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rocky12
03-16-2012, 11:01 AM
I have a few questions? I'm going to ask these as I go along.

1.) I'm interested in using the TOR onion router to not get busted. I found a TOR tutorial. https://help.riseup.net/en/tor would that be a good tutorial? Would it be recommended not to use the TOR browser, but what use a bowser I prefer such as Chrome? Since I find the Wiki tutorials hard to follow. Could someone recommend a tutorial for setting it up? Or would the tutorial above do the job?

2.) I was going to use JAP for anonymity with browsing. Should I not use both JAP, and TOR? If I shouldn't use both then what one does everyone recommend? I'm taking a guess by saying people would recommend using TOR?

heiska
03-16-2012, 12:39 PM
Both of them are slow as hell for file sharing.

rocky12
03-16-2012, 12:53 PM
What do you prefer to use for file sharing?



Both of them are slow as hell for file sharing.

heiska
03-16-2012, 04:22 PM
I prefer to use no proxies. They're for pussies ;)

anon
03-16-2012, 05:01 PM
Would it be recommended not to use the TOR browser, but what use a bowser I prefer such as Chrome?

Any browser that supports SOCKS proxies (and that's any browser nowadays) will work. There was a way even for those that don't.

Why would you want to use both at the same time? They're already slow enough as is.

rocky12
03-16-2012, 07:42 PM
1.) Does Chrome supports SOCKS proxies?

2.) anon, which of the two should I go with?

3.) Are there tutorials for configuring and setting this up?

anon
03-17-2012, 01:04 AM
3.) Are there tutorials for configuring and setting this up?

Oooh, I'm sure there are. And maybe Google can also help with your other questions...

rocky12
03-17-2012, 10:36 AM
I tried Google many of times now, and that was just for tutorials alone. I did not see any. If I didn't see any turorials then I highly doubt my other questions won't be on there too.




3.) Are there tutorials for configuring and setting this up?

Oooh, I'm sure there are. And maybe Google can also help with your other questions...

atrwz
03-23-2012, 12:46 AM
this sites you trying to use or the proxies that mention above are not for filesharing usage!
you missing all the fun when u using those things. (ddl is for speed, whats the usage without speed?)
dont be such a pussie!
its very difficult to bust you from ddl!

NesteaZen
03-31-2012, 12:18 PM
I once wrote a tutorial on Tor because I wanted people to join relaying. I should update it since scroogle went down.
But the best source of information would be Tor's own website obviously, torproject.org.
http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/409717-Tor-setup-and-usage-Anonymity

rocky12
03-31-2012, 05:18 PM
Thank you for that tutorial!

Here's some questions if anyone could answer?

I'm slow at learning, obviously. I'm sorry, but the truth is I don't like to make it hard on people. I don't like to be made fun for not being to follow something.

I was reading online that what the workaround I'm looking for would be DNS blocking. They recommended in the article to use a Firefox add-on called DeSOPA. I was originally searching for the bypass for 7/1/12, and I saw that article.

1.) Will DeSOPA work?

2.) Is it worth it?

3.) Or there be a better DNS blocking workaround out there?

NesteaZen
03-31-2012, 05:45 PM
That's something else. DNS blocking is not a measure used by the user (edit:that's incorrect. It can be used intentionally to block websites like porn or ad suppliers using the hosts file) or a measure you want to have. It's something ISPs can implement.
If your ISP/country uses DNS blocking that's where Tor could come into play.
Actually I got lost a little bit. What is it you want to achieve?

anon
03-31-2012, 05:46 PM
3.) Or there be a better DNS blocking workaround out there?

Use name servers from countries where SOPA isn't a problem.

http://www.adslayuda.com/modulo-FSDns.html

rocky12
03-31-2012, 06:50 PM
Netherlands? That's my first country response. Where do I get those name servers from. I believe that's SOPA has not hit the Netherlands, right? I believe it's the safest country, right? It's the only one that came to my mind.

Would it be better to use Tor on default settings to bypass the anti privacy? Or would it be better off finding an out of country name server?

I wouldn't even know where to find out of country name servers.

anon, on that link you gave, how do I setup those name servers?




3.) Or there be a better DNS blocking workaround out there?

Use name servers from countries where SOPA isn't a problem.

http://www.adslayuda.com/modulo-FSDns.html

anon
03-31-2012, 07:20 PM
anon, on that link you gave, how do I setup those name servers?

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/15037-dns-addressing-how-change-windows-7-a.html

Obviously, you want to use the IPs I gave you instead.

NesteaZen
03-31-2012, 07:24 PM
anon just gave you a list.. ? You have to configure your OS to use those servers or your router.
What OS are you on?
There's also OpenDNS.

rocky12
03-31-2012, 07:54 PM
How do I configure it for my OS?

I'm on a Windows 7 Home Premium Anytime Upgrade, and that is a 32-bit OS, and not 64-bit. I don't have a router. I have a DSL modem from my ISP without the router.

I would like to use that list? Or if it doesn't work then how do I configure OpenDNS?




anon just gave you a list.. ? You have to configure your OS to use those servers or your router.
What OS are you on?
There's also OpenDNS.

NesteaZen
03-31-2012, 09:35 PM
It's right there, in the sevenforums.com link.

rocky12
03-31-2012, 10:09 PM
Alright, I noticed that. Sorry.

Will this still us be able to download from torrents such as Demonoid without any legal actions taken place?

Also, I have one site that anon gave me with IP addresses, and the other was a tutorial for setting it. I just want to make sure I am doing this right, so what exact IP addresses am I taken from the first site to plug into the DNS fields, and then I could follow on with the rest of the tutorial?

I am looking for a short answer. Will this DNS method be the way to go? Or do we still need Tor?

anon
03-31-2012, 10:17 PM
Will this still us be able to download from torrents such as Demonoid without any legal actions taken place?

No. It'll only evade any DNS blocks, which is what you first asked about.

rocky12
03-31-2012, 10:35 PM
I don't know what to say. It seems like I won't be able to make it pass the law?

I have Usenet with my ISP. Maybe I would need to find a free client then subscribe to groups, and download headers?

I don't know of any good free header clients. Well, GrabIt, but they have a large header bug. I tested it, and they were right from what I read. My headers downloaded, but I couldn't see them. That's because there is a bug.

Any client recommendations would be great. I have a 10 gig a month limit with my ISP, so I'll use them.

I need a client....




Will this still us be able to download from torrents such as Demonoid without any legal actions taken place?

No. It'll only evade any DNS blocks, which is what you first asked about.

mjmacky
03-31-2012, 10:53 PM
Let's just clear up one thing. SOPA is a U.S. legislative bill that has currently been shelved (i.e. no vote has been cast for it). PIPA has also been shelved. There's a possibility that they'll vote on it in the future, but there is no such thing as SOPA and PIPA policies since it is not a law. SOPA, if ever passed, cannot reach beyond the borders of the U.S. since it would be a U.S. law. Some countries have initiated internet censorship policies, but they'll be called something else, consult your local fascist law for the details if that's the case.

rocky12
03-31-2012, 11:27 PM
@mjmacky,

Thank you for sharing that info with me!

Will someone be along shortly to provide free header client, and possibly a tutorial for it? Or would you be nice enough to provide those recommendations to me?

rocky12
04-01-2012, 01:42 PM
I guess what I was trying to ask was "similar" to Forte Agent? Yes, there is XNews. Or maybe even XPN. I know XNews supports what I'm looking for, but I haven't tried it. Headers clients that are supports like alt.binaries? Who uses those in this day and age? I believe most folks are going with NZB's? Who actually sits in front of a PC these days using text-based header supported newsreaders? LOL.

o0oshadow
06-30-2012, 08:57 PM
using tor is a great idea in theory, but you have to remember its relaying information across multiple points to not disclose the original source, which means you are going to loose latency and speed each time you add a point. since tor uses MULTIPLE points to do this you will be loosing ALOT of speed and gaining a ton of anonymity.... i guess way how important it is not to be known? realistically your chances are low of being caught. there are millions doing downloads everyday and only a hand full of them EVER get caught. your best bet is choose reliable sources.

rocky12
06-30-2012, 09:11 PM
Hey, thank you for the info with you replying to both of my threads. I would say that both Demonoid, and RuTracker are good, so would you recommend those?