iLOVENZB
06-01-2011, 09:21 AM
A couple of days ago I saw a segment on 4 Corners about the live cattle trade to Indonesia.
Not sure if international users can watch iView shows but the episode is still on there:
http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/775504
Here's a news article:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/30/3230817.htm
Some of the scenes are pretty horrific. I'm just glad we have OH&S over here sometimes. Cows over there were skinned on the same floor they were killed on. Someone was even smoking while moving a rump on his shoulders. Lot's of bare shirted butchers and kids standing around in the abattoir (no protective clothing, boots etc).
At my old work I was in a discussion about Halal produce. Long and short of the way he explained it to me was; that the animal had to be alive while it's killed but it has to be quick and minimise pain as much as possible. An argument about not using the stun gun was that the animal wasn't technically alive, I'm sure if stun guns were around when the Halal laws came out it would of been implemented.
From a business point of view it's more productive and efficient to use the stun gun instead of fucking around trying to trip the animal and slash at the neck.
The report seemed to focus mainly on Australian cattle and their treatment but seemed to not really care about the treatment about the rest of the cattle being slaughtered in Indonesia.
For the record I'm not a vegan and happened to live on a meat farm for most of my childhood in Australia. The scenes I watched were no where near what would be tolerated here.
Not sure if international users can watch iView shows but the episode is still on there:
http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/775504
Here's a news article:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/30/3230817.htm
Some of the scenes are pretty horrific. I'm just glad we have OH&S over here sometimes. Cows over there were skinned on the same floor they were killed on. Someone was even smoking while moving a rump on his shoulders. Lot's of bare shirted butchers and kids standing around in the abattoir (no protective clothing, boots etc).
At my old work I was in a discussion about Halal produce. Long and short of the way he explained it to me was; that the animal had to be alive while it's killed but it has to be quick and minimise pain as much as possible. An argument about not using the stun gun was that the animal wasn't technically alive, I'm sure if stun guns were around when the Halal laws came out it would of been implemented.
From a business point of view it's more productive and efficient to use the stun gun instead of fucking around trying to trip the animal and slash at the neck.
The report seemed to focus mainly on Australian cattle and their treatment but seemed to not really care about the treatment about the rest of the cattle being slaughtered in Indonesia.
For the record I'm not a vegan and happened to live on a meat farm for most of my childhood in Australia. The scenes I watched were no where near what would be tolerated here.