then you have emule that which has this credit system while shareaza doesnt support either, you also have incompatibiltys between them and overnet plus the queues are what is slowing the network i've personally seen queues of 100,000.

I think gnutella2(shareaza) is better than all plus it has alot shorter queues like kazaa has, it's also growing at a steady rate, the client does support other networks gnutella1, edonkey and bittorent, while some of the support has been poor in past the client has improved tremediously.

There also a program called Ares http://www.softgap.com/ which has grown very quickly and is very similar to kazaa, actualy you could say it copied the
fasttrack(kazaa) network even down to the supernodes it also doesnt have spy or adware and even has chat rooms.

tralalala

11-10-2003, 05:37 AM

right ill tell you what:
eMule works better than kazaa because most (actually nearly all) files have a numerouse list of sources (between 20 and 800), which is why leaving on eMule at night works perfect.

your right, i wouldnt mind someone like Yuri to hack eMule and produce an "eMue Lite", because sometimes the queue list is like 4000....
actually there are some "hacked" eMules... where the credit is like 30 MB (mine is only 100 KB :( ), but those versions never seem to connect.

also, eMule has verified network downloads all over the world, unlike k-lite which has this forum (which is great!!!!!!) and a few others... actually, i only started using eMule after fasttrackmovies came down.... man that was a good site.

anyway, we'll see how this poll goes to see what the majority of members think, and we'll see if you think k-lite has a chance. i mean, k-lite still has some 20 million users whereas eMule and eDonkey have around 2 million.

tralalala

random nut

11-10-2003, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@10 November 2003 - 07:37
your right, i wouldnt mind someone like Yuri to hack eMule and produce an "eMue Lite", because sometimes the queue list is like 4000....
There's no need to hack eMule the way "Yuri" "hacked" kazaa; there're no ads. If you want a clean p2p-client other than k-lite use dr damn's cleaned clients.

DVD PIRATE III

11-10-2003, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@10 November 2003 - 18:37
k-lite still has some 20 million users

tralalala
Where?..Ive never seen more than 3.5 million online

tracydani

11-10-2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by nostalgia@9 November 2003 - 22:37
It is a fact htat e-mule is a rising star in Europe. But to be honest, that queing is something that's preventing me from using e-mule at the time.
I don't think the queing is any different then kazaa. Just the fact that you can see the line your in is different. Either way, you are still in line with other sources who's connections are full.

TD

shinzuiski

11-10-2003, 09:29 AM

i find emule one of the most stupidest programs ever made.

tralalala

11-10-2003, 03:13 PM

i said i wouldnt mind another "Yuri" to hack eMule to hack it for the "deleting"of the queue list, like in k-lite (in k-lite you rarely get a remotely queued thingy).
also, there arent any speedup programmes for eMule, though for kazaa/k-lite there are many... (if you DO have a speedup for eMule, or have a link to one, ill be happy to know, i wouldnt mind a speedboost to eMule).

tralalala

MetroStars

11-10-2003, 03:23 PM

I quite like Emule, but i agree with Johnny_B on the whole reward system, it's a gud thing but it needs totaly reworking...

but u can't go wrong with the content of emule... i also agree with Johnny_B opinion that emule cud finish off.. Kazaa

Gre1

11-10-2003, 03:26 PM

I voted definatley my reason exactly what it says.

Supernatural

11-10-2003, 03:46 PM

I'm not sure if you guys have looked at the FastTrack network lately, but it clocks in around 4 million users. eMule has what.... 200,000? 500,000? 1 Million? :blink: Whatever it is, we all know damn well it's nothing near FT. The only program that can give K-Lite some competition is Shareaza, because it combines G1, G2, eD2k, and BT.

ck-uk

11-10-2003, 04:49 PM

Umm...i use emule quite abit.....but my vote is going to have to be option one. :D

Barbarossa

11-10-2003, 05:03 PM

Courtesy of Slyck (http://www.slyck.com) today:-

P2P Networks
November 10, 2003 - 6:00 EST
Network  Users
FastTrack  3,467,860
eDonkey  1,420,399
iMesh  1,155,953
Overnet  745,472
MP2P  264,150
DirectConnect  176,529
Gnutella  103,466
Ares  45,219
Filetopia  3,133

I voted Option 1, although EDonkey/EMule is growing quite substantially, once it hits 2 mill I might have to try it. ;)

nanotek

11-10-2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by barbarossa@10 November 2003 - 17:03
Courtesy of Slyck (http://www.slyck.com) today:-

P2P Networks
November 10, 2003 - 6:00 EST
Network Users
FastTrack 3,467,860
eDonkey 1,420,399
iMesh 1,155,953
Overnet 745,472
MP2P 264,150
DirectConnect 176,529
Gnutella 103,466
Ares 45,219
Filetopia 3,133

I voted Option 1, although EDonkey/EMule is growing quite substantially, once it hits 2 mill I might have to try it. ;)
why wait ? u might miss something :P

i voted 2 -i use emule every other night as well

nostalgia

11-10-2003, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by tracydani+10 November 2003 - 09:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tracydani @ 10 November 2003 - 09:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nostalgia@9 November 2003 - 22:37
It is a fact htat e-mule is a rising star in Europe. But to be honest, that queing is something that's preventing me from using e-mule at the time.
I don't think the queing is any different then kazaa. Just the fact that you can see the line your in is different. Either way, you are still in line with other sources who's connections are full.

TD [/b][/quote]
I never had to wait long in K-lite once queued. But in E-mule it seems forever. Queues up to 5000 is not a fact in K-lite. In e-mule it is.

tralalala

11-10-2003, 07:41 PM

actually, speaking of eMule speed... does anyone here have a speedup program for eMule or a link to a place with a speedup or a patch for speed?? it would help... dont you think?

tralalala

tracydani

11-10-2003, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by nostalgia@10 November 2003 - 20:47

I never had to wait long in K-lite once queued. But in E-mule it seems forever. Queues up to 5000 is not a fact in K-lite. In e-mule it is.
True, but I think that has more to do with the number of users available as sources to begin with.

TD

nostalgia

11-11-2003, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by tracydani+10 November 2003 - 20:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tracydani @ 10 November 2003 - 20:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nostalgia@10 November 2003 - 20:47

I never had to wait long in K-lite once queued. But in E-mule it seems forever. Queues up to 5000 is not a fact in K-lite. In e-mule it is.
True, but I think that has more to do with the number of users available as sources to begin with.

TD [/b][/quote]
Could be, although for popular files there are enough sources in e-mule but I think the e-mule users set a lot less slots then K-lite users. If so. that'll explain those ridiculous long queues.

Money Fist

11-11-2003, 09:52 AM

Nothing wrong with a bit of competition

Kaz is maybe pissing people of with all the fake files

people will rather wait queues

PS: SORRY ABOUT THE KITTEN

junkyardking

11-11-2003, 11:42 AM

Alot of the statistics for p2p networks are a bit hit & miss, i'd take them with a grain of salt.

Wizzandabe

11-11-2003, 11:44 AM

Nah, eMule wont do it, BT will. :D

Johnny_B

11-11-2003, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Wizzandabe@11 November 2003 - 11:44
Nah, eMule wont do it, BT will. :D
BitTorrent is the best for new releases, but I'm afraid it's no good for older stuff.
So as you can see, ever P2P app has its shortcomings. A flawless P2P app is yet to be made.

Supernatural

11-11-2003, 04:22 PM

Audiogalaxy was damned near perfect! You could find any song... I mean ANY on there.

Stupid RIAA. :angry:

tralalala

11-11-2003, 06:29 PM

excuse me, i asked a question:
does anyone know of or has or has a link to a speedup programme/patch for eMule?! if you do... it would help dont you think??

tralalala

SaYiaN

11-12-2003, 04:50 AM

ShareaZa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

vegasguy

11-12-2003, 05:00 AM

Hi,

I have a null vote! Bittorrent is the way to go!

tralalala

11-12-2003, 05:12 AM

is there a speacial reason why no one is answering my question?!?!?!?!

i asked: is there a speedup for eMule anywhere???? if anyone has one, or has a link to a site with it, or has a hash, please post.

tralalala

Jay

11-12-2003, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@12 November 2003 - 00:12
is there a speacial reason why no one is answering my question?!?!?!?!

i asked: is there a speedup for eMule anywhere???? if anyone has one, or has a link to a site with it, or has a hash, please post.

tralalala
i dont think what u r asking is possible in e-mule because they have a cap on your d-load speed or somthing like that, trying to remove that cap might get u banned or somthing

tralalala

11-12-2003, 11:07 AM

lol, you mean banned like Yuri did when he "hacked" kazaa?

tralalala

Supernatural

11-12-2003, 01:55 PM

I have your solution tralalala: get Shareaza (http://www.shareaza.com/) and import your eMule downloads.

internet.news

11-12-2003, 03:00 PM

I think after Audiogalaxys closing we should use many p2p possibilities...
...KaZaA is one good solution for sharing thoughts & files openly due to its
structure and nice people :)

But when I really want to find something "HARD TO FIND", I am looking
on following p2p's:

1.Kazaa Lite K++
2.Soulseek
3.Imesh
4.Audiogalaxy's User Groups
5.Other p2p's like WinMX, eMule, ...

and if I cannot find the requested file I try to get it in the shop and then
share it to make it easier to find for other people ;)

thks...

~nice dreams...

tralalala

11-12-2003, 07:17 PM

about shareaza' im downlaoding it now, but it says that it supports eDonkey, does that mean it also supports eMule?

thanks :)

tralalala

zin

11-13-2003, 08:13 AM

Although being a fan of Emule in the sense that it's a good alternative for finding some "older" movies which never really spread through P2P and especially FastTrack I do have to agree that the wait factor is a big issue for me but the biggest issue is the fact that I don't have a powerful PC and Emule (and any other newish P2P client for that matter) completely kills my PC's resources and I am forced to reboot every 12 hours... Kazaa can go without a reboot for weeks on end.

Anyway just wanted to people to also know that FastTrackMovies is close to returning and we will be having ed2k & magnet links in the listings (and wait till you see the new look :P~~~~

Supernatural

11-13-2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by zin@13 November 2003 - 03:13
Although being a fan of Emule in the sense that it's a good alternative for finding some "older" movies which never really spread through P2P and especially FastTrack I do have to agree that the wait factor is a big issue for me but the biggest issue is the fact that I don't have a powerful PC and Emule (and any other newish P2P client for that matter) completely kills my PC's resources and I am forced to reboot every 12 hours... Kazaa can go without a reboot for weeks on end.

Anyway just wanted to people to also know that FastTrackMovies is close to returning and we will be having ed2k & magnet links in the listings (and wait till you see the new look :P~~~~
Yea baby!!!! :-)

tralalala

11-13-2003, 06:08 PM

i downloaded shareaza... BUT it didnt import the 2 unfinished downloads from eMule!!!! is this because i was still downloading from eMule?? did i need to shut down eMule before installing shareaza so that i could import the download???

please help!!!!!!

thanks :)
tralalala

Sparkle1984

11-13-2003, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by tralalala@13 November 2003 - 18:08
i downloaded shareaza... BUT it didnt import the 2 unfinished downloads from eMule!!!! is this because i was still downloading from eMule?? did i need to shut down eMule before installing shareaza so that i could import the download???

please help!!!!!!

thanks :)
tralalala
Maybe move the incomplete files yourself into your Incomplete folder at the C:\ProgramFiles\Shareaza

Adster

11-14-2003, 01:03 AM

emuel sux shit wait a week to start your download never ever ever

its a shame though emule has all the movies i want

CPU1

11-14-2003, 03:44 AM

emule wont defeat kazaa because the n00bs dont know about it and thats the reason kazaa is good

Monkster

11-14-2003, 03:57 AM

emule wont defeat kazaa because the n00bs dont know about it and thats the reason kazaa is good I had never heard of any other P2P program other than Kazaa until i joined this forum! :lol:

imnotanaddict

11-14-2003, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by Fiber@11 November 2003 - 09:52
Nothing wrong with a bit of competition

Kaz is maybe pissing people of with all the fake files

people will rather wait queues

PS: SORRY ABOUT THE KITTEN
For starters I did'nt vote not enough options/choices. :D I'll continue to use K++
as long as its around (can't ever see it getting wiped-out). I use SuperNova(BT),
K++, and emule. Just downloaded my first mislabled file/movie from emule today.
What should have been scary movie 3 was shreek if you know where I was last friday the 13th, (or some such name). Still watched it, totally stupid somewhat funny about what I expected from sm3 but on a lessser scale mabe. I think anytime we download, from wherever the source were unfortunetly going to run in to mislabled files, I just hope that some P2P programs are going to have a lot less than others. But I for 1 like having alternatives, if I can't find a file on 1 or getting low or no sources, having other options is always nice.

tralalala

11-14-2003, 10:53 AM

about the guy that said eMule sux cos its slow - theres a creditfile... according to the weight of it your "reward" is bigger.
in other words: share as many files as you can, and as more people will download from you, your credit gets higher, and by that you "push into line"

tralalala

nanotek

11-14-2003, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by tralalala@14 November 2003 - 10:53
about the guy that said eMule sux cos its slow - theres a creditfile... according to the weight of it your "reward" is bigger.
in other words: share as many files as you can, and as more people will download from you, your credit gets higher, and by that you "push into line"

tralalala
no thats not quit true ! if u share too many files u will get banned by the servers and get black listed not allowing u to get back on the server - they do that to keep the server stable BUT if u let the ppl upload from u your credit file gets bigger and bigger and u will get a better place in the queue and start dl more quickly as far as i see it - so emule really forces u to share :)

edit: check the servers to see how many files they allow most have a limit . i share about 100 files all togeather

tralalala

11-15-2003, 09:51 AM

actually, thers a hacked eMule which has a predefined creditfile of 20.9 mega (yes, 20.9 megabytes), but i cant seem to get it to connect to any servers... :(

and i share some 190 files

tralalala

ck-uk

11-15-2003, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@15 November 2003 - 09:51
actually, thers a hacked eMule which has a predefined creditfile of 20.9 mega (yes, 20.9 megabytes), but i cant seem to get it to connect to any servers... :(

and i share some 190 files

tralalala
tralalala...better!! :D

If its not connecting from a low id,its most prob rom your firewall..Change the ports in emule or just keep tri..it should connect after a few tries.

You could also disable auto update server list on connect,and delete half of them antway there shit.Just leave the static servers.Enable connect to static list only.

You could also increase

Connections>1000 max connections-5 sec> 150-200

Connections>set upload to say 11kb place a tick to unlimited download.

Files> max connection per file to 1000

After around an couple of hrs of queing you'll get a few sources & near enough max your connect 'esp if you have a few hundred sources.

tralalala

11-15-2003, 07:20 PM

ummmmm, ok ill try 2moro mornin, im too tired now... c im even cuttin down on letters

tralalala ;)

tralalala

11-15-2003, 07:26 PM

oh and another thing ck-uk, tomorrow at 4AM israel time (im in israel), on the eMule site with verifieds, theres going to be a new version comming out, so i dont want to try that stuff till after i install that new version.

ill update later on.

tralalala

bengaltiger

11-19-2003, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Supernatural@10 November 2003 - 10:46
I'm not sure if you guys have looked at the FastTrack network lately, but it clocks in around 4 million users. eMule has what.... 200,000? 500,000? 1 Million? :blink: Whatever it is, we all know damn well it's nothing near FT. The only program that can give K-Lite some competition is Shareaza, because it combines G1, G2, eD2k, and BT.
HERE'S another for Shareaza:
after having all the connection problems with Kazaa Lite , as many peeps have been having lately. i downloaded shareaza and looked for the same files i was having trouble with on Kazaa Lite ( fakes , low download speeds or just connecting always ) and with Shareaza ive been very surprised at how well shareaza works , now as suggested by other peeps i'm still keeping my old faithfull till they get a handle on it =(Kazaa Lite) and using Shareaza for all my movies downloads,Im sure they will get a handle on Kazaa Lite soon.
Good luck all in your searches and keep sharing !!!!!!!

Mr AnDy D

11-20-2003, 07:38 AM

k-lite forever!! :D :D

thisiswhoweare

11-20-2003, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by tralalala@15 November 2003 - 10:51
actually, thers a hacked eMule which has a predefined creditfile of 20.9 mega (yes, 20.9 megabytes), but i cant seem to get it to connect to any servers... :(

and i share some 190 files

tralalala
WFT?!?!?

20MB credit file?...you do know that the credit file in emule is not your credits, but the credits of those who have uploaded to you right?.
All those people you upload to store your credits, so it stops users doing what you did.

Sorry to say this but theres no speedup whatsoever. All you can is to share and build credits with your uploads.

Users is coming up to 2 mill...

tralalala

11-21-2003, 04:29 PM

ahem, the higher the credit.met file (C/Program files/eMule/Config) is, the higher you credit, and your download speed (pushes you up in the line, a bit like shitty old kazaa)

tralalala

Amarjit

11-21-2003, 05:44 PM

Let's face the facts: eMule features 3rd generation file-sharing; sharing of partial files, I.C.H. ... all of which contribute to its popularity.

thisiswhoweare

11-22-2003, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@21 November 2003 - 17:29
ahem, the higher the credit.met file (C/Program files/eMule/Config) is, the higher you credit, and your download speed (pushes you up in the line, a bit like shitty old kazaa)

tralalala
like i said....the credit file doesnt hold your credits.
Deleting it or not, its not gonna affect you at all since it doesnt hold any of your credits.

tralalala

11-23-2003, 08:48 PM

but it DOES affect your priority in the queue list for downloads...

which is why the higher it is... the better!!! :)

tralalala

Formula1

11-23-2003, 09:21 PM

I voted the first option. E-Mule may have the best files, but its slow as fuck and is very annoying. K-lite is and still the best , Shareaza seems pretty descent though.

Wizzandabe

11-23-2003, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by Formula1@23 November 2003 - 21:21
I voted the first option. E-Mule may have the best files, but its slow as fuck and is very annoying. K-lite is and still the best , Shareaza seems pretty descent though.
Second that, but kazaa is still crap. :rolleyes:

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@23 November 2003 - 21:48
but it DOES affect your priority in the queue list for downloads...

which is why the higher it is... the better!!! :)

tralalala
seriously it doesnt lol.
Ask at emuleplus forum or other forums, but i guess when you state you used a hacked mule, they will turn on ya.
Its more likely its doing something like userhash impersonating/stealing, rather than have a big credit file.

tralalala

11-24-2003, 08:01 AM

but the only difference between the regular eMule to the "hacked" one was the size of the clients.met file (SORRY, i messed it up when i said credit.met... my bad... lol)
in the hacked one it was like 30 mega whereas the regular one starts aat 0... only problem with the hacked one is that it DIDNT connect!! even after leaving it to connect for 30 mins!!!!!!!!!!

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 10:37 AM

i know which file you were talking about (clients.met) because there aint a credits.met anyhow.
I posted a thread in forum so will provide link to show it has no effect when i get replies.

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 10:38 AM

clients.met: stores the credits for other users that have uploaded data to you

Taken off the help section.

tralalala

11-24-2003, 01:22 PM

in that case... where can you see how high your credits are?! where can you see if your "doing well"?

tralalala :)

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 01:38 PM

http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/ind...t=ST&f=1&t=3697 (http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?&act=ST&f=1&t=3697) >>heres the post.

Answer to your question: You can't. Not possible.

tralalala

11-24-2003, 02:18 PM

in THAT case... all the people that said that eMule works like kaza... (and thats not a few im talking about), then loads of people are WRONG, and also, theres no point in eMule is there? wouldnt it make sense if it had a reward system similar to kazaa?

tralalala :huh: :blink:

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 03:37 PM

well i think kazaa's reward system is based on how much files you share (ie in size) and emules is how much you have uploaded. AFAIK in kazaa there is no file that stores how much a user has uploaded to you, or how much you have downloaded from a user so i'm assuming the participation level does work on amount currently being shared.

Could be wrong though.

tralalala

11-24-2003, 06:46 PM

in THAT case, where can you see in eMule how much youve uploaded?

lol... sorry if im getting on your nerves, just say so and my mouth is sealed (more like my fingers are braced :D )

tralalala

venom_il

11-24-2003, 07:07 PM

hmm.. less than 45% chose K-lite on a k-lite board
kinna makes you wonder..

i personally use both, though i use emule a lot more and if i had to chose it would be emule, very easily

and u have to get your facts straight about emule credit system

1. it has little effect on queue position - the amount of time you've waited, and the priority of the file you're trying to get are heaps more important

2. credit is not global, it is only between any two clients. the credit is not stored on your computer but rather different credit is stored on the computer of each user you upload to - that credit is based on how much you uploaded to him and how much he uploaded to you.

3. the emule credit system is constantly being improved and besides that they have mods with different credit systems (pawcio, lovelace etc)

4. the kazaa credit system was stupid, pointless and easily cheated. notice how you can't cheat in emule, since the credit file is not stored on your comp.

for further information, you could check the emule official FAQ and forum

hf :ph34r:

and for the record, shareaza sucks

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by tralalala@24 November 2003 - 19:46
in THAT case, where can you see in eMule how much youve uploaded?

lol... sorry if im getting on your nerves, just say so and my mouth is sealed (more like my fingers are braced :D )

tralalala
well you could check through stats if you want an overall total. but for clients who you have uploaded to, find a icon of a donkey with an arrow in the sourcelist, then rightclick and view details of that user. It should show you the amount you have uploaded to them and how much you have downloaded from them if any.

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by venom_il@24 November 2003 - 20:07
hmm.. less than 45% chose K-lite on a k-lite board
kinna makes you wonder..

i personally use both, though i use emule a lot more and if i had to chose it would be emule, very easily

and u have to get your facts straight about emule credit system

1. it has little effect on queue position - the amount of time you've waited, and the priority of the file you're trying to get are heaps more important

2. credit is not global, it is only between any two clients. the credit is not stored on your computer but rather different credit is stored on the computer of each user you upload to - that credit is based on how much you uploaded to him and how much he uploaded to you.

3. the emule credit system is constantly being improved and besides that they have mods with different credit systems (pawcio, lovelace etc)

4. the kazaa credit system was stupid, pointless and easily cheated. notice how you can't cheat in emule, since the credit file is not stored on your comp.

for further information, you could check the emule official FAQ and forum

hf  :ph34r:

and for the record, shareaza sucks
all points valid, but not to sure on 3 though. Never used any mods except E+.
Might wanna check out the "common topics" sticky thread on E+'s forum for reasons why emule is a good p2p and for other things.

EDIT: http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/ind...?showtopic=3475 (http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=3475)
here :) feel free to post any additions here, I will add them on.

tralalala

11-24-2003, 08:48 PM

wait a minute, then whats that clients.met file in my eMule's config folder that keeps getting bigger as i upload more??
im a little thick about eMule, but i guess im a little know it all with k-lite (although im sure theres a numerouse ammount of things i dont know about k-lite)

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-24-2003, 09:15 PM

clients.met: stores the credits for other users that have uploaded data to you

In other words, when you download off users, they are stored into this file which will identify the amount of credit they will have next time they connect to you not the credits you have with them. So the more you download, the bigger the file is gonna get.

Phew, i think thats 4 times ive said this.

venom_il

11-25-2003, 01:17 AM

@thisiswhoweare - thanks, but i don't like emuleplus much :ph34r:

unlike other mods, it's not based on the latest official and i don't really like that.
besides, it's called "the eye candy of mods", in functionality i believe there are better ones, but that's just me - every person has his fav mod B)

and they have pawcio and lovelace credits , you could check out the differences in the board, i just use the default one, right now it's pawcio cos im using his mod - pretty apathic about it :)

thisiswhoweare

11-25-2003, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by venom_il@25 November 2003 - 02:17
@thisiswhoweare - thanks, but i don't like emuleplus much :ph34r:

unlike other mods, it's not based on the latest official and i don't really like that.
besides, it's called "the eye candy of mods", in functionality i believe there are better ones, but that's just me - every person has his fav mod B)

and they have pawcio and lovelace credits , you could check out the differences in the board, i just use the default one, right now it's pawcio cos im using his mod - pretty apathic about it :)
thanks? what for lol???

tralalala

11-25-2003, 06:55 PM

lol... ive FINALLY understood...

thanks thiswhoweare... sorry for driving you nuts!!

tralalala :)

thisiswhoweare

11-25-2003, 07:18 PM

lol are you sure? I can repeat myself another 8 more times before i snap :lol:

jk

just stick to fair clients, leecher mods/unfair clients are more than likely to be banned, greatly reducing who you can download from anyway.

Oh and if your not aware, e+, and emule official have a feature which purges the clients.met file. So anyone you havent downloaded from for 5 months or so is cleaned out of the file. Helps keep the filesize down and keeps people uploading :)
Not sure if its in other mods though.

tralalala

11-25-2003, 08:29 PM

lol, its cool, i got the idea now :)

thanks again, and i wont make you snap, i aint that thick.... lol

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 02:04 AM

maybe you aint that thick, but im nearly there to being one fry short of a happy meal :D

anymore questions regarding mule, ask :)

tralalala

11-26-2003, 11:42 AM

thanks mate!!

actually, there is something: when i copied the ed2k link and pasted it in the israeli eMule sharing site, it wasnt a URL... why is this?!

tralalala

Adster

11-26-2003, 12:57 PM

emule is the worst p2p Ive ever used takes about a week to start your downloads then goes at 1.2 k constant then stops at 99% finished

tralalala

11-26-2003, 01:26 PM

lol... your just an impatient person.... give it t-i-m-e

lol, and if you cant, maybe its your connection?

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by tralalala@26 November 2003 - 12:42
thanks mate!!

actually, there is something: when i copied the ed2k link and pasted it in the israeli eMule sharing site, it wasnt a URL... why is this?!

tralalala
this isnt really a emule question, more of a board issue. Sometimes it will display it as a link when you copy and paste hash, but other times it will just display it as a hash. This varies from board to board, but if copy and paste into a normal post doesnt generate a hash link then try
"a href="ed2k://|file|filename.type|00000|00000|">Video file/a"
placing < before the first a, and < > on the /a.
Video file is just the name of the link and the content in the " " are the hash itself.

Try using the other copy's to see if they work.

Or you can read up on the board's how to post links pages :) Most tend to have them.

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Adster@26 November 2003 - 13:57
emule is the worst p2p Ive ever used takes about a week to start your downloads then goes at 1.2 k constant then stops at 99% finished
I can get 65/75KB if i have a lot in my queue :) ...overall i can get more speed and sources than i ever would using kazaa.
Not as easy to use as Kazaa, but benefits outweight any disadvantages.

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 01:33 PM

....

SeK612

11-26-2003, 01:35 PM

I never really gotten along with emule. It (like BT) has problems with firewalls on my system and I found once it got up and running I couldn't download anything (downloads are always "queued"). In the end I just got rid of it. I find K++ easier to use and haven't really had too many problems with viruses and mislabeled files (most of which can be avoided using a little common sense) and so don't really feel the need to download emule and try it again.

However one of the main problems that is going to appear for K++ soon is the fact that RN has stopped working on it. This will mean it'll gradually fall back. If RN was continuing to develop and improve K++ then I'm sure it would continue to be the more popular choice :)

tralalala

11-26-2003, 01:37 PM

thanks mate.

one thing: next tome, put all of those 3 posts to one... compress and zip lol

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 01:40 PM

:) the third post i tried to see what method i would need to get it working on this board...still trying :P

http://www.fileheaven.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113
http://forum.sharereactor.com/viewtopic.php?t=165794

Both completely different methods.
I'm sure the board you use will have similar post.

tralalala

11-26-2003, 01:51 PM

wow, thanks, that one from sharereactor was great help!!!! thanks again mate :)

tralalala

Rappy

11-26-2003, 02:05 PM

we just have to spread the word about k lite its superior to all the other posers lol

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by tralalala@26 November 2003 - 14:51
wow, thanks, that one from sharereactor was great help!!!! thanks again mate :)

tralalala
success???

Say why K-Lite is better than emule :P? lol.
http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/ind...?showtopic=3475 (http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=3475)
Here are my reasons why emule is a better P2P

you'll need to scroll down a bit.

tralalala

11-26-2003, 02:12 PM

lol, no need for that YET... i suggest we do that once eMule is over the 4 million mark... os then we have a reason to worry lol

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 02:13 PM

what about when kazaa's number drops then? :)

tralalala

11-26-2003, 02:20 PM

kazaas numbers will NOT drop unless the damn RIAA or MPAA find a way of getting people sharing stuff (which for some funny reason i think will not happen... lol)

well, im off to get ready for basketball practice, bye for now!!!!!

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 02:21 PM

could you send me a PM later on about what emule site you were trying to post on. Could be a site i havent added to my current list:
http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/ind...?showtopic=2186 (http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=2186)

tralalala

11-26-2003, 06:16 PM

lol... i didnt know you could read hebrew.. lol, here it is anyway:
The Lionetwork (http://www.lionetwork.net)

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 06:18 PM

a man of many talents i am lol jk.
thanks, helpful for hebrew reading users :D

>>ADDED to list.

tralalala

11-26-2003, 06:22 PM

i wonder.......... how many hebrew readers ARE there in this forum?! :unsure: spooky... lol

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

11-26-2003, 06:48 PM

my guess, most of the people from israel :)

tralalala

11-26-2003, 07:34 PM

lol... youll be surprised how many russians we have that emigrated.... and dont even know how to say yes, no, please and thank you!!!!!!

tralalala

tralalala

12-02-2003, 02:25 PM

*bump* ;)

come on guys, cast your votes, we need a good look at what the majority of this forums members think about eMule and k-lite battling it out.

p.s: i stopped using eMule, so is there a way i can change my vote to k-lite?! :unsure: cos eMule downloaded me some damn trojan so i ha to get my computer reformatted!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

12-02-2003, 02:41 PM

emule downloaded some trojans? should it be you add some trojans to your list? :P

You can still do the same through kazaa...besides a good anti-virus prog should have stopped it dead.

Mata

12-02-2003, 04:12 PM

If eMule is faster i will use it, until then Kazaa RULES

Sparkle1984

12-02-2003, 04:39 PM

I don't think it will defeat, because it's too slow, too much queuing

tralalala

12-03-2003, 11:42 AM

lately, quite a few of my mates got "virused" by eMule downloading crappy virusses, trojans and worms.
i got my HD reformatted (and got an 80GB HD added :P)

so from now on... k-lite rules for god!!!!!

p.s: i didnt get an answer: can i have my vote changed from eMule to k-lite?! please?! pretty pretty please with a cherry on top?

tralalala

Mortadelo1

12-03-2003, 07:42 PM

Also you can get viruses through Kazaa Lite... :rolleyes:

thisiswhoweare

12-03-2003, 08:50 PM

which is what i said a few posts back. I guess kazaa users become to immune to the fact that viruses can occur using kazaa since they've been bombarded by too many. :P

venom_il

12-04-2003, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@26 November 2003 - 20:34
lol... youll be surprised how many russians we have that emigrated.... and dont even know how to say yes, no, please and thank you!!!!!!

Yes but they can say "do you have a cartis moadon" perfectly !!! ;)

tralalala

12-04-2003, 08:54 AM

lol... yeah

also, i guess i have only been virused by k-lite 3 times after like 1 year whereas i got "trojaned" by eMule after 1 month...

tralalala

Angel Of Destiny

12-05-2003, 01:39 PM

I think most people are moveing over to emule in hopes that the damn RIAA wont follow them there :P

people seem to be freaked out about all the people who use kazaa and get sued , its a very good program too it just needs faster download speeds :P that credit system bites but if you disable downloading in full chunks its a bit faster (because after its done downloading your 9mb chunk it will put you on the persons waiting list agian but if you disable it then you can keep downloading the file until its done)

thisiswhoweare

12-05-2003, 04:15 PM

the credit system has very little effect on priority. Indeed the more you share to a user the more you have, but as venom pointed out a while back, the priority of a file is more important.

You do know by disabling the chunk download so that the file is as if it was one big one will mean there isnt anyway to redownload parts again if the file is corrupted. If you meant to still have them retain the chunks system but allow a user to download from another user or more till it is complete then theres no way of making sure the downloader will upload that file/chunks out to others after they have completed it....so you'll end up with a dead file. Not much use on any p2p's.

tralalala

12-06-2003, 05:22 PM

lol thisiswhoweare... im gettin freaked out cos of how much you know about eMule... did you do a PhD on eMule?? lolol

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

12-06-2003, 05:27 PM

well im a betatester for emuleplus since may, so ive gotten used to how it all works :) i wish i was doing a PHD on it, it'll be a lot easier than the course im doing now... :( :P

tralalala

12-06-2003, 05:35 PM

thisiswhoweare Posted on 6 December 2003 - 20:27
  well im a betatester for emuleplus since may, so ive gotten used to how it all works  i wish i was doing a PHD on it, it'll be a lot easier than the course im doing now...   

which would be...? :book:

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

12-06-2003, 05:41 PM

games programming.

tralalala

12-06-2003, 08:35 PM

well, maybe a lot easier... but i think game programming is amazing.. one of the most amazing and cool things around mate.

what are you currently programming??

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

12-06-2003, 08:48 PM

well my programming really sucks....might be retaking this yr again.
I havent actually gotten round to anything which i could fully use to make a game, but at the moment im studying how to code simple graphics (how to draw lines and triangles and such).... :blink:

Johnny_B

12-07-2003, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by thisiswhoweare@24 November 2003 - 14:37
well i think kazaa's reward system is based on how much files you share (ie in size) and emules is how much you have uploaded. AFAIK in kazaa there is no file that stores how much a user has uploaded to you, or how much you have downloaded from a user so i'm assuming the participation level does work on amount currently being shared.

Could be wrong though.
Sorry to say this, thiswhoweare, but you're wrong.
Kazaa's participation level is determined by how much you upload and download, not how much data you have in your shared folder.
Here's the maths:

(Uploads in MB / Downloads in MB) * 100 = Your participation level

Kazaa's Participation Level (http://www.kazaa.com/us/help/glossary/participation_ratio.htm)

The big difference is that eMule stores your credits in other people's computers and Kazaa's participation level is stored in your computer (it's stored in the registry).
This makes it easier for people to hack Kazaa's PL (I can still remember the old Rocko hack! :D ), but not eMule's credit system.

That's why I don't understand why everybody complains about Kazaa and the participation level, but for eMule it seems to be alright.
Why? Because eMule is freeware and open source? Is that why eMule shouldn't be questioned?
Even MLDonkey's devs have questioned eMule's credit system. See here (http://mldonkey.berlios.de/modules.php?name=Wiki&pagename=eMuleCreditSystem) the positive and the negative effects.

Wether we like it or not, it's the credit system that's responsible for the massive queues and for slowing down the whole network.

thisiswhoweare

12-07-2003, 12:56 AM

if you notice the AFAIK and "I think" in my post it was added because i wasnt certain. Although i feel pretty sure they are different in calculating credit (btw kazaa says it improves credit for indicating integrity of files, which emule doesnt do). Anyway it isnt important, both networks work differently to each other, hence the difference in speeds.

"That's why I don't understand why everybody complains about Kazaa and the participation level, but for eMule it seems to be alright."

you kinda answered it.

"The big difference is that eMule stores your credits in other people's computers and Kazaa's participation level is stored in your computer (it's stored in the registry).
This makes it easier for people to hack Kazaa's PL (I can still remember the old Rocko hack! ), but not eMule's credit system."

Whats the point of having credit systems where everyone has equal credit. Might as well get rid of it if thats the case.

J'Pol

12-07-2003, 01:01 AM

I have tried e-mule. I don't like it.

For me it's K++, Soulseek, BitTorrent and DC. That covers everything I want.

Johnny_B

12-07-2003, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by thisiswhoweare@6 December 2003 - 23:56
if you notice the AFAIK and "I think" in my post it was added because i wasnt certain. Although i feel pretty sure they are different in calculating credit (btw kazaa says it improves credit for indicating integrity of files, which emule doesnt do). Anyway it isnt important, both networks work differently to each other, hence the difference in speeds.

Yes, Kazaa and eMule have different ways of calculating the credits, but it's the same principle.
Remember that Kazaa tried to copy the ed2k credit system with its own PL.

People's feedback on the PL was awful. People couldn't download anything with a decent speed and in decent time.
They had to upload lots of data to improve their PL, which for newbies didn't make any sense since they were just starting and had no useful files to share.
This then led to people sharing their whole hard drives in order to upload something and get a higher PL.
The network got full of viruses and trojans because of this.

Renamed files were/are still a problem because of the PL too.
Example: I have a porn movie and a low PL. I'll just rename my porn movie to "The Matrix Revolutions" and watch my PL skyrocket.

This is why most eMule servers limit the number of your shared files, and why it has a fake report system.
If eMule were as popular as Kazaa and if it didn't have these 2 features, it would be pretty much like FastTrack.

Conclusion: eMule has a similar crappy reward system as Kazaa, which slows down the network. It has, however, better features to enforce the credit system and keep the network clean.

"That's why I don't understand why everybody complains about Kazaa and the participation level, but for eMule it seems to be alright."

you kinda answered it.

How did I answer it? :blink:
Are you saying it's OK for eMule to have a crappy credit system, but not Kazaa? Why?
If you don't have a problem with eMule's credit system, then I'm sure Kazaa's PL won't be a problem too.
I think both reward systems are unfair. That's why I won't suck up for eMule. Why should I? Just because it's an open source freeware program?
No thanks.

Whats the point of having credit systems where everyone has equal credit. Might as well get rid of it if thats the case.

Exactly. Get rid of it!
BitTorrent and K-Lite both use the "first-come, first-serve" method, which, as you can see by the speeds, works.
No credits and no priviliges whatsoever. Everybody is equal, as it should be.

thisiswhoweare

12-07-2003, 02:33 AM

servers limit files numbers not to reduce fakes but because they add strains onto the servers.

I think we're both lost somewhere. You asked why people dont complain about the emule system but they do about kazaa's, well i said that the answer you gave about credit being stored on others computers is why. It stops people faking credit.

"Whats the point of having credit systems where everyone has equal credit. Might as well get rid of it if thats the case." -- I was referring to kazaa and removing the PL since most people use klite to get high PL. I like the credit system, as it provides an incentive to share files people want. But since credit on emule isnt as important as how long youve waited in the queue or the prority the user has given the file then they are served on an almost first come first served basis.

Like i said before about the slowness, its because of the networks work. Emule works by letting you download a chunk (sometimes more, sometimes less), then returns you back to the queue. During waiting to redownload the other parts, other users get to download them parts off you. Likewise for them. This repeats until the user gets the full parts.
Kazaa's network lets you download from start to finish. During which other users cant download from them as they arent allowed to download partials. Only during the files completion can they share. But whats to stop the user from unsharing?...nothing. Which means one less source to download from, and you'll end up with dead files.

Johnny_B

12-07-2003, 03:50 AM

"Whats the point of having credit systems where everyone has equal credit. Might as well get rid of it if thats the case." -- I was referring to kazaa and removing the PL since most people use klite to get high PL. I like the credit system, as it provides an incentive to share files people want. But since credit on emule isnt as important as how long youve waited in the queue or the prority the user has given the file then they are served on an almost first come first served basis.
The credit system in eMule doesn't incentive anyone to share files, it forces them. This makes no sense to someone who is just getting started in the p2p world and has nothing useful to share.
The "first come, first served" system in eMule isn't a reality because the credit system is there. If the credits exist, there is no way "first come, first serve" is a possibility since there is always someone with more credits and thus more privileges over a newbie, for example.

Like i said before about the slowness, its because of the networks work. Emule works by letting you download a chunk (sometimes more, sometimes less), then returns you back to the queue. During waiting to redownload the other parts, other users get to download them parts off you. Likewise for them. This repeats until the user gets the full parts.
By allowing partilal filesharing, eMule should be much faster since the files can be downloaded and uploaded on-the-fly, just like BitTorrent's "tit-for-tat".
Why doesn't this happen? Why is the network still so slow, even with partial filesharing?
The credit system is to be blamed.

thisiswhoweare

12-07-2003, 03:58 AM

emule does not in anyway force users to share. Users can share or not share files and still use it unlike examples such as DC where you need to share GBs of stuff to download. Trust me, little or a lot of credits doesnt matter. My brother used emule a while back with no credits/files being shared. When downloading sims he was hitting full speeds only after a few hours waiting. That doesnt seem to be a problem there.

Blame the credit system if you will, i dont believe it is.

Feel free to ask on the official boards as im interested in knowing whether your statements are indeed true.

Not sure why it isnt faster because of partial sharing, another reason to post this issue on the officials.

tralalala

12-07-2003, 10:29 AM

man... im really getting lost here... im reading, but its as if i didnt get passed the first 3 words!!!

can you write a step-by-step "guide" to how the eMule system works?? (as in 1)bla bla bla 2)bla bla bla... and so on)

tralalala

isepiq

12-07-2003, 10:50 AM

I don't get it. I could not live without my Klite++ AND eMule both!!! When I need a song, music, background, picture, cover, first thing I boot up is Klite++. When I want a movie, software, game, I boot up eMule. The ONLY reason eMule works better for me on 'some things' is cause of sites like sharereactor that have amazingly high quality 'links' to 100% verified and working 'stuff'.
I have tried getting mp3's on eMule and was not happy cause it just was not Klite++. Been spoiled, hahhaha.
By the by, I have tried turning 'credits' off in eMule, which you CAN do, and my downloads slowed to a crawl every time. I get the fastest speeds with them on. I average from 200 to 600 K total, with about 20 or 30 files going or in line. I just get up each morning and see whats done and burn it and play with it or watch it etc. I recall the days of 300 bits, ugh. Now we get Bytes in the thousands per second, whew! Fun.

IMHO
isepiq B)

tralalala

12-07-2003, 10:59 AM

know what? do you know of a verifieds database for k-lite? please? that way i will not ever need to use that DAMN Mule in my LIFE!!!! :rtfm: :tank: :shit: :nono: :gunsmile: :frusty: :crazy: :censored: :boxing: :swear:

lol i love those new emotions (still, they currently express my feelings about that GODDAMN eMule!!!!!!)

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

12-07-2003, 11:30 AM

tis the season to be jolly, tralalalala la la la la. .......er....sorry...
http://www.emule-project.net/board/index.php?showtopic=24704
Not exactly step by step but easier than my jabbering.

Ive never seen a mule which allows credits to be turned off. Personally i cant see why such a feature is ever put in anyway. I remember getting lowIDs, and speeds as high as 1KB on emule....ahhh, the days of bad configuration. Im glad i stuck with it.

thisiswhoweare

12-07-2003, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by tralalala@7 December 2003 - 10:59
know what? do you know of a verifieds database for k-lite? please? that way i will not ever need to use that DAMN Mule in my LIFE!!!! :rtfm: :tank: :shit: :nono: :gunsmile: :frusty: :crazy: :censored: :boxing: :swear:

lol i love those new emotions (still, they currently express my feelings about that GODDAMN eMule!!!!!!)

tralalala
dont go blaming me mule friend for your virus man. :P i bet you forced it to download it.....tsk tsk :rolleyes: only got yourself to blame. :D

Will_518

12-07-2003, 12:20 PM

I just tried downloading over-night yesterday. left both eMule and KLite on, guess which got more byte?

Yes, eMule got nearly 670MB, while k-lite hardly reached 400MB. over the 12 hours. And in the same time i uploaded 627MB on eMule and 0MB on K-lite; so, the reason is pretty obvious.

So, yes, i'd say eMule's won that one. But you need servers for eMule?! And K-lite have 26 million users, so, which is better, i'm still undecided.

james_bond_rulez

12-07-2003, 12:22 PM

26 million users? where did you get that figure from?

it's 4 million at best..

tralalala

12-07-2003, 12:24 PM

i shall repeat my question AGAIN:
does anyone here know of a VERIFIEDS database for k-lite downloads?

thanks

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

12-07-2003, 12:25 PM

:D BIG CHEER

at the moment, emule does use servers, but emule official are testing a kademlia version (making it use no servers like overnet), so in the future we dont need to reply on them anymore.

Not sure on this correct me if im wrong, but it doesnt matter how much in total there are in kazaa users. When you join a node, you can only download from the users in those nodes, so say you joined a node with 4 million users, your limited to those for your sources, in effect not using the other 22 milllion. In emule, all servers are checked for sources and therefore the total number is important.
Besides it even with more users your mules downloaded more.

james_bond_rulez

12-07-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by tralalala@7 December 2003 - 12:24
i shall repeat my question AGAIN:
does anyone here know of a VERIFIEDS database for k-lite downloads?

thanks

tralalala
http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=86297

<_<

imnotanaddict

12-07-2003, 01:25 PM

sharedholder

12-07-2003, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by imnotanaddict+7 December 2003 - 13:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (imnotanaddict @ 7 December 2003 - 13:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tralalala@7 December 2003 - 12:24
i shall repeat my question AGAIN:
does anyone here know of a VERIFIEDS database for k-lite downloads?

thanks

tralalala
http://www.findhash.com/ ;) [/b][/quote]
http://www.kazaalitetools.tk/

imnotanaddict

12-07-2003, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by sharedholder+7 December 2003 - 13:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sharedholder @ 7 December 2003 - 13:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by imnotanaddict@7 December 2003 - 13:25
<!--QuoteBegin-tralalala@7 December 2003 - 12:24
i shall repeat my question AGAIN:
does anyone here know of a VERIFIEDS database for k-lite downloads?

thanks

tralalala
http://www.findhash.com/ ;)
http://www.kazaalitetools.tk/ [/b][/quote]
Thats a hell of a link...goes in save list forsure. :)

tralalala

12-07-2003, 02:41 PM

ooooooooooookey, i think those were plenty :)

thanks a lot
tralalala

tralalala

12-13-2003, 04:02 PM

*bump* ;) cant let this one get too far out

tralalala

ZeroTolerance

12-13-2003, 04:39 PM

:o :) WHY DONT EVERYBODY DOWNLOAD THEM BOTH ADN SHUT THE FUCK UP!

tralalala

12-14-2003, 12:31 PM

hey mate, no reason to swear or get cranky for nothing...
i opened the topic to see what the members of this amazing forum think of the "rise and fall" of the 2 programmes. if your not willing to participate, fine then, thats your choice... i was only trying to get some public oppinion.

tralalala

sparsely

12-14-2003, 12:37 PM

/me hasn't use k-lite for any real downloading for a long, long time.

tralalala

12-14-2003, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Sparsely@14 December 2003 - 15:37
/me hasn't use k-lite for any real downloading for a long, long time.
ummmmm, what do you mean by "real downloading"???????
:huh:

tralalala

thisiswhoweare

12-14-2003, 02:22 PM

im assuming he means any real (large file) downloading...or any downloading in general. :P

tralalala

12-15-2003, 02:22 PM

so the fact that i downlaod LOADS of music off k-lite means im not "really downloading"?? so what am i actually doing?! lol :P

tralalala

cappella(m)

12-16-2003, 12:13 AM

I didn't read all the post here..but I don't liike emule at all.. It sux.. the speed is much much slower than at k-lite . You've to wait 3 hours until a download starts.. with k-lite I get what I want almost immediately.. But with emule you've to leave your pc on for days or even weeks.. If you use a programm like emule than use overnet.. It connects also immediately..but the speed still sucks! Shareaza is also too slow.. Fasttrack is and was the fastest network

Airforce1500

12-16-2003, 01:18 AM

is there an english version?

thisiswhoweare

12-16-2003, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by cappella(m)@15 December 2003 - 23:13
I didn't read all the post here..but I don't liike emule at all.. It sux.. the speed is much much slower than at k-lite . You've to wait 3 hours until a download starts.. with k-lite I get what I want almost immediately.. But with emule you've to leave your pc on for days or even weeks.. If you use a programm like emule than use overnet.. It connects also immediately..but the speed still sucks! Shareaza is also too slow.. Fasttrack is and was the fastest network
kinda the same thing said from most kazaa users
anyway your loss. :P

agr3kko

12-16-2003, 01:32 AM

eMule and KaZaA are pretty equal.... eMule I find alot rarer stuff than KaZaA.

KaZaA has horrible searching.

guit_steel

12-16-2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by thisiswhoweare@15 December 2003 - 20:28
kinda the same thing said from most kazaa users
anyway your loss. :P
KL purists r going to flame me, but KL is enjoyed most by those who prefer brain dead sharing. Sure other p2ps, like eMule, make u work a bit harder. The rewards, however, tend to be higher.

If u want to dedicate urself to an app that caters to the lowest possible denominator, stick with Kazaa. If not, try some other p2p apps. U just might find one that is better suited to ur usage. Ur efforts will be rewarded!

thisiswhoweare

12-16-2003, 06:15 PM

:rolleyes: agree with guit steel.

Kazaa is one of those easier to start, but difficult to maintain. And emule is difficult to configure but easy to use afterwards. I see quite a lot of users in the emule section so thats nice to see :)

brotherdoobie

12-16-2003, 08:03 PM

I find it limiting to pick a favorite file sharing program.
I believe a multi tiered approach works best for me. :)

KL....emule......IRC.......SoulSeek....Newsgroups.....ect.

Peace brotherdoobie

tralalala

12-16-2003, 08:06 PM

right guit steel... im about to :flame: you now... lol

k-lite is a lot better for music than eMule, no question there.
eMule is better for software and movies..

k-lite is a lot better for me because my usage of it is perfect - i want music, and lots of it... and k-lite provides me with the speeds and maintenance for music...

tralalala

gavin

12-16-2003, 08:17 PM

i dont seem to get on with e mule it never connects

6/12/2003 19:15:57: Connecting to Server 194.97.40.162 (194.97.40.162:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:15:57: Connecting to Server 193.111.198.137 (193.111.198.137:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:16:17: Server 194.97.40.162 (194.97.40.162:4242) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:16:17: Connecting to Server 193.111.199.211 (193.111.199.211:4661)...
16/12/2003 19:16:18: Server 193.111.198.137 (193.111.198.137:4242) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:16:18: Connecting to Server 66.111.61.10 (66.111.61.10:4661)...
16/12/2003 19:16:19: Server 193.111.199.211 (193.111.199.211:4661) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:16:19: Connecting to Server 193.111.198.138 (193.111.198.138:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:16:19: Server 66.111.61.10 (66.111.61.10:4661) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:16:19: Connecting to Server 193.111.198.139 (193.111.198.139:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:16:39: Server 193.111.198.138 (193.111.198.138:4242) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:16:39: Connecting to Server 66.111.54.190 (66.111.54.190:4224)...
16/12/2003 19:16:40: Server 193.111.198.139 (193.111.198.139:4242) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:16:40: Connecting to Server 66.111.39.20 (66.111.39.20:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:16:40: Connected to Server 66.111.39.20 (66.111.39.20:4242), sending login request
16/12/2003 19:16:40: Warning Server 66.111.39.20 (66.111.39.20:4242) - This server is full.
16/12/2003 19:16:40: Server 66.111.39.20 (66.111.39.20:4242) appears to be full
16/12/2003 19:16:40: Connecting to Server 207.44.222.51 (207.44.222.51:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:16:41: Server 66.111.54.190 (66.111.54.190:4224) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:16:41: Connecting to Server 207.44.222.54 (207.44.222.54:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:17:01: Server 207.44.222.51 (207.44.222.51:4242) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:17:01: Connecting to Server 195.112.128.222 (195.112.128.222:6667)...
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Connected to Server 195.112.128.222 (195.112.128.222:6667), sending login request
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Server 207.44.222.54 (207.44.222.54:4242) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Connecting to Server 66.111.52.200 (66.111.52.200:4224)...
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Connected to Server 66.111.52.200 (66.111.52.200:4224), sending login request
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Error Server 195.112.128.222 (195.112.128.222:6667) - Connection refused : The server is full.
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Server 195.112.128.222 (195.112.128.222:6667) appears to be full
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Connecting to Server 207.44.206.27 (207.44.206.27:4242)...
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Warning Server 66.111.52.200 (66.111.52.200:4224) - El servidor esta lleno.
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Server 66.111.52.200 (66.111.52.200:4224) appears to be full
16/12/2003 19:17:02: Connecting to Server 207.44.222.47 (207.44.222.47:4661)...
16/12/2003 19:17:03: Server 207.44.206.27 (207.44.206.27:4242) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:17:03: Connecting to Server 62.16.36.238 (62.16.36.238:4661)...
16/12/2003 19:17:05: Connected to Server 207.44.222.47 (207.44.222.47:4661), sending login request
16/12/2003 19:17:05: Server 207.44.222.47 (207.44.222.47:4661) appears to be full
16/12/2003 19:17:05: Connecting to Server 64.246.38.98 (64.246.38.98:6667)...
16/12/2003 19:17:24: Server 62.16.36.238 (62.16.36.238:4661) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:17:24: Connecting to Server 66.227.96.151 (66.227.96.151:4661)...
16/12/2003 19:17:26: Server 64.246.38.98 (64.246.38.98:6667) appears to be dead.
16/12/2003 19:17:26: Connecting to Server 207.44.212.107 (207.44.212.107:4661)...
16/12/2003 19:17:28: Server 207.44.212.107 (207.44.212.107:4661) appears to be dead.

just goes on and on

thisiswhoweare

12-16-2003, 08:22 PM

make sure to delete any failed servers after x retries in the preferences.
Update the server.met too.
Try changing ports too to see if it will help.

At the moment, there seems to be server issues. Well for me anyway, sometimes i can't connect but after a restart it connects right away.

Angel Of Destiny

12-16-2003, 08:24 PM

Songs, Porn, Movies = Kazaa Lite (for its speed and easy to use)

Software, ISO Files,Albums = eMule (for its search results)

tralalala

12-16-2003, 08:54 PM

also, make sure your not using one of the so called "hacked" eMules... i tried one and it never connected...

tralalala

death0matic

12-16-2003, 10:16 PM

sorry i'ven never heard of BitTorrent. is it like K++ a p2p software ? can anyone plz send me the link to download BitTorrent. :unsure:

guit_steel

12-16-2003, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by death0matic@16 December 2003 - 17:16
sorry i'ven never heard of BitTorrent. is it like K++ a p2p software ? can anyone plz send me the link to download BitTorrent. :unsure:
http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showforum=59

tralalala

12-17-2003, 12:34 PM

no... bittorrent is nowhere near the same as k-lite... its totally different.
it has a verifieds site (suprnova.org i think) and... well... i dont know... only used it once, and it is absolutely NOTHING like any other P2P software programme youve used...

more info with the link guit steel sent you (the bottorrent forum of this board)

tralalala

tralalala

12-24-2003, 07:28 AM

*bump* ;)

not enough votes yet...

tralalala

sparsely

12-24-2003, 07:42 AM

i couldn't really say...
I stopped using k-lite about a year or so ago, in favor of ed2k & others.
I'm afraid it's going to start to suck now, with so many people moving to it...

tralalala

12-24-2003, 08:43 AM

lol, im likin' the new christmas-like features of the board.... really authentic :)

tralalala

unilad13

01-02-2004, 11:12 AM

I tried WinMX and it was useless. Would not d-load anything. Likewise Morpheus, e-donkey and a host of others. K-Lite has been the best thus far, and iMesh very good, but I think it pings (or whatever) my phone line and sends up my phone bill somehow (increase of local phone calls), whereas K-Lite doesn't appear to do this. Will try Bittorent (?) and Ares.

http://thenetworkmentor.com, Access Code: 95992 (http://thenetworkmentor.com)http://fire.prohosting.com/ironbuck/network.jpg

sharedholder

01-02-2004, 12:43 PM

Use Overnet Lite instead of eMule.Amazing speeds. :D

tralalala

01-02-2004, 01:06 PM

how many users are on overnet-lite?

tralalala

p.s: ive been told that DC++ has speeds of like 200 kb/s... how many use that one?

tralalala

sharedholder

01-02-2004, 01:09 PM

http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/020104-784JHDF84IJK495.jpg

tralalala

01-02-2004, 02:37 PM

ooooooooooookey, now, can you give me a link to download overnet-lite??

also, what is DC++ and is it any good???

tralalala

sharedholder

01-02-2004, 02:43 PM

http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=91053

tralalala

01-02-2004, 03:02 PM

thanks SH, it seems to quite a good programme, seems to be hogging the bandwidth, but never mind, thanks mate!! :)

tralalala

gamemaster1342

01-04-2004, 07:58 AM

kazaa/klite will always be better than emule and be more popular

BT will give kazaa a run for its money and shareaza is definitely helping that because will any BT program dl speed was slow but using Shareaza i dl @ 100 Kb/s easily.

Also I have tried Ares which is pretty much kazaa without ads and has its own supernodes even will not even 100,000 people on there you still get go speed and queues are usually very, very short

Keikan

01-04-2004, 09:06 AM

I'm using it *ding* :)

guit_steel

01-04-2004, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by gamemaster1342@4 January 2004 - 02:58
kazaa/klite will always be better than emule and be more popular
Probably true for the casual user but how many crap files does a savvy user have to wade through before he gives up on FT? There r too many other options out there that r better tailored to experienced users to hope for much improvement in Kazaa.

tralalala

01-04-2004, 03:05 PM

yup, thats the only problem with k-lite

tralalala

RvE

01-05-2004, 02:43 AM

mule may not be "better" in speed for some users, but when other k-lite users keep on herasing others about not finding their shared files....
ok... some time ago a user asked me nicely if (s)he could vieuw my list so i disabled the "hide list" 4 about 3 minutes
but mostly i get messages like
you :censored: here and :censored::censored::censored: there and worse
verry inpolite and usually with something like i'll hack your comp etc. as the last thread in those mails
these things can get ppl to stop using a program where it sometimes takes only 3 to 4 months for a download to start and where at least 60% of the fake movies are hadrcore porn!
so... emule may not be better, but the community seems a whole lot nicer and fake files get marked so that ppl know about them

RvE

digmen1

01-06-2004, 07:24 PM

Sharedholder

That is a brilliant little chart !

I would love to be able to see again every few months !

How could we arrange that ?

Digby

tralalala

01-06-2004, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by RvE@5 January 2004 - 05:43
mule may not be "better" in speed for some users, but when other k-lite users keep on herasing others about not finding their shared files....
ok... some time ago a user asked me nicely if (s)he could vieuw my list so i disabled the "hide list" 4 about 3 minutes
but mostly i get messages like
you :censored: here and :censored::censored::censored: there and worse
verry inpolite and usually with something like i'll hack your comp etc. as the last thread in those mails
these things can get ppl to stop using a program where it sometimes takes only 3 to 4 months for a download to start and where at least 60% of the fake movies are hadrcore porn!
so... emule may not be better, but the community seems a whole lot nicer and fake files get marked so that ppl know about them

RvE
there is one, simple way of preventing this - ignoring messages... theres an option to ignore all incoming messages mate, use it - and youll not have this problem again ;)

tralalala