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Metaphysic
03-19-2012, 07:55 PM
Hello,


Recently out of curiosity I've learned pi to 120 digits and how to solve a rubik's cube (can solve it in ~50 seconds), and after seeing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUGjUCHSKLM) video (the same girl was elected to go on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to broadcast her ability) attempted to put them together but with an additional component, that being multiplying double digits numbers by single digit numbers (such as 97*8). So as I'm reciting 100 digit strings of pi consecutively, each in 15 second speed intervals, and solving the rubik's cube, I'm multiplying double digit numbers by single digit numbers. So, in theory, completing three mental tasks simultaneously. My question is: do you think being able to do this requires above average intelligence or do you think anyone of normal intelligence can do it? Most of the people commenting on the video I mentioned in which the girl balances books on her head while solving a rubik's cube and reciting pi to 100 digits claim that the girl possesses some kind of extraordinary talent, and being that she was selected to go on The Ellen Degenres Show it seems like it might be worth of some recognition. What do you think?

Skiz
03-19-2012, 08:14 PM
tl;dr

Metaphysic
03-19-2012, 08:28 PM
tl;dr

What?

IdolEyes787
03-19-2012, 08:50 PM
I had a Rubik's Cube once but I couldn't figure out how to get it out of the packaging.

teflon05
03-19-2012, 08:53 PM
I'd like to know where you make the connection between intelligence & being on the Ellen Degenres show.:idunno:

manker
03-19-2012, 09:49 PM
Hello,


Recently out of curiosity I've learned pi to 120 digits and how to solve a rubik's cube (can solve it in ~50 seconds), and after seeing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUGjUCHSKLM) video (the same girl was elected to go on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to broadcast her ability) attempted to put them together but with an additional component, that being multiplying double digits numbers by single digit numbers (such as 97*8). So as I'm reciting 100 digit strings of pi consecutively, each in 15 second speed intervals, and solving the rubik's cube, I'm multiplying double digit numbers by single digit numbers. So, in theory, completing three mental tasks simultaneously. My question is: do you think being able to do this requires above average intelligence or do you think anyone of normal intelligence can do it? Most of the people commenting on the video I mentioned in which the girl balances books on her head while solving a rubik's cube and reciting pi to 100 digits claim that the girl possesses some kind of extraordinary talent, and being that she was selected to go on The Ellen Degenres Show it seems like it might be worth of some recognition. What do you think?Well, people learn Pi to thousands of decimal places, can solve Rubik's cubes in half the time and can multiply much, much, larger numbers.
So all you're doing is three mediocre things simultaneously. I think that most people could learn how to do that stuff given a few weeks training.

That's not to say if I saw you doing those things, I wouldn't be impressed. I would. But it's kinda like seeing a precocious 10 year old on Countdown get an eight letter word; you're initially impressed until you realise that he will probably remain a virgin forever.

megabyteme
03-19-2012, 10:07 PM
Hello,


Recently out of curiosity I've learned pi to 120 digits and how to solve a rubik's cube (can solve it in ~50 seconds), and after seeing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUGjUCHSKLM) video (the same girl was elected to go on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to broadcast her ability) attempted to put them together but with an additional component, that being multiplying double digits numbers by single digit numbers (such as 97*8). So as I'm reciting 100 digit strings of pi consecutively, each in 15 second speed intervals, and solving the rubik's cube, I'm multiplying double digit numbers by single digit numbers. So, in theory, completing three mental tasks simultaneously. My question is: do you think being able to do this requires above average intelligence or do you think anyone of normal intelligence can do it? Most of the people commenting on the video I mentioned in which the girl balances books on her head while solving a rubik's cube and reciting pi to 100 digits claim that the girl possesses some kind of extraordinary talent, and being that she was selected to go on The Ellen Degenres Show it seems like it might be worth of some recognition. What do you think?

I would expect someone of "superior intelligence" to be able to write something interesting, and not so repetitive. The Rubiks cube was an '80's fad and long since fallen from the limelight. And everyone reading this has access to some form of computer which can calculate pi as far out sa one would wish.

Your talents are irrelevant. So is Ellen Degenres.

mjmacky
03-19-2012, 10:42 PM
Sounds like a confined thinker to me. I can solve the Rubiks cube from any configuration in under 30 seconds by removing the stickers (that's it, I just remove the stickers, problem solved). I know enough digits of pi to get match any practical set of significant figures. I can multiply a shitload of numbers in my head since it tends to make things a lot easier and faster for me. But there's one thing I can't do. I can't get Portia de Rossi to fuck me willingly. So Ellen wins.

manker
03-19-2012, 10:58 PM
I'm just going to make an educated guess that Ellen Degenres is the white Oprah.

IdolEyes787
03-19-2012, 11:06 PM
I'd like to know where you make the connection between intelligence & being on the Ellen Degenres show.:idunno:

Lesbians are more intelligent than the average person.Especially the bull dykes.

Funkin'
03-19-2012, 11:07 PM
tl;dr

Same

IdolEyes787
03-19-2012, 11:07 PM
Also please no one comment on how confusing that last post just was.

IdolEyes787
03-19-2012, 11:08 PM
I mean the last two posts.

Artemis
03-20-2012, 02:44 AM
tl;dr

What?

For someone of such vaunted intelligence, you didn't bother to use one of the copious search engines out there to find out what this forum staple means?

ffs, it is common on many fora, and is one of the many abbreviations used.

So since your massive intelligence didn't even deign to inquire, the abbreviation is: too long;didn't read. This doesn't mean that your essay was boring as fuck (which it was) just that it was unable to keep your readers attention.
It's alright you probably get this reaction quite a bit, have you thought of entering the priesthood? :blink:

mjmacky
03-20-2012, 03:54 AM
I'm just going to make an educated guess that Ellen Degenres is the white Oprah.

Before that she was a decent comedian.

anigav
03-20-2012, 04:50 AM
tl;dr

Same

+ 1

Quarterquack
03-20-2012, 04:55 AM
If I do all three better than you, do you think you won't get on Ellen?

Also, solving a rubik's cube is an algorithm which in speed competitions is limited by how coordinated your motor cortex is as opposed to how smart you are. It doesn't take longer than 30 seconds from a competent human. Since it's taking you 50, I'd go to the local hospital and tell them you suspect you're suffering from some kind of prolonged stroke.

Similarly multiplying large numbers is an algorithm. When it's 2 digit by 1 digit multliplication you only need to carry out three mental steps before you get to the answer. An actual gift would be doing it in 0 steps. I've met people that can't explain why they know what pi multiplied by itself is, but can recite it to 100 decimal places if need be.

manker
03-20-2012, 09:48 AM
:eyebrows:

I don't think you can do any of those three things better than he can, Darky. I think you wanted OP to admire you for skills you don't actually have. I think you seek external validation from faceless internets strangers.
If I'm wrong, which has infrequently been known, see this post (http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/446258-Does-This-Ability-Require-Normal-or-Above-Average-Intelligence?p=3661444&viewfull=1#post3661444) for what people who know that you have those skills equate with the time you spent honing them.

Quarterquack
03-20-2012, 10:06 AM
I think you seek external validation from faceless internets strangers.

Validation requires an object. I have presented you with nothing.

manker
03-20-2012, 10:30 AM
I think you seek external validation from faceless internets strangers.

Validation requires an object. I have presented you with nothing.
On the contrary, you have presented words. These words objectify you to your audience.
You truly would not exist in their world if you hadn't done so but now this is irrevocable.

These self-same words are the only way in which the reader can make judgements upon you.
For example, I used the sum total of inferences gleaned from your carefully considered prose and came to the conclusion that you were seeking external validation.

Which is quite sweet, in a way.

anigav
03-20-2012, 10:35 AM
I think you seek external validation from faceless internets strangers.

Validation requires an object. I have presented you with nothing.

Validation of nothing, how interesting. :ermm:

mjmacky
03-20-2012, 10:40 AM
Could someone validate my parking? I'm turning in for the moment.

anigav
03-20-2012, 10:50 AM
104049

IdolEyes787
03-20-2012, 10:52 AM
What?

For someone of such vaunted intelligence, you didn't bother to use one of the copious search engines out there to find out what this forum staple means?

ffs, it is common on many fora, and is one of the many abbreviations used.

So since your massive intelligence didn't even deign to inquire, the abbreviation is: too long;didn't read. This doesn't mean that your essay was boring as fuck (which it was) just that it was unable to keep your readers attention.
It's alright you probably get this reaction quite a bit, have you thought of entering the priesthood? :blink:

I didn't get it either and since I (rightly) assumed that it was something stupid didn't bother to Google the meaning until you inadvertently goaded me into it just now.Having done so I was moved to create my own internet abbreviation thingy ts;wib.

manker
03-20-2012, 10:54 AM
too stupid;wanking instead, bro

tmi;ie787

IdolEyes787
03-20-2012, 11:03 AM
too much information; internet explorer787

foyfc;awiaifo

Barbarossa
03-20-2012, 11:11 AM
Hello,


Recently out of curiosity I've learned pi to 120 digits and how to solve a rubik's cube (can solve it in ~50 seconds), and after seeing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUGjUCHSKLM) video (the same girl was elected to go on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to broadcast her ability) attempted to put them together but with an additional component, that being multiplying double digits numbers by single digit numbers (such as 97*8). So as I'm reciting 100 digit strings of pi consecutively, each in 15 second speed intervals, and solving the rubik's cube, I'm multiplying double digit numbers by single digit numbers. So, in theory, completing three mental tasks simultaneously. My question is: do you think being able to do this requires above average intelligence or do you think anyone of normal intelligence can do it? Most of the people commenting on the video I mentioned in which the girl balances books on her head while solving a rubik's cube and reciting pi to 100 digits claim that the girl possesses some kind of extraordinary talent, and being that she was selected to go on The Ellen Degenres Show it seems like it might be worth of some recognition. What do you think?Well, people learn Pi to thousands of decimal places, can solve Rubik's cubes in half the time and can multiply much, much, larger numbers.
So all you're doing is three mediocre things simultaneously. I think that most people could learn how to do that stuff given a few weeks training.

That's not to say if I saw you doing those things, I wouldn't be impressed. I would. But it's kinda like seeing a precocious 10 year old on Countdown get an eight letter word; you're initially impressed until you realise that he will probably remain a virgin forever.

Computers have learned pi to billions of decimal places, and can also solve the Rubik's cube almost instantaneously.

They also contain an endless supply of pornography....

Computers > All Ellen DeGeneres Show Guests > Metaphysic :smilie4:

manker
03-20-2012, 11:18 AM
I've never seen a computer solve a Rubik's cube.

If you've been developing computers with opposable thumbs again, barbie, I'm going to cut your stalking budget in half.
Those photobuckets aren't going to crack themselves.

Barbarossa
03-20-2012, 11:21 AM
Let me google that for you ... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=robot+solving+a+rubiks+cube

manker
03-20-2012, 11:42 AM
That's a robot, ffs.
Stop cheating. There is absolutely no way that robot can supply an endless supply of porn and I'd be surprised if it even knew what pi was.

Also, I re-found will it blend, which may well be my favourite jewtube thing evar :happy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrqHHBibRvs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx4QgK_xEfE&feature=relmfu

anigav
03-20-2012, 12:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EoAU9.jpg

Snee
03-20-2012, 05:24 PM
Hello,


Recently out of curiosity I've learned pi to 120 digits and how to solve a rubik's cube (can solve it in ~50 seconds), and after seeing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUGjUCHSKLM) video (the same girl was elected to go on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to broadcast her ability) attempted to put them together but with an additional component, that being multiplying double digits numbers by single digit numbers (such as 97*8). So as I'm reciting 100 digit strings of pi consecutively, each in 15 second speed intervals, and solving the rubik's cube, I'm multiplying double digit numbers by single digit numbers. So, in theory, completing three mental tasks simultaneously. My question is: do you think being able to do this requires above average intelligence or do you think anyone of normal intelligence can do it? Most of the people commenting on the video I mentioned in which the girl balances books on her head while solving a rubik's cube and reciting pi to 100 digits claim that the girl possesses some kind of extraordinary talent, and being that she was selected to go on The Ellen Degenres Show it seems like it might be worth of some recognition. What do you think?

I think that post requires below normal intelligence to be taken seriously. Don't really give a shit about the rest, other than that even my wastrel of a little brother is still way more clever than you and he learned how to do it (faster, and with more digits/decimals in pi) just to annoy people at parties or something.

Also, he doesn't watch Ellen.

Actually, that last bit is really the only evidence needed of his superiority.

Quarterquack
03-20-2012, 05:38 PM
On the contrary, you have presented words. These words objectify you to your audience.
You truly would not exist in their world if you hadn't done so but now this is irrevocable.

These self-same words are the only way in which the reader can make judgements upon you.
For example, I used the sum total of inferences gleaned from your carefully considered prose and came to the conclusion that you were seeking external validation.

Which is quite sweet, in a way.

Don't tell me you didn't see what I did there... :no:

1000possibleclaws
03-20-2012, 06:18 PM
@the OP - In my opinion the ability to think critically is worth more in terms of showing intelligence, than developing skills, which I guess is what you have done with the Rubik's Cube and in memorizing pi. Not sure how practical your new-found skills are so I don't see the connection.

manker
03-20-2012, 06:39 PM
On the contrary, you have presented words. These words objectify you to your audience.
You truly would not exist in their world if you hadn't done so but now this is irrevocable.

These self-same words are the only way in which the reader can make judgements upon you.
For example, I used the sum total of inferences gleaned from your carefully considered prose and came to the conclusion that you were seeking external validation.

Which is quite sweet, in a way.

Don't tell me you didn't see what I did there... :no:Completely missed it and there is no way I did so to fit my own wordular ends.

I'm not Mary.
I have an agenda :smilie4:

Squeamous
03-20-2012, 07:32 PM
Hello,


Recently out of curiosity I've learned pi to 120 digits and how to solve a rubik's cube (can solve it in ~50 seconds), and after seeing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUGjUCHSKLM) video (the same girl was elected to go on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to broadcast her ability) attempted to put them together but with an additional component, that being multiplying double digits numbers by single digit numbers (such as 97*8). So as I'm reciting 100 digit strings of pi consecutively, each in 15 second speed intervals, and solving the rubik's cube, I'm multiplying double digit numbers by single digit numbers. So, in theory, completing three mental tasks simultaneously. My question is: do you think being able to do this requires above average intelligence or do you think anyone of normal intelligence can do it? Most of the people commenting on the video I mentioned in which the girl balances books on her head while solving a rubik's cube and reciting pi to 100 digits claim that the girl possesses some kind of extraordinary talent, and being that she was selected to go on The Ellen Degenres Show it seems like it might be worth of some recognition. What do you think?

I read an article on this In New Scientist Psychology quite recently. The whole issue was on multi-tasking. This is apparently a very rare skill and most people are not able to do it. People who can are often in professions like fighter plane pilots or top-end chefs. There is in most people a finite 'working memory' with which they can devote attention. You can divide the available mental resources to any number of tasks but you will probably not do very well in any. By all accounts this is not something that can be learned: you either have it or you don't, and very few people do. I think it was around 5% of the population. Perhaps you have found your calling?

On the subject of intelligence, that's a more difficult question. Nobody really knows what that is. I would say it's the ability of your brain to help you succeed in life. It's 'fitness for purpose' I guess. You could be great at multitasking, but if all you ever use it for is doing puzzles simultaneously what use is it? Perhaps someone with more drive and direction would not be able to multitask but be able to apply themselves to a career whioch broadens their personal and financial horizons. So what defines intelligence isn't that simple imo.

Snee
03-20-2012, 09:32 PM
One definition of intelligence would be enough common sense to not start this thread, in this lounge, for someone who'd been a member here for five years.

Unless, of course, it's out and out trolling.

Other than that, I wonder about how keeping three things in working memory or whatebar at once can be that special, really. It seems to me that the tricky thing would be to go for a fourth or fifth. It's always been my understanding that there's where the limit is.

Metaphysic
03-20-2012, 10:28 PM
I'd like to know where you make the connection between intelligence & being on the Ellen Degenres show.


Just that it received enough attention to be broadcasted nationally. Not necessarily intelligence, but "talent", or just any positive ability that would warrant global attention.




I would expect someone of "superior intelligence" to be able to write something interesting, and not so repetitive. The Rubiks cube was an '80's fad and long since fallen from the limelight. And everyone reading this has access to some form of computer which can calculate pi as far out sa one would wish.


Your talents are irrelevant. So is Ellen Degenres.


I wasn't asking for criticism of my rhetoric, but of the specified abilities. My talents are irrelevant to what? If not many people can perform the task(s), then it's relevant to my ability to do so. You have to be accepted to perform on the Ellen Degeneres Show, so in terms of "talent", it's not irrelevant.






For someone of such vaunted intelligence, you didn't bother to use one of the copious search engines out there to find out what this forum staple means?


ffs, it is common on many fora, and is one of the many abbreviations used.


So since your massive intelligence didn't even deign to inquire, the abbreviation is: too long;didn't read. This doesn't mean that your essay was boring as fuck (which it was) just that it was unable to keep your readers attention.
It's alright you probably get this reaction quite a bit, have you thought of entering the priesthood?


Yes, it was selfish of me to ask for a clarification without performing the necessary research, considering it's easy, but being that I'm not familiar with contemporary internet termonology, I wasn't sure whether the phrase had meaning or if it was being used to signify that I was "trolling".



If I do all three better than you, do you think you won't get on Ellen?


Also, solving a rubik's cube is an algorithm which in speed competitions is limited by how coordinated your motor cortex is as opposed to how smart you are. It doesn't take longer than 30 seconds from a competent human. Since it's taking you 50, I'd go to the local hospital and tell them you suspect you're suffering from some kind of prolonged stroke.


Similarly multiplying large numbers is an algorithm. When it's 2 digit by 1 digit multliplication you only need to carry out three mental steps before you get to the answer. An actual gift would be doing it in 0 steps. I've met people that can't explain why they know what pi multiplied by itself is, but can recite it to 100 decimal places if need be.


No. But that doesn't directly address my question, which is whether the ability to simultaneously juggle the specified activities requires an exclusive set of mental faculties or is conqeurable by anyone of average intelligence. I learned how to solve a rubik's cube about a week ago using the beginner's method. It's limited in terms of algorithms, so it's not used by speedsolvers. There are other methods of solving rubik's cubes that allow for shorter durations. However, they feature 80+ algorithms that you have to commit to memory.






I think that post requires below normal intelligence to be taken seriously. Don't really give a shit about the rest, other than that even my wastrel of a little brother is still way more clever than you and he learned how to do it (faster, and with more digits/decimals in pi) just to annoy people at parties or something.


Also, he doesn't watch Ellen.


Actually, that last bit is really the only evidence needed of his superiority.


I don't watch Ellen either. Cool assumption, though.






I read an article on this In New Scientist Psychology quite recently. The whole issue was on multi-tasking. This is apparently a very rare skill and most people are not able to do it. People who can are often in professions like fighter plane pilots or top-end chefs. There is in most people a finite 'working memory' with which they can devote attention. You can divide the available mental resources to any number of tasks but you will probably not do very well in any. By all accounts this is not something that can be learned: you either have it or you don't, and very few people do. I think it was around 5% of the population. Perhaps you have found your calling?


On the subject of intelligence, that's a more difficult question. Nobody really knows what that is. I would say it's the ability of your brain to help you succeed in life. It's 'fitness for purpose' I guess. You could be great at multitasking, but if all you ever use it for is doing puzzles simultaneously what use is it? Perhaps someone with more drive and direction would not be able to multitask but be able to apply themselves to a career whioch broadens their personal and financial horizons. So what defines intelligence isn't that simple imo.


I should've termed it "talent" instead of "intelligence", or rather anything that, like you stated, is rare to the general public. I already know that I have above average intelligence (if you want to view it from the realm of IQ), because I've scored high on several legitimate IQ tests, but I'm not certain whether this is correlated to my ability to juggle tasks (if it's an ability at all... from the research that I've conducted it seems as though it is).



One definition of intelligence would be enough common sense to not start this thread, in this lounge, for someone who'd been a member here for five years.


Unless, of course, it's out and out trolling.


Other than that, I wonder about how keeping three things in working memory or whatebar at once can be that special, really. It seems to me that the tricky thing would be to go for a fourth or fifth. It's always been my understanding that there's where the limit is.


Sorry, I don't use this forum often. I was looking for a message board to post on, but was too lazy to sign up, and remembered that I have a membership here. My next attempt is to perform the tasks while riding my bike without handlebars, which will equate four. I would try it with a unicycle but I don't have one.

IdolEyes787
03-20-2012, 10:34 PM
My next attempt is to perform the tasks while riding my bike without handlebars, which will equate four. I would try it with a unicycle but I don't have one.

You mean "riding a bike without holding onto the handlebars". A regular bike devoid of handlebars would be next to impossible to get going.

megabyteme
03-20-2012, 11:19 PM
I would expect someone of "superior intelligence" to be able to write something interesting, and not so repetitive. The Rubiks cube was an '80's fad and long since fallen from the limelight. And everyone reading this has access to some form of computer which can calculate pi as far out as one would wish.


Your talents are irrelevant. So is Ellen Degenres.


I wasn't asking for criticism of my rhetoric, but of the specified abilities. My talents are irrelevant to what? If not many people can perform the task(s), then it's relevant to my ability to do so. You have to be accepted to perform on the Ellen Degeneres Show, so in terms of "talent", it's not irrelevant.

From what I've seen, the show you are droning on about caters to an audience who survive on Kraft Mac & Cheese, are in the 30+ age bracket, have not seen the last class in high school, and would like to know who fathered their child(ren). Impressing them with "amazing" talents like making all the sides on a Rubik's cube the same color, or memorizing a number out beyond its usefulness (trivia) won't get you laid, yet alone make you famous.

Although you may try "dazzling" the interviewer the next time you seek employment. They may jump you straight to fry cook instead of lot boy. Good luck!

Squeamous
03-21-2012, 01:17 AM
Why is everyone being so nasty? He's asking valid questions. Him being able to do something cool doesn't diminish you in any way.

megabyteme
03-21-2012, 01:28 AM
Why is everyone being so nasty? He's asking valid questions. Him being able to do something cool doesn't diminish you in any way.

1. There really hasn't been anything cool about being able to solve a Rubik's cube since 1985.

2. There's barely anything noteworthy about the extended digits of pi since the invent of the PC.

3. This is The Lounge, not Letterman's "Stupid Pet Tricks".

His "talents" are only slightly above "I can smash a beer can on my forehead", or "drive on the freeway with my eyes closed".


1. Tough crowd.
2. Lame ass "talents".

I invite him to return when he becomes interesting.

manker
03-21-2012, 01:39 AM
Why is everyone being so nasty? He's asking valid questions. Him being able to do something cool doesn't diminish you in any way.I said I would be impressed and didn't get a reply.
The nasty people did.

Being nasty is cool and it makes you popular on the internets.

Artemis
03-21-2012, 09:07 AM
Why is everyone being so nasty? He's asking valid questions. Him being able to do something cool doesn't diminish you in any way.I said I would be impressed and didn't get a reply.
The nasty people did.

Being nasty is cool and it makes you popular on the internets.

My reply was only mildly nasty, but based on a genuine amazement that someone would not research an abbreviation, particularly after 2 separate people concurred with Skiz assessment, to which I received the rather facile reply that they are not up on contemporary internet terminology. The fact that forums and the general layout and abbreviations have been with us since FidoNet and the beginnings of the internet sort of astounds me in it's ignorance.
The nasty part was saying the essay was boring as fuck, maybe I could have couched it in less flagrant language, but the basic fact is it was boring as fuck, and being nice about how dull it was was really doing said poster a disservice.
Really nasty would have involved various aspersions about the posters lineage, sexual orientation, physical prowess and general ability to swim unaided in the gene pool.

Snee
03-21-2012, 09:15 AM
Why is everyone being so nasty? He's asking valid questions. Him being able to do something cool doesn't diminish you in any way.

How is what amounts to "I saw a child do two things at once on Ellen (which I don't watch), but I can do three things at once, am I not special?" a valid question?



I mean, if mary did the same thing I'd just laugh, which is about the same thing I always do when he goes on about being clevar. If mary2 did it, I might fall asleep.

Owait, the child does three things at once as well.

manker
03-21-2012, 10:05 AM
I was doing a spot of modulating the other day and noticed in an old thread that Mary2 is religious.
It was just an inference but unmistakable. I arched one eyebrow and went about my business.

===

The above post is about transparency.

Squeamous
03-21-2012, 11:30 AM
Well I think there's small minded petty jealousy at work here. I think being able to say Pi or whatever and do a Rubik's cube puzzle and that other thing he just said he can do all at once is pretty impressive. It's not useful, but then neither are you lot for the most part.

Squeamous
03-21-2012, 11:32 AM
I said I would be impressed and didn't get a reply.
The nasty people did.

Being nasty is cool and it makes you popular on the internets.

Only if it's witty. If you're nasty just because you're scared someone might think they're cleverer than you and you can't prove they're not, you're just a macho dick.

manker
03-21-2012, 12:00 PM
I said I would be impressed and didn't get a reply.
The nasty people did.

Being nasty is cool and it makes you popular on the internets.

Only if it's witty. If you're nasty just because you're scared someone might think they're cleverer than you and you can't prove they're not, you're just a macho dick.
104181

I'm usually in the black, sometimes in the purple, my best work is done when sepia comes into play and makes me wonder what would happen if I ever ventured into white territory.

Pretty sure I've never tried mauve but I used to be in the pink a lot. Recently, though, I've come to realise that I'm much brighter than internets people.

megabyteme
03-21-2012, 01:05 PM
Only if it's witty. If you're nasty just because you're scared someone might think they're cleverer than you and you can't prove they're not, you're just a macho dick.
104181

I'm usually in the black, sometimes in the purple, my best work is done when sepia comes into play and makes me wonder what would happen if I ever ventured into white territory.

Pretty sure I've never tried mauve but I used to be in the pink a lot. Recently, though, I've come to realise that I'm much brighter than internets people.

Coincidentally, I have one testicle tattooed blue; one black.* Sephia is for pussies. :01:


*Found a tattoo artist willing to work cheap when I was 8. The left one is Papa Smurf, the right one Black Beauty. How was I to know popular children's shows would change? Was rather pleased to see the Smurfs come back in fashion recently...

manker
03-21-2012, 01:20 PM
:ermm:
Sir Christopher Venn will be absolutely distraught that you think his diagrams look like bawls.

Snee
03-21-2012, 01:23 PM
Well I think there's small minded petty jealousy at work here. I think being able to say Pi or whatever and do a Rubik's cube puzzle and that other thing he just said he can do all at once is pretty impressive. It's not useful, but then neither are you lot for the most part.
:idunno:

Like I said, I'm pretty sure most people are able to keep three things in working memory at once. At least I can. Right now I'm flipping back and forth between this post, coding, and doing other work-related stuff. And that about how it goes every workday. It does get mentally exhausting juggling several tasks, at least for me, but it's doable. I do know people who can't answer a question and code at once, but idfk if that makes them anything but different than me. Generally speaking I get bored a lot more than people who seemingly can't focus on more than one thing at once, due to me feeling understimulated, and being bored can end up being counterproductive.

That's not to say that I've done any analysis into whether I'm an orsum multitasker, I'd say that I need to keep my mind busy with several things in order to maintain maintain focus on any one, and that I'm decent at compartmentalizing, on a good day. If I ever thought much about how my brain works, I'd say I break stuff up into tiny pieces and seemingly solve several tasks simultaneously by advancing through each task piecemeal, rotating my focus through it, and that my mind tends to wander if there's lack of variety.

I've not memorized pi, tho, or formulated a system on how to solve a rubik's cube quickly (or looked one up on the internets), so that's two things I can't presently do. But like I said, I know someone earl who did it for shits and giggles, and I've yet to see it get useful, even when done all at once.

What annoyed me with this thread is that it looks like a) a bid for external validation, to borrow a phrase from my good friend mr manker mankersson esquire the first, and b) that it's kind of lazy work, all round.

manker
03-21-2012, 01:38 PM
sup, snee :happy:

I'd just like to go on record and say that I'm shite at multi-tasking. I have to focus completely on what I'm doing or I end up being unhappy with the results.
It's one of the reasons I don't use instant messaging now because I'm fucked if I can concentrate on two conversations and be engaging/funny/interested in both. Likewise if someone talks to me when I'm reading or watching a moviefilm, I have a small mental seizure and resort to a semi-feral state for a few seconds before re-reading/watching the bit they made me miss.

I often find myself in thrall when teh missus is cooking and talking on the phone at the same time. It's like magic.


I've never tried to hone this absent skill, preferring instead to work under the pretext that the results from my endeavours will be all the better for its continued neglect.

Artemis
03-21-2012, 01:56 PM
104181

I'm usually in the black, sometimes in the purple, my best work is done when sepia comes into play and makes me wonder what would happen if I ever ventured into white territory.

Pretty sure I've never tried mauve but I used to be in the pink a lot. Recently, though, I've come to realise that I'm much brighter than internets people.

Coincidentally, I have one testicle tattooed blue; one black.* Sephia is for pussies. :01:


*Found a tattoo artist willing to work cheap when I was 8. The left one is Papa Smurf, the right one Black Beauty. How was I to know popular children's shows would change? Was rather pleased to see the Smurfs come back in fashion recently...

Wonderful! now I have this mental image of you cruising around schools in loose fitting sweats, saying 'wanna see Papa Smurf?' :sick:

mjmacky
03-21-2012, 03:47 PM
*Found a tattoo artist willing to work cheap when I was 8. The left one is Papa Smurf, the right one Black Beauty. How was I to know popular children's shows would change? Was rather pleased to see the Smurfs come back in fashion recently...

Like one of your testicles, its return was an absolute travesty.

anigav
03-21-2012, 04:25 PM
Only if it's witty. If you're nasty just because you're scared someone might think they're cleverer than you and you can't prove they're not, you're just a macho dick.
104181

I'm usually in the black, sometimes in the purple, my best work is done when sepia comes into play and makes me wonder what would happen if I ever ventured into white territory.

Pretty sure I've never tried mauve but I used to be in the pink a lot. Recently, though, I've come to realise that I'm much brighter than internets people.

Something wrong, they are not mutually exclusive. Nasty is common for all three circles.

manker
03-21-2012, 04:44 PM
104181

I'm usually in the black, sometimes in the purple, my best work is done when sepia comes into play and makes me wonder what would happen if I ever ventured into white territory.

Pretty sure I've never tried mauve but I used to be in the pink a lot. Recently, though, I've come to realise that I'm much brighter than internets people.

Something wrong, they are not mutually exclusive. Nasty is common for all three circles.Just think of it as different types of nasty.
Like cars. They can be the same make but different models. People can own either an Audi TT or an Audi A4, both or neither.
It's all Audi but in the diagram, the circles will intersect but also be distinct.

I am aware that I've confused you even more now but I like to think that my explanation would be of use to readers who aren't quite so hard of thinking.

Quarterquack
03-21-2012, 05:01 PM
If mary2 did it, I might fall asleep.

Owait, the child does three things at once as well.

If I had a funny name for you, I'd say something like "Quote me on that, [insert]", but I don't, alas.


I was doing a spot of modulating the other day and noticed in an old thread that Mary2 is religious.
It was just an inference but unmistakable. I arched one eyebrow and went about my business.

Oh you found that? I keep thinking it's one of my best gems. It's hilarious what people will overlook when they're in a defensive state.

As for the multi-tasking theme, I'm more Sneelike. If I don't multi-task, I will lose focus on whatever it is I'm doing that's most important since my mind will find something to fixate on. I'm more impressed with Squeams not boasting. Way to be humble, considering your multi-tasking potential is 10:1 compared to the rest of us.

megabyteme
03-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Wonderful! now I have this mental image of you cruising around schools in loose fitting sweats, saying 'wanna see Papa Smurf?' :sick:


Like one of your testicles, its return was an absolute travesty.

The downside for you both, is that it is now 3-dimensional and stuck in your head. Don't forget to think about the grey beard. :shifty:

http://i40.tinypic.com/xblqmu.jpg

manker
03-21-2012, 05:23 PM
I was doing a spot of modulating the other day and noticed in an old thread that Mary2 is religious.
It was just an inference but unmistakable. I arched one eyebrow and went about my business.

Oh you found that? I keep thinking it's one of my best gems. It's hilarious what people will overlook when they're in a defensive state.
So it was disingenuous?

What's the point of saying that you're a Christian when you're not. It isn't as if it's that unusual and why would it have made a difference?

megabyteme
03-21-2012, 05:48 PM
Oh you found that? I keep thinking it's one of my best gems. It's hilarious what people will overlook when they're in a defensive state.
So it was disingenuous?

What's the point of saying that you're a Christian when you're not. It isn't as if it's that unusual and why would it have made a difference?

Still one of his "best gems".

manker
03-21-2012, 05:53 PM
So it was disingenuous?

What's the point of saying that you're a Christian when you're not. It isn't as if it's that unusual and why would it have made a difference?

Still one of his "best gems".:lol: :D

No argument there.

Quarterquack
03-21-2012, 06:07 PM
So it was disingenuous?

What's the point of saying that you're a Christian when you're not. It isn't as if it's that unusual and why would it have made a difference?

If I recall correctly, Squeams and I were arguing about monkeys. And someone came to her aide saying unless I was a scientist it wasn't my place to hold the argument.

I responded with the fact that I can't be a scientist since I'm christian. Everyone overlooked it, since they were in a defensive state (as opposed to an offensive one) and did not pick the pointer up to berate me about it.

I think I've been vocal about my lack of religion in Macky's atheism thread.

I have a weird taste for anti-humor. :idunno:

manker
03-21-2012, 06:13 PM
So it was disingenuous?

What's the point of saying that you're a Christian when you're not. It isn't as if it's that unusual and why would it have made a difference?

If I recall correctly, Squeams and I were arguing about monkeys. And someone came to her aide saying unless I was a scientist it wasn't my place to hold the argument.

I responded with the fact that I can't be a scientist since I'm christian. Everyone overlooked it, since they were in a defensive state (as opposed to an offensive one) and did not pick the pointer up to berate me about it.

I think I've been vocal about my lack of religion in Macky's atheism thread.

I have a weird taste for anti-humor. :idunno:I haven't seen the atheism thread.
It sounds interesting though.

The thing I read wasn't what you just wrote, though.
You mentioned doing some work for your church. People don't generally have a church unless they're religious.

Quarterquack
03-21-2012, 06:18 PM
The thing I read wasn't what you just wrote, though.
You mentioned doing some work for your church. People don't generally have a church unless they're religious.

Disagreed. I respect the Church, I just don't agree with what it stands for.

I volunteer at the Church regularly, because I see it as a communal socializing hall for the neighborhood. I help people with fundraisers, cook food for giveaways and help advertise the daycare. To me the Church is like a library without the books. People still go there asking for help with filing taxes, help with getting on the internets, help with driver's education etc. I help the community through the Church.

manker
03-21-2012, 06:32 PM
The thing I read wasn't what you just wrote, though.
You mentioned doing some work for your church. People don't generally have a church unless they're religious.

Disagreed. I respect the Church, I just don't agree with what it stands for.

I volunteer at the Church regularly, because I see it as a communal socializing hall for the neighborhood. I help people with fundraisers, cook food for giveaways and help advertise the daycare. To me the Church is like a library without the books. People still go there asking for help with filing taxes, help with getting on the internets, help with driver's education etc. I help the community through the Church.What. Help filing taxes! I'm glad that the churches around me don't get up to such shenanigans.

That you see the church as facebook for old people is great. It is completely dissimilar over here, however. Which may explain why it's fast fading here but appears to be stronger than ever over there.

There are church run youth-clubs in the evenings but I'm fairly sure that the majority of Welsh churches cater socially only for the people who go to bi-weekly sermons.
These people are old and are dying out quickly with no-one to replace them. I don't know a single person my age or younger who goes to church for anything other than funerals and the like.

chalice
03-21-2012, 08:34 PM
The thing I read wasn't what you just wrote, though.
You mentioned doing some work for your church. People don't generally have a church unless they're religious.

Disagreed. I respect the Church, I just don't agree with what it stands for.

I volunteer at the Church regularly, because I see it as a communal socializing hall for the neighborhood. I help people with fundraisers, cook food for giveaways and help advertise the daycare. To me the Church is like a library without the books. People still go there asking for help with filing taxes, help with getting on the internets, help with driver's education etc. I help the community through the Church.

Hey, Teacher, leave them kids alone.

mjmacky
03-21-2012, 10:33 PM
I haven't seen the atheism thread.
It sounds interesting though.

It wasn't interesting at all, I was trying to break up the monotony of Drawering Room non macky threads.


About the church thing, I went and volunteered at one of my old churches after I went agnostic. I drove one of the buses of homeless people we picked up in a central location in downtown and helped serve the meals. The price the homeless payed was being preached to for 2 hours about how God has a plan for them all. I thought I was OK with it, but after a while the concept was too much for me to humbly pay mind. I stopped going after rather negative feedback to my suggestion of having a separate dining area for those who didn't want a sermon. I would still donate my clothes there.

manker
03-21-2012, 10:36 PM
I haven't seen the atheism thread.
It sounds interesting though.

It wasn't interesting at all, I was trying to break up the monotony of Drawering Room non macky threads.You fuck. Those merkin politics threads are the lifeblood of this place.

megabyteme
03-21-2012, 11:13 PM
To me the Church is like a library without the books.

:blink:

manker
03-21-2012, 11:19 PM
I read that the first time and thought; 'wut' - but then I moved on because I was genuinely interested in the pretending to be a Christian thing.
Looking back at it now, I have to agree with the smilie choice of my esteemed colleague, mbm.

So, a church is like a huge empty room.
To Darky, like.

mjmacky
03-22-2012, 02:08 AM
I read that the first time and thought; 'wut' - but then I moved on because I was genuinely interested in the pretending to be a Christian thing.
Looking back at it now, I have to agree with the smilie choice of my esteemed colleague, mbm.

So, a church is like a huge empty room.
To Darky, like.

Most churches are nothing but big empty rooms with the exception of chairs or pews.

Artemis
03-22-2012, 04:48 AM
I read that the first time and thought; 'wut' - but then I moved on because I was genuinely interested in the pretending to be a Christian thing.
Looking back at it now, I have to agree with the smilie choice of my esteemed colleague, mbm.

So, a church is like a huge empty room.
To Darky, like.

Most churches are nothing but big empty rooms with the exception of chairs or pews.

So what would you describe a sports stadium as when the people aren't attending?

mjmacky
03-22-2012, 04:50 AM
Most churches are nothing but big empty rooms with the exception of chairs or pews.

So what would you describe a sports stadium as when the people aren't attending?

A meadow full of chairs.

mjmacky
03-22-2012, 04:51 AM
On second thought, I'm not sure you can fill a meadow, so exchange "full of" for "saturated with"

Artemis
03-22-2012, 05:04 AM
On second thought, I'm not sure you can fill a meadow, so exchange "full of" for "saturated with"

While pedantic, this did miss the point(s). The first point is stadia, or arena's if you will or any other large meeting area are big empty rooms when the people aren't there.
Secondly if you filled or saturated the meadow/stadium/arena with chairs it would fairly useless as any kind of sporting venue?

mjmacky
03-22-2012, 05:27 AM
On second thought, I'm not sure you can fill a meadow, so exchange "full of" for "saturated with"

While pedantic, this did miss the point(s). The first point is stadia, or arena's if you will or any other large meeting area are big empty rooms when the people aren't there.
Secondly if you filled or saturated the meadow/stadium/arena with chairs it would fairly useless as any kind of sporting venue?

Actually, I had erased the part where I said "I think you mean arena" before I realized how you asked your question.

Secondly, hardcore pro wrestling match, easy.

Artemis
03-22-2012, 05:45 AM
:glagpinch:

Squeamous
03-22-2012, 01:00 PM
sup, snee :happy:

I'd just like to go on record and say that I'm shite at multi-tasking. I have to focus completely on what I'm doing or I end up being unhappy with the results.
It's one of the reasons I don't use instant messaging now because I'm fucked if I can concentrate on two conversations and be engaging/funny/interested in both. Likewise if someone talks to me when I'm reading or watching a moviefilm, I have a small mental seizure and resort to a semi-feral state for a few seconds before re-reading/watching the bit they made me miss.

I often find myself in thrall when teh missus is cooking and talking on the phone at the same time. It's like magic.


I've never tried to hone this absent skill, preferring instead to work under the pretext that the results from my endeavours will be all the better for its continued neglect.

I don't know how anybody can do any of the following at the same time: talk/listen/read. My inability to do this was a constant source of irritation to my ex. He could play computer games and have a fully functional conversation with me, but if I was on the internet talking to you guys or reading something I wouldn't hear anything he said to me. I tried to explain that if he wanted a conversation with me he should say my name firmly and audibly and that would cause me to take note, extract my attention from what I was doing and turn it to him. He never got it though. I would suddenly become aware of a babbling noise and then realise he was in the middle of a conversation with me :(





Disagreed. I respect the Church, I just don't agree with what it stands for.

I volunteer at the Church regularly, because I see it as a communal socializing hall for the neighborhood. I help people with fundraisers, cook food for giveaways and help advertise the daycare. To me the Church is like a library without the books. People still go there asking for help with filing taxes, help with getting on the internets, help with driver's education etc. I help the community through the Church.What. Help filing taxes! I'm glad that the churches around me don't get up to such shenanigans.

That you see the church as facebook for old people is great. It is completely dissimilar over here, however. Which may explain why it's fast fading here but appears to be stronger than ever over there.

There are church run youth-clubs in the evenings but I'm fairly sure that the majority of Welsh churches cater socially only for the people who go to bi-weekly sermons.
These people are old and are dying out quickly with no-one to replace them. I don't know a single person my age or younger who goes to church for anything other than funerals and the like.

That's because we're not backwards fucks. Organised religion evolved to form a system of governance at a time when the majority of the population couldn't read and were even more prone to acts of random barbarism and sociopathy than today. As soon as societies became educated enough they formed alternatives to religion that didn't rely on fear and rote learning to control the population.
An advanced civilisation will find ways to be socially helpful and aware that don't have anything to do with churches. If you're an atheist or even agnostic, and you have anything to do with organised religion you're just prolonging its agony and validating it, and you don't have the balls to stand up and be counted.


About the church thing, I went and volunteered at one of my old churches after I went agnostic. I drove one of the buses of homeless people we picked up in a central location in downtown and helped serve the meals. The price the homeless payed was being preached to for 2 hours about how God has a plan for them all. I thought I was OK with it, but after a while the concept was too much for me to humbly pay mind. I stopped going after rather negative feedback to my suggestion of having a separate dining area for those who didn't want a sermon. I would still donate my clothes there.

Jesus, In the way the homeless are handled this reminds me of Down and Out in Paris and London (Orwell). That was set in the 1920s and 30s though.

Snee
03-22-2012, 01:42 PM
I can sort of understand, how dave nevar got it.

To me not being able do two things at once seems nigh on impossible, even tho I understand it intellectually.

manker
03-22-2012, 01:44 PM
Disagreed. I respect the Church, I just don't agree with what it stands for.

I volunteer at the Church regularly, because I see it as a communal socializing hall for the neighborhood. I help people with fundraisers, cook food for giveaways and help advertise the daycare. To me the Church is like a library without the books. People still go there asking for help with filing taxes, help with getting on the internets, help with driver's education etc. I help the community through the Church.What. Help filing taxes! I'm glad that the churches around me don't get up to such shenanigans.

That you see the church as facebook for old people is great. It is completely dissimilar over here, however. Which may explain why it's fast fading here but appears to be stronger than ever over there.

There are church run youth-clubs in the evenings but I'm fairly sure that the majority of Welsh churches cater socially only for the people who go to bi-weekly sermons.
These people are old and are dying out quickly with no-one to replace them. I don't know a single person my age or younger who goes to church for anything other than funerals and the like.

That's because we're not backwards fucks. Organised religion evolved to form a system of governance at a time when the majority of the population couldn't read and were even more prone to acts of random barbarism and sociopathy than today. As soon as societies became educated enough they formed alternatives to religion that didn't rely on fear and rote learning to control the population.
An advanced civilisation will find ways to be socially helpful and aware that don't have anything to do with churches. If you're an atheist or even agnostic, and you have anything to do with organised religion you're just prolonging its agony and validating it, and you don't have the balls to stand up and be counted.I do agree with the first paragraph. However, I think the church as an altruistic organisation could have a place in an advanced society such as ours. It's quite a fanciful notion, though, as its administrators will usually find a way to reward themselves disproportionately.

I take no issue at all with the majority of the teachings of the new testament. As a mission statement for a charitable organisation, it's as decent as any you might find elsewhere and remarkable for its far reaching objectives. Likewise I actually think that Mary1 and Mary2 helping their community out by donating their time, money or expertise to their local church is a particularly good thing in and of itself. As you point out though, they are helping indirectly to sustain organised religion - which is something that keeps me from doing the same thing.

It's only a personal point of view though. I think more of them now that I know they do it, even if I prefer to help my own community in a different way.

manker
03-22-2012, 01:53 PM
sup, snee :happy:

I'd just like to go on record and say that I'm shite at multi-tasking. I have to focus completely on what I'm doing or I end up being unhappy with the results.
It's one of the reasons I don't use instant messaging now because I'm fucked if I can concentrate on two conversations and be engaging/funny/interested in both. Likewise if someone talks to me when I'm reading or watching a moviefilm, I have a small mental seizure and resort to a semi-feral state for a few seconds before re-reading/watching the bit they made me miss.

I often find myself in thrall when teh missus is cooking and talking on the phone at the same time. It's like magic.


I've never tried to hone this absent skill, preferring instead to work under the pretext that the results from my endeavours will be all the better for its continued neglect.

I don't know how anybody can do any of the following at the same time: talk/listen/read. My inability to do this was a constant source of irritation to my ex. He could play computer games and have a fully functional conversation with me, but if I was on the internet talking to you guys or reading something I wouldn't hear anything he said to me. I tried to explain that if he wanted a conversation with me he should say my name firmly and audibly and that would cause me to take note, extract my attention from what I was doing and turn it to him. He never got it though. I would suddenly become aware of a babbling noise and then realise he was in the middle of a conversation with me :(fuck you and your taurean ways, piscean :fist:

Does this thing ever happen to you?
If I'm preoccupied and try to read, often my mind will wander to the thing I'm preoccupied about and even though I'm looking at the words and turning the pages, I'll suddenly snap out of it and realise that I haven't got a clue what I've been reading and have to go back and find where my mind spazzed out. Upon re-reading, I'll never feel any familiarity with the words on the page.

manker
03-22-2012, 02:00 PM
I can sort of understand, how dave nevar got it.

To me not being able do two things at once seems nigh on impossible, even tho I understand it intellectually.
She didn't mean Dave. You may be pre-aware of this :sly:
Btw, I find myself a complete authority on miss smack-tits' life and loves for the last 6 years.

Ask me anything.

Squeamous
03-22-2012, 02:32 PM
I do agree with the first paragraph. However, I think the church as an altruistic organisation could have a place in an advanced society such as ours. It's quite a fanciful notion, though, as its administrators will usually find a way to reward themselves disproportionately.

I take no issue at all with the majority of the teachings of the new testament. As a mission statement for a charitable organisation, it's as decent as any you might find elsewhere and remarkable for its far reaching objectives. Likewise I actually think that Mary1 and Mary2 helping their community out by donating their time, money or expertise to their local church is a particularly good thing in and of itself. As you point out though, they are helping indirectly to sustain organised religion - which is something that keeps me from doing the same thing.

It's only a personal point of view though. I think more of them now that I know they do it, even if I prefer to help my own community in a different way.

I don't know how organised religion could ever have a place in an advanced society. I'd be interested to hear your reasons why you think it could.

I agree with you about the New Testament - but it falls into line with what I was saying about religion being instigated as a system of governance. You want your population to stop eating measly pork and being generally unpleasant, but the problem is how are you going to tell them (they can't read), and how will you coerce them? Answer is shout it at them every Sunday/whatever heathen day it is for your chosen religion, and fabricate the concepts of heaven and hell. It's fantastic in its simplicity and effect. I don't know about you but I pretty much live by the ten commandments by choice now, not through fear of a pit full of fire, pointy sticks and Melanie Phillips raping me up the bum with a strap-on made of pure hatred. My dad said to me when I was little 'you don't have to believe Jesus was the son of God but if you follow his teachings you'll be alright', and I've tried to aim for that in as secular a way as I can.

As for Mary and Darth of Integrity, there's a reason they help the church. They want to be charitable but in a way that fits in with the people around them. It's just a basic lack of character or imagination. And they probably haven't thought about it like this, but they're sort of masquerading as sheep when they're really wolves, which isn't really fair to the real sheep.


fuck you and your taurean ways, piscean :fist:

Does this thing ever happen to you?
If I'm preoccupied and try to read, often my mind will wander to the thing I'm preoccupied about and even though I'm looking at the words and turning the pages, I'll suddenly snap out of it and realise that I haven't got a clue what I've been reading and have to go back and find where my mind spazzed out. Upon re-reading, I'll never feel any familiarity with the words on the page.

Yeah, I get distracted hella easy just like that. But then I blame it on what I'm reading for not being interesting enough and everything is right with the world once again :happy:


She didn't mean Dave. You may be pre-aware of this :sly:
Btw, I find myself a complete authority on miss smack-tits' life and loves for the last 6 years.

Ask me anything.

I have a question! How can I be 32 with so little to show for it? #existentialangst

chicagorox
03-22-2012, 05:26 PM
I always say that anything can be learned by anyone given the amount of effort and time put in. I wouldn't say that the girl has extraordinary talent, I would just say that she has enough time on her hands and interest in nerdy things. I love all of your existentialist points here though. Kudos

megabyteme
03-22-2012, 05:29 PM
I have a question! How can I be 32 with so little to show for it? #existentialangst

It just occurred to me that the only time men talk to 32 year-old women is online. Strange place this internets. :idunno:

Squeamous
03-22-2012, 05:33 PM
I have a question! How can I be 32 with so little to show for it? #existentialangst

It just occurred to me that the only time men talk to 32 year-old women is online. Strange place this internets. :idunno:

That's not true. I talk to men irl.

megabyteme
03-22-2012, 05:37 PM
It just occurred to me that the only time men talk to 32 year-old women is online. Strange place this internets. :idunno:

That's not true. I talk to men irl.

They are just being polite. Or want to buy smack. :mellow:

Squeamous
03-22-2012, 05:43 PM
That's not true. I talk to men irl.

They are just being polite. Or want to buy smack. :mellow:

Megabyteme told a funny!! :clap:

mjmacky
03-22-2012, 08:49 PM
As for Mary and Darth of Integrity, there's a reason they help the church. They want to be charitable but in a way that fits in with the people around them.

Eww gross what a perversion of the details. I don't help the church, I used to help the homeless en masse but it's been years since I've done that. You must have been talking to someone else or fingerbanging yourself when you were reading my post.

megabyteme
03-22-2012, 09:56 PM
You must have been talking to someone else or fingerbanging yourself when you were reading my post.

The thought of an aged woman fingering herself brings mixed emotions...:lookaroun

chalice
03-22-2012, 10:01 PM
You must have been talking to someone else or fingerbanging yourself when you were reading my post.

The thought of an aged woman fingering herself brings mixed emotions...:lookaroun

Today a survivor of the Dunblaine massacre was sentenced to 20 years for the attempted rape of an old age pensioner. Go figure.

Quarterquack
03-22-2012, 10:11 PM
That's because we're not backwards fucks. Organised religion evolved to form a system of governance at a time when the majority of the population couldn't read and were even more prone to acts of random barbarism and sociopathy than today. As soon as societies became educated enough they formed alternatives to religion that didn't rely on fear and rote learning to control the population.
An advanced civilisation will find ways to be socially helpful and aware that don't have anything to do with churches. If you're an atheist or even agnostic, and you have anything to do with organised religion you're just prolonging its agony and validating it, and you don't have the balls to stand up and be counted.

There's a time to stand for what you believe, and a time to wait for that time.

Everybody knows what the future holds for internet laws and copyright laws. My generation is pretty twisted when it comes to being self-entitled little bitches. SOPA/PIPA/ACTA etc. are all meaningless because by the time my generation stops being students and starts being the law makers we'll vote them out almost immediately.

Similarly with religion. Obviously religion has no place in a civilized, modern society. But I'm not about to alienate a subset of the population who needs valid help, simply because they choose to live in comfortable ignorance. I'd rather just wait a few years and watch religion eat itself away. I'm unaware of a single country where atheism is shunned politically currently, that has not dissociated into civil wars. Embracing logic and reason is something all societies are bound for. I'll let fit societies evolve, and help the old generation move on, while watching a better time get ushered in.

My standing against the herd now will do nothing, because religion is still important to a vast majority. In a few years generations upon generations of people who grew up in secular classrooms, chatting on the secular internet, and consuming secular media are going to realize how pointless it is to vote politicians for religious reasons, and that's the minute the world will change for the better, with no part for me in its doing.


As for Mary and Darth of Integrity, there's a reason they help the church. They want to be charitable but in a way that fits in with the people around them. It's just a basic lack of character or imagination. And they probably haven't thought about it like this, but they're sort of masquerading as sheep when they're really wolves, which isn't really fair to the real sheep.

I'm very vocal about being atheist in my community. I don't go around with a sign, but when asked I give a straight answer. Even the priests at my Church know that I'm an atheist. I don't masquerade or hide what I am, and if my local Church ever believes that they are better off without me, I will gladly volunteer at the local hospital, the local library, or start working for Red Cross. This isn't about me being unimaginative. It's about me growing up in a certain environment, seeing the amount of good a Church can do for someone, and knowing that I want to be part of that. I'm not sure if you and Chavis are serious about your Heroin addiction, but not too long ago the Church was a viable place to get treatment and seek help for these things, and to this day many Churches will still take people off the streets and make sure they have something better off in their lives when leaving than when they came in.

Just because you and I are strong enough to curb addiction on our own, and need no external moral compass, doesn't mean we should exclude everyone beneath us from the benefits of our lifestyles (whether by knowledge, health or otherwise).

chalice
03-22-2012, 10:21 PM
I'm not sure if you and Chavis are serious about your Heroin addiction, but not too long ago the Church was a viable place to get treatment and seek help for these things, and to this day many Churches will still take people off the streets and make sure they have something better off in their lives when leaving than when they came in.

Just because you and I are strong enough to curb addiction on our own, and need no external moral compass, doesn't mean we should exclude everyone beneath us from the benefits of our lifestyles (whether by knowledge, health or otherwise).

:glag:

That is all.

Quarterquack
03-22-2012, 10:22 PM
:glag:

That is all.

Meanie.

:no:

chalice
03-22-2012, 10:26 PM
:glag:

That is all.

Meanie.

:no:

Sucker.

:no:

Quarterquack
03-22-2012, 10:28 PM
Sucker.

:no:

Oh, you think so?

:shifty:

chalice
03-22-2012, 10:29 PM
Yeah, what ev's.

mjmacky
03-22-2012, 10:30 PM
I used to be addicted to internet porn, but I don't seem to be anymore. I think I broke my addiction. I'm strong.

Quarterquack
03-22-2012, 10:51 PM
I used to be addicted to internet porn, but I don't seem to be anymore. I think I broke my addiction. I'm strong.

I used to be addicted to being superior to people, but with the help of the mighty lord using his Church as an ark of resolution, I can say my life is better now.

IdolEyes787
03-22-2012, 10:53 PM
I used to be addicted to internet porn, but I don't seem to be anymore. I think I broke my addiction. I'm strong.

Or at least your wrist is.

Quarterquack
03-22-2012, 10:54 PM
I used to be addicted to internet porn, but I don't seem to be anymore. I think I broke my addiction. I'm strong.

Or at least your wrist is.

His wrist is addicted to internet porn? His wrist broke his addiction? His wrist is strong?

Ambiguity, thou art the enemy of hilarity!

manker
03-22-2012, 11:00 PM
Or at least your wrist is.

His wrist is addicted to internet porn? His wrist broke his addiction? His wrist is strong?

Ambiguity, thou art the enemy of hilarity!Not quite with you there. Given my pre-knowledge about Idol's propensity for body building and his oft-aired opinion of Mary's internet debauchery, it was obvious that wrist strength was the message.

Idol's sexuality remains the only discernible ambiguity here.

chalice
03-22-2012, 11:04 PM
'Discernible ambiguity'. I like it.

I have no fucking idea what the fuck it means, but I like it.

IdolEyes787
03-22-2012, 11:05 PM
Or at least your wrist is.

His wrist is addicted to internet porn? His wrist broke his addiction? His wrist is strong?

Ambiguity, thou art the enemy of hilarity!

So is over-thinking and more pointedly a lack of a sense of humour.
Btw I ran into The Great Gazoo today ,mistook him for you and pummeled the fuck out of him.

manker
03-22-2012, 11:06 PM
'Discernible ambiguity'. I like it.

I have no fucking idea what the fuck it means, but I like it.
It shouldn't work. Not at all.

But I think it does.

Quarterquack
03-22-2012, 11:07 PM
Not quite with you there. Given my pre-knowledge about Idol's propensity for body building and his oft-aired opinion of Mary's internet debauchery, it was obvious that wrist strength was the message here.

By a process of elimination based on tense "wrist is" as opposed to a past tense, addiction is out of the pool. Eliminating based on verb "wrist is" as opposed to "wrist did" you can easily disregard the breaking the habit part.

I gave Idol the benefit of the doubt, and assumed his grammar isn't up to the level it needs to be add to avoid ambiguity, though. We can't expect change overnight. :idunno:

chalice
03-22-2012, 11:07 PM
'Discernible ambiguity'. I like it.

I have no fucking idea what the fuck it means, but I like it.
It shouldn't work. Not at all.

But I think it does.

In this case it does. It does indeed. :smilie4:

Quarterquack
03-22-2012, 11:08 PM
Btw I ran into The Great Gazoo today ,mistook him for you and pummeled the fuck out of him.

I'm impressed with the fact that you think you have the potential to maintain knowledge of me by name in such a situation. I thought pummeling involved dehumanizing the subject? :no:

manker
03-22-2012, 11:17 PM
Not quite with you there. Given my pre-knowledge about Idol's propensity for body building and his oft-aired opinion of Mary's internet debauchery, it was obvious that wrist strength was the message here.

By a process of elimination based on tense "wrist is" as opposed to a past tense, addiction is out of the pool. Eliminating based on verb "wrist is" as opposed to "wrist did" you can easily disregard the breaking the habit part.

I gave Idol the benefit of the doubt, and assumed his grammar isn't up to the level it needs to be add to avoid ambiguity, though. We can't expect change overnight. :idunno:If Snee's approach to grammar is a laser guided Carlos the Jackal sniper rifle with extra lasers mounted on the laser attachment, then Idol is the Gatling gun.

He knows he's missing, he knows your retinae are going to be torn to shreds, he knows he can take his 642CT out of his man-bag and hit the bullseye each time.
Idol just likes to spray it around :mellow:

chalice
03-22-2012, 11:23 PM
By a process of elimination based on tense "wrist is" as opposed to a past tense, addiction is out of the pool. Eliminating based on verb "wrist is" as opposed to "wrist did" you can easily disregard the breaking the habit part.

I gave Idol the benefit of the doubt, and assumed his grammar isn't up to the level it needs to be add to avoid ambiguity, though. We can't expect change overnight. :idunno:If Snee's approach to grammar is a laser guided Carlos the Jackal sniper rifle with extra lasers mounted on the laser attachment, then Idol is the Gatling gun.

He knows he's missing, he knows your retinae are going to be torn to shreds, he knows he can take his 642CT out of his man-bag and hit the bullseye each time.
Idol just likes to spray it around :mellow:

Let me just break it to the downs, Darthy.

In a roundabout fashion, he's intimating that despite your grandstanding, you're ultimately an exceptionally boring kinda guy.

manker
03-22-2012, 11:49 PM
I do agree with the first paragraph. However, I think the church as an altruistic organisation could have a place in an advanced society such as ours. It's quite a fanciful notion, though, as its administrators will usually find a way to reward themselves disproportionately.

I take no issue at all with the majority of the teachings of the new testament. As a mission statement for a charitable organisation, it's as decent as any you might find elsewhere and remarkable for its far reaching objectives. Likewise I actually think that Mary1 and Mary2 helping their community out by donating their time, money or expertise to their local church is a particularly good thing in and of itself. As you point out though, they are helping indirectly to sustain organised religion - which is something that keeps me from doing the same thing.

It's only a personal point of view though. I think more of them now that I know they do it, even if I prefer to help my own community in a different way.

I don't know how organised religion could ever have a place in an advanced society. I'd be interested to hear your reasons why you think it could.

I agree with you about the New Testament - but it falls into line with what I was saying about religion being instigated as a system of governance. You want your population to stop eating measly pork and being generally unpleasant, but the problem is how are you going to tell them (they can't read), and how will you coerce them? Answer is shout it at them every Sunday/whatever heathen day it is for your chosen religion, and fabricate the concepts of heaven and hell. It's fantastic in its simplicity and effect. I don't know about you but I pretty much live by the ten commandments by choice now, not through fear of a pit full of fire, pointy sticks and Melanie Phillips raping me up the bum with a strap-on made of pure hatred. My dad said to me when I was little 'you don't have to believe Jesus was the son of God but if you follow his teachings you'll be alright', and I've tried to aim for that in as secular a way as I can.I don't recall my parents ever mentioning the bible, in fact the realisation that the bible wasn't just a ridiculous piece of literature and that Jesus was a real chap with some good ideas only became apparent to me at about 23 or 24.

So. This is how I think it could work:

Brands are everything and like it or not, the church is a powerful brand which inspires trust in many people. No other charitable organisation is in a position to do as much good as the church is if only it was properly run.

I wouldn't have any problem at all with them continuing their sermons and offering spiritual advice to those that felt they needed it but how it could really fit in is if the spiritual side of it married properly with pragmatic assistance of a tangible sort to victims of our advanced society.
If the church branched out properly and provided, for example, rehabilitation for drug addicts or near to free childcare for single parents between nine and five or solace for battered wives or temporary accommodation for the homeless on a large scale, then it could positively and enormously benefit the community and the economy.

To do this its objectives would have to change considerably. It would have to be properly administered and it would need to report and be accountable to the local council initially and Downing Street as a national entity. I envisage tax payers partially funding these schemes after several years of managing to be self-sufficient. Due to it already being completely trusted as an entity by so many, the lion's share of the funding would come from a suggested donation level in return for use of its services. Some would abuse this but most would see the good it's doing and temper their financial reciprocation accordingly.

I could definitely write loads, but that would be akin to anaesthesia.
Suffice is to say that the church has the potential to be a veritable benevolent behemoth that would fit quite nicely into an advanced society and help sticking-plaster many of its inevitable wounds.

IdolEyes787
03-22-2012, 11:53 PM
tl;dr

manker
03-23-2012, 12:03 AM
I just read you in the atheist thread. You'd start talking about god being real because hope is real or something equally girly or gay or worse.

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 12:06 AM
What I think churches should do today...

Isn't the Catholic church the richest international organization in the world? How about it starts doing all that shit without accepting any more donations? They could hold financially for at least several decades I think.

Quarterquack
03-23-2012, 12:16 AM
Isn't the Catholic church the richest international organization in the world?

They're only rich in non-liquid assets like land ownership. Sure they can sell the land, but then they'd lose the opportunity to expand or collect lease should they ever require to do so in the future.
The fear of irrelevance.

:rolleyes:

manker
03-23-2012, 12:27 AM
I don't know how rich it is or how liquid its assets are, but that isn't the point.

It has to be sustainable or it's shit.
Having said that, donating some of its property portfolio and selling off a few chattels that only hardcore religious cognoscenti have heard of would help with all the setting up.

IdolEyes787
03-23-2012, 12:27 AM
I just read you in the atheist thread. You'd start talking about god being real because hope is real or something equally girly or gay or worse.

I didn't think there was anything worse than being girly or gay.
Also for future reference I don't mean most of the stuff I say here ,the above sentence and anything hateful being the obviously exceptions.

chalice
03-23-2012, 12:28 AM
I don't know how organised religion could ever have a place in an advanced society. I'd be interested to hear your reasons why you think it could.

I agree with you about the New Testament - but it falls into line with what I was saying about religion being instigated as a system of governance. You want your population to stop eating measly pork and being generally unpleasant, but the problem is how are you going to tell them (they can't read), and how will you coerce them? Answer is shout it at them every Sunday/whatever heathen day it is for your chosen religion, and fabricate the concepts of heaven and hell. It's fantastic in its simplicity and effect. I don't know about you but I pretty much live by the ten commandments by choice now, not through fear of a pit full of fire, pointy sticks and Melanie Phillips raping me up the bum with a strap-on made of pure hatred. My dad said to me when I was little 'you don't have to believe Jesus was the son of God but if you follow his teachings you'll be alright', and I've tried to aim for that in as secular a way as I can.I don't recall my parents ever mentioning the bible, in fact the realisation that the bible wasn't just a ridiculous piece of literature and that Jesus was a real chap with some good ideas only became apparent to me at about 23 or 24.

So. This is how I think it could work:

Brands are everything and like it or not, the church is a powerful brand which inspires trust in many people. No other charitable organisation is in a position to do as much good as the church is if only it was properly run.

I wouldn't have any problem at all with them continuing their sermons and offering spiritual advice to those that felt they needed it but how it could really fit in is if the spiritual side of it married properly with pragmatic assistance of a tangible sort to victims of our advanced society.
If the church branched out properly and provided, for example, rehabilitation for drug addicts or near to free childcare for single parents between nine and five or solace for battered wives or temporary accommodation for the homeless on a large scale, then it could positively and enormously benefit the community and the economy.

To do this its objectives would have to change considerably. It would have to be properly administered and it would need to report and be accountable to the local council initially and Downing Street as a national entity. I envisage tax payers partially funding these schemes after several years of managing to be self-sufficient. Due to it already being completely trusted as an entity by so many, the lion's share of the funding would come from a suggested donation level in return for use of its services. Some would abuse this but most would see the good it's doing and temper their financial reciprocation accordingly.

I could definitely write loads, but that would be akin to anaesthesia.
Suffice is to say that the church has the potential to be a veritable benevolent behemoth that would fit quite nicely into an advanced society and help sticking-plaster many of its inevitable wounds.

I didn't read that. Not a word.

However I respect that you took the time to write it, you knob, you.

manker
03-23-2012, 12:29 AM
Yes. I'm conveniently ignoring all the different branches of the church that wouldn't merge to form this super-benevolent organisation.

I'm looking past that, I can't believe you brought it up, actually.

manker
03-23-2012, 12:31 AM
I just read you in the atheist thread. You'd start talking about god being real because hope is real or something equally girly or gay or worse.

I didn't think there was anything worse than being girly or gay.
Also for future reference I don't mean most of the stuff I say here ,the above sentence and anything hateful being the obviously exceptions.Wasn't that thread from the before time when you were in your taking myself srsly phase?

I wasn't around for it but I hear it's a good thing you grew out of it <3

chalice
03-23-2012, 12:36 AM
I didn't think there was anything worse than being girly or gay.
Also for future reference I don't mean most of the stuff I say here ,the above sentence and anything hateful being the obviously exceptions.Wasn't that thread from the before time when you were in your taking myself srsly phase?

I wasn't around for it but I hear it's a good thing you grew out of it <3

Yes, it was a six month affair. The lounge was the lounge. It took Idol six months to rylise that. He's one of the ones I felt sorry for. He showed clear intelligence, but he got stuck in the mud to some extent. He cleared it by deciding to himself that he shouldn't give a fuck. Let's have a round of applause for Idol.

It only took him a year.

manker
03-23-2012, 12:44 AM
Wasn't that thread from the before time when you were in your taking myself srsly phase?

I wasn't around for it but I hear it's a good thing you grew out of it <3

Yes, it was a six month affair. The lounge was the lounge. It took Idol six months to rylise that. He's one of the ones I felt sorry for. He showed clear intelligence, but he got stuck in the mud to some extent. He cleared it by deciding to himself that he shouldn't give a fuck. Let's have a round of applause for Idol.

It only took him a year.A six month affair that took him a year, you say.
I'm glad he snapped out of it, I'd have no truck with timebending Torontarians.

chalice
03-23-2012, 12:47 AM
Yes, it was a six month affair. The lounge was the lounge. It took Idol six months to rylise that. He's one of the ones I felt sorry for. He showed clear intelligence, but he got stuck in the mud to some extent. He cleared it by deciding to himself that he shouldn't give a fuck. Let's have a round of applause for Idol.

It only took him a year.A six month affair that took him a year, you say.
I'm glad he snapped out of it, I'd have no truck with timebending Torontarians.

Did I say a year? I meant nevar, like.

Artemis
03-23-2012, 12:58 AM
tl;dr

It's just so fucking handy innit? Aren't you just tickled pink that I goaded you into doing that bit of research. :01:

IdolEyes787
03-23-2012, 01:05 AM
tl;dr

It's just so fucking handy innit? Aren't you just tickled pink that I goaded you into doing that bit of research. :01:

Before I answer which would you prefer the truth or feeling that you've accomplished something?

Artemis
03-23-2012, 01:15 AM
Options, options, options..... should I suffer the rather brutal mercies of a diabolical master debator, or carry on in my simpleminded ignorance?

I'll have option B thanx. :blink:


(got my favorite smilie back kthxbai)

megabyteme
03-23-2012, 02:06 AM
Recap of last 5 pages:

Idol is girly with an amazingly strong wrist
Art started trouble
Manker said something long
Someone else said something long-winded and wanted attention. Didn't get it.
Chalice won. Whatever it was.

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 02:36 AM
Manker said something long
Someone else said something long-winded and wanted attention.

Aren't these the same thing? It's like saying I speak Spanish & Mexican.

megabyteme
03-23-2012, 02:42 AM
Manker said something long
Someone else said something long-winded and wanted attention.

Aren't these the same thing? It's like saying I speak Spanish & Mexican.

Manker didn't do it in such a pathetically needy way.

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 02:54 AM
Manker didn't do it in such a pathetically needy way.

There are also long posts by Cicero and Darth Squeamous. I didn't read them to figure out which one you were talking about. You need to vet out the whole thread a little more before you write a review, otherwise over-thinkers like myself will spin like tops until I ricochet off in some odd direction upon hitting a barrier.

Snee
03-23-2012, 07:59 AM
I'd not read that until you quoted it. He could mean mine I suppose, if he's shit at subtext, as well as bad at chronology :idunno:

Watebar, rly.

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 09:10 AM
I'd not read that until you quoted it. He could mean mine I suppose, if he's shit at subtext, as well as bad at chronology :idunno:

Watebar, rly.

Yet another mistake by me, I didn't scroll up far enough to see yours Darth Snee.

Squeamous
03-23-2012, 10:04 AM
Let me just break it to the downs, Darthy.

In a roundabout fashion, he's intimating that despite your grandstanding, you're ultimately an exceptionally boring kinda guy.

I don't think he's boring, I think he probably does tend to lean back with his eyes closed when he talks though, so you can count every single one of his nostril hairs.


I don't recall my parents ever mentioning the bible, in fact the realisation that the bible wasn't just a ridiculous piece of literature and that Jesus was a real chap with some good ideas only became apparent to me at about 23 or 24.

So. This is how I think it could work:

Brands are everything and like it or not, the church is a powerful brand which inspires trust in many people. No other charitable organisation is in a position to do as much good as the church is if only it was properly run.

I wouldn't have any problem at all with them continuing their sermons and offering spiritual advice to those that felt they needed it but how it could really fit in is if the spiritual side of it married properly with pragmatic assistance of a tangible sort to victims of our advanced society.
If the church branched out properly and provided, for example, rehabilitation for drug addicts or near to free childcare for single parents between nine and five or solace for battered wives or temporary accommodation for the homeless on a large scale, then it could positively and enormously benefit the community and the economy.

To do this its objectives would have to change considerably. It would have to be properly administered and it would need to report and be accountable to the local council initially and Downing Street as a national entity. I envisage tax payers partially funding these schemes after several years of managing to be self-sufficient. Due to it already being completely trusted as an entity by so many, the lion's share of the funding would come from a suggested donation level in return for use of its services. Some would abuse this but most would see the good it's doing and temper their financial reciprocation accordingly.

I could definitely write loads, but that would be akin to anaesthesia.
Suffice is to say that the church has the potential to be a veritable benevolent behemoth that would fit quite nicely into an advanced society and help sticking-plaster many of its inevitable wounds.

No, this is just awful! The church can't be wheedled into coming around to a secular way of doing things while still maintaining its dogma. Once it does that it stops being what it once was. It can't even be prevailed upon to accept the relationships of people who love each other (and to be honest neither should it), let alone being a benevolent force for good. It is absolutely incompatible with the future of humanity. It needs to be taken out back, have its ears hacked off and fucking shot.



There are also long posts by Cicero and Darth Squeamous. I didn't read them to figure out which one you were talking about. You need to vet out the whole thread a little more before you write a review, otherwise over-thinkers like myself will spin like tops until I ricochet off in some odd direction upon hitting a barrier.

:yikes:

manker
03-23-2012, 10:12 AM
Once it does that it stops being what it once wasDerp.

I'm the man to do this, I've got the skillz, i've thought it thro' for a wee while and I'm taking on new clients. I'd give them a stark choice; fitting in or fucking off.
Would have to stop posting here so much though, probably.

Squeamous
03-23-2012, 10:36 AM
Once it does that it stops being what it once wasDerp.

I'm the man to do this, I've got the skillz, i've thought it thro' for a wee while and I'm taking on new clients. I'd give them a stark choice; fitting in or fucking off.
Would have to stop posting here so much though, probably.

I prefer to impose distinctions and boundaries to make decisive, logical decisions.

You're more flexible and prefer to dance in the grey areas.

We might agree on general principles but we'll never be able to agree on topics like this.

Snee
03-23-2012, 10:50 AM
Maybe you could meet in the middle.

Let's call it the ecru areas.

manker
03-23-2012, 11:15 AM
:lol:

I would, I'd meet in the middle and compromise the fuck out of my ideals because it's the only way to get stuff done.
Who cares if people still revere magic if it means that the aids babies of Lincolnshire can get their weaning methadone fix.

IdolEyes787
03-23-2012, 11:50 AM
Idol is girly with an amazingly strong wrist


I had to exercise my wrist because it was previously so limp I had difficulty using cutlery.

Squeamous
03-23-2012, 11:53 AM
I'm afraid ecru isn't really my colour :smilie4:


:lol:

I would, I'd meet in the middle and compromise the fuck out of my ideals because it's the only way to get stuff done.
Who cares if people still revere magic if it means that the aids babies of Lincolnshire can get their weaning methadone fix.

The biggest single contributor to world health is Bill Gates. As far as I know his foundation has no religious affiliations. Mother Theresa was of the opinion that poverty and suffering was godly in itself, except of course when it came to her own suffering.
Organised religion is sick and perverse. It's an illness the world needs to be cured of not given palliative care until it croaks.

manker
03-23-2012, 12:01 PM
Organised religion is sick and perverse. It's an illness the world needs to be cured of not given palliative care until it croaks.We can change that. You and me. Croaking won't be necessary if we can quietly swap its mercenary masters with altruistic administrators.
We can turn the trust it invokes in millions of the citizens of our advanced society into direct assistance for the needy.

All it would take is a small stick and carrot chat with its current leaders and quietly turn them into a tourist attraction, like parliament did with the monarchy.

Squeamous
03-23-2012, 01:11 PM
We can change that. You and me. Croaking won't be necessary if we can quietly swap its mercenary masters with altruistic administrators.
We can turn the trust it invokes in millions of the citizens of our advanced society into direct assistance for the needy.

All it would take is a small stick and carrot chat with its current leaders and quietly turn them into a tourist attraction, like parliament did with the monarchy.

I luuuurve the monarchy :happy:
Ok, sold. They're mostly only symbolic in this country anyway. When they're not raping boys and contributing to the spread of AIDS.

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 01:27 PM
Anybody still daydream about having superpowers? You know, when I was a lad I would use the powers to impress girls and get girls to show me their privates. Now when I daydream about it, I think about how I would crush the catholic church and direct global economic policies and national governments to a more logical and benevolent agenda.

manker
03-23-2012, 01:32 PM
h5, sista.

Don't worry about the aids spreading and the rapey ministers. In our new secular church, you get prophylactics at the door and the altar boys only get bummed if they make the first move.

manker
03-23-2012, 01:37 PM
Anybody still daydream about having superpowers? You know, when I was a lad I would use the powers to impress girls and get girls to show me their privates. Now when I daydream about it, I think about how I would crush the catholic church and direct global economic policies and national governments to a more logical and benevolent agenda.Would you need your superpowaz all the time for that though.

Subtly altering agendas would be my prime objective but I'd still occasionally use them to get girls to show me their privates and stuff.

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 01:52 PM
Anybody still daydream about having superpowers? You know, when I was a lad I would use the powers to impress girls and get girls to show me their privates. Now when I daydream about it, I think about how I would crush the catholic church and direct global economic policies and national governments to a more logical and benevolent agenda.Would you need your superpowaz all the time for that though.

Subtly altering agendas would be my prime objective but I'd still occasionally use them to get girls to show me their privates and stuff.

Considering the referenced age of the girls I was talking about, glad to welcome you into the pedo ring. To be world dictator and crush everyone's hopes in being able to overturn your decisions, damn right I'd need the superpower stuff for that. In my daydreams, I have a specific power and a manner in which it manifests, I just never gave myself a name, seems like it'd be gay to do that.

manker
03-23-2012, 02:06 PM
Would you need your superpowaz all the time for that though.

Subtly altering agendas would be my prime objective but I'd still occasionally use them to get girls to show me their privates and stuff.

Considering the referenced age of the girls I was talking about, glad to welcome you into the pedo ring. To be world dictator and crush everyone's hopes in being able to overturn your decisions, damn right I'd need the superpower stuff for that. In my daydreams, I have a specific power and a manner in which it manifests, I just never gave myself a name, seems like it'd be gay to do that.RIF :angry: :01: :angry:

I know you'd need them for that, I asked if you'd need them all of the time. Like if it would be a continuous and concerted effort which would leave no time for scantily clad schoolgirls.

chalice
03-23-2012, 02:42 PM
h5, sista.

Don't worry about the aids spreading and the rapey ministers. In our new secular church, you get prophylactics at the door and the altar boys only get bummed if they make the first move.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F2TVvt2On0

chalice
03-23-2012, 02:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8OlD6w1rto&amp;feature=related

manker
03-23-2012, 02:53 PM
h5, sista.

Don't worry about the aids spreading and the rapey ministers. In our new secular church, you get prophylactics at the door and the altar boys only get bummed if they make the first move.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F2TVvt2On0That's the first time I've clicked a jewtube link embedded on fst for ages.
And I was right to do so :smilie4:

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 03:18 PM
RIF :angry: :01: :angry:

I know you'd need them for that, I asked if you'd need them all of the time. Like if it would be a continuous and concerted effort which would leave no time for scantily clad schoolgirls.

Resistance is futile?

I stopped daydreaming school girls, my super persona only focuses on world politics, he doesn't even sleep. You're making it sound fucking sad man, shut the fuck up.

Artemis
03-23-2012, 03:20 PM
RIF :angry: :01: :angry:

I know you'd need them for that, I asked if you'd need them all of the time. Like if it would be a continuous and concerted effort which would leave no time for scantily clad schoolgirls.

Resistance is futile?

I stopped daydreaming school girls, my super persona only focuses on world politics, he doesn't even sleep. You're making it sound fucking sad man, shut the fuck up.

It's alright, he made me sound like a librarian last week. :swear:

mjmacky
03-23-2012, 04:47 PM
Resistance is futile?

I stopped daydreaming school girls, my super persona only focuses on world politics, he doesn't even sleep. You're making it sound fucking sad man, shut the fuck up.

It's alright, he made me sound like a librarian last week. :swear:

Once in awhile, the primer and top layer come off and we all find out who the true sexual deviant is.

Squeamous
03-23-2012, 04:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F2TVvt2On0

It's no Brasseye but it'll do.

manker
03-23-2012, 05:12 PM
It's alright, he made me sound like a librarian last week. :swear:

Once in awhile, the primer and top layer come off and we all find out who the true sexual deviant is.She sent you pics of her tits as well.
FFS.

I think it's because you and Idol are older than me that you get the sexy time preferential treatment.

IdolEyes787
03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
Once in awhile, the primer and top layer come off and we all find out who the true sexual deviant is.She sent you pics of her tits as well.
FFS.

I think it's because you and Idol are older than me that you get the sexy time preferential treatment.

Older? I thought you were like 70 but suffering from a Peter Pan complex?

manker
03-23-2012, 05:34 PM
You're just timebending again. Typical Torontarian.

I do indeed plan upon doing that though in the dim and distant future. But you knew that.

mjmacky
03-24-2012, 01:21 AM
I think it's because you and Idol are older than me that you get the sexy time preferential treatment.

I never assumed older or younger. Let's see if we can figure it out. Does the number that represents your age in terms of years of post natal life start with 2, 3 or 4?

Artemis
03-24-2012, 03:20 AM
I think it's because you and Idol are older than me that you get the sexy time preferential treatment.

I never assumed older or younger. Let's see if we can figure it out. Does the number that represents your age in terms of years of post natal life start with 2, 3 or 4?

We are talking about time, or rather age as a sexual stimulant to Squeamous here i.e. middle aged = good, young, dumb and full of cum = ungood (as in kicked to the kerb, brushed off like yesterdays bruschetta.......I could go on but you get the picture).
I take it one of the main reasons for this attraction to older males is that the chloroform hits them quicker so there is less of a struggle, when they finally piss her off enough to dig up another flagstone on the patio.

mjmacky
03-24-2012, 06:19 AM
I never assumed older or younger. Let's see if we can figure it out. Does the number that represents your age in terms of years of post natal life start with 2, 3 or 4?

We are talking about time, or rather age as a sexual stimulant to Squeamous here i.e. middle aged = good, young, dumb and full of cum = ungood (as in kicked to the kerb, brushed off like yesterdays bruschetta.......I could go on but you get the picture).
I take it one of the main reasons for this attraction to older males is that the chloroform hits them quicker so there is less of a struggle, when they finally piss her off enough to dig up another flagstone on the patio.

I was just looking for clues to see if manker is my junior or senior since he brought it up. But yeah, I guess that too.

Snee
03-24-2012, 10:06 AM
Only if it's witty. If you're nasty just because you're scared someone might think they're cleverer than you and you can't prove they're not, you're just a macho dick.
104181

I'm usually in the black, sometimes in the purple, my best work is done when sepia comes into play and makes me wonder what would happen if I ever ventured into white territory.

Pretty sure I've never tried mauve but I used to be in the pink a lot. Recently, though, I've come to realise that I'm much brighter than internets people.
Generally 50/50 Black/Purple. Too arrogant for pink.

Generally speaking, I get more laughs in purple. It gets more convoluted when I'm only trying to amuse myself.


Couldn't see the image the other day.



edit: Purple is the ball to the lower right, right? I don't do nuances too well.

manker
03-24-2012, 12:08 PM
I think it's because you and Idol are older than me that you get the sexy time preferential treatment.

I never assumed older or younger. Let's see if we can figure it out. Does the number that represents your age in terms of years of post natal life start with 2, 3 or 4?a three.
I know Idol is older than me cus he keeps talking observationally about things that that I can't remember. I assume you're older than me cus you're a teacher and every teacher I know is older than me. Even my son's teachers. Plus you looked older on the pics.

manker
03-24-2012, 12:10 PM
104181

I'm usually in the black, sometimes in the purple, my best work is done when sepia comes into play and makes me wonder what would happen if I ever ventured into white territory.

Pretty sure I've never tried mauve but I used to be in the pink a lot. Recently, though, I've come to realise that I'm much brighter than internets people.
Generally 50/50 Black/Purple. Too arrogant for pink.

Generally speaking, I get more laughs in purple. It gets more convoluted when I'm only trying to amuse myself.


Couldn't see the image the other day.



edit: Purple is the ball to the lower right, right? I don't do nuances too well.Yup.

And I am much too ... not arrogant ... but comfortable in my sphere of knowledge to be pink anymore. Altho' I must admit that when I was new here, I ventured into the pink.
I can't think of any examples off-hand though.

mjmacky
03-24-2012, 01:32 PM
a three.
I know Idol is older than me cus he keeps talking observationally about things that that I can't remember. I assume you're older than me cus you're a teacher and every teacher I know is older than me. Even my son's teachers. Plus you looked older on the pics.

I don't currently teach, I work an analytical instrument facility on campus. Also, you seem to be unaware that I'm a currently grad student. I'm expecting to be a doctor by November.

manker
03-24-2012, 01:46 PM
a three.
I know Idol is older than me cus he keeps talking observationally about things that that I can't remember. I assume you're older than me cus you're a teacher and every teacher I know is older than me. Even my son's teachers. Plus you looked older on the pics.

I don't currently teach, I work an analytical instrument facility on campus. Also, you seem to be unaware that I'm a currently grad student. I'm expecting to be a doctor by November.Well doctors are also always older than me.
All the best for your finals :]

And a currently grad student. I'd type wtf to that but after yesterday's revelations, I assume it's a typo induced by concurrent fapping.

mjmacky
03-24-2012, 01:53 PM
I don't currently teach, I work an analytical instrument facility on campus. Also, you seem to be unaware that I'm a currently grad student. I'm expecting to be a doctor by November.Well doctors are also always older than me.
All the best for your finals :]

And a currently grad student. I'd type wtf to that but after yesterday's revelations, I assume it's a typo induced by concurrent fapping.

I went back and added currently, just in the wrong spot. Also, the appropriate term is dissertation defense.

manker
03-24-2012, 01:58 PM
w.e.
Don't get persnickerty with me just because you're a mature student and don't get the same social opportunities as your peers.

mjmacky
03-24-2012, 02:36 PM
w.e.
Don't get persnickerty with me just because you're a mature student and don't get the same social opportunities as your peers.

If you jumped through all the same hoops that I've been jumping through, you wouldn't let anyone reduce it to "finals" either.

P.S. Have stored beer next to refrigerated samples and solutions, that trumps all.

manker
03-24-2012, 03:35 PM
w.e.
Don't get persnickerty with me just because you're a mature student and don't get the same social opportunities as your peers.

If you jumped through all the same hoops that I've been jumping through, you wouldn't let anyone reduce it to "finals" either.

P.S. Have stored beer next to refrigerated samples and solutions, that trumps all.That is pretty damn impressive :smilie4:

Note I didn't change the quote name to 'Mary' this time.

megabyteme
03-24-2012, 04:09 PM
DrMary has a nice ring to it... :)

manker
03-24-2012, 04:11 PM
I for one think it fantastic that we are soon to be having a doctress in our midst.

megabyteme
03-24-2012, 04:15 PM
I for one think it fantastic that we are soon to be having a doctress in our midst.

It'll be handy for when any of us get a cold, or a mysterious rash, or something else.

Artemis
03-24-2012, 04:34 PM
I for one think it fantastic that we are soon to be having a doctress in our midst.

It'll be handy for when any of us get a cold, or a mysterious rash, or something else.

When you get a mysterious rash.....you're twitching and scratching as I type, and something else is a hippie, he hates doctors.

megabyteme
03-24-2012, 04:41 PM
and something else is a hippie, he hates doctors.

I believe the term is, "likes to self-medicate".

Squeamous
03-24-2012, 06:11 PM
I never assumed older or younger. Let's see if we can figure it out. Does the number that represents your age in terms of years of post natal life start with 2, 3 or 4?

We are talking about time, or rather age as a sexual stimulant to Squeamous here i.e. middle aged = good, young, dumb and full of cum = ungood (as in kicked to the kerb, brushed off like yesterdays bruschetta.......I could go on but you get the picture).
I take it one of the main reasons for this attraction to older males is that the chloroform hits them quicker so there is less of a struggle, when they finally piss her off enough to dig up another flagstone on the patio.

Wait, what? I assumed when Manky was referring to 'she' he meant Mary.
Why you little tykes! :fist:

Squeamous
03-24-2012, 06:15 PM
Anyway! Contrary to popular belief I don't only fancy the middle aged. It's just that men usually aren't worth my while until they're over 35. But it's really horses for courses. I don't know what I want until I see it, and what I want changes as often as the cement around my patio slabs.

mjmacky
03-29-2012, 06:24 AM
Wait, what? I assumed when Manky was referring to 'she' he meant Mary.
Why you little tykes! :fist:

You sneaky dyke, I don't have tits.