Would You Buy Hp Or Compaq?

[mooseman2070]

i may buy an hp or compaq notebook because theyt are one of the few manufacturers who put amds in thir PCs. is there any other comapny (LOW-PRICE, NOT VOODOO) who puts AMDs n their notebooks? could i buy an intel notebook and put an AMD in it?

[3RA1N1AC]

Would You Buy Hp Or Compaq?
no.

i buy an intel notebook and put an AMD in it?
no.

depending on what you need it for, an HP or Compaq may be okay for you... but on the other hand you may end up finding out that you're getting screwed on something like the quality of the motherboard or audio/video, or that the Windows installation is bloated with useless junk that you don't want AND they don't give you a "vanilla" Windows CD to reinstall with (i.e. if you use their "restore" CDs, it just puts all the crap you don't want back into the hard drive).

the "you get what you pay for" rule kinda applies. if you buy cheap, you get cheap, and there's prolly gonna be something wrong with it that you don't notice until you really decide to start poking around in it. if you're going to buy HP or Compaq, i would recommend that you at least get hold of a pirated copy of Windows 2000 or Windows XP so that you can install a plain, unaltered copy of Windows when the pre-installed one inevitably goes haywire.

[mooseman2070]

could i buy/download a total restore program? norton cean sweep?

[Darth Sushi]

Geez, I thought HP had a merger with Compaq a few years ago. ;)

[mooseman2070]

they did, im just saying "hp or compaq" because they dont have a name for both of them

[Darth Sushi]

Historically, low price notebooks don't use mobile cpu. They're usually desktop chips. When I lived in Texas, my company will not buy AMD notebooks because of the extreme hot weather. We had some bad experiences. But for indoor and mild climate use, it should suffice. Tomshardware has a video of what happens when you remove the cpu fans. The AMD cpus were all destroyed along with some of the MBs. The intel chips just frozed but worked again when the fans were replaced.

[SciManAl]

yeah i have to agree, as much as i am a fan of AMD, for labtops i would go with the qaulity of a intel and the low power usage

(sumtimes my money tree isn't working, usually i just say to myself "why buy crapp that i "need" now when it will break down in a month or two and i have to buy a new one, while i could have saved up and bought the nicer one..."

your choice, but i would go P4(also known as P$ hehehe look at your keyboard) :P for a labtop...

however if you are truly money tight then try out the new e-machine labtops, really cheap, pretty nice qaulity...

[mooseman2070]

ok, scimanal, weve had this discussion before: im not the emachine type

someone mayve told me before, but what can you upgrade on an hp/compaq/ or any other notebook

p.s.: i live in georgia and i would barely use it outside, im looking towards using i in my bed,on the couch, in the car, etc. id only use it outside unless it was a real nice day.

im getting an AMD because of low price and how i know thety can go fast. it will only be a 2500+

i dont want to get an intel because i dont want a celeron since im strapt for cash. if there is a huge drop when the 3.4 extreme edition comes out i may reconsider

[Keikan]

Would i buy a compaq or hp invent hmm i would buy:

[Haz]

I don't know about compaq but as for an HP, well they're good but, just pray you don't run into a problem or something, they're help and support areas suck :angry:

[Livy]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@17 November 2003 - 19:41

Would You Buy Hp Or Compaq?
no.

i buy an intel notebook and put an AMD in it?
no.

depending on what you need it for, an HP or Compaq may be okay for you... but on the other hand you may end up finding out that you're getting screwed on something like the quality of the motherboard or audio/video, or that the Windows installation is bloated with useless junk that you don't want AND they don't give you a "vanilla" Windows CD to reinstall with (i.e. if you use their "restore" CDs, it just puts all the crap you don't want back into the hard drive).

the "you get what you pay for" rule kinda applies. if you buy cheap, you get cheap, and there's prolly gonna be something wrong with it that you don't notice until you really decide to start poking around in it. if you're going to buy HP or Compaq, i would recommend that you at least get hold of a pirated copy of Windows 2000 or Windows XP so that you can install a plain, unaltered copy of Windows when the pre-installed one inevitably goes haywire.
i have to add this is not true, i have a compaq laptop, and sure the restore cvd putrs extra stuff on the laptop, btu its only drivers, and other apps to do witht the laptop, but i also got a windows cd aswell, without all the stuff on it, and a seperate drivers cd. i am totally happy with my compaq laptop.

athlon 1500, 320mb ram, 20gb hdd, and nothing went wrong.

[3RA1N1AC]

if they've changed their practices, that's great. the one time i bought a compaq, it did not have a Windows cd, and none of my friends who owned compaqs ever had windows cds. the restore cds came with utter garbage pre-installed, and littered the desktop with links to ISPs and whatnot (i.e. advertisments). this was pre-merger, though, and the only thing worse than a compaq Windows installation was an eMachines one.

[mooseman2070]

thanks, im just trying to get different opinionshere is what im looking to buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1063225034960&skuId=6028773&type=product)

[mooseman2070]

3RA1N1AC:same thing with me, before they merged i got a presario and it screwed up. we had to get thwe restore cd and its pretty much the same story. windows was preinstalled and everything

my mom has an old(around '97-'99) pavilon. she has crappy specs but its running fine. i hope hp makes compaq more like them. hp seems to be the "leader" or w/e you call it of the merger

[h121589]

Originally posted by mooseman2070@17 November 2003 - 16:17
i may buy an hp or compaq notebook because theyt are one of the few manufacturers who put amds in thir PCs. is there any other comapny (LOW-PRICE, NOT VOODOO) who puts AMDs n their notebooks? could i buy an intel notebook and put an AMD in it?
wtf is the difference bcuz hp makes compaqs

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by h121589@18 November 2003 - 16:15
wtf is the difference bcuz hp makes compaqs
for starters, there's the official description of what the difference is. i doubt you'll bother to read it since you seem to have made up your mind already that there is no difference.

but i'll link it anyway.

http://news.com.com/2100-1003-1013837.html

[mooseman2070]

yeah i know hp and compaq have differences but im sorta leaning towards compaq

[mooseman2070]

o man im such a jackass! what the thread title meant was hp or compaq as one brand. not choose between them. im not sure if this changes peoples views

[3RA1N1AC]

eh, it's prolly nearly the same thing. i just posted that 'cause h121589 had an attitude.

[mooseman2070]

yeah he did. but that article didnt tell much. im stil leaning towards compaq. the hp/compaq amd one at best buy are the exact same except the hp has corel quattro software and compaq has microsoft works.

should i go for compaq or hp? can i use window washer and just get works from warez sites?

[3RA1N1AC]

Window Washer sounds like a superficial cleaning program. if the computer comes with any "junk" software running in the background, you'll prolly just have to figure out what it is and disable it manually, for example use run -> msconfig.exe to go through the start menu and trim down the amount of stuff that's running at startup (Windows doesn't require most programs that insert themselves into the startup list).

as for your concern about bundled software-- you might wanna have a look around on eDonkey and see what's easier to get hold of. that network is a little bit slow, but it's pretty reliable for getting hold of large warez files.

i dunno enough about current HP/Compaq models to comment on which is actually better, though.

[Smith]

wouldnt buy either, non of em r any good. mabye for companys that buy hundreds a year, but ill stick 2 my custom guy in downtown toronto.

[mooseman2070]

the thing is canuk...i live in atlanta. ive heard good things about canada though :D

[justin_9733]

Originally posted by SciManAl@17 November 2003 - 16:42
yeah i have to agree, as much as i am a fan of AMD, for labtops i would go with the qaulity of a intel and the low power usage

your choice, but i would go P4(also known as P$ hehehe look at your keyboard) :P for a labtop...

however if you are truly money tight then try out the new e-machine labtops, really cheap, pretty nice qaulity...
called a laptop

[h121589]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+19 November 2003 - 00:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 19 November 2003 - 00:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-h121589@18 November 2003 - 16:15
wtf is the difference bcuz hp makes compaqs
for starters, there&#39;s the official description of what the difference is. i doubt you&#39;ll bother to read it since you seem to have made up your mind already that there is no difference.

but i&#39;ll link it anyway.

http://news.com.com/2100-1003-1013837.html [/b][/quote]
i dont got time 2 read dat long shit

[h121589]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC@19 November 2003 - 20:52
eh, it&#39;s prolly nearly the same thing. i just posted that &#39;cause h121589 had an attitude.
i didnt have a attitude

[bigdawgfoxx]

I dont like HP or Compaq. Dell is good and so is gateway. My friends Sony notebook is also very nice.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by h121589@20 November 2003 - 15:41
i didnt have a attitude
yeah you did (and do).

[mooseman2070]

thanks. sorry my messages got seperated the one beow is what i meant to post

[mooseman2070]

im not going towards gateway or sony. maybe ill look at dells.

what would be the best company if i want a notebook that will last around 5 years?

[The Real Santa]

Originally posted by Keikan@18 November 2003 - 02:50
Would i buy a compaq or hp invent hmm i would buy:
me too

[bigdawgfoxx]

I would say Dell with an AWESOME 4 year warranty...that way your garanteed to have it at least 4 years ;) . But I dont know if you mean it will still have good performance in 4 years, or you want it to last 4 years. You prob wont get a laptop that will still have good performance in 4 years sept maybe an alienware or voodo, or very high end notebook which are very exspensive. Dell is great....I know from exsperiance.

[mooseman2070]

ok biddawg, what do you reccomend? i want ot have at least 512 ram, 40 gb, cdrw/dvd, and i dont want celeron. also my budget is about 1500

[bigdawgfoxx]

Inspiron 5150 (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V602&l=en&oc=5150SAP&s=dhs) This has a 3.0 Ghz P4&#33;&#33;, 512MB of ram, 40 GB HD, and a CD RW/DVD combo drive. All for 1482. Only a 1 year warranty though, heres one with a slightly slower CPU but better warranty, depending on what you want, this might be better. Dimension 5100 (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&kc=6V601&l=en&oc=5100SAP&s=dhs). Has the exact same stuff as the one above, except a 2.8Ghz P4, BUT it has a 3 year warranty...cost 1,501. Sorry bout going over a dollar haha

Hmmm ok the links dont take you to the custom ones I put together. Just put 512MB and the CPU i listed and stuff...and you will get a good price.

[mooseman2070]

ok that 2nd one sounds good. im looking for at least 3 year warranty (like the second) and accidental damage (for at least 3 years). i know dell has 4 year warranty.

im looing on hp.com to see how much an amd would cost with their best warranty

[mooseman2070]

mkay now 1646 w/ 100 rebates for....

amd 2500+
xp home
2x256 ddr sdram
60 gb 4200 rpm hdd
microsoft works/money
dvd/cdrw
56k/802.11b lan (wi fi)
15&#39;&#39; tft xga lcd (1024x768)
ati mobility radeon
3 year express warranty/accidental damage

;) -_- not sure if its a good deal, maybe even exensive. but it does have the warranty. that warranty is at least 300. i cant check because my computer is too slow

[mooseman2070]

i got it&#33; the warranty is 349.99

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok, the 2.8Ghz P4 would whoop the 2500..although I love the the 2500. And Dell is a much better name and every HP laptop I have seen has kinda sucked...clogged with shit and slow and breaks...I would go with the second Dell. Trust me you will love it.

[mooseman2070]

ok. im still saving up money and that will take a while

[bigdawgfoxx]

Alright I see. Thats kinda how I am except i have the money im just waiting till after christmas. Conclusion: buy the Dell with the "slower" CPU 2.8 and get the 3 year warranty. Trust me...you will love it. DONT get the HP

[mooseman2070]

i dunno dude... im still tempted to get that 3.0 ghz. im sure my dad could pay for the warranty so he doesnt have to get a new pc every 2 years :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

Sounds good to me. Get the 3.0Ghz and the 3 year warranty

[mooseman2070]

CRAP&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; dude you get a digital camera AND an all in one printer?&#33; dude i may be gettin a dell&#33;

[mooseman2070]

ok it has everything i want: 60 gb hd,dvd/cdrw,802.11b,4 year accidentaldamage, 3 year warranty, man dude i hope i can get my money in time

all for 2168...almost twice what i wanted to spend but itll last till 2008

ps:know any good coupon codes?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah I thought you knew you got all that awesome stuff lol. Yeah get the Dell just keep saving. They always have great deals and stuff.

[mooseman2070]

yeah and by the time i get my &#036;&#036;&#036; (hopefully near christmas) therell be lots of sales and extra rebates

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yep. Worked out good for you&#33; Have fun man...and no i dont know any coupon codes.

[adamp2p]

search dell coupon codes on google&#33; You&#39;ll find what you are looking for&#33;

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/googleisyourfriend.gif (http://www.google.com)

[mooseman2070]

Originally posted by adamp2p@22 November 2003 - 18:55
search dell coupon codes on google&#33; You&#39;ll find what you are looking for&#33;

http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/smilies/googleisyourfriend.gif (http://www.google.com)
i did. i came over my laziness and found some. they wernet good though. most of em were for small businesses only.

there was one for a free 2nd battery though...

[mooseman2070]

now im not sure if i should make a new thread but should i get plain old P4 3.06 or P4 3.06 w/ HT fro &#036;100 bucks more??

[bigdawgfoxx]

I didnt know they made 3.0 Ghz non HT....newayz The upgrade for HT is only 50 dollars more. I would think it would be better...im not sure if its worth 50 bux though...