Jail Time For Movie Swappers

[ZaZu]

A forthcoming copyright bill backed by key U.S. senators would place file swappers in prison for up to three years if they have a copy of even one prerelease movie in their shared folders.

In addition to the prison term, the Artists' Rights and Theft Prevention Act would punish making such movies available on a public "computer network" as a federal felony with a fine of up to $250,000. It would not require that any copyright infringement actually take place.

Hollywood studios have fretted for years about Internet distribution of prerelease movies, meaning films that have not appeared on DVD or in theaters. Footage of "Star Wars: Episode II," "Tomb Raider" and "The Hulk," has reportedly surfaced on peer-to-peer networks before their commercial distribution. In September, the major studios responded by halting their normal practice of sending DVD "screeners" to Academy Award judges.

A copy of the bill seen by CNET News.com, marked "Discussion Draft," represents one of the fiercest attacks yet on peer-to-peer networks from copyright holders' allies on Capitol Hill.

The threat of a three-year prison term kicks in when anyone makes an illicit copy of a movie "available on a computer network accessible to members of the public," when the film "was intended for commercial distribution but had not been so distributed at the time." Once the film is commercially distributed, the felony penalties appear to no longer apply.

Source (http://news.com.com/2100-1026_3-5106684.html)

[imnotanaddict]

:unsure: ouch! I'm glad I always uphold the LAW! :rolleyes:

[james_bond_rulez]

great news!! it's about time somebody put all these losers on kazaa to jail

less lamers on fasttrack network :lol:

[Cotton]

Glad i dont live in the US.

[SaYiaN]

james_bond_rulez Posted on 14 November 2003 - 05:10
  great news!! it's about time somebody put all these losers on kazaa to jail

less lamers on fasttrack network 


wtf , how can u call them losers, they be sharing movies that are not even release.
man thats tru Sharing rit there.

[james_bond_rulez]

well if they were smart, which i am pretty sure they are not

they would've release them in irc channels, newsgroups, bittorrent, and NOT fasttrack network. if you want movies that doesn't play, music that screeches, games that dont play, apps that dont work then sure go ahead use kazaa

:lol:

[RealitY]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@13 November 2003 - 22:05
well if they were smart, which i am pretty sure they are not they would've release them in irc channels, newsgroups, bittorrent, and NOT fasttrack network.
Mostly true with the exception of Bittorent I imagine...

[imnotanaddict]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@14 November 2003 - 06:05
well if they were smart, which i am pretty sure they are not

they would've release them in irc channels, newsgroups, bittorrent, and NOT fasttrack network. if you want movies that doesn't play, music that screeches, games that dont play, apps that dont work then sure go ahead use kazaa

:lol:

A forthcoming copyright bill backed by key U.S. senators would place file swappers in prison for up to three years if they have a copy of even one prerelease movie in their shared folders.

Apparently their not centering on who released them but anyone that is even in possession of copies of prereleases. You mean to tell me youve never had a said file in your possession?

[abu_has_the_power]

wait, doesn't this also mean persecution against bt users?
and r they gonna jail u if u dl movies?

[imnotanaddict]

Originally posted by ZaZu@14 November 2003 - 05:02


A forthcoming copyright bill backed by key U.S. senators would place file swappers in prison for up to three years if they have a copy of even one prerelease movie in their shared folders.



abu_has_the_power said:

wait, doesn't this also mean persecution against bt users?
and r they gonna jail u if u dl movies?

they can up to 3 years, according to the article.

james_bond_rulez said:

great news!! it's about time somebody put all these losers on kazaa to jail

less lamers on fasttrack network

And what does this have to do with just kazaa? If you have the file and are caught with it befor release, your goin down.

[james_bond_rulez]

how about i live in Canada and you can come over here and kiss my canadian ass?

Americans have no juristictions here, keep ur own shit in ur own home!!

[imnotanaddict]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@14 November 2003 - 07:14
how about i live in Canada and you can come over here and kiss my canadian ass?

Americans have no juristictions here, keep ur own shit in ur own home!!
:lol: A Canadian DICKHEAD. Well I wont hold that against Canada.
But if were going to get technical, and Im not saying it would ever happen but the article did say its a felony, ever heard of extradition. :D

[Supernatural]

He's right. Canada would hand you over on a silver platter. Canada's our bitch.

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by imnotanaddict+14 November 2003 - 07:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (imnotanaddict @ 14 November 2003 - 07:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@14 November 2003 - 07:14
how about i live in Canada and you can come over here and kiss my canadian ass?

Americans have no juristictions here, keep ur own shit in ur own home&#33;&#33;
:lol: A Canadian DICKHEAD. Well I wont hold that against Canada.
But if were going to get technical, and Im not saying it would ever happen but the article did say its a felony, ever heard of extradition. :D [/b][/quote]
Extradition is only applicable if the crime is also illegal in the country your being extradited from.

In other words...the USA can go screw itself, Canada wont extradite for it :P

[Supernatural]

Canada doesn&#39;t have copyright laws?

[globalterminator]

Originally posted by Supernatural@14 November 2003 - 17:50
Canada doesn&#39;t have copyright laws?
Im preety sure it does.

[abu_has_the_power]

but canada isn&#39;t affected by riaa and mpaa

[RealitY]

Canadians pay royalties on CDR&#39;s, thus sharing is legal in trade, should sum it up...

[Switeck]

Originally posted by REALITY@14 November 2003 - 21:32
Canadians pay royalties on CDR&#39;s, thus sharing is legal in trade, should sum it up...
It&#39;s illegal to share pre-releases of movies even in Canada unless you have permission from the makers. Mind you, it&#39;s not a felony (or equivalent), but it is illegal.

You can think of them as having NOT entered &#39;public domain&#39; (where the general public can see them) yet.

[ljossberir]

Hey, im an American but I gotta say I think he&#39;s right...

For one thing, I don&#39;t think they&#39;d be able to extradite you legally if you live in Canada for that sort of thing. The kind of thing we&#39;re talking about isn&#39;t really even illegal in Canada (completely illegal,that is..) Besides, American law (especially such trivial law) has no jurisdiction over the borders...

Secondly, I don&#39;t think even if they could, I don&#39;t think they would. What a godamn waste of time that would be&#33;

If they started messin with those canadians, I&#39;d fuckin throw a riot. It&#39;s bad enough the RIAA and MPAA do what they do to us

[james_bond_rulez]

you had better have billions of dollars to burn if you wanna mess with us Canadians.

;)

try extraditing millions of Canadians who share :lol:

[Supernatural]

The RIAA must have that much money, since they plan on suing every person who swaps music. :lol:

[SniperInTheShadows]

Right, that&#39;s it, i&#39;m moving to Canada&#33;&#33; Just hope I don&#39;t get nabbed on the way there lol

Why does everyone have a go at Canadians? :( They&#39;ve got some beautiful places in their country and i&#39;ve known a few Canadians and they&#39;ve all be friendly toward&#39;s me and have a good sense of humour :)

Sniper.

[MetroStars]

gud sum time in Jail is just wot i need....

well until i become a bitch :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by SniperInTheShadows@15 November 2003 - 10:28
Right, that&#39;s it, i&#39;m moving to Canada&#33;&#33; Just hope I don&#39;t get nabbed on the way there lol

Why does everyone have a go at Canadians? :( They&#39;ve got some beautiful places in their country and i&#39;ve known a few Canadians and they&#39;ve all be friendly toward&#39;s me and have a good sense of humour :)

Sniper.
wat i&#39;m really annoyed about is y the americans&#39; think canadians suck. we have the best gov provided services in the world. toronto is rated the best city to live in, and canada has like almost 0 crime rate. evil blind americans

[james_bond_rulez]

hehehehe :lol:

but we dont have zero crime rates....

take a walk in downtown vancouver you&#39;lll know what i mean ;)

[Adster]

Al I can say is thats the way it goes

[Alex H]

Ha&#33; Another really useful way of filling up American jails&#33; So they loose &#036;14.50 on the movie and &#036;100 000 on the cost of the extradition and associated legal challenges.

What would happen if a million file sharers went in to their local police stations and turned themselves in? The courts would be clogged for decades&#33;

[james_bond_rulez]

Americans are rich, let them waste their money <_<

[HitchcockPossessedBudgie]

wat i&#39;m really annoyed about is y the americans&#39; think canadians suck. we have the best gov provided services in the world. toronto is rated the best city to live in, and canada has like almost 0 crime rate. evil blind americans

Yes, and you can thank us for all the technology that we were kind enough to give you that allows you to live that way. How nice that you&#39;re using the internet and the computer, both of which were invented in the US, to complain about the US. Oh and where was file-sharing invented? That&#39;s what I thought.



Americans are rich, let them waste their money

They don&#39;t have much money to waste. The owners of Kazaa make 175 times as much as the highest paid member of the RIAA. They&#39;re just using another scare tactic with another bill that won&#39;t pass. We can always count on the Republicans to shoot down any anti-piracy bill, it&#39;s called Smithian economics.

[The Real Santa]

i think we should start telling everyone to use kazaa lite we arent gonna have any sources if people get sued and locked up ahh

[IWishAnon2609]

Not trying to argue here, although the internet did originate in the US by your DoD, the computer didn&#39;t, the original computer as we know it was the UTM, Universal Turing Machine, inventing by Alan Turing while studying for his PhD, in 1936 I think, who was English.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@15 November 2003 - 15:08
hehehehe :lol:

but we dont have zero crime rates....

take a walk in downtown vancouver you&#39;lll know what i mean ;)
i was talking about toronto. yea, vancouver is the only city in canada that has drug dealing

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+19 November 2003 - 06:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 19 November 2003 - 06:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@15 November 2003 - 15:08
hehehehe :lol:

but we dont have zero crime rates....

take a walk in downtown vancouver you&#39;lll know what i mean&nbsp; ;)
i was talking about toronto. yea, vancouver is the only city in canada that has drug dealing [/b][/quote]
i dont think so ;)

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+19 November 2003 - 01:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 19 November 2003 - 01:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@19 November 2003 - 06:05
<!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@15 November 2003 - 15:08
hehehehe :lol:

but we dont have zero crime rates....

take a walk in downtown vancouver you&#39;lll know what i mean ;)
i was talking about toronto. yea, vancouver is the only city in canada that has drug dealing
i dont think so ;) [/b][/quote]
dude. i lived in toronto for 4 years. i would know. plus, i remember we had a police officer come to our school to talk about drug awarness, and he said that vancouver had the most drugs and drug dealing

[james_bond_rulez]

<_< yeah but that doesn&#39;t mean toronto doesn&#39;t have drung dealings...

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@19 November 2003 - 08:24
<_< yeah but that doesn&#39;t mean toronto doesn&#39;t have drung dealings...
very small amount. even smaller amount compared to chicago. lol

[internet.news]

hmm...