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bobbintb
06-17-2011, 02:23 PM
ive been looking to find a good free usenet server for months now. ive tried justfortoday but the retention is only 14 days. ive tried contacting in threads and pming users that have stated there are good servers with fast speeds and lots of retention all for free if i just take the time to look. im about to call bullshit on that because every so often for the past few years i try looking again and come up with nothing, and im not one of those noobs who spends no effort finding their own answers and just asks someone first. ive looked hard and my google fu hasnt failed me before. i dont need a whole noob tutorial. just someone to point me in the right direction.

mjmacky
06-17-2011, 03:17 PM
maybe the ipv6 is what they're referring to? I don't know, in this case paying $11/mo is much easier than going through all that hassle for a solution that's not permanent.

As far as free servers go, I don't think any of them are going to offer amazing speeds and great retention.

bobbintb
06-17-2011, 03:22 PM
this is mostly what i am refering to:

Let me quote myself, and can't stress enough: I HAVE NO PAID SUBSCRIPTION WHATSOEVER:


It can take some effort and some time but usenet can be free too.
This is a snapshot of my Sabnzbd Usenet-client that I use without any kind of paying subscription at all.

http://i55.tinypic.com/1t36hc.png
Translation:
Omvang = Total Size Downloaded
Deze maand = Downloaded this month
Deze week = Downloaded this week.

Keep in mind I deleted my history about 3 months ago.

thats with 500+ days retention

mjmacky
06-17-2011, 03:46 PM
Like I said before, I think they are referring to IPV6 servers. IPV4, which we are using now would be VERY easy to setup to use so I don't think he's talking about that.

bobbintb
06-17-2011, 04:01 PM
well i assumed that much but have not really been able to find an ipv6 server such as he describes.

Cabalo
06-17-2011, 04:22 PM
Because it's an IPv4 server. Do you know how to use Wireshark?

Disme
06-17-2011, 04:46 PM
http://binload.com/

mjmacky
06-17-2011, 06:57 PM
Ohhh I see the deal there. Not a permanent solution though, what'll you do after that?

Disme
06-17-2011, 08:48 PM
Ohhh I see the deal there. Not a permanent solution though, what'll you do after that?

Lol ... I never said that was the only tric up my sleeve :)

The OP asked for a 'good' free usenet server and I gave him one.

I all my options eventually stop working, I'll get me a paid subscription, but for now it has been working for many many months.

mjmacky
06-17-2011, 09:03 PM
Sounds rough, like rougher than losing out on $11/mo

Disme
06-18-2011, 07:50 AM
Sounds rough, like rougher than losing out on $11/mo

Nope it ain't, not for me in any case. I'm a member at some Belgian/Dutch Usenet communities where these 'free'-solutions are posted rather frequently.
But I have to admit that the ipv6-thingy is the best 'free'-trick out there. It's just sad that xsnews stopped taking new test-accounts for ipv6-users.

hdjunky
06-18-2011, 04:21 PM
Although not free but at 5 bucks or 60 a year frugal usenet may be something to check out. At least it would save headaches on trying to track one down all the time.

Arguti
06-19-2011, 01:36 PM
I donīt care with the speed. Is there any free server, ipv6 or not, with a huge retention?

I already checked binload.

Stabber
06-19-2011, 03:01 PM
Doesn't the ipv6 trick reduce your downlolad speed because of tunneling ?

I've tried gogonet and i'm getting only 300kb/s max , whereas with torrents i get 2mb/s

Disme
06-19-2011, 03:28 PM
No it doesn't, at least not with my ipv6-tunnel.

Most freeservers at this time are dead. I still get between 3-4 MB/s with ipv6 and binload.

No complaints here. But as already mentioned xsnews has stopped taking test accounts, so if you didn't already had an account the ipv6 boat has sailed, since xsnews is the best. Newszilla ain't as good as xsnews by far.

Cabalo
06-19-2011, 03:37 PM
Doesn't the ipv6 trick reduce your downlolad speed because of tunneling ?

I've tried gogonet and i'm getting only 300kb/s max , whereas with torrents i get 2mb/s
The tunnel is merely for routing IPs, protocol negotiation. The download chunk itself is not routed via their servers. Now, you may experience slow downs due to high network latency, which gogonet was known for.

Stabber
06-19-2011, 03:39 PM
I already have xsnews account , but gogonet amsterdam server is not good enough . I get low speeds .

What are the other alternatives for ipv4-to-ipv6 tunneling ?

Cabalo
06-19-2011, 04:11 PM
Hurricane Electric.

Stabber
06-19-2011, 04:32 PM
Thanks for your suggestion cabalo , i've already tried that , i wish there was some kind of software to use the tunnel instead of messing with the command line each time i restart my router.

Because my ip is dynamic , i have to do the same procedure each time . Anyways i will try again to register to sixxs , hopefully this time they will accept me . I was rejected because i didn't put my middle name , it sucks .

Btw binload is a great great service , i get great speeds , about 1,9 mb/s max , and it's free and i hope it stays that way for a very long time .

mjmacky
06-19-2011, 05:25 PM
Hurricane Electric.

Sounds like a Louisiana Utility Company

Stabber
06-19-2011, 08:59 PM
Holy s... it works , finally . I've found a ipv6 server on my country i'm getting max speed with xsnews .

Does anyone else getting some weird speed results on binload ?

It goes up instantly at 2.66 mb/s which i never managed to get that high speed , and then goes down to 100 kb/s . I think the speed display is wrong

Cabalo
06-19-2011, 09:01 PM
It should be some display problem, using only binload, my connection is always maxed out at 3.6MB/s.
Remember, you can use 10 connections simultaneously.

Stabber
06-19-2011, 09:17 PM
Yes i know that , ive tried to raise it to 20 connections to improve my speed and i did actually raise a lot

Does anyone know what is the retention , speed , and connections used for xsnews ?

Disme
06-20-2011, 07:24 AM
Does anyone know what is the retention , speed , and connections used for xsnews ?
Speed: It maxes my 3,5 MB connection all the time
Retention: 400 to 500 days
Connections: 8

These are the ipv6-server adresses in case reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl (http://reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl/) doesn't work:
2001:67c:174:101::2
2001:67c:174:101::3
2001:67c:174:101::4
2001:67c:174:101::5

:cool:

klorox
06-20-2011, 10:07 PM
ive been using newsdemon for awhile now and have liked it - they have a current deal for 3 months for 21.00 that seems to be the cheapest around here:
http://www.newsdemon.com/3month-unlimited-access.php

Stabber
06-21-2011, 12:39 AM
Does anyone know what is the retention , speed , and connections used for xsnews ?
Speed: It maxes my 3,5 MB connection all the time
Retention: 400 to 500 days
Connections: 8

These are the ipv6-server adresses in case reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl (http://reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl/) doesn't work:
2001:67c:174:101::2
2001:67c:174:101::3
2001:67c:174:101::4
2001:67c:174:101::5

:cool:

Thanks for the info disme ;)

Does this server still work ?

news.ipv6.eweka.nl

and any info regarding speed and retention ?

Cabalo
06-21-2011, 01:38 AM
It's been down for a very long time.

bobbintb
06-26-2011, 08:41 PM
thanks. its actually working out pretty good.

Stabber
06-26-2011, 09:49 PM
binload works perfect so far , even better than the ipv6 trick . I hope they don't force payments anytime soon

Funkin'
06-28-2011, 06:05 AM
Retention: 400 to 500 days


This is a bit iffy though as I couldn't finish something that was 496 days old. So I would watch it once you get past the 400 day mark.

Disme
06-28-2011, 06:23 AM
Retention: 400 to 500 days


This is a bit iffy though as I couldn't finish something that was 496 days old. So I would watch it once you get past the 400 day mark.

That's because I don't use binload alone and haven't really been monitoring if it was the ipv6-servers, the freebin-servers or binload that have been responsable for the +400 posts.

I'll test it with something +400 and only the binload server.

Edit: You're right ... a file that's 399,5 days old download fine, one that is 404,5 days old fails.
I guess retention is 400 days.