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letme
01-25-2012, 01:13 PM
as title say, what is the best usenet provider for posting safety?

Hypatia
01-25-2012, 01:16 PM
as title say, what is the best usenet provider?

orly?

so, whats the actual question-the one in the title or the one in the post?

letme
01-25-2012, 01:21 PM
sorry :P
i edit my post now :)

Hypatia
01-25-2012, 02:00 PM
if you intend to post stuff to usenet then your choice should be astraweb.

giganews\supernews and highwinds resellers are a no go due to account banning upon recieving complaints(two strikes policy).
usenetnow\blocknews are somewhat slow when uploading

if you dont plan on downloading anything then you could just get astraweb block account(25Gb). its non expiring, there is no upload limit, you can share it(50 connections available totally)

Upload must be done only via Jbinup with header checking activated to ensure that all articles are posted correctly

if you want to download stuff as well then read this (http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/444165-totally-new-to-usenet-some-questions?p=3646631&viewfull=1#post3646631)

letme
01-25-2012, 02:09 PM
thanks for your reply, i already have an astraweb account, but i see that in headers there is "X-TRACE" and i guess is not much safe, am i wrong?
i see for example that download2day.nl or ssl-news.info or aeton.nl that donw have this header in their post, do you think are better then astraweb?

thanks again

letme
01-25-2012, 02:10 PM
thanks for your reply, i already have an astraweb account, but i see that in headers there is "X-TRACE" and i guess is not much safe, am i wrong?
i see for example that download2day(dot)nl or ssl-news(dot)info or aeton(dot)nl that donw have this header in their post, do you think are better then astraweb?

thanks again

letme
01-25-2012, 02:44 PM
i already have an astraweb account, and i see that in headers there is "X-TRACE" and i think is not so safe, am i wrong?
i see for example post from download2day or ssl-news or aeton that dont have "X-TRACE" in header, are much safe?

thanks in advance

Hypatia
01-25-2012, 03:00 PM
i would say you are right if you are going to upload child porno.

Other than that you dont need to worry much about it.Astraweb doesnt care what you post.

But if you feel really insecure then you could get a block account(they are very cheap) from those providers you've mentioned since as it seems they dont have x-trace embedded in ones posts.

letme
01-25-2012, 03:12 PM
of course i dont :| and hope nobody does
but for example if i post movie or tv show or music or apps?

anyway for example aeton say:

IP-Logs: No
Data-Logs: No

and in "legal and policies" page:

Posting

When examining implications of inappropriate or offensive postings over our servers aEton Usenet follows further mentioned guidelines. Inappropriate or even offending postings can lead to temporary or sustained barring of the account's posting access or to cancellation of the account.
Copyright

In almost every country copyright is protected by law. aEton Usenet considers it neither possible nor desirable to control information transmitted over or stored in its system. When you apply for usage of an aEton Usenet account you agree not to communicate copyright protected works without prior consent of the copyright owner over our system.

so maybe it is not much anonymous as i was thinking, or im wrong?

letme
01-25-2012, 03:16 PM
of course i dont :| and hope nobody does
but for example if i post movie or tv show or music or apps?

anyway for example aeton say:

IP-Logs: No
Data-Logs: No

and in "legal and policies" page:

Civil Investigation

aEton Usenet hands over personal or usage data of a client only by order of a competent court to an investigation officer, lawyer or authorities. The client is informed of a court hearing and has the right to appeal against the handing over of his personal data.
Criminal Investigation

aEton Usenet entirely cooperates with executive bodies of the USA. However, before handing over client data aEton Usenet has to receive a corresponding legal order. According to the Fourth Amendment of the USA Constitution a legal order is required for search and alienation. Upon an according request of executive bodies aEton confirms the existence of a client's personal data and upon an according request prepares a technical description of the property to be alienated. In case of a police investigation aEton is obliged to inform the respective client of the performance of such an investigation.

so maybe it is not much anonymous as i was thinking, or im wrong?

anyway how can they know who posted something without "X-TRACE" header?

cola
01-25-2012, 03:17 PM
If you're really really worried, just get an account with an NL usenet provider. I like tweaknews.eu. Their cheapest block account is 1.47. I use one of the resellers, cheapnews.eu, which happened to be a bit more money.

Almost every host will have x-trace, even if they don't care about copyrighted stuff, they still have to have a way to deal with general abuse.

letme
01-25-2012, 03:20 PM
why a NL usenet provider? copyright is not protected by law in NL?

cola
01-25-2012, 03:32 PM
It's not enforced the same way or are aggressively. A lot of p2p trackers are based in NL for that reason.

Hypatia
01-25-2012, 03:35 PM
copyright is not protected by law in NL?

thats a good point, Cola.

Recently hollywood watchdog BREIN(NL) due to a criminal collusion with a bent judge won the case against news-service forsing them practically to close their business

let's wait for other opinions =)

Beck, zot where ru? =))

cola
01-25-2012, 03:45 PM
Yeah, but that service put a big target on their back by advertising their service specifically as a way to get warez, music, ect.

A swedish usenet provider would be the most ideal, but I don't think they exist.

hdjunky
01-27-2012, 07:55 PM
For posting safety maybe mailing your payment in with fake details would be the ultimate. Can't really trace that all to easily.

heiska
01-27-2012, 10:35 PM
Buy a cheap block account with VCC and use VPN to upload - problem solved.