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vivitron 15
11-13-2003, 03:13 PM
ive been using one from lamseys site for a couple of days (download express maybe?) and its ok, the only prob is that i am downloading at fast speed (800KBytes/sec) onto a relatively poor PC. i guess this is making the program a little unstable, and it has crashed a couple of times, and doesnt really like me queueing stuff up in download manager.

does anyone else have any ideas of stuff i can use?


id prefer freeware - it only seems right to dl linux with free stuff :D

cwctv
11-13-2003, 03:54 PM
Most people use FlashGet now you can get a hit here.

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=75824

Dapadipz
11-13-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by cwctv@13 November 2003 - 15:54
Most people use FlashGet now you can get a hit here.

http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=75824
Ditto - Its What I Use Nowadays - Great Program


If You Want A FREE One Then Try FreshDownload - Thats Pretty Good
Fresh Devices (http://www.freshdevices.com)

Illuminati
11-13-2003, 04:33 PM
Easily FlashGet

Get a keygen or a serial before installing it though - FlashGet Free version is supported by adware, but by putting a valid serial i during installation the adware (AFAIK) never touches your system :D

Johnny_B
11-13-2003, 04:55 PM
FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com) all the way! :D

ZaZu
11-13-2003, 05:03 PM
Stardownloader (http://www.stardownloader.com/) is free and has no ad-ware/spy-ware ;)

Neo 721
11-13-2003, 05:40 PM
DAP is prettty good if put it into maxinum acelaration.

sharedholder
11-13-2003, 06:41 PM
FlashGet,(during the installation chose shareware,and doesn't install ad-aware)

DL.
11-13-2003, 06:58 PM
Looks like flashget is out of business. All links are dead or have notices on them.

I don't like how it restarts every time I back click in IE or restarts every time I copy to clip board. Even with that option unchecked. Many bugs I think.
I see complaints of file corrution with multipart downloads as well. I gave up after several hours trying to grab Photoshop CS. Faster to use emule.

Johnny_B
11-13-2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by DL.@13 November 2003 - 18:58
Looks like flashget is out of business. All links are dead or have notices on them.

I don't like how it restarts every time I back click in IE or restarts every time I copy to clip board. Even with that option unchecked. Many bugs I think.
I see complaints of file corrution with multipart downloads as well. I gave up after several hours trying to grab Photoshop CS. Faster to use emule.
What the hell are you talking about? Out of business? And what notices are you talking about? :blink:
FlashGet website (http://www.flashget.com/)
Download FlashGet (http://www.flashget.com/download.htm)

It doesn't restart when you copy to clipboard and I have never had a corrupted download with it.

And how the hell can you compare FlashGet with eMule? One is a download manager and the other is a P2P application! :blink:

vivitron 15
11-13-2003, 07:40 PM
flashget.com is up, so got v1.4 and a serial...thanks to a stalavis ta.com
will check it out next time..cheers guys

DL.
11-13-2003, 08:02 PM
They both download things don't they? I find emule does it better. Mind you I do avoid those crappy multipart files in favour of ISO's.

Johnny_B
11-13-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by DL.@13 November 2003 - 20:02
They both download things don't they? I find emule does it better. Mind you I do avoid those crappy multipart files in favour of ISO's.
You compare eMule with Kazaa, Shareaza, BitTorrent, Piolet, WinMX, eDonkey, Overnet, etc. These are peer-to-peer applications.
You compare FlashGet with GetRight, Download Accelerator Plus, NetPumper, NetAnts, GoZilla, etc. These are download managers.

Can you compare a car with a plane? They both get you to places.

And what the hell do you mean by multipart files? Care to explain that a little better? <_<

vivitron 15
11-13-2003, 08:57 PM
k, firstly, why would i need to use a p2p app to dl linux? its free, and i can get it a damn sight quicker from the dedicated ftps than i can from any p2p app.

secondly, you really cant compare the two ideas...i want stg to dl from websites and ftp servers, not from other users.

Thanks for the advice anyway, but i really need one of these progs.

edit: and btw: i am dling isos

zapjb
11-13-2003, 09:38 PM
FlashGet IF you want warez.

DL.
11-13-2003, 11:57 PM
This is the common result I found in My first search for flashget
http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3000-2071-10039766.html

I did get it from a russian mirror eventualy.

Ummmm multipart means just that. ;) Multi parts. All hacked up with winrar or whatever so you need something like 20 parts to reassemble the program. A convenience meant for dial up I assume but a pain in the ass for myself.

You may compare whatever you like ;) If your results with emule are that poor, then maybe you beter stick to your downloaders. I have no problem getting what I need when I need it using emule and a few ftp tools.

I have reviewed flashget and found it didn&#39;t suit my needs. If you feel total alegiance to it, fine&#33; No one&#39;s stopping you. Push it all you want. But try to be adult about it if you can :)

Johnny_B
11-14-2003, 01:03 AM
@DL.

I begin to think that you don&#39;t have the slightest clue of what you&#39;re talking about.

Multipart files, as you call them, are not "hacked" with WinRAR. :lol:
And no, they don&#39;t have nothing to do with dial-up users, although it&#39;s handy for them. :P

Do you actually know where most of the files you download, come from?
Release groups distribute their files mainly through newsgroups. The maximum size a file can have when posted in a newsgroup is 15 MB.

Now tell me, how in the world can a CD image of a game which is 700 MB big (or more), be posted in a newsgroup that only allows files up to 15 MB in size? :blink:
I&#39;m sure that if it depended on you it would never be released&#33;

This is why WinRAR is used. You can compress and split any archive in volumes, so that each volume is exactly 15 MB.

People get these files from newsgroups and then they&#39;re spread to IRC and the p2p community.
The files you download with p2p applications are the files already extracted from the original release. ;)

But I still don&#39;t know what all this has to do with FlashGet.
FlashGet is a download manager. You download from web servers not from other people like p2p. It takes the most out of your bandwidth so that your files are downloaded quicker. It allows you to resume broken downloads.
FlashGet doesn&#39;t split files if that&#39;s what&#39;s bugging you. When your download is complete you will see just one file. :D

riesdepies
11-14-2003, 01:04 AM
Try Net Transport (http://lycos26486.l78.lycos.com.cn/default.htm).

It&#39;s very similar to Flashget but it&#39;s also able to
download streaming media and it&#39;s freeware.

http://lycos26486.l78.lycos.com.cn/images/MainFrame_thumb.gif

ibelledthecat
11-14-2003, 01:34 AM
Try star downloader
u will probably get it at http://www.download.com

DL.
11-14-2003, 02:07 AM
Johnny_B, you are a total twat&#33;

News groups .. right.... ever wondered where they get the files from?

When you&#39;re all growed up, pay us a visit maybe

http://forum.[illegal link]/

When you get to 1000 quality posts you get to see and share the real goods.

slammy_dunken
11-14-2003, 05:52 AM
Actually, Johnny_B is right. The files from release groups were first released on newsgroups as multiple rars or something similar to that. Then the files would usually spread to IRC, P2P technologies, and websites. But really, what does this have to do with download managers? ;)

DL.
11-14-2003, 07:20 AM
Note the year in this image.

http://www.mdcc.edu/mdcc/odyssey/calendar/images/2003.gif

It&#39;s not 1998 anymore. ;)

If you want something now, it&#39;s private ftp first, IRC for the linux crowd, maybe emule, then bittorrent, shareza for the windows crowd.

And it has to do with download managers.
I know many groups that release on ftp, then on emule because it is a good download manager for ISO&#39;s. MedISO for example. All the medical students know about this now. (You need some neurosurgery or anatomy CD&#39;s?)

Maybe some do still do newsgroups for habit or sentimental reasons.

I don&#39;t want some chopped up rip, I want the real thing. We aren&#39;t playing with 4 gig hard drives and slow dialup anymore. For some maybe they need it but not most.

Illuminati
11-14-2003, 08:58 AM
eMule and FlashGet are different program types, let alone different programs.

eMule is a P2P program which is built specifically to search for, download and upload on the eDonkey network.

FlashGet is a download manager used for downloads on the Internet, where attempts to download stuff (e.g. mods for Half Life) are automatically managed by FG. The main web site is www.flashget.com (http://www.flashget.com).

FlashGet may work with downloading off newsgroups - I personally haven&#39;t tried d/ling off them yet. But eMule sure as hell cannot be used to download off them.

BTW One of the main reasons for splitting up files in the old days was so that they could be stored on floppy disk (when CD-Burning wasn&#39;t cheap ;)) hence why you see a lot of splits being 1.4MB.

Illuminati
11-14-2003, 09:05 AM
Ummmm multipart means just that. Multi parts. All hacked up with winrar or whatever so you need something like 20 parts to reassemble the program. A convenience meant for dial up I assume but a pain in the ass for myself.

Yep - They&#39;re split with WinRAR and compressed. Of course with WinRAR, all you need to do is put them all in the same directory and extract the files the first part - The rest of the splits also follows automatically :D


People get these files from newsgroups and then they&#39;re spread to IRC and the p2p community.

He&#39;s right - Many of the release groups favour releasing them either on IRC or on newsgroups (or both), if only because people know then where to go to get the downloads instead of searching for them. Once quite a few filesharers have the releases, they make their way onto the P2P networks :D


But personally, I&#39;d love to see how you managed to get eMule to manage ALL of the downloads you&#39;d find on web pages? :blink: because AFAIK, that was Vivitron&#39;s point instead of a P2P program.

camille
11-14-2003, 09:37 AM
For me DAP 5.3.9.8 is the best and interface is user friendly.

zapjb
11-14-2003, 11:20 AM
My point is, If you want warez off of warez sites. Get FlashGet or else you&#39;re gonna get shutout on quite a few warez sites.

vivitron 15
11-14-2003, 11:52 AM
STOP

now, if you want to discuss the relative merits of using IRC/Newsgroups to dl from release groups, then please start a thread on it. <_<

If you want to talk about Emule, then please start a thread on it.

If you want to suggest a program to manage FREE DOWNLOADS from websites-linux, not warez then please post here.

Ive got FlashGet, and gonna try early next week, but im still open to suggestions; would prefer to use a freeware one, but only gonna try one at a time.

Thanks to all who have contributed to solving my problem :)

Lamsey
11-14-2003, 11:58 AM
Vivitron - you said that Download Express downloaded stuff far too quickly for your machine to cope with. Simply move the speed slider down a notch or two, that will work and you won&#39;t need to use any other tool.



@DL. - omg you are teh 1337. I want to be a 1337 r0x0r like you, no really.

Icebound
11-14-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by zapjb@14 November 2003 - 05:20
My point is, If you want warez off of warez sites. Get FlashGet or else you&#39;re gonna get shutout on quite a few warez sites.
... the sole reason i use flashget

and the only way d/ling full cd images is better than archives is if someone
doesn&#39;t have winrar or another archiver for some freakish reason

i would much rather d/l several archived iso&#39;s than the full images&#33;

flashget only works thru http&#39;s and ftp&#39;s, altho i use wsftp pro 8.2 for my ftp needs.
it has nothing to do with emule or any other app

he&#39;s right about newsgroups tho, they aren&#39;t as used as much as they used to. ftp&#39;s r where u can get something before it is even released by a group. and as for groups, many groups in fact, r using bit torrent to release stuff instead of irc. and about the 15MB thing, i&#39;ve d/led a few files over 50MB thru newsgroups but these were the biggest. the main thing with archived files is the ability to fix a corrupt d/l without having to d/l the whole thing again -- even full cd images can become corrupt during the d/l. that, and the fact that it is usually around 2/3 the size of the full image.

but before all this confusion started there was a question, and my answer is flashget. it is by far the most mainstream and a serial is just a click away

*Edit
btw, is that the asta forum ur trying to link to? u can thank me for the illegal link. paul did that to me a long time ago. the best place for ftp and http downloads. however, i do think andr[]net is on top.

vivitron 15
11-14-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Lamsey@14 November 2003 - 11:58
Vivitron - you said that Download Express downloaded stuff far too quickly for your machine to cope with. Simply move the speed slider down a notch or two, that will work and you won&#39;t need to use any other tool.

yeah, i did that mate. i set the "medium" to 3 threads, max 700 000bytes/sec, and it kinda worked; though it seemed unstable. it used 100%CPU and made it impossible to do anything else. I was in the uni library doin it, and i actually ended up working whilst it was going :huh: with paper and everything&#33; :huh:

but anyhow, im gonna try flashget and some of these others and see if they are any more stable, or if in fact it is just cos my laptop is only a 1Gig celeron.

thanks again for the input :)

DL.
11-15-2003, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Illuminati+14 November 2003 - 09:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati @ 14 November 2003 - 09:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I&#39;d love to see how you managed to get eMule to manage ALL of the downloads you&#39;d find on web pages? :blink: because AFAIK, that was Vivitron&#39;s point instead of a P2P program. [/b]
Read the first post again carefully. You&#39;ve all missed the plot with johnboy&#39;s bullshit whining distracting you.

<!--QuoteBegin-vivitron 15
does anyone else have any ideas of stuff i can use?


id prefer freeware - it only seems right to dl linux with free stuff :D
[/quote]

All linux ISO&#39;s are released on emule and the eror correction almost guarantees a good final result. Almost no need need fpr the md5.

You&#39;re all so fuckin important that you can&#39;t even follow the plot anymore. Get your nose out of each others ass&#39;s and think a bit more. <_<

slammy_dunken
11-15-2003, 06:39 PM
You sure use a &#39;unique&#39; way to make firends on this board.

I think YOU should look over the post carefully, because from what I can see, YOU started talking about eMule when we were talking about download managers. Then you go on yabbering about how great eMule is when all vivitron 15 wanted was a download manager. Now you go on acting egocentric thinking that you&#39;re right and everyone&#39;s wrong. Lose the attitude dude, cause this board doesn&#39;t cope with that. Go to Neopets if you want to keep acting like that.

DL.
11-15-2003, 06:57 PM
:lol: Attitude lol

You small fools have enough attitude to ruin any site all by your selves.

I said it earlier but here it is nice and simple for you-

Follow the plot or fuck off

I don&#39;t need needy friends like you.

I made my suggestion for grabbing what he asked for. A few small minded individuals challenged and I answered. If you have a problem following that, seek professional help. You won&#39;t get it here, all you&#39;re doing is avoiding reality.

Good luck in your quest for friends though :lol:

slammy_dunken
11-15-2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by DL.@15 November 2003 - 12:57
You small fools have enough attitude to ruin any site all by your selves.
So what makes you think you&#39;re bigger than us?


I made my suggestion for grabbing what he asked for.
I think you should get thicker glasses Elroy. NOWHERE in ANY of your posts in this thread does it say that you helped him find a DOWNLOAD MANAGER (The keywords are the ones in the largest font, so that your eyes can see them). All you did was suggest eMule, eMule, and eMule. How is that a download manager?


all you&#39;re doing is avoiding reality.
So what about your posts? Half your posts are full of stuff that you only dream about. Lets talk about newsgroups. Unless you&#39;ve been in a coma for the last 5 years, release groups still release their stuff on newsgroups first. It&#39;s been proven throughout the posts on this thread, so stop whining.


Good luck in your quest for friends though
I already took mine WAY before you learned how to cry.

Lamsey
11-15-2003, 08:08 PM
OK, usual warning, any more flames and the thread gets closed. And that wouldn&#39;t be good for poor Vivitron.

DL., lose the attitude problem please.

DL.
11-15-2003, 08:12 PM
Here you go. Last time junior.


id prefer freeware - it only seems right to dl linux with free stuff

And here&#39;s a link you should take a look at.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=reading+comp...le+Search&meta= (http://www.google.ca/search?q=reading+comprehension+help&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)

And this one.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8...le+Search&meta= (http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=coping+with+mental+deficiency&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)

Take your time, No one expects you to improve overnight.

@ Lamesy , There&#39;s nothing wrong with my attitude. Should I post about shoving my fingers up my ass to check for remaining shit instead? That seems to be an acceptable theme. <_<

slammy_dunken
11-15-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by DL.@15 November 2003 - 14:12

id prefer freeware - it only seems right to dl linux with free stuff
Linux, as in, Open Source, as in, available for free on FTPs.
</rant>

Anyways, back on topic: I compared FlashGet with DAP, and I think that DAP is better because the interface seems like it&#39;s more user-friendly. ;)

Lamsey
11-15-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by DL.@15 November 2003 - 20:12
(paraphrase): Flame flameity flame flame look at me, I am teh 1337, I know everything and you&#39;re all wrong.
Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally disabled.


@ Lamesy , There&#39;s nothing wrong with my attitude. Should I post about shoving my fingers up my ass to check for remaining shit instead? That seems to be an acceptable theme. <_<
You know, accusing someone of being mentally ill becuase they don&#39;t agree with you: Is extremely offensive to those who are mentally disabled and their relations
Shows a certain amount of insecurity on the part of the accuser
Shows an appallingly crass and tactless attitude to your fellow man
Gets this thread closed.

Swearing at and abusing people who don&#39;t agree with you is completely unacceptable and is in direct contravention of the board rules, as well you know. If you want to post about shoving your fingers up your ass, do it in the lounge. It&#39;s certainly not suitable here.


I apologise, Vivitron 15, you&#39;ll need to start a new thread if you want to continue this discussion.