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rushalipatekar
04-30-2012, 11:39 AM
i have an problem regarding my pc, when i start pc, pc starts normally after 5 min it shutdowns automatically, what will be the problem

IdolEyes787
04-30-2012, 11:52 AM
Faulty power supply or overheating?

ckrit
04-30-2012, 11:58 AM
That's very little information, and I can't really say for sure.

Off the top of my head, my two first guesses would be:

*Either an actual overheat, or a busted temp sensor showing too high temps, leading to a forced bios-level shutdown. Check your temps.

*If you're running windows, you've managed to kill the rpc service, or you've got a virus that's done it. Check so remote procedure call shows as running, and automatic in the list of services. (Get there quickly through Run > Services.msc). Or try a live cd of some kind, knoppix fex, and see if it still shuts down when you're running another os.

Artemis
04-30-2012, 12:46 PM
That's very little information, and I can't really say for sure.

Off the top of my head, my two first guesses would be:

*Either an actual overheat, or a busted temp sensor showing too high temps, leading to a forced bios-level shutdown. Check your temps.

*If you're running windows, you've managed to kill the rpc service, or you've got a virus that's done it. Check so remote procedure call shows as running, and automatic in the list of services. (Get there quickly through Run > Services.msc). Or try a live cd of some kind, knoppix fex, and see if it still shuts down when you're running another os.

As above, if it is an actual overheat the sensor which shuts down the PC is the C.O.P. or CPU Overheat Protection, a thermal sensor underneath the CPU itself. This can be faulty ( in the past this was a common failing but we have moved on from the bad old days) it is an uncommon fault these days since the sensor itself is well protected and CPU's are actually able to better dissipate heat as well due to more efficient HSF designs.

The other suggestions that a virus or malware are active and are causing either random or timed reboots as part of the malicious behaviour are also something to check, but as others have said, without more information we can only guess broadly.

mjmacky
04-30-2012, 02:45 PM
Won't that overheat protection kick in even if you're in BIOS. Doesn't the CPU go fucking full throttle when BIOS is loaded? If so, could be a way to test it right, leave it in bios. I think I remember seeing the temps at the higher end on one of my MBs before, as compared with when the OS is loaded/idle.

Snee
04-30-2012, 03:00 PM
Won't that overheat protection kick in even if you're in BIOS.
Most certainly.

Artemis
04-30-2012, 03:09 PM
Won't that overheat protection kick in even if you're in BIOS. Doesn't the CPU go fucking full throttle when BIOS is loaded? If so, could be a way to test it right, leave it in bios. I think I remember seeing the temps at the higher end on one of my MBs before, as compared with when the OS is loaded/idle.

BIOS stands for Basic Input Output System ( I know I'm teaching my granny to suck eggs here ) and all it really does it run through the basic computer functions and check that they are up and running, the CPU is usually only idling at this point? what kind of CPU/motherboard was it you had & why was it running at full throttle?

Snee
04-30-2012, 03:32 PM
IDK. Mine ups the clock speed to max I think, when I hit BIOS. It doesn't do the turbo-thing, though. I think it's to do with minimizing jumps between speeds if you start mucking around with multis and stuff. Even so, if the OP's computer does it after five minutes, I doubt that's under much load to begin with, unless it autostarts prime 95 or something, for some mental reason.

A couple of computers I've had, it also starts running the fans at full speed.

mjmacky
04-30-2012, 03:52 PM
Yeah, I was iffy about it cementing myself with processor load in BIOS because I don't know how it works. I just know that when I power cycle and calibrate my laptop battery, that fucker gets hot and takes a shorter amount of time to discharge than when in Windows. And on the rare occasion I allow my desktop to not have an OS loaded, I've seen higher than typical idle temperatures (BIOS measurement accuracy ?) and the fans kickin' it like hard knocks.

Artemis
04-30-2012, 05:35 PM
Yeah, I was iffy about it cementing myself with processor load in BIOS because I don't know how it works. I just know that when I power cycle and calibrate my laptop battery, that fucker gets hot and takes a shorter amount of time to discharge than when in Windows. And on the rare occasion I allow my desktop to not have an OS loaded, I've seen higher than typical idle temperatures (BIOS measurement accuracy ?) and the fans kickin' it like hard knocks.

Since I only have one AMD system lying around at my fingertips right now to do a comparison on which is fair with your system macky I used a Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H, which is based on the AMD 780G chipset running an AM2 X2 6400+ processor. In the BIOS specifically in the PC health area checking the readings the CPU temp was 33 degress m/b 26,CPU fanspeed was 1638rpm and system fan was 597rpm, these are all what I consider idling parameters. On intel based systems I know that with speedstepping they step down anyway to the baseline speed unless required so fan speeds will be about 30-35% of total output. Variations come in to play with custom cooling solutions, but this has a standard AMD cooler installed.

dion09529
04-30-2012, 06:16 PM
i have an problem regarding my pc, when i start pc, pc starts normally after 5 min it shutdowns automatically, what will be the problem

You may also have an infected PC. Try to scan your PC using Malwarebytes (http://www.malwarebytes.org/).
The power supply can not overheat in 5 minutes unless is dying by natural causes. You can check this if those 4 capacitors inside the power supply are swollen and have a brownish colour. Check the temperature of the inductor, immediately after the PC has self shut downed.
Or, you can post a picture here to find out what is all about.

mjmacky
04-30-2012, 06:37 PM
Yeah, I was iffy about it cementing myself with processor load in BIOS because I don't know how it works. I just know that when I power cycle and calibrate my laptop battery, that fucker gets hot and takes a shorter amount of time to discharge than when in Windows. And on the rare occasion I allow my desktop to not have an OS loaded, I've seen higher than typical idle temperatures (BIOS measurement accuracy ?) and the fans kickin' it like hard knocks.

Since I only have one AMD system lying around at my fingertips right now to do a comparison on which is fair with your system macky I used a Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H, which is based on the AMD 780G chipset running an AM2 X2 6400+ processor. In the BIOS specifically in the PC health area checking the readings the CPU temp was 33 degress m/b 26,CPU fanspeed was 1638rpm and system fan was 597rpm, these are all what I consider idling parameters. On intel based systems I know that with speedstepping they step down anyway to the baseline speed unless required so fan speeds will be about 30-35% of total output. Variations come in to play with custom cooling solutions, but this has a standard AMD cooler installed.

So if it's about my desktop, I'm not about to shut down to give a no-error account, but I've seen mine in the high 30's, like 38C. To give you an idea, the system's been encoding for about an hour now and the temp is 40C. It usually idles at 25-27C. Could be a motherboard-based behavior, like maybe for a thing like Snee was mentioning, e.g. for tweaking. Couldn't that also be dependent on BIOS revision? I don't think it's chipset related. Either way, I don't think it's always the case, so nevermind trying to use the tactic to help OP who properly fucked off. I say properly because he's probably only here for some invites.
I did find this just now:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1182045/cpu-usage-in-bios

Artemis
04-30-2012, 07:09 PM
Since I only have one AMD system lying around at my fingertips right now to do a comparison on which is fair with your system macky I used a Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H, which is based on the AMD 780G chipset running an AM2 X2 6400+ processor. In the BIOS specifically in the PC health area checking the readings the CPU temp was 33 degress m/b 26,CPU fanspeed was 1638rpm and system fan was 597rpm, these are all what I consider idling parameters. On intel based systems I know that with speedstepping they step down anyway to the baseline speed unless required so fan speeds will be about 30-35% of total output. Variations come in to play with custom cooling solutions, but this has a standard AMD cooler installed.

So if it's about my desktop, I'm not about to shut down to give a no-error account, but I've seen mine in the high 30's, like 38C. To give you an idea, the system's been encoding for about an hour now and the temp is 40C. It usually idles at 25-27C. Could be a motherboard-based behavior, like maybe for a thing like Snee was mentioning, e.g. for tweaking. Couldn't that also be dependent on BIOS revision? I don't think it's chipset related. Either way, I don't think it's always the case, so nevermind trying to use the tactic to help OP who properly fucked off. I say properly because he's probably only here for some invites.
I did find this just now:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1182045/cpu-usage-in-bios

Still haven't slept, speeling errors are creeping in, and I can't bothered hunting back through the posts to track it down exactly but your cpu is a Phenom 865 from memory? so it's a 130w 2ndGeneration Quad-core model which has been encoding for an hour so all four cores have been doing warp speed captain like they should. Yes that'd be when I'd get the marshmallows out put them on sticks and pop the side off the case. :naughty:

mjmacky
05-01-2012, 05:10 AM
So if it's about my desktop, I'm not about to shut down to give a no-error account, but I've seen mine in the high 30's, like 38C. To give you an idea, the system's been encoding for about an hour now and the temp is 40C. It usually idles at 25-27C. Could be a motherboard-based behavior, like maybe for a thing like Snee was mentioning, e.g. for tweaking. Couldn't that also be dependent on BIOS revision? I don't think it's chipset related. Either way, I don't think it's always the case, so nevermind trying to use the tactic to help OP who properly fucked off. I say properly because he's probably only here for some invites.
I did find this just now:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1182045/cpu-usage-in-bios

Still haven't slept, speeling errors are creeping in, and I can't bothered hunting back through the posts to track it down exactly but your cpu is a Phenom 865 from memory? so it's a 130w 2ndGeneration Quad-core model which has been encoding for an hour so all four cores have been doing warp speed captain like they should. Yes that'd be when I'd get the marshmallows out put them on sticks and pop the side off the case. :naughty:

It's the 955 BE, but your point was taken, it should be mellting vault doors like a plasma cutter sitting under load. Well I have a big ass heatsink sitting on top of it, a Zalman CNPS10x Performa keeping her cool, and he doesn't let her go above 41C. I had to switch cases just to get it to fit, not complaining though since my new case is much awesomer than my old one.

Chewie
05-03-2012, 01:47 AM
i have an problem regarding my pc, when i start pc, pc starts normally after 5 min it shutdowns automatically, what will be the problemWhen you say it shuts down, do you mean that it goes through the whole "shutting down windows..." bit and turning off as if you'd told it to shut down, or does it just go *plink* and it's off all of a sudden? Does it make any beeping noises before it goes off?
Just to clarify - we are talking about a desktop here, aren't we?


You may also have an infected PC. Try to scan your PC using Malwarebytes (http://www.malwarebytes.org/).
The power supply can not overheat in 5 minutes unless is dying by natural causes. You can check this if those 4 capacitors inside the power supply are swollen and have a brownish colour. Check the temperature of the inductor, immediately after the PC has self shut downed.
Or, you can post a picture here to find out what is all about.A power supply can overheat without being at death's door. Its internals could be smothered in dust, for a start. If it has overheat protection it should switch off before lasting damage is done.

zot
05-04-2012, 08:20 AM
Can you feel the KARMA? :lol:



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Artemis
05-04-2012, 09:26 AM
Can you feel the KARMA? :lol:



About rushalipatekar

rushali patekar, marketing executive in digital marketing company in india



http://www.internetmarketingforums.net/members/rushalipatekar.html

I'm beginning to get the urge to tell every new user who posts thread like this to die a horrible death on general principles since in 99% of the cases it is a formula for spammers, I can handle the apologies I have to make to the 1% I insult, but this is starting to get ridiculous......douchebags.

zot
05-04-2012, 11:03 AM
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shopperpk
05-08-2012, 12:29 PM
There will be a power supply issue or over heating problem.

Artemis
05-08-2012, 12:35 PM
There will be a power supply issue or over heating problem.

And soon from this deeply inciteful poaster who added absolutely zero to the thread will be.....I'm guessing a nice shiny spam link in a week to two weeks time judging from the username. I just can't wait to click on that link. :blink: