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elteeb
02-08-2003, 07:26 PM
Hi,
looked through some of the posts on here re RIAA threatening people etc. Seen lists of IP's that you can download and block to try and stop music/film industry "watchdogs" from checking your files etc. How can these lists contain all IP's that these bodies use? How can anyone know of all the bodies that are checking our files? Once their IP has been found out can't they just change the IP they're using?!?!!??? Their's quite a few of them out their!

Just getting a little worried as Mediaforce contacted my ISP giving them my IP address, Kazaa user name etc and name of one of the films that I was sharing and have basically said...
1) Disable access to the individual who has engaged in the conduct described above; and
>2) Take appropriate action against the account holder under your Abuse Policy/Terms of Service Agreement.

So of course my ISP has then emailed me and threatened to shut down my account due to the terms and conditions of their Acceptable Use Policy!! :-(

Anyone got any helpful advice? A lot of the US companies cannot take action directly against people not in their country (so that's me covered their)... but the ISP's can shut accounts down and possibly take further action against us... this I do not want!

Of course I know I could stop using Kazaa... but this I would prefer not to do!!!!!!

Any advice etc would be good.



Cheers. :-)

gumbydancin
02-08-2003, 09:20 PM
There has been a lot of posts similar to this lately and it seems as if people have stopped responding. So my suggestion to use is to play around with the searh feature on this forum and you'll find what you need.

edit: spelling - my keyboard is screwed

TheMan1891
02-08-2003, 11:46 PM
I'm really sorry to hear that. I'm getting scared of the same thing happening to me. Where do you live anyway? Like what state.

elteeb
02-09-2003, 12:25 AM
Cheers gumbydancin,
(No state TheMan1891, I'm from the UK).

Will do a little more research and search the boards a bit more. Just so far had only seen people claiming that they cant do anything etc etc etc so far. (But obviousely they can do something... cut your line to the net!!! When their aren't many suppliers of broadband around that could get a bit of a pain).

If you fancy a laugh anyway... here's the letter :-)

Dear Mr xxxxxxxxxxx

The ntl Acceptable Use Policy Team are contacting you to advise you that we
are in receipt of a report that indicates that an ntl: Internet account has
been used to make available copyrighted material without the copyright
holders consent.

We have traced the account detailed in the report and have found it to be
Internet account [xxxxxxxx], which is registered to you.

The report indicates that the copyrighted material referred to is hosted on
your PC. For this reason, we have forwarded the report onto you (see below
or attachment). Should you have any queries regarding the report, you will
need to contact the complainant directly.

We would also like to draw your attention to clause 10 of our User Policy
that states that:
"Any images, photographs, articles, pages, designs, drawings, software,
music, information and other materials published on the Internet and the
Services are protected by copyright. Publishing material on the Internet and
on the Services does not mean it is available for anyone to copy. Unless the
owner of that copyright specifically states that you may copy the work, you
should assume that you cannot. It is an infringement of copyright to copy,
reproduce, adapt, translate, broadcast or perform copyright protected
material without permission, to make infringing copies available to the
public or otherwise to knowingly deal in infringing copies. The Services
must not be used, directly or indirectly, to transmit, publish, link to or
otherwise make available any confidential information or trade secrets of
any person or entity".

Any further breaches of our User Policy or Terms and Conditions may result
in further action being taken against your account.

N.B. - Should you wish to reply to ntl: via e-mail, please use the original
subject heading as the subject header of your response to the ntl abuse
team.


Yours Sincerely,






xxxxxxxxx
Acceptable Use Policy Team

ntl: Technology. Tamed.
http://www.ntlworld.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mediaforce - Copyright Infringement"
To: "NTL Abuse" <>
Sent: xxxxxxxxxx xx, 2003 x:xx PM
Subject: Case ID xxxxxxxx - Notice of Claimed Infringement


> xxxxxxxxxxxx xx, 2003
>
>
> NTL
>
> GB
>
>
>
> RE: Unauthorized Distribution of the Copyrighted Motion Picture Entitled
> About Schmidt
>
>
> Dear NTL Abuse:
>
> We are writing this letter on behalf of New Line Cinema Corporation, a
division of AOL Time Warner ("New Line").
>
> We have received information that an individual has utilized the
above-referenced IP address at the noted date and time to offer downloads of
copyrighted motion picture(s) through a "peer-to-peer" service, including
such title(s) as:
>
> About Schmidt
>
> The distribution of unauthorized copies of copyrighted motion pictures
constitutes copyright infringement under the Copyright Act, Title 17 United
States Code Section 106(3). This conduct may also violate the laws of other
countries, international law, and/or treaty obligations.
>
> Since you own this IP address, we request that you immediately do the
following:
>
> 1) Disable access to the individual who has engaged in the conduct
described above; and
> 2) Take appropriate action against the account holder under your Abuse
Policy/Terms of Service Agreement.
>
> On behalf of New Line, owner of the exclusive rights to the copyrighted
material at issue in this notice, we hereby state, that we have a good faith
belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not
authorized by New Line, its respective agents, or the law.
>
> Also, we hereby state, under penalty of perjury, under the laws of the
State of California and under the laws of the United States, that the
information in this notification is accurate and that we are authorized to
act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive rights being infringed as set
forth in this notification.
>
> Please contact us at the above-listed address or by replying to this email
should you have any questions. Kindly include the Case ID xxxxxxx, also
noted above, in the subject line of all future correspondence regarding this
matter.
>
> We appreciate your assistance and thank you for your cooperation in this
matter. Your prompt response is requested.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> xxxxxxxxxxx,
> Director of Enforcement
> MediaForce, Inc.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Infringement Detail:
> Infringing Work: About Schmidt
> Filename: About_Schmidt.cd1.xvid.sph.avi
> First Found: x xxxx 2003 03:10:20 EST (GMT -0500)
> Last Found: x xxx 2003 03:10:20 EST (GMT -0500)
> Filesize: 716,364k
> IP Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
> IP Port: 1214
> Network: KaZaA
> Protocol: FastTrack
> Username: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>

daveyjones
02-09-2003, 02:31 AM
Here&#39;s a bright idea for anyone who is having this problem , disconnect your computer that has the "offending" so called copyrighted file , and then get a computer (it can be old ) that you have never used for file sharing ,Then install what ever interent software you use to access the interent , and when your ISP dissconnects sue them for unfairly disconnecting you when you haven&#39;t done anything wrong . How you play it might get a little tricky , if they examine your hard drive they might ask why it looks so unused ECT , a possible response would be that you had to completly erase the hard drive refomat it ect bla bla bla . With no evidence (no smoking gun)the other side CANNOT win and you will at least get your lawyers fees back from them , maybe some personal abuse damages and the sastifaction of it all :)

StinkyFinger
02-09-2003, 03:38 AM
Them California MoFos think they own the whole freakin world&#33;
You should make a file the exact size noted of you punchin the munchkin and name it About Schmidt and remove the real one. Apparently they did not download anything from you judging from the times in your letter, so the only evidence they have is file name and size.
Also contact the compainant a couple times a day askin if so and so movie (make up names) is copyrighted cause you would like to share it and not get in trouble. Bug the crap out of them. If I lived near them in CA I would go and throw piles of dog poop at their office entrances.

TheMan1891
02-09-2003, 05:13 AM
I would throw my own shit at them&#33; I&#39;m scared shitless about the whole thing of losing my internet connection. I only have one provider in my area, and I share lots of movies and games and songs, over 2000 files, and I&#39;m scared shitless that those fucks are going to take it away. Sorry for the sortof worthless post.