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megabyteme
01-24-2012, 07:39 PM
Sincerely,
Comcast Customer Security Assurance

Copyright work(s) identified in the notification of claimed infringement:

Title: The Adjustment Bureau
Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 13 Jan 2012 04:11:02 GMT Recent Infringement Timestamp: 22 Jan 2012 23:31:17 GMT Infringing Filename: The.Adjustment.Bureau.2011.720p.BluRay.x264-SiNNERS
Infringing File size: 4758228610
Infringers IP Address: xxxxxxxxxx
Infringers DNS Name: xxxxxxxxxxcomcast.net
Bay ID:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Port ID: xxxxx


Just a heads-up. This was received today regarding a file I have been seeding on TL.

merwais
01-24-2012, 07:48 PM
Normally DMCA notice has tracker URL also.

I can't see tracker.torrentleech.org there. Lots of people downloading from public torrent sites and later blaming a private tracker.

Infringing File size: 4758228610

File size is not matching. I checked "The.Adjustment.Bureau.2011.720p.BluRay.x264-SiNNERS", TL release is different size, is not even close to 4758228610 (Filze size on TL is smaller).

You should keep log from where you are downloading ur stuff !!!

kingeater
01-24-2012, 07:57 PM
Looks like its from TL, file-size doesn't seem to be miles off or anything, maybe a MB or two off, and the file is still on there. Also, the file is still on there, with tons of snatches, so it would be a perfect target for this. Also, TL being a target/other members getting these notices in the past, it would not be a stretch that you could get dinged on a big-name movie there.

anon
01-24-2012, 07:58 PM
Normally DMCA notice has tracker URL also.

I can't see tracker.torrentleech.org there. Lots of people downloading from public torrent sites and later blaming a private tracker.

If he has downloaded and seeded that torrent from and on TL only, there's no question here, I think.

This is known to happen, sharky made an article on his site and all. I blame the size of their userbase.

Cabalo
01-24-2012, 08:06 PM
I use IP Filters to download from TL.
It's far from being foulproof, but I feel better with those on.

megabyteme
01-24-2012, 09:08 PM
As soon as I received the notice, I shut down my client. I did not remove the torrent, as I was still seeding. I thought it best to check all of my torrents for similarities (often big-budget flops), and minimize my risk of receiving another notice.

For those who give Merwais any credibility :frusty:, here is a screen cap of my seeded TL file. It is the one I received the notice for...

http://i40.tinypic.com/24g7tzp.jpg

merwais
01-24-2012, 09:09 PM
I use IP Filters to download from TL.
It's far from being foulproof, but I feel better with those on.

Having IP Filter is always good but i saw many many users on TL and even GFT reported about DMCA Notice and later found he downloaded the torrent from demonoid or ThePirateBay.
And users were telling they downloaded only and only from that site and later found downloaded from Demonoid :P

I am not saying TL is 100% secure but they should not directly blame a Tracker, they should be 100% sure before writing this. This warning means alot for a private tracker.

@megabyteme, i am not saying you are lying, i saw lots of wrong reports that's why. I think you definitely received that warning from TL downloading... saying from ur Screenshot :)

megabyteme
01-24-2012, 09:17 PM
And, just to show Merwais is always smarter before he makes a post (hint):

http://i39.tinypic.com/e7mo9l.jpg

Look at the one marked "GigaBytes", Merwais. You fumb duck...

kingeater
01-24-2012, 09:18 PM
^yeah, kinda did that on my own, not using that, just the 1024 rule, and a basic calculator :P
/in my original post I mean....

megabyteme
01-24-2012, 09:21 PM
With the political games going on right now, it is best for everyone to keep a close eye on their sharing habits. Look at the news page here- things are getting ugly...

merwais
01-24-2012, 09:21 PM
hahahah you found it :P

I used that damn page also and immediately removed my comment about size matching :cry:

Sorry about that.

megabyteme
01-24-2012, 09:24 PM
hahahah you found it :P

I used that damn page also and immediately removed my comment about size matching :cry:

Sorry about that.

Thanks for retracting your statement, Merwais. :console: :)

anon
01-24-2012, 10:21 PM
And, just to show Merwais is always smarter before he makes a post (hint):

http://i39.tinypic.com/e7mo9l.jpg

Look at the one marked "GigaBytes", Merwais. You fumb duck...

He thought the movie was 4.7 billion GB long? :unsure:

kingeater
01-24-2012, 11:12 PM
maybe used 1000 as the base instead of 1024?

IdolEyes787
01-24-2012, 11:28 PM
Sincerely,
Comcast Customer Security Assurance

Copyright work(s) identified in the notification of claimed infringement:

Title: The Adjustment Bureau
Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 13 Jan 2012 04:11:02 GMT Recent Infringement Timestamp: 22 Jan 2012 23:31:17 GMT Infringing Filename: The.Adjustment.Bureau.2011.720p.BluRay.x264-SiNNERS
Infringing File size: 4758228610
Infringers IP Address: xxxxxxxxxx
Infringers DNS Name: xxxxxxxxxxcomcast.net
Bay ID:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Port ID: xxxxx


Just a heads-up. This was received today regarding a file I have been seeding on TL.Since they stole the whole concept off of Fringe (and not the Phillip K. Dick story as alleged) I guess someone at Comcast have a sense of humour.

Pwner101
01-25-2012, 01:26 AM
People on TL have been known to get DMCA letters quite often tbh.
Or at least they did....
This is the second one I hear of coming from TL this week,
I hadn't heard of anyone getting any in over a year prior to 2 this week.

tannersmith
01-25-2012, 02:11 AM
So what happened as a result? Did you have to pay a fine or something?

megabyteme
01-25-2012, 03:13 AM
So what happened as a result? Did you have to pay a fine or something?

As it stands, I will ignore the warning. Responding in any way causes Concast to release customer details to the sharks. Unless the company pursues the issue further, all they have is an IP address on a Concast network. It is unlikely that anything will come of it, but there is potential for further issues down the road. These could range from a worst-case-scenario of lawsuit down to (if I received 2+(?)* more in the next 6(?)* months) getting my account closed for a year.

*I looked on Concast's DMCA policy page today, and could not find a specific number, nor time period (which makes for something that really should not be called a "POLICY"). I did come across some discussions, and it seemed to be around 3 notices before disconnect.

Lawsuits are rare- extortion schemes are FAR more common. Ignore as many, or ALL notices for as long as possible. And don't pay.

anon
01-25-2012, 03:47 AM
As it stands, I will ignore the warning. Responding in any way causes Concast to release customer details to the sharks. Unless the company pursues the issue further, all they have is an IP address on a Concast network.

What about your downloading habits? These letters aren't a problem where I live, but if they were and I used mainly torrents, I'd probably consider getting new releases from a smaller tracker instead...

The aforementioned IP filter is not at all a bad idea either, and you can get a good one here (http://tbg.iblocklist.com/). Fun game: load a public torrent of the latest blockbuster, watch the blocking log fly.

This reminds me, their sister porn site also has this problem.

megabyteme
01-25-2012, 04:06 AM
What about your downloading habits? These letters aren't a problem where I live, but if they were and I used mainly torrents, I'd probably consider getting new releases from a smaller tracker instead...

The aforementioned IP filter is not at all a bad idea either, and you can get a good one here (http://tbg.iblocklist.com/). Fun game: load a public torrent of the latest blockbuster, watch the blocking log fly.

This reminds me, their sister porn site also has this problem.

As always, great advice (Cabalo mentioned IP filtering, also), anon. I stopped my client immediately, and will start doing both. I'll grab television shows from TL, but refrain from grabbing readily-available movies from there. I will especially avoid the big-budget bombs- every DMCA notice I have received (3 over the years) has been just that. I'm almost certain studios are either using DL'ing as a scapegoat for losses, or are trying to cut losses through extortion schemes. It makes sense, doesn't it?

Thanks for that link, I will implement it ASAP. I will also cut off any seeds that are new movies that have been going for more than 4 days. The notice indicated that I had been seeding for (date X to date Y)- apparently, they go after people who are seeding for long periods- that seems to be the case with each notice I have received, also.

So, so far things for people (including myself) to implement to be "safer":

1. IP blocking software
2. Use smaller, private trackers instead of MEGA sites as much as possible
3. Avoid Big-Budget, Box-Office Bombs as they are DMCA notice magnets
4. Seed for 3-4 days, and cut off the torrent unless it is a small, private site with no indication of DMCA trouble.
5. Reduce the number of unnecessary seeding you are doing. Currently, I have over 100 files seeding- that's a lot more chances of getting a notice than say 10-15.

6. If you receive a notice, do nothing other than implement safe practices #'s 1-5 (above). Protesting the notice will only lead to your info being handed over to the MPAA/extortion-based lawyers involved.

I'll add more to this list if there are other good suggestions made. Thanks to everyone who has helped already!

*Updade 1- As always, use your best judgement. If a site has had no indication of problems, and there are requirements for seeding X days. Still be a good site member. Mainly, keep your seeding to a minimum- as in don't seed for 9+ days as I did on a MEGA site. Overseeding is just sticking your neck out too far, IMO.

Cabalo
01-25-2012, 04:08 AM
There's a far easier way to be safe than the stated above.
Just move on to the newsgroups and use torrents if you ever need something very specific not found on the USP servers.

anigav
01-25-2012, 04:10 AM
Or take a seedbox.

Cabalo
01-25-2012, 04:11 AM
Or take a seedbox.
... if you are willing to spend money aimlessly.

megabyteme
01-25-2012, 04:22 AM
There's a far easier way to be safe than the stated above.
Just move on to the newsgroups and use torrents if you ever need something very specific not found on the USP servers.

True. However, we are seeing all forms of file-sharing under attack. The suggestions are all basic, and don't involve much "work" beyond downloading the IP filter. They are just "smarter procedures" for those who do prefer BT.

anon
01-25-2012, 04:35 AM
As always, great advice (Cabalo mentioned IP filtering, also), anon. I stopped my client immediately, and will start doing both. I'll grab television shows from TL, but refrain from grabbing readily-available movies from there. I will especially avoid the big-budget bombs- every DMCA notice I have received (3 over the years) has been just that. I'm almost certain studios are either using DL'ing as a scapegoat for losses, or are trying to cut losses through extortion schemes. It makes sense, doesn't it?

Thanks for that link, I will implement it ASAP.

Cams and workprints should probably be specially avoided. I recall there was drama with that X-Men leak back in 2009.

I'm surprised you were using no IP filter so far, as they're pretty mainstream. Remember to keep it updated, as new blocing-worthy IPs are found and formerly "bad" ones are reused for something else. The one I linked to is apparently updated once a day, but getting a new copy every 1-2 weeks should be okay.


I will also cut off any seeds that are new movies that have been going for more than 4 days. The notice indicated that I had been seeding for (date X to date Y)- apparently, they go after people who are seeding for long periods- that seems to be the case with each notice I have received, also.

Does your upload speed allow you to keep a good ratio on those torrents within such a short timeframe?


So, so far things for people (including myself) to implement to be "safer":

*snip*

I'll add more to this list if there are other good suggestions made. Thanks to everyone who has helped already!

I guess you can add using a VPN, but that should be evaluated on a per-case basis and with the money good services cost, you can probably just acquire a Usenet subscription as Cabalo rightly stated. (After reading your last post, made while I wrote this, suffice to say it's not a "basic" measure :P)

anigav
01-25-2012, 04:54 AM
Or take a seedbox.
... if you are willing to spend money aimlessly.

Taking a modest seedbox for around $10 per month for a 200GB seedbox, imo is money well spent. No hassle - let it run 24/7, secured - all transfers to you are encrypted..

username-
01-25-2012, 05:13 AM
Will they notify TL to take the torrent down or are they just there to catch people?
Seems like a dumb question, but I remember Stardock contacting Demonoid when they found their products uploaded there and Demonoid removed them.

megabyteme
01-25-2012, 05:18 AM
Cams and workprints should probably be specially avoided. I recall there was drama with that X-Men leak back in 2009.

I'm surprised you were using no IP filter so far, as they're pretty mainstream. Remember to keep it updated, as new blocing-worthy IPs are found and formerly "bad" ones are reused for something else. The one I linked to is apparently updated once a day, but getting a new copy every 1-2 weeks should be okay.


I will also cut off any seeds that are new movies that have been going for more than 4 days. The notice indicated that I had been seeding for (date X to date Y)- apparently, they go after people who are seeding for long periods- that seems to be the case with each notice I have received, also.

Does your upload speed allow you to keep a good ratio on those torrents within such a short timeframe?


So, so far things for people (including myself) to implement to be "safer":

*snip*

I'll add more to this list if there are other good suggestions made. Thanks to everyone who has helped already!

I guess you can add using a VPN, but that should be evaluated on a per-case basis and with the money good services cost, you can probably just acquire a Usenet subscription as Cabalo rightly stated. (After reading your last post, made while I wrote this, suffice to say it's not a "basic" measure :P)

The workprints do seem to piss them off LOTS. I remember (places plug for people to read the NEWS section here) not too long ago, the guy who first uploaded Wolverine got a year in prison. Shows what can happen to "the little guy" when corporations get angry...

As for the IP filter- I had one for a while, and even posted about it. I thought it was a good idea, but about half of the people who responded (some fairly well-known, reasonable members) kinda felt it unnecessary. After it crashed on me a couple of times, and made eMule impossible to connect, I stopped using it altogether. My mistake/laziness, I suppose. Now that I have received a warning, I find vigilance a bit more important.

My speed, and monthly bandwidth (250GB) allows me to keep decent ratios. If I don't quite pay back on one torrent, another usually covers me. Most sites tend to want 2-4 days as a courtesy. I doubt that would put anyone in "the danger zone" for a notice. I believe I had been seeding for 9-ish days, if I remember correctly. I recently started grabbing more 720p files (upgraded my HT room with a HD projector recently :w00t: ), and just kinda left that one running. Started watching/downloading it on one of my Ambien nights, and never got back to seeing it clear-headed. The impression I (vaguely) remember is that it is a shit movie...

I think by the time BT gets so ugly that people need VPN's, all internet freedom will have fallen, and we'll be paying each time we look at a copyrighted image. Hopefully, that day will be held off for as long as possible. Yet I fear it will someday happen...


Will they notify TL to take the torrent down or are they just there to catch people?
Seems like a dumb question, but I remember Stardock contacting Demonoid when they found their products uploaded there and Demonoid removed them.

I am not certain what kind of relationship/contact TL maintains with DMCA notices (I am not active at all in their forums, and only download there). I believe this campaign would be focused on catching people/IPs. These campaigns take different forms, as I briefly mentioned in a couple of my other posts here.

Quarterquack
01-25-2012, 06:04 AM
Avoid bigger websites like TL/IPT/RTT. Disable peer exchange and DHT.

Buy a new router, or spoof your router ID. I won't get into the details of security* but just go do it. You'll secure yourself against hundreds of exploits that were opened thanks to google.

When downloading always try to download a torrent from the uploader only, or from the guy by the highest sharing ratio, by blocking every other IP (this is a legal measure - if the uploader facilitated the download and the information collection, evidence collected against you is void under illegal collection of information**), if the torrent is new.

If pushed or bullied by a law firm, notify them of the ruling of US Judge Harold Baker in VPR Internationale v. Does 1-1017, and since they don't have more conclusive DHT information, their information is worthless.

That is all.

EDIT: Also consider investing in a VPN. It'll be the most secure decision you made in your pirating life. :)

* - Some exploits not only can give a home address through an IP, but can also get a computer's signature behind a router through exploits. These are all rendered useless for a router bought after google maps street view was made for your area. This might sound like a long shot, but you never know what information "the man" is keeping.

** - The basic argument is if an illegal method is used to obtain your IP, there's no reason the accusing party isn't selectively discerning. A counter case can be put forth that they provide files to a lot of IP's and apply filtering to incriminate people with historical possession of the IP address to finance the most revenue from a case. This argument will hold in court.

Funkin'
01-25-2012, 08:42 AM
I'm surprised you were using no IP filter so far, as they're pretty mainstream.

I don't ever use one either. In fact I'm not even sure how to with rtorrent. Guess I should look into it though. But then again I pretty much only use bittorrent for music and usenet for everything else. Plus my TL account must have gotten disabled for inactivity(which it looks to be a good thing), so I'm not overly worried about it.

username-
01-25-2012, 09:49 AM
@ megabyteme thanks for the heads up. I don't really use the site enough to worry, but that torrent isn't exactly new.
I think I might just let my account die out. I was looking for something about a week ago with decent seeds and checked tl and ended up snatching 2 uploads not related.

mjmacky
01-25-2012, 03:32 PM
I had gotten one of these letters in the past. They are good for scooping up cat vomit (or hairball) from a linoleum floor.

anigav
01-25-2012, 03:39 PM
I had gotten one of these letters in the past. They are good for scooping up cat vomit (or hairball) from a linoleum floor.

How about wooden floor? do they work?

mjmacky
01-25-2012, 03:57 PM
I have tile and wood now, but no DMCA letters.

stoi
01-25-2012, 04:45 PM
Dont some unscrupulous clients ignore the DHT for private torrents, so if someone uses that on a private torrent, and its a well known release, your IP can come up seeding to a public tracker, even though you are nowhere near that tracker on your end.

So it doesnt mean TL have been infiltrated, it could be someone using a cheat client which ignores DHT and its not an exclusive torrent (IE Scene release thats all over). which could also say why you didnt get a tracker name in the notice.

Maybe anon can fill us in better on that, but i believe that is a possibility.

absent_today
01-25-2012, 05:09 PM
Can the authorities also monitor private tracker data ?

anon
01-25-2012, 05:36 PM
When downloading always try to download a torrent from the uploader only, or from the guy by the highest sharing ratio, by blocking every other IP

Isn't that too cumbersome?


I don't ever use one either. In fact I'm not even sure how to with rtorrent. Guess I should look into it though. But then again I pretty much only use bittorrent for music and usenet for everything else. Plus my TL account must have gotten disabled for inactivity(which it looks to be a good thing), so I'm not overly worried about it.

Apparently rTorrent has no built-in IP filter of its own. There's a patch (http://www.fateyev.com/files/coding/rtorrent-0.8.9-ip_filter_no_boost-fast-bsd2.patch) available for version 0.8.9, however. Once again, letters are no problem where I live, but I've always used a filter and kept it updated. If certain IPs are known to be "bad", there's no sense in connecting to them, even if it carries no risk for me.


Dont some unscrupulous clients ignore the DHT for private torrents, so if someone uses that on a private torrent, and its a well known release, your IP can come up seeding to a public tracker, even though you are nowhere near that tracker on your end.

So it doesnt mean TL have been infiltrated, it could be someone using a cheat client which ignores DHT and its not an exclusive torrent (IE Scene release thats all over). which could also say why you didnt get a tracker name in the notice.

Maybe anon can fill us in better on that, but i believe that is a possibility.

It's possible given a particular set of conditions. The info_hash must be the same, but if TL's .torrent file manages to sneak out of the tracker (happens (http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=tracker.torrentleech.org+site:btjunkie.org&n=2)), that's a given. Now, if I am using a proper client it'll ignore all DHT and PEX messages pertaining to a torrent marked as private, but that doesn't mean I'm invulnerable: if I'm A, and two other peers using a DHT-patched client are B and C, C can't get a DHT/PEX reply from me and begin leeching, but he can get my IP from B and then connect to me. BT is no secure protocol and doesn't do checking of any sort, so the right combination is enough to begin transferring. It's been done (http://torrentfreak.com/private-bittorrent-trackers-vulnerable-to-anonymous-leechers-070907/) (although that case in particular was a less automated way). Can be exceptionally successful with seedbox IPs and ports that do not change.


Can the authorities also monitor private tracker data ?

No, trackers with member counts on the hundreds of thousands are completely secure. The feds don't have the time and social skills to snatch an invite, so they turn to The Pirate Bay instead. :yup:

merwais
01-25-2012, 11:35 PM
Or.... Maybe megabyteme's ISP is keeping eye on him.You never know ;)

mjmacky
01-26-2012, 12:05 AM
Or.... Maybe megabyteme's ISP is keeping eye on him.You never know ;)

I'm sure I could think of 1024 reasons why Comcast doesn't give 2 shits about any of its customers.

Raban
01-26-2012, 12:13 AM
yes of course... you would have to be an idiot to download any movie from TL... it's been known for a long time that site is infiltrated and being monitored.

if you want to download a movie use hdbits which has an exclusive userbase..... unlike TL which has what 300,000 users if not more. if it's not on hdbits then go to usenet where you know you won't be monitored.

anon
01-26-2012, 12:23 AM
I'm sure I could think of 1024 reasons why Comcast doesn't give 2 shits about any of its customers.

:lol:

Are they that bad? Most people I've spoken to on the Internet made negative comments about them... not to mention the drama with P2P shaping and lying to their customers about it...

mjmacky
01-26-2012, 12:24 AM
yes of course... you would have to be an idiot to download any movie from TL... it's been known for a long time that site is infiltrated and being monitored.

if you want to download a movie use hdbits which has an exclusive userbase..... unlike TL which has what 300,000 users if not more. if it's not on hdbits then go to usenet where you know you won't be monitored.

Or you could just not really give a fuck. But then again, you properly followed it with an idiotic suggestion, followed by a more obvious and unrelated one. This was an obvious post and a self-referencing statement.

IdolEyes787
01-26-2012, 12:25 AM
yes of course... you would have to be an idiot to download any movie from TL... it's been known for a long time that site is infiltrated and being monitored.

if you want to download a movie use hdbits which has an exclusive userbase..... unlike TL which has what 300,000 users if not more. if it's not on hdbits then go to usenet where you know you won't be monitored.I tried to go to Hdbits but they gave me some shit about not having an account.
Btw no offense but it doesn't seem idiocy is limited to TL users.

mjmacky
01-26-2012, 12:29 AM
I'm sure I could think of 1024 reasons why Comcast doesn't give 2 shits about any of its customers.

:lol:

Are they that bad? Most people I've spoken to on the Internet made negative comments about them... not to mention the drama with P2P shaping and lying to their customers about it...

They are a big pile of suck, what's worse is many times they're the only game in town. I gave up on internet and cable for a period of time (before the whole antipiracy movement), so whereas Comcast is the evil ex, phone company DSL was the psycho infatuated girl you try to shake off immediately after getting into her nether zones.

cola
01-26-2012, 04:29 AM
Their shaping is protocol agnostic now. And only lasts 15 minutes at a time.

Plus, they have the same 3 strikes rule that all the other major ISPs.

megabyteme
01-26-2012, 07:42 AM
I'm sure I could think of 1024 reasons why Comcast doesn't give 2 shits about any of its customers.

:lol:

Are they that bad? Most people I've spoken to on the Internet made negative comments about them... not to mention the drama with P2P shaping and lying to their customers about it...

Yes. As macky says below your post, I have two choices- the phone company (which I used to have, but got so pissed with them over a $20 discrepancy, and their switching me to M$ DSL without my consent that I canceled ALL of my services with them. And Concast which makes my skin crawl to have to send them a cent (it's a lot more than that, but if I looked at the bill, I would :sick: ) each month.

I was actually considering mooching/hacking my neighbors' wireless accounts before the moral police around here made me reconsider...

Hypatia
01-26-2012, 11:37 AM
1. IP blocking software
2. Use smaller, private trackers instead of MEGA sites as much as possible
3. Avoid Big-Budget, Box-Office Bombs as they are DMCA notice magnets
4. Seed for 3-4 days, and cut off the torrent
5. Reduce the number of unnecessary seeding you are doing. Currently, I have over 100 files seeding- that's a lot more chances of getting a notice than say 10-15.

6. If you receive a notice, do nothing other than implement safe practices #'s 1-5 (above). Protesting the notice will only lead to your info being handed over to the MPAA/extortion-based lawyers involved

sounds kinda excessive
id suggest 2 variants:

I
- move to newsgroups
-TrueCrypt all hard disk drives+a system drive(password+key)

II
- get a decent VPN (not US based) that is secure and not expensive)
-TrueCrypt all hard disk drives+a system drive(password+key)


= authorities can go fuck themselves up their greedy asses.

IdolEyes787
01-26-2012, 12:43 PM
1. IP blocking software
2. Use smaller, private trackers instead of MEGA sites as much as possible
3. Avoid Big-Budget, Box-Office Bombs as they are DMCA notice magnets
4. Seed for 3-4 days, and cut off the torrent
5. Reduce the number of unnecessary seeding you are doing. Currently, I have over 100 files seeding- that's a lot more chances of getting a notice than say 10-15.

6. If you receive a notice, do nothing other than implement safe practices #'s 1-5 (above). Protesting the notice will only lead to your info being handed over to the MPAA/extortion-based lawyers involved

sounds kinda excessive
id suggest 2 variants:

I
- move to newsgroups
-TrueCrypt all hard disk drives+a system drive(password+key)

II
- get a decent VPN (not US based) that is secure and not expensive)
-TrueCrypt all hard disk drives+a system drive(password+key)


= authorities can go fuck themselves up their greedy asses.
III
- forsake your life of crime.

= scofflaws can go fuck themselves up their greedy asses.:mellow:

anon
01-26-2012, 05:39 PM
Yes. As macky says below your post, I have two choices- the phone company (which I used to have, but got so pissed with them over a $20 discrepancy, and their switching me to M$ DSL without my consent that I canceled ALL of my services with them. And Concast which makes my skin crawl to have to send them a cent (it's a lot more than that, but if I looked at the bill, I would :sick: ) each month.

I was actually considering mooching/hacking my neighbors' wireless accounts before the moral police around here made me reconsider...

Thank you both for the info, and trust me, stealing your neighbor's Wi-Fi wasn't really a good idea.


-TrueCrypt all hard disk drives+a system drive(password+key)

What about installing a key to instantly degauss your disks? :blink:

I don't think MBM or most people here can expect to have their homes raided to justify drive encryption... it is nice for laptops though, I was actually considering encrypting mine in case I ever lose it or it's stolen.

Hypatia
01-26-2012, 09:39 PM
to have their homes raided to justify drive encryption

you never know=) it is always good to have all the actual "evidence" (not we-caught-your-ip-address-downloading lame sh!it) that might hurt you hidden from the mafia and authorities

i dont see a problem here tbh i have all my hdd truecrypted though i didnt use a password, just a key file that consists of a number of files of different extensions(some song some images whatever looks not suspicious).


o instantly degauss your disks?

why would i want to destroy my stuff if i could have it perfectly protected.


scofflaws can go fuck themselves up their greedy asses

ive always wondered how would i define this act of profound stamina and flexibility...
we've got autofellatio, right.. self-ass-fucking? Doesnt sound good :D

stoi
01-26-2012, 11:30 PM
Everyone says truecrypt, but it depends where you live

95% sure that if you are in the UK, and you have your drives encrypted, and you dont give them the info to get into them, its a 5 year prison term, just for that, when for copyright infringement you may get a slap on the wrist and a £200 fine (really worth it, I think not)

bijoy
01-27-2012, 07:44 AM
Buy a new router, or spoof your router ID. I won't get into the details of security* but just go do it. You'll secure yourself against hundreds of exploits that were opened thanks to google.


The best idea given here. +1.
Spoof router ID, so that they can't catch you.

Quarterquack
01-27-2012, 02:23 PM
The best idea given here. +1.
Spoof router ID, so that they can't catch you.

Are you being sarcastic? :unsure:

Disme
01-27-2012, 03:57 PM
The best idea given here. +1.
Spoof router ID, so that they can't catch you.

Are you being sarcastic? :unsure:

Spoofing your routers id is pretty useless ... your ISP knows what IP-adress they gave you ... what router-id you use is irrelevant when establishing, at your ISP's side, who use a certain IP-adress in their range at a given time.
Spoofing your modems-id is another thing. Don't know if that is actually possible but that would mean you can pretend to be let's say your neighbour who has the same ISP.

anon
01-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Spoofing your modems-id is another thing. Don't know if that is actually possible but that would mean you can pretend to be let's say your neighbour who has the same ISP.

Changing the modem's MAC is possible via reflashing the firmware, but I honestly have no idea if you could clone someone else's modem and use that as long as they're offline. And it sounds a bit too easy...

ajsi
01-27-2012, 05:30 PM
Spoofing your routers id is pretty useless ... your ISP knows what IP-adress they gave you ... what router-id you use is irrelevant when establishing, at your ISP's side, who use a certain IP-adress in their range at a given time.
Spoofing your modems-id is another thing. Don't know if that is actually possible but that would mean you can pretend to be let's say your neighbour who has the same ISP.
Exactly that.

I'd be interested in just hearing if it actually is technically possible to spoof your modem's ID. Because from what I understand, if you spoof it to something that is not registered with the provider, you won't be able to connect, since I suppose DHCP server won't recognize that address and thus will not assign you an IP and if you want the modem to pretend to be your neighbour's, how do you find out their modem's ID? I've been getting into networking lately and this idea rocks my mind right now, so I'd like to know more..


Changing the modem's MAC is possible via reflashing the firmware, but I honestly have no idea if you could clone someone else's modem and use that as long as they're offline. And it sounds a bit too easy...Even if they're offline, isn't their modem still online and its MAC address considered as being active and online, unless the modem is plugged out/turned off?

anon
01-27-2012, 05:33 PM
and if you want the modem to pretend to be your neighbour's, how do you find out their modem's ID?

Modems usually serve a page which contains status and technical information. For me it's 192.168.100.1. You can see the MAC address there. Obviously this requires physical access to their computer.

ajsi
01-27-2012, 05:36 PM
and if you want the modem to pretend to be your neighbour's, how do you find out their modem's ID?

Modems usually serve a page which contains status and technical information. For me it's 192.168.100.1. You can see the MAC address there. Obviously this requires physical access to their computer.
Yes, I know that you can find out your modem's MAC, I was pointing out to how would one find out a MAC of a remote modem. Getting physical access to their computer was the only thing that came to my mind, but maybe there is some other way I'm not familiar with.

Cabalo
01-27-2012, 07:11 PM
It's quite easy to do so if you're acquainted with airodump-ng. It takes only a few seconds.

anon
01-27-2012, 07:21 PM
Even if they're offline, isn't their modem still online and its MAC address considered as being active and online, unless the modem is plugged out/turned off?

That's what I meant with offline. :)

ajsi
01-27-2012, 07:42 PM
Even if they're offline, isn't their modem still online and its MAC address considered as being active and online, unless the modem is plugged out/turned off?

That's what I meant with offline. :)Well in that case that is quite hopeless because I don't know anyone that plugs out their modem :)

beat-db
01-27-2012, 08:04 PM
yeah ive stayed well clear of tl for a few years now ever since a mate got a letter through the door saying his ip was seen on there downloading some film. suppose its a risk you take when its a big site like that sadly. also the adverts piss me off, like they dont get enough cash from donations with all those users?

Quarterquack
01-29-2012, 02:37 AM
Spoofing your routers id is pretty useless ... your ISP knows what IP-adress they gave you ... what router-id you use is irrelevant when establishing, at your ISP's side, who use a certain IP-adress in their range at a given time.
Spoofing your modems-id is another thing. Don't know if that is actually possible but that would mean you can pretend to be let's say your neighbour who has the same ISP.

You're way off with what I meant. An ISP can't do anything with an IP address. It has to prove the IP address is used in an illegal manner to incriminate you. Even then the next hurdle is proving that it's actually you carrying out the illegal activity.

That's where spoofing the ID matters. There are many exploits that can remote identify a router ID and address just based on IP address. Read about them.

It's over-reaching but I'd rather stay on top of my game when I'm carrying out illegal activity instead of falling back on "as if they'd ever go that far."


Getting physical access to their computer was the only thing that came to my mind, but maybe there is some other way I'm not familiar with.

It's a very intensive exploit, but it exists.

cherio
01-30-2012, 03:25 AM
its best to avoid open signup public trackers like TL or IPT. Stick to smaller private sites. All the content is the same with less risk of being monitored.

cinephilia
01-30-2012, 03:29 PM
its best to avoid open signup public trackers like TL or IPT. Stick to smaller private sites. All the content is the same with less risk of being monitored.

TL has the best retention of all trackers on the web, you can still use it for old releases as your ISP will never send you a letter for a 5 years old movie.

beat-db
01-30-2012, 06:24 PM
how do you mean by sign up public trackers? i thought ipt and tl was closed and invite only?

anon
01-30-2012, 06:29 PM
I'm guessing he means TL and IPT are so easy to get in they're like a public tracker to him.

waterMellons
01-31-2012, 11:09 AM
With all the money everyone saves, who can't afford a seedbox?