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The Kiler
11-12-2003, 11:49 PM
What do you suggest is the best firewall?

james_bond_rulez
11-12-2003, 11:50 PM
zonealarm + peerguardian block list :lol:

TheFilePirater
11-12-2003, 11:51 PM
linksys router + zone alarm for a lil more protectiom

LTJBukem
11-12-2003, 11:58 PM
Best Firewall, Here we go again! Oh fecking yippee :huh:

iMartin
11-13-2003, 01:44 AM
Sygate...Sygate...Sygate! :lol:

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by [-Crono-]@13 November 2003 - 01:44
Sygate...Sygate...Sygate! :lol:
sygate whore.. :lol:

Jay
11-13-2003, 03:55 AM
zonealarm

Rip The Jacker
11-13-2003, 04:20 AM
Sygate Personal Firewall. :)

bob_the_alien
11-13-2003, 04:30 AM
The best would be a hardware firewall,
Second best a router.
And then lastly, software firewall, and I pick zonealarm for those
.

Supernatural
11-13-2003, 11:58 AM
Nothing compares to Sygate. ZoneAlarm is highly over rated.

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Supernatural@13 November 2003 - 11:58
Nothing compares to Sygate. ZoneAlarm is highly over rated.
and why is sygate any better than za? :unsure:

Supernatural
11-13-2003, 12:45 PM
Does Zone Alarm have anti-Mac spoofing? Anti-IP spoofing? OS Fingerprint maquerading? DoS detection? UPnP blocking? The list goes on...

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Supernatural@13 November 2003 - 12:45
Does Zone Alarm have anti-Mac spoofing? Anti-IP spoofing? OS Fingerprint maquerading? DoS detection? UPnP blocking? The list goes on...
would you mind explaining some of these to us? i didn't get half of it :P

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 01:06 PM
sygate sucks it doesn't even have a free version not to mention trial versions

what good is a firewall if ppl can't download it and install?

at least za has a free version for ppl to use and it means a lot to computer users

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/131103-za.jpg

i am sure za has all the major features that sygate has..

DarthInsinuate
11-13-2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@13 November 2003 - 13:06
sygate sucks it doesn't even have a free version not to mention trial versions
? :blink: ? Free Sygate (http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/14/3/14-3-10.shtml)

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 01:16 PM
no i meant their main site

www.sygate.com

was looking around, couldn't find the download section...

or is that not their site? lol :lol:

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 01:21 PM
http://soho.sygate.com/buy/download_buy.htm

ok i found a free sygate firewall but the functions are quite limited...

za has a free version too...at least ppl who doesn't know how to rip can still get it for free

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/comp...reeDownload.jsp (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp)

sharedholder
11-13-2003, 01:38 PM
Check my site ,on the freeware rocks i have a lot of free firewalls.

Supernatural
11-13-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@13 November 2003 - 08:06
...i am sure za has all the major features that sygate has..
Think again.

http://home.earthlink.net/~supernatural159/images/Screens/sygate_options.jpg
Enable anti-IP spoofing. By default, this option is disabled on the Personal Firewall. IP spoofing is a process used by hackers to hijack a communication session between two computers, which we will call Computers A and B. A hacker can send a data packet that causes Computer A to drop the communication. Then, pretending to be Computer A, the hacker can communicate with Computer B, thus hijacking a communication session and attempting to attack Computer B. Anti-IP spoofing foils most IP spoofing attempts by randomizing the sequence numbers of each communication packet, preventing a hacker from anticipating a packet and intercepting it. It is recommended that you enable this option along with Enable OS fingerprint masquerading.
Enable OS fingerprint masquerading. By default, this option is enabled on the Personal Firewall. This option keeps programs from detecting the operating system of a computer running the Personal Firewall software. When OS Fingerprint Masquerading is enabled, the Personal Firewall modifies TCP/IP packets so it is not possible to determine its operating system. It is recommended that you enable this option along with Enable anti-IP spoofing.
Enable DoS protection. By default, this option is enabled on the Personal Firewall. This option causes the Personal Firewall to check incoming traffic for known Denial of Service (DoS) attack patterns. DoS attacks are characterized by an explicit attempt by an intruder to prevent legitimate users of a service from using that service.
Block Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) Traffic By default, this option is enabled in the Personal Firewall. This option causes the Personal Firewall to look for and block UPnP traffic to counter the vulnerabilities that are introduced by this operating system feature: The first vulnerability could enable an attacker to gain complete control over an affected system, while the second vulnerability could enable an attacker to either prevent an affected system from providing useful service or utilize multiple users’ systems in a distributed denial of service attack against a single target. Users can disable this feature when using applications that require the UPnP protocol to operate.

Supernatural
11-13-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@13 November 2003 - 08:21
...ok i found a free sygate firewall but the functions are quite limited...

za has a free version too...at least ppl who doesn't know how to rip can still get it for free...
The free ZA is quite limited as well.

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 02:26 PM
does it prevent unauthorized outgoing email transmissions? (trojans or keylogger tried to call home)

the os masquerading is really the same as the za's "remove private header info" in privacy settings

enable ip-spoofing, i dont really see this as an outstanding feature as most reputable firewalls prevents unauthorized outgoing traffic. za "labels" programs much like kazaa reads sig for a file and encrypts all the "sig" with each program so trojans can't masquerade as a legit program requesting internet rights or servers rights.

enable dos attack: i think this is just plain bs, if you are really under dos attack there is NOTHING you can do except to get ur isp to filter out the unwanted traffic, firewalls can only block out packets but you are still blasted off the internet

block upnp, za has this too, my router has it, no big deal

doodle
11-13-2003, 02:27 PM
Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 (http://www.kerio.com) [freeware]. I'm not even going to explain, try it yourself and see why is it far better than all other free/commercial firewalls.

nanotek
11-13-2003, 06:10 PM
sygates the way to go :)

SciManAl
11-13-2003, 06:16 PM
ok, i am wandering since there seems tyo be alot of firewll techis here, is there a firewall that will make me completley anoynimous, because past that my hardware firewall does all the rest just fine...

DL.
11-13-2003, 06:20 PM
No.

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by SciManAl@13 November 2003 - 18:16
ok, i am wandering since there seems tyo be alot of firewll techis here, is there a firewall that will make me completley anoynimous, because past that my hardware firewall does all the rest just fine...
no..

3223
11-13-2003, 08:59 PM
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?

james_bond_rulez
11-13-2003, 09:20 PM
download zonealarm ;)

ZoneAlarm4 (http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/1043_zl/zapSetup_40_146_029.exe)

and then *cough* crack it *cough*

:lol:

abu_has_the_power
11-13-2003, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@12 November 2003 - 23:50
zonealarm + peerguardian block list :lol:
yep. safest. i use this. canadians think alike

The Kiler
11-13-2003, 10:44 PM
I have a double zone alarm firewall. Good enough to block 99% of attacks?

Linksys and Software firewall

Marius24
11-13-2003, 10:48 PM
they both do the same job, as long as you have one your ok :)

abu_has_the_power
11-13-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by The Kiler@13 November 2003 - 22:44
I have a double zone alarm firewall. Good enough to block 99% of attacks?

Linksys and Software firewall
u'll be pretty safe. the riaa's windows 3.0 and dos will have a hard time hacking through ur 128 bit encryption, but it might slow ur dls as well

trillscout
11-14-2003, 12:57 AM
Just curious but how come no one
mentioned Norton personal firewall as one
on the best???

james_bond_rulez
11-14-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by trillscout@14 November 2003 - 00:57
Just curious but how come no one
mentioned Norton personal firewall as one
on the best???
cuz it&#39;s not <_<

trillscout
11-14-2003, 01:19 AM
OK
But what makes norton worse than sygate and za

james_bond_rulez
11-14-2003, 01:40 AM
cuz norton is just trying to have a share of the firewall market, along with their "other products". in retrospect za is a dedicated company that licenses top quality firewall software.

norton is running business increasing like microsoft... <_<

Busyman
11-14-2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@14 November 2003 - 01:40
cuz norton is just trying to have a share of the firewall market, along with their "other products". in retrospect za is a dedicated company that licenses top quality firewall software.

norton is running business increasing like microsoft... <_<
Have you used Norton&#39;s firewall? Probably not.
Does anyone read PC Magazine?
They have Norton Personal Firewall AND Zone Alarm Pro as editor&#39;s choices. I&#39;ll believe them before I believe a mere handful of users on this forum because YOU haven&#39;t even used the product.

Oh and I would test either of these products, pick one then add your hardware firewall. (hardware firewalls are usually enough)

james_bond_rulez
11-14-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Busyman@14 November 2003 - 01:55
(hardware firewalls are usually enough)
apparently you dont know much about internet security... <_<

Busyman
11-14-2003, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+14 November 2003 - 02:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 14 November 2003 - 02:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@14 November 2003 - 01:55
(hardware firewalls are usually enough)
apparently you dont know much about internet security... <_< [/b][/quote]
Actually I do. To the average user a hardware firewall IS usually enough. I didn&#39;t say to only use that though. As I said, pick one top software firewall AND a hardware firewall.
You obviously don&#39;t know anything about Norton&#39;s firewall. Your&#39;re sitting there sprouting opinions about a piece of software you&#39;ve never used just because they&#39;re "just trying to have a share of the firewall market, along with their "other products".
They seem to have done a pretty good job.
Keep your uneducated want-to-know-it-all opinions to yourself.
Your ego won&#39;t shrink any less if you just STFU sometimes. ;)

james_bond_rulez
11-14-2003, 03:17 AM
oh wow if you run so low on words you can always flip open a dictionary, no need for stfu :P

anyways this topic is open for discussion i dont need to keep opinions to myself.

if you are so narrow minded about other ppl&#39;s opinions i suggest you turn off ur computer, go outside and yell "ooooosa" to strangers. Believe me, it&#39;ll do you some good ;)

Busyman
11-14-2003, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@14 November 2003 - 03:17
oh wow if you run so low on words you can always flip open a dictionary, no need for stfu :P

anyways this topic is open for discussion i dont need to keep opinions to myself.

if you are so narrow minded about other ppl&#39;s opinions i suggest you turn off ur computer, go outside and yell "ooooosa" to strangers. Believe me, it&#39;ll do you some good ;)
Uhhh.......no


It&#39;s your uneducated opinion because of marketing bullshit that I crap on. You remind of all folks that say Microsoft has harmed the public AFTER there was a case brought against them. Get off the bandwagon.
Test the product first smart guy........or else your "opinions" are good for nothing.
They are shit that doesn&#39;t even stink. No purpose. <_<

james_bond_rulez
11-14-2003, 04:19 AM
oh i have used norton, it&#39;s not any better than sygate or zonealarm.

it&#39;s all the same shit in different packages. However i am just trying to point out that zonealarm has been thoroghly tested by computer security experts and is ranked first on steve&#39;s website. and it&#39;s also what i recommand to ppl if they ask which firewall to use.

your attempt to bash my opinion was purely personal and unfounded. this forum would be better off without all the flaming and bashing and let the freedom of opinions flow.

uneducated opinion? i dont think so.

However if you wish to contine on this pointless exchange of flames and bashing so be it but you are wasting your time and my time.

muchspl2
11-14-2003, 04:28 AM
you can&#39;t import the bad ip list into norton without putting them in 1 at a time, that alone kills them for me
/.02

trillscout
11-14-2003, 05:37 AM
Thank you guys (james bond+busyman) both. That was a very informative
argu...um I mean discussion :D by the way is za compatiable with norton in any way
and where can I get a hardware firewall?

I ? norton&#39;s credibity after I found out I had a virus that AVG found but
Norton AV couldn&#39;t.

james_bond_rulez
11-14-2003, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by trillscout@14 November 2003 - 05:37
Thank you guys (james bond+busyman) both. That was a very informative
argu...um I mean discussion :D by the way is za compatiable with norton in any way
and where can I get a hardware firewall?

I ? norton&#39;s credibity after I found out I had a virus that AVG found but
Norton AV couldn&#39;t.
i am glad you pointed that out

i had norton corp antivirus installed however when i switched to trend micro i found server viruses/worms on my computer when norton wasn&#39;t able to detect prior.

never installed another norton antivirus again...

muchspl2
11-14-2003, 05:54 AM
I left out my utter contempt for norton av as this was pertaining to firewall, norton av sucks a phat one and your better off not run a av if you run norton, well not really, but too many norton drones in general
several times people I know have been compromised by virii and trojans using symatic products, don&#39;t believe the norton hype as far as firewall that works fine other than my original complaint about the bad ip list

nostalgia
11-14-2003, 07:40 AM
Norton is highly over rated cause of their slick GUI&#39;s and cause manufacturers deliver a Norton product if you buy their pc.
For myself I use ZA PRO and Sygate PRo5 in turns.
They both do their work good. Also both were splendid in the leaktest and portprobe (shields up) at http://www.grc.com
But nevertheless I also have a anit-virus, anti-trojan and spy-adware removers. Unfortunately there isn&#39;t a programm that combines it all with good results.

james_bond_rulez
11-14-2003, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by nostalgia@14 November 2003 - 07:40
Norton is highly over rated cause of their slick GUI&#39;s and cause manufacturers deliver a Norton product if you buy their pc.
For myself I use ZA PRO and Sygate PRo5 in turns.
They both do their work good. Also both were splendid in the leaktest and portprobe (shields up) at http://www.grc.com
But nevertheless I also have a anit-virus, anti-trojan and spy-adware removers. Unfortunately there isn&#39;t a programm that combines it all with good results.
nicely summed up :lol:

h121589
11-14-2003, 11:24 PM
wut r firewalls and wut do firewalls do

muchspl2
11-14-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by h121589@15 November 2003 - 00:24
wut r firewalls and wut do firewalls do
http://members.cox.net/dodger1954/slap.gif

you need one almost as much as a constant running AV

The Kiler
11-15-2003, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by h121589@14 November 2003 - 18:24
wut r firewalls and wut do firewalls do
A firewall makes it HARDER for a hacker to compromise your computer.

3223
11-15-2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by muchspl2@14 November 2003 - 05:54
I left out my utter contempt for norton av as this was pertaining to firewall, norton av sucks a phat one and your better off not run a av if you run norton, well not really, but too many norton drones in general
several times people I know have been compromised by virii and trojans using symatic products, don&#39;t believe the norton hype as far as firewall that works fine other than my original complaint about the bad ip list
i cant understand what ur tryin to say&#33;&#33; plz explain better (im very very tired&#33;)

3223
11-15-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by 3223@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?
any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<

3223
11-15-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by 3223+15 November 2003 - 00:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3223 @ 15 November 2003 - 00:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-3223@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?
any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_< [/b][/quote]
i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails&#33; <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot&#33;

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall&#33;

3223
11-15-2003, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by 3223+15 November 2003 - 18:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3223 @ 15 November 2003 - 18:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 00:51
<!--QuoteBegin-3223@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?
any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<
i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails&#33; <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot&#33;

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall&#33; [/b][/quote]
i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email&#33; SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE&#33;

Mik3ll
11-15-2003, 09:54 PM
Right now, I use ZA plus, I dont like pro. But I have a feeling inside me that wants me to change to Sygate.

I think I will test it out, which should I get? The free version or pro?

Mik3ll
11-15-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by 3223+15 November 2003 - 19:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3223 @ 15 November 2003 - 19:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 18:32

Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 00:51
<!--QuoteBegin-3223@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?
any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<
i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails&#33; <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot&#33;

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall&#33;
i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email&#33; SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE&#33; [/b][/quote]
I say uninstall norton, and install Sygate. And it doesnt depend on how it looks, its how good it is.

james_bond_rulez
11-15-2003, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Mik3ll@15 November 2003 - 21:54
Right now, I use ZA plus, I dont like pro. But I have a feeling inside me that wants me to change to Sygate.

I think I will test it out, which should I get? The free version or pro?
always *always* get the pro ;)

Supernatural
11-16-2003, 12:56 AM
Yup... Pro all the way. Not to take anything away from the home version, because it&#39;s also great.

3223
11-16-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Mik3ll+15 November 2003 - 21:58--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mik3ll @ 15 November 2003 - 21:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 19:42

Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 18:32

Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 00:51
<!--QuoteBegin-3223@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?
any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<
i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails&#33; <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot&#33;

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall&#33;
i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email&#33; SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE&#33;
I say uninstall norton, and install Sygate. And it doesnt depend on how it looks, its how good it is. [/b][/quote]
i like it cause it has anti ad and spam programs built in. it a good program i just can chat on aol instant messanger, check email with outlook express, i fixed the internet settings, also Sharaza wont connect&#33;&#33; any1 that has Norton Internet Security know how to change my settings so that all my programs will work?

Mik3ll
11-16-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by 3223+16 November 2003 - 01:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3223 @ 16 November 2003 - 01:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Mik3ll@15 November 2003 - 21:58

Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 19:42

Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 18:32

Originally posted by 3223@15 November 2003 - 00:51
<!--QuoteBegin-3223@13 November 2003 - 20:59
i downloaded sygate and nortons firewall. which one should i install and which should i delete? or should i install both?
any1 gonna answer my anytime soon?? <_<
i downloaded nortons and it lokks alot better than sygate but the problem is it wont let me gon on the internet or check my emails&#33; <_< any1 know what i should do to fix this (change settings, etc.). thanks alot&#33;

ps im on the net right now cause i disabled the firwall&#33;
i found out how to change settings to go on the internet but i still cant check my email&#33; SOME PLZ HELP MEEEEEEEE&#33;
I say uninstall norton, and install Sygate. And it doesnt depend on how it looks, its how good it is.
i like it cause it has anti ad and spam programs built in. it a good program i just can chat on aol instant messanger, check email with outlook express, i fixed the internet settings, also Sharaza wont connect&#33;&#33; any1 that has Norton Internet Security know how to change my settings so that all my programs will work? [/b][/quote]
Make a new thread for this, more people would then know you have the problem.

muchspl2
11-16-2003, 01:35 AM
after all that has been said, you still want norton :o

your choice I guess <_<

JohnD
11-16-2003, 01:46 AM
How can something so small as these other firewall be better than Norton firewall, which is so big in size?
Is there anything that Nortion Firewall can do in terms of firewall that these other smaller firewalls cannot do?
Is there anything that these other smaller firewalls can do that Norton firewall cannot do?
Can I run both Nortong firewall and Sygate or Norton and Zonealarm at the same time to test and see what i like?
I tried Norton Firewall 2003 and it blocked so much that I had so many problems that I went back to Norton Firewall 2002. I had difficulty just getting on the internet, staying on the internet, visiting certain websites, downloading and sharing fiile--Norton 2003 headache.
My other question is, what is the best antivirus program in terms of protection?

Mik3ll
11-16-2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by JohnD@16 November 2003 - 01:46
How can something so small as these other firewall be better than Norton firewall, which is so big in size?
Is there anything that Nortion Firewall can do in terms of firewall that these other smaller firewalls cannot do?
Is there anything that these other smaller firewalls can do that Norton firewall cannot do?
Can I run both Nortong firewall and Sygate or Norton and Zonealarm at the same time to test and see what i like?
I tried Norton Firewall 2003 and it blocked so much that I had so many problems that I went back to Norton Firewall 2002. I had difficulty just getting on the internet, staying on the internet, visiting certain websites, downloading and sharing fiile--Norton 2003 headache.
My other question is, what is the best antivirus program in terms of protection?
I wouldn&#39;t run 2 firewalls at once, it can freeze your computer.

Take a look at this tread and it explains different antiviruses somewhere in the thread http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=56265

3223
11-16-2003, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by 3223+15 November 2003 - 00:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3223 &#064; 15 November 2003 - 00:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@14 November 2003 - 05:54
I left out my utter contempt for norton av as this was pertaining to firewall, norton av sucks a phat one and your better off not run a av if you run norton, well not really, but too many norton drones in general
several times people I know have been compromised by virii and trojans using symatic products, don&#39;t believe the norton hype as far as firewall that works fine other than my original complaint about the bad ip list
i cant understand what ur tryin to say&#33;&#33; plz explain better (im very very tired&#33;) [/b][/quote]
@muchspl2 did u read my post? PLZ EXPLAIN UR MOST BETER&#33;

also i have sygate and got norton firewall just to try it out. its good except for my complaint.

Mik3ll
11-16-2003, 03:53 AM
Well, I tried Sygate Pro, but I didnt like it, I dont know why though.

Poolplayer34
11-16-2003, 03:54 AM
Zone Alarm is the best by FAR IMO

Infested Cats
11-16-2003, 06:51 AM
http://grc.com/lt/scoreboard.htm

Busyman
11-16-2003, 08:31 AM
I like ZA Pro first, then Norton.
Sygate is a FAR third.
ZA Pro is the best and I&#39;ve tried all 3.

james_bond_rulez
11-16-2003, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Busyman@16 November 2003 - 08:31
I like ZA Pro first, then Norton.
Sygate is a FAR third.
ZA Pro is the best and I&#39;ve tried all 3.
yeah now you say that *cough* *cough* ;)

james_bond_rulez
11-16-2003, 10:51 AM
yay 1000 posts&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol:

3223
11-16-2003, 02:44 PM
im gonna try zone alarm pro for myself. ive used sygate and norton. now ZA turn.

Busyman
11-16-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+16 November 2003 - 10:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez &#064; 16 November 2003 - 10:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@16 November 2003 - 08:31
I like ZA Pro first, then Norton.
Sygate is a FAR third.
ZA Pro is the best and I&#39;ve tried all 3.
yeah now you say that *cough* *cough* ;) [/b][/quote]
So what&#33;&#33;
I never said that Norton was my choice firewall. I said that it is a good firewall because I HAVE used it. READ. You sir are an idiot.
And that&#39;s based on having read your posts. ;)


yay 1000 posts&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

Furthermore........WHO CARES&#33;&#33;&#33; <_<
Go get a life. Do not pass go, do not collect &#036;200. :lol:

3223
11-19-2003, 10:21 PM
does any1 have a crack for ZA 4.5 PRO? if u do plz PM it 2 me&#33; THANKS&#33;&#33;

muchspl2
11-19-2003, 10:36 PM
there is no crack, goto freeserials.(0m
get a serial # for it

3223
11-19-2003, 10:57 PM
i went to the ZA site i think i have 2 pay before i can download ZA Pro 4.5&#33; if so then whats the point of a serial? is it only possible 2 get the basic version or what? plz help ASAP&#33;

LTJBukem
11-19-2003, 11:23 PM
Zonealarm 4.5.530 has just came out. I know this because i have a legal version of ZA Pro and i got a dialogue today prompting me to update. Your best bet is to download the free version, then get a key to unlock the Pro features (you will have to wait a little while). You will not be able to crack registration which is needed for auto updates, as you don&#39;t have an account on Zone Labs server.

My opinion is that since people have access to all this free software, they spend far too much time chopping and changing products. Norton, Zone Alarm, Sygate, whatever. Choose one then be happy with it, they are all great products. Switching all the time just messes up your system, then you find you have problems; how did this happen you ask&#33;&#33; What makes you think that hackers are going to target you anyway? If they did then no software firewall will stop a profficient hacker, it will however block all the scripts, port scans and internet &#39;noise&#39;.

Same for AV&#39;s, Norton does just fine, AVG great, nod32 great if you can crack it. The reason most people report infection while using norton, is probably because most people are using Norton. You yourself must adopt common sense practices to avoid infecting your system. Theres a pinned topic on that subject.

:)

3223
11-20-2003, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by LTJBukem@19 November 2003 - 23:23
Zonealarm 4.5.530 has just came out. I know this because i have a legal version of ZA Pro and i got a dialogue today prompting me to update. Your best bet is to download the free version, then get a key to unlock the Pro features (you will have to wait a little while). You will not be able to crack registration which is needed for auto updates, as you don&#39;t have an account on Zone Labs server.

My opinion is that since people have access to all this free software, they spend far too much time chopping and changing products. Norton, Zone Alarm, Sygate, whatever. Choose one then be happy with it, they are all great products. Switching all the time just messes up your system, then you find you have problems; how did this happen you ask&#33;&#33; What makes you think that hackers are going to target you anyway? If they did then no software firewall will stop a profficient hacker, it will however block all the scripts, port scans and internet &#39;noise&#39;.

Same for AV&#39;s, Norton does just fine, AVG great, nod32 great if you can crack it. The reason most people report infection while using norton, is probably because most people are using Norton. You yourself must adopt common sense practices to avoid infecting your system. Theres a pinned topic on that subject.

:)
i found the 30 day trial for 4.5.530 and (racked it. thanks. i like ZA more than my sygate. should i delete sygate or just delete it?

muchspl2
11-20-2003, 01:18 AM
do you ask to goto the bathroom?

if you like za, keep it, if you don&#39;t, get rid of it
its already been stated not to run 2 firewalls at once

boyzeee
11-20-2003, 01:34 AM
:D now the heat seems to died down on this thread :o i will stick my nib in the ink ;) i use norton av and firewall 2003 and imo they do a fine job :o ive never been hacked or got a virus and they integrate into systemworks which makes things nice n simple. yes i know they are a bit of a resource hog :rolleyes: but that isnt an issue for me and its not so much that you would really notice anyway ;)

Ninjastyle
12-04-2003, 10:20 PM
Sygate!

Spider_dude
12-04-2003, 10:32 PM
kerio.

MUSLEMAN
12-04-2003, 10:45 PM
sygate pro ofcourse

abu_has_the_power
12-04-2003, 10:54 PM
nothing can beat zonealarm pro or sygate pro with a encrypted router.