I Keep My Computer On 24/7

[Monkeee]

is it safe or is it gonna explode on my face? I LOVE MY COMPUTER! :D

[Darth Sushi]

My computer has been on for almost two years now.

[shinzuiski]

same same same. hasnt blown p yet

[abu_has_the_power]

i just think it would use too much electricity, and it's not like i have something to dl 24/7. i should. would be nice. everyone else does, but i don't want the elec bill to go crazy

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 04:34
i just think it would use too much electricity, and it's not like i have something to dl 24/7. i should. would be nice. everyone else does, but i don't want the elec bill to go crazy
yes it would waste electro if you have like 7 fans installed into your computer... <_< and CRT monitors... :D

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+17 November 2003 - 23:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez &#064; 17 November 2003 - 23:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 04:34
i just think it would use too much electricity, and it&#39;s not like i have something to dl 24/7. i should. would be nice. everyone else does, but i don&#39;t want the elec bill to go crazy
yes it would waste electro if you have like 7 fans installed into your computer... <_< and CRT monitors... :D [/b][/quote]
i turn my crt off when i leave it on overnight. but yea, i have, umm... 3 case fans, 2 psu fans, 2 hd cooler fans, 1 hsf, and 1 tiny hd fan for my hd tray. that&#39;s 9 fans total&#33; wow. yea. is there a way to check how much elec my pc is using total?

[bob_the_alien]

I keep mine on 24/7,
I don&#39;t really think you PC use enough electricity to worry about your bill, I have two PCs, the main one I keep on all the time, but I used to keep both on all the time.
The electric bill is virtually the same now as it was when I kept both PCs on, so I don&#39;t think you have to worry about crazy electric bills, just because of your PC.

[Virtualbody1234]

I leave mine on all the time. As for power consumption issue, look into the power management systems that are built into your PC.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@17 November 2003 - 23:48
I leave mine on all the time. As for power consumption issue, look into the power management systems that are built into your PC.
and is that the thingy in control panel?

[Monkeee]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+18 November 2003 - 05:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 18 November 2003 - 05:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Virtualbody1234@17 November 2003 - 23:48
I leave mine on all the time. As for power consumption issue, look into the power management systems that are built into your PC.
and is that the thingy in control panel? [/b][/quote]
i think its in the desktop properties and click on screensaver TAB button and there&#39;s a power button :)

[abu_has_the_power]

yea, thats also in the control panel.

anyways, i have a q:
i put my pc on standby, and all my fans and leds and "carnival ride" is still going. and the power light on the front of my case is still on. wtf? and does standby really save half of the energy? if it does, y r all my fans and stuff on?

[DL.]

Average use = 300 watts. Equivalent to 3 regular lightbulbs.

&#036;0.07 avg per kilowatt/hour

1000 / 300 = 3.33

&#036;0.07 / 3.33 = &#036;0.021 per hour.

x 24 hours = &#036;0.50

x 30 days = &#036;12.11

x12 months = &#036;145.32 per year

Approximately ;)

[[B][O][T]]

Here&#39;s My uptime:

http://www.uploadit.org/files2/181103-uptime.png

BOT

[ZaZu]

I leave mine on all the time aswell,I read somewhere that it is better for the harddrive not to turn it on and off to often, that it is better to just leave it on continously :)

[clocker]

BOT,

Where are you getting that information? What program is that?

28 boots and seven crashes?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 00:52
yea, thats also in the control panel.

anyways, i have a q:
i put my pc on standby, and all my fans and leds and "carnival ride" is still going. and the power light on the front of my case is still on. wtf? and does standby really save half of the energy? if it does, y r all my fans and stuff on?
can someone please answer my stand-by question?

[random nut]

Unless you have SCSI disks you should at least not use your PC as a server. IDE disks aren&#39;t meant to be used 24/7. They will crash. I read somewhere that IDE HDD manufacturers only recommend using their IDE HDDs up to 13 hours per day, some even less than that (8 hours per day, 5 days a week).

[Acecool]

You can find how long your computer is on by the task manager

System Idle Process
CPU TIME:

Then Hours:Minutes:Seconds

Mine is at: 97:57:40

Longest would be well over 200 or 300 hours

[DWk]

ide&#39;s arent mean to be on 24/7? dude u better get a source link for this....

COMPUTERS are meant to be ON not OFF, the hardware made for computers is meant for that as well....

[DWk]

Originally posted by Acecool@18 November 2003 - 13:40
You can find how long your computer is on by the task manager

System Idle Process
CPU TIME:

Then Hours:Minutes:Seconds

Mine is at: 97:57:40

Longest would be well over 200 or 300 hours
wat? where is this?

[SciManAl]

hehehehe your poeples computer will not explode unless you have:
?A; to hot of a computer.
B: a passive h20 sys will will reult in A over long periods of time
C: it is too loud and you brake it also possibly resulting in a when non of your fans work... :P

seriosly poeple i have been running my server comp (not supposed to be a server) for over 4 years now, comps can be on as long as you want them too, (well with exception that my light diodes will burn out after 1,000,000 hours... :lol: )

hehehehehehe :P

[random nut]

ide&#39;s arent mean to be on 24/7? dude u better get a source link for this....

COMPUTERS are meant to be ON not OFF, the hardware made for computers is meant for that as well....

No. Computers are meant to be ON whenever we use them.

Anyway, here&#39;s the link if you want to read the story: http://www.tecchannel.com/storage/basics/40/

[DWk]

wow i wonder what kind of joint was that guy smokin.... :lol:


The publication of the power-on hours has resulted in certain - unjustified - uncertainty

it says 12% of the users have experienced problems with leavin the puter 24-7....

12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...

this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)

By doing this, IBM is admitting that their hard drives were made with a lousy effort on creating those drives...or puttin them on their computers....

bottom line: COMPUTERS ARE MADE TO BE ON....
No. Computers are meant to be ON whenever we use them.

so what if u want to download things while not being in your computer? does every computer have a sensor to see if you&#39;re in front of the computer? the computer is using its CPU and its RAM....thus its being USED...no matter wether humans are in front of it or not...

[h121589]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 05:52
yea, thats also in the control panel.

anyways, i have a q:
i put my pc on standby, and all my fans and leds and "carnival ride" is still going. and the power light on the front of my case is still on. wtf? and does standby really save half of the energy? if it does, y r all my fans and stuff on?
ur fans should stop running and ur light is supposed 2 stay and it can turn orange or it could be green and flashing

[kurtsl0an]

hd&#39;s and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they&#39;re on.

duh and stuff.

[Monkeee]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an@19 November 2003 - 01:45
hd&#39;s and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they&#39;re on.

duh and stuff.
:unsure: uh oh so should i stop? :unsure:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Monkeee+18 November 2003 - 21:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monkeee @ 18 November 2003 - 21:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@19 November 2003 - 01:45
hd&#39;s and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they&#39;re on.

duh and stuff.
:unsure: uh oh so should i stop? :unsure: [/b][/quote]
if u don&#39;t have anything to dl, then turn it off

[random nut]

12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...

So you&#39;ve done IDE HDD research now. Could you provide a link to your own research so the rest of us can read it. Oh wait, you just made that up.


this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)

You don&#39;t get it. SCSI drives are their best drives. They&#39;re expensive, reliable, and fast because practically only companies buy them and put them in servers. IDE HDD drives on the other hand are used by people at home, people at work, and cheap web hosts. Most people don&#39;t leave their computers on 24/7 365 days a year and thus the manufacturers don&#39;t need to make IDE HDDs that can be on 24/7 365 days a year. That&#39;s evolution for ya.

But since you insist on being right, do an experiment. Test 5 SCSI drives and 5 IDE drives. Leave them running (simulate a file server) and see which one crashes last. You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they&#39;re designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by random nut@19 November 2003 - 04:33
You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they&#39;re designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.
damn....how come i&#39;ve had 2 replace many scsi drives (luckily hot swappable w/raid 5) for myself and some of my clients servers?

i will not agree that scsi is more stable than ide....scsi is faster and allows you to add more channels than ide...

i know this isn&#39;t my argument, so sorry for cuttin in - :huh: :blink:

[MadDog-2000]

Originally posted by random nut@18 November 2003 - 22:33

12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...

So you&#39;ve done IDE HDD research now. Could you provide a link to your own research so the rest of us can read it. Oh wait, you just made that up.


this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)

You don&#39;t get it. SCSI drives are their best drives. They&#39;re expensive, reliable, and fast because practically only companies buy them and put them in servers. IDE HDD drives on the other hand are used by people at home, people at work, and cheap web hosts. Most people don&#39;t leave their computers on 24/7 365 days a year and thus the manufacturers don&#39;t need to make IDE HDDs that can be on 24/7 365 days a year. That&#39;s evolution for ya.

But since you insist on being right, do an experiment. Test 5 SCSI drives and 5 IDE drives. Leave them running (simulate a file server) and see which one crashes last. You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they&#39;re designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.
random nut is absolutly right&#33;

ATA/IDE drives are not designed for this kind of stress only SCSI drives have these durable components in them that make them so darn tough. The only ATA/IDE drive that comes even close to SCSI performance and quality is the Raptor from Western Digital, which is the only drive that offers SCSI-like technologies in an ATA/IDE drive.

I have read dozens of studies that show that IDE/ATA drives have a much, much higer failure rate than SCSI drives, unfortunetly I can not quote any sources but I am sure you guys will find them somewhere, if you search for it.

And to those of you who leave the PC running 24/7 to download stuff, I really hope you have a SCSI/Raptor drive or at least a back-up of all your files. One day when you sit in front of your PC and write a letter or something like that and your drive crashes, even if it is just 1 year old or so, and you loose all your files because of a disk head crash or bad clusters all over the drive, you will know the differance/importance&#33;

BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data&#33; :D

[clocker]

Originally posted by MadDog-2000@18 November 2003 - 21:56


BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data&#33; :D
You must have some really exotic porn.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by clocker+19 November 2003 - 05:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 19 November 2003 - 05:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MadDog&#045;2000@18 November 2003 - 21:56


BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data&#33;&nbsp; :D
You must have some really exotic porn. [/b][/quote]
i assumed that was a joke? was i wrong? :huh: :blink:

[Jay Field]

i leave mine on dayz at end, only turn it off if it isnt used, and thats hardly ever the case :)... i use a 2nd harddrive as backup as well, and i burn all the good quality stuff (movies, games, mp3&#39;s) on CD... got quite a collection B)...

[bowrabob]

I turn my PC off and pull the plug from the socket...we have a lot of thunder storms where I live...I know quite a few people that have had thier PCs Fried resulting from lightning making contact with the ground and running up the earth stake.

[Darth Sushi]

Originally posted by Cowboy Bob@19 November 2003 - 08:42
I turn my PC off and pull the plug from the socket...we have a lot of thunder storms where I live...I know quite a few people that have had thier PCs Fried resulting from lightning making contact with the ground and running up the earth stake.
Are you in Florida?

[BawA]

Originally posted by [B][O][T]@18 November 2003 - 10:15
Here&#39;s My uptime:

http://www.uploadit.org/files2/181103-uptime.png

BOT
what program is that
any link :P

[[B][O][T]]

You can download it from here (http://www.rundegren.com/software/windowsuptime/) (This is a freeware).

BOT

[BawA]

tanx BOT ;)

[nanotek]

i leave mine on 24-7 also unless thunder storms are coming

[Monkeee]

Originally posted by nanotek@19 November 2003 - 18:20
i leave mine on 24-7 also unless thunder storms are coming
any problems with your COMP? :rolleyes:

[Sparkle1984]

I wouldn&#39;t dare try it. My sister says we should always turn our electrical appliances off completely (not leave them on stand-by) because otherwise it might cause a fire in the house, and waste energy. She has young children in her house. Her family just moved into a new house recently, I gave them my old computer, TV and VCR, some games all for free, and she doesn&#39;t want it ruined it&#39;s the first decent house she&#39;s ever lived in (apart from mine of course, before she moved out of our mum&#39;s house, where I still am &#33;&#33;) :lol:

[justin_9733]

Originally posted by [B][O][T]@18 November 2003 - 00:15
Here&#39;s My uptime:

http://www.uploadit.org/files2/181103-uptime.png

BOT
I leave mine on 24/7 but I can&#39;t get anywhere close to 7 days, mine starts doin wierd shit and screwin up at 2-3 days.

[The Real Santa]

i donno im too poor to leave it on all the time can&#39;t pay the electric bills :(

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by The Real Santa@20 November 2003 - 05:37
i donno im too poor to leave it on all the time can&#39;t pay the electric bills :(
exactly wat i&#39;m trying to say

[clocker]

Originally posted by The Real Santa@20 November 2003 - 03:37
i donno im too poor to leave it on all the time can&#39;t pay the electric bills :(
Bet you wish those damn reindeer hadn&#39;t unionized, don&#39;t you?

[MadDog-2000]

Originally posted by clocker+18 November 2003 - 23:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 18 November 2003 - 23:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-MadDog&#045;2000@18 November 2003 - 21:56


BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data&#33;&nbsp; :D
You must have some really exotic porn.[/b][/quote]
No, only about 120 GB of DivX movies and mp3s that I don&#39;t like to loose because of a stupid disk crash or something like that.

Anyway, nice response :lol: you gave me a good laugh.

[james_bond_rulez]

you back up all ur movies? what a waste to hdd usage... <_<

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@23 November 2003 - 17:11
you back up all ur movies? what a waste to hdd usage... <_<
wat&#39;s a good running temp for ur hd? i have a hd cooler for my 120 gb, and b4 it ran at 27-29 deg C. now, it&#39;s 16-19. is that a good temp for my hd?

[bowrabob]

Originally posted by Darth Sushi+19 November 2003 - 08:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Darth Sushi @ 19 November 2003 - 08:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cowboy Bob@19 November 2003 - 08:42
I turn my PC off and pull the plug from the socket...we have a lot of thunder storms where I live...I know quite a few people that have had thier PCs Fried resulting from lightning making contact with the ground and running up the earth stake.
Are you in Florida? [/b][/quote]
I live in NSW (East coast Australia)