What P2p Programme Do You Use Most?!

[tralalala]

well, what programme do you use most as your main p2p client?!

It's now officially a poll - added a couple of options as well :) Nikki

tralalala

[nanotek]

i use slsk all the time and everyother night emule plus i use dc++ as well - this may be :spam: but please check my sig :P

[Amarjit]

Shareaza primarily, aside from that, the reluctantly used KL++. Shareaza has the content, I.C.H., GUI and more. KL++ has none of this with the exception of MP3s.

[3rd gen noob]

newsgroups most (not really p2p)
also, emule and soulseek

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by tralalala@19 November 2003 - 18:18
well, what programme do you use most as your main p2p client?!

k-lite
eMule
eDonkey
Shareaza
iMesh
Morpheus


tralalala
Wheres BitTorrent??

BitTorrent rules.

I could never get the hang of Newsgroups, it just looked like a load of spam text files to me... :(

[Benno]

Bittorrent and Soulseek

[CPU1]

where here are mine in order
bt, emule, irc, and k-lite

[scribblec]

Originally posted by cpumaster1@19 November 2003 - 23:33
where here are mine in order
bt, emule, irc, and k-lite
ditto

[Arm]

:angry: Bittorrent would be good if we had a decent download and tracker site. :(

[uNz[i]]

Used to be K-lite for me, but lately I've been using Shareaza mostly for sharing on the BitTorrent and G2 networks.

I like the idea of accessing multiple networks using a single client, much like Trillian does with the most popular messenger networks.

Why have 4 different programs when there's one that does the same thing? B)

[Arm]

Originally posted by uNz[i]@20 November 2003 - 05:45
Used to be K-lite for me, but lately I've been using Shareaza mostly for sharing on the BitTorrent and G2 networks.

I like the idea of accessing multiple networks using a single client, much like Trillian does with the most popular messenger networks.

Why have 4 different programs when there's one that does the same thing? B)
Yeah but Trillians far from perfect. Their interface could use some work and their similie codes need to be fixed.

[uNz[i]]

Originally posted by Arm+20 November 2003 - 15:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arm @ 20 November 2003 - 15:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-uNz[i
,20 November 2003 - 05:45] Used to be K-lite for me, but lately I&#39;ve been using Shareaza mostly for sharing on the BitTorrent and G2 networks.

I like the idea of accessing multiple networks using a single client, much like Trillian does with the most popular messenger networks.

Why have 4 different programs when there&#39;s one that does the same thing?&nbsp; B)
Yeah but Trillians far from perfect. Their interface could use some work and their similie codes need to be fixed. [/b][/quote]
Even so, it still works. Maybe it isn&#39;t pretty or perfect, but it does the job okay, and that&#39;s what counts in my book. :)

[RealitY]

In order...

1. News Groups
2. Shareaza (eDonkey and BT)
3. SoulSeek (Just Started)
4. KL++
5. IRC

Oh yeah, and how could I foreget...
ES5, after all they said I&#39;de get a
FREE book full of E ticket coupons
for Space Mountain at Disney Land&#33;&#33;
:P :P


Yahoo Thats What I Call Filesharing.
:blink: :blink:

[Jay]

cant decide between bittoret and Irc, but i&#39;ll do download more stuff from bittoret so that&#39;s where my vote goes

[tracydani]

I&#39;m with Jay, but I just started with IRC so who knows, it may move up.

@REALITY

I only got tickets for It&#39;s a small world :(

TD

[RealitY]

Originally posted by tracydani@20 November 2003 - 00:45
@REALITY

I only got tickets for It&#39;s a small world :(

TD
Sucker...

[Rocktron]

5% for Soulseek so far?

lol,

What are they waiting for? :unsure:
It&#39;s the best personal chat/download/fun/wicked/nOOb free/Real files p2p there is... :lol:

This puzzles me. Really it does&#33;
At least the people i see there everyday 24/7 i can call friends by now.
Kazaa never did that for me or any other p2p program i tried so far.&#092;

:D GO SOULSEEK&#33; :D

[nanotek]

how come dc++ isnt in that list ? it really rocks :D

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by nanotek@20 November 2003 - 14:13
how come dc++ isnt in that list ? it really rocks :D
dc is for nerds like you <_<

also dc ops are gay <_<

[nanotek]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+20 November 2003 - 14:17--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez &#064; 20 November 2003 - 14:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nanotek@20 November 2003 - 14:13
how come dc++ isnt in that list ? it really rocks :D
dc is for nerds like you <_<

also dc ops are gay <_< [/b][/quote]
sure m8 but have u been able to download from one person at nearly 60 kB/S as an example using another prog ? (except for maybe slsk )


edit : and we can ban and report ppl with child porn where as on other progs u cant do that

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by nanotek+20 November 2003 - 14:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nanotek &#064; 20 November 2003 - 14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@20 November 2003 - 14:17
<!--QuoteBegin-nanotek@20 November 2003 - 14:13
how come dc++ isnt in that list ? it really rocks?:D
dc is for nerds like you <_<

also dc ops are gay <_<
sure m8 but have u been able to download from one person at nearly 60 kB/S as an example using another prog ? (except for maybe slsk )


edit : and we can ban and report ppl with child porn where as on other progs u cant do that [/b][/quote]
i can prob find stuff half the time on bt than i do on dc, without ops or noob nosing around in my shared folder, and still max out my connection every time&#33;&#33;&#33; <_<

[nanotek]

sure i can use bt and max my connection too but from a single user ? and whats with noobs nosing about in your folder ? dont u share with everyone ? ;)

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by nanotek@20 November 2003 - 14:42
sure i can use bt and max my connection too but from a single user ? and whats with noobs nosing about in your folder ? dont u share with everyone ? ;)
why do i download only from 1 user when i can download the same thing with 10 users with 10 times the speed? :lol:

and haven&#39;t you heard something called privacy? damn it&#33;&#33; :angry:

i share too but keep ur god damn nose outta my system&#33;&#33; :angry:

[nanotek]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@20 November 2003 - 14:48

why do i download only from 1 user when i can download the same thing with 10 users with 10 times the speed?

and haven&#39;t you heard something called privacy?


well when 1 user gives u your max speed then u cant download any faster or am i mistaken ?

and coming to privacy : if your sharing riaa stuff then dont be suprised if they find u one day , one could also use a proxy to mask his ip <_<

[james_bond_rulez]

wow i am so scared..i am trembling :lol:

well if RIAA can cross the boarder and come to my house i&#39;d be happy to let them kiss my ass and bring with them my footprints on their asses as a thank you note :lol:

[Benno]

Originally posted by Rocktron@20 November 2003 - 15:06


What are they waiting for? :unsure:
It&#39;s the best personal chat/download/fun/wicked/nOOb free/Real files p2p there is...&nbsp; :lol:

So true but it aint that good anymore when it comes to bigger files because of the speeds, thats way I also use other apps a lot.

[nanotek]

they have busted ppl in denmark &#33;

[james_bond_rulez]

:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

[nanotek]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@20 November 2003 - 15:17
:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
sweet dreams then

[j4y3m]

BitTorrent + IRC

[Rocktron]

Everyone has their favorite p2p program.
NO need to call names or anything like that.

Soulseek is personal, maybe slower, but you can talk to people there and make friends. Ask for stuff and chat at the same time.
I found amazing stuff there and some found stuff on me too. That&#39;s the way p2p should work you know?

It&#39;s not all about downloading from others and get the newest files and the biggest speed. Me and many on soulseek just leave their pc on 24/7 just to share and not downloading anything themselfes. (think about that for a sec&#33;)

Soulseek is not just a program you turn on and off , it&#39;s a place to hang out and meet people&#33;

We do that because we share and care...


<_< :rolleyes:

[ultimatejester]

Bittorrent 4 movies & software
K-Lite for porn
Emule for books

[CoolMac]

well it&#39;s true klite is my main p2p program, however i would like to have a second 1 to download the things that klite doesn&#39;t have:

Wich 1 is the best (after klite)?

[hiloman67]

I can&#39;t say, lest this topic be closed, and I be labeled a troll and a fanboy&#33; ;) :D

[j4y3m]

I Can&#39;t Beleive IRC Only Got 3 Votes...True It&#39;s Abit More Complicated Than The Other P2P Programs But It Has All The Latest And Old Files At Great Speeds :blink:

[Formula1]

K-Lite++

[tralalala]

lol.... so i guess for now, k-lite is STILL holding on...
but dont think eMule isnt some sort of a threat to k-lite... the eMule/Donkey community is gorwing... fast&#33;&#33;&#33;


again: i use eMule for films and games, k-lite is used from me for music.


tralalala

[CoolMac]

Originally posted by tralalala@24 November 2003 - 08:03
lol.... so i guess for now, k-lite is STILL holding on...
but dont think eMule isnt some sort of a threat to k-lite... the eMule/Donkey community is gorwing... fast&#33;&#33;&#33;


again: i use eMule for films and games, k-lite is used from me for music.


tralalala
emule is 2 slow 4 me if it&#39;s growing that much

[tralalala]

well, i dont see whats with you guys&#33;&#33;&#33;
eMule is one of the best programmes for downloading verifieds through, and i dont see what your problem is with leaving the PC on overnight... (that refers to people with unlimited bradband connection :P)

i think we should all be greatful for the people that bring us the verified stuff&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

tralalala

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by tralalala@24 November 2003 - 14:21
well, i dont see whats with you guys&#33;&#33;&#33;
eMule is one of the best programmes for downloading verifieds through, and i dont see what your problem is with leaving the PC on overnight... (that refers to people with unlimited bradband connection :P)

i think we should all be greatful for the people that bring us the verified stuff&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

tralalala
why do u always say "tralalala" in your every post?

it&#39;s annoying

and what does tralalala mean?

[thisiswhoweare]

:) B) hahahahahah :lol: :rolleyes: :D :P

[N£MO]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+24 November 2003 - 15:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 24 November 2003 - 15:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tralalala@24 November 2003 - 14:21
well, i dont see whats with you guys&#33;&#33;&#33;
eMule is one of the best programmes for downloading verifieds through, and i dont see what your problem is with leaving the PC on overnight... (that refers to people with unlimited bradband connection :P)

i think we should all be greatful for the people that bring us the verified stuff&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

tralalala
why do u always say "tralalala" in your every post?

it&#39;s annoying

and what does tralalala mean? [/b][/quote]
I think it means &#39;i am a knobhead&#39; :lol:

[tralalala]

well, in the few months ive been here my fingers write that tralalala on its own... so i cant stop it, its on auto pilot. what does it mean?&#33; maybe its the sound of a drunk who thinks hes singing the national anthem? :huh: :blink: lol

tralalala

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by tralalala@24 November 2003 - 18:48
well, in the few months ive been here my fingers write that tralalala on its own... so i cant stop it, its on auto pilot. what does it mean?&#33; maybe its the sound of a drunk who thinks hes singing the national anthem? :huh: :blink: lol

tralalala
about time you get sober now :lol: :lol:

[tralalala]

lol... but hey, i aint the only one that puts his screen name at the bottom of each message&#33;&#33; for instance UKMan, brotherdoobie and more (cant think of more at this particular moment)

tralalala

[jetje]

:)

[tralalala]

2 question jetje: 1) was that smiley a "nicer" way of a bump and 2) how did you get that link for your post count?&#33;

tralalala

[jetje]

Yes an ordinairy bump :lol:

the 2nd question i don&#39;t get? link for postcount?

[backlash]

k-lite k++ 2.4.3 :D

[leapinglady1]

I am a newbie......so I use k-lite and grokster......
Used to be I could see movies with no prob, now I have too much prob with trying to watch them that,, I don&#39;t bother anymore ... A friend tried to get me to use newsgroups , but that to me is all another language.
My daughter is the one who uses these more for songs..and the one she uses is k-lite..so I guess the vote goes there..

[tralalala]

well, i still think it was like more "easy" in a way without that link for the posts... lol

tralalala

EDIT: maybe to prevent bumping this one should be pinned? just a thought

[ThePlasticSurgeon]

I use the azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net) bittorrent client most of the time. It has a nice look and there is a linux version.

[Neo 721]

I recently started using Sharaza even though i only just got back online.

PS This poll should be split into Network and client.

[tralalala]

Neo what do you mean by splitting it into "network and client"?? you mean to ask what network you use (fasttrack, gnuttella2 etc) and another question asking what client you use most on that network?&#33;

i still think this poll is good enough as it is...

tralalala

[Steven McL]

I only use Kazaa Lite K++ at the moment

Could anyone suggest any other spyware & adware free programs that are 56k friendly?

[tralalala]

56k friendly?? my my thats a little bit difficult...
k-lite seems to be one of the only (if not THE only) 56k friendly filesharing programme...
adware&spyware free programmes: soulseek, eMule/Donkey, IRC


tralalala

[CornerPocket]

BitTorrent for me 99% :) of the time 1% K++ ;) .

[Steven McL]

whats eMule like? , has anyone got a screenshot of it? , and can i choose if i want share or not?

cheers for the help :)

[jetje]

Originally posted by Steven McL@9 December 2003 - 21:22
whats eMule like? , has anyone got a screenshot of it? , and can i choose if i want share or not?

cheers for the help :)
gues you can ask that now in the emule/edonkey part of the forum :rolleyes:

btw tralala maybe now (the forum changes) you see why i did bump this one before :lol:

[tralalala]

ummmm jetje... i actually dont see why you bumped it... lol little thick tralalala isnt thinking straight, could you give me a clue?? lolol


tralalala

[tracydani]

They were using it as a guide for how to set up the current forum template. If you look at the program sections and the order they are in, you will see it pretty much follows the poll results.

TD

[guit_steel]

I actually use eMule plus, not eMule.

Unfortunately, KL hasn&#39;t been very useful for my needs in quite some time. I do reserve upload bandwidth for the network — you&#39;ve got to stay loyal to the girl who brung ya. ;)

[tralalala]

well ummmm whats the difference between eMule and eMule Plus?? is it a bit like kazaa and k-lite?&#33;


tralalala

[guit_steel]

No, more like the difference between KL 2.4 and KL 2.0. U can check out some screen shots here: http://emuleplus.sourceforge.net/

eMule is just fine as it is, in fact, I know several people that prefer eMule to eMule plus. Personally, I like the GUI better and find the plus package more user friendly.

BTW: I&#39;m using version 1h; I haven&#39;t upgraded to 1i yet.

[thisiswhoweare]

emule plus releases are not as often as the officials. We do try hard to get it updated as often but its not possible most of the time. The program is most customisable GUI wise, and is more eye candy than official.
However some prefer emule to emuleplus like guit_steel has stated. I moved from emule to plus and happy as i am with it.

Im using 1i RC6 [its a betaversion] and ive got no problems with it, but unfortunately a few have reported crashes. Got a few dumps received so hopefully it&#39;ll be solved in next release.

[tralalala]

wait a minute thisiswhoweare, are you an eMule Plus developer?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;
wow, you must teach me some programming, wouldnt mind putting up a P2P programme of my own that would be very, VERY popular... (hey k-lite, just joking) :P


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

lol hardly. :D
if you check my links i post (threads which i created) you&#39;ll know my username on the emuleplus boards and my status. Which btw is betatester :)
Though if my programming skills (if i could really ever call them that) are decent enough, i will try and help out but at this moment in time, they&#39;re not worth using because they&#39;re shite lol. :rolleyes:

[AndrewBarker]

1) k-lite

2) emule

[tralalala]

hey, why call em (your skills) that?&#33; you have skills, thats something to be proud of. i wish i had those skills.. lol


tralalala

p.s: i can barely use HTML...

[QUILzhunter931]

I use K-Lite the most.

[Mihkel]

where is dc++ in that list? i cant vote&#33;
1. DC++
2. K-Lite
3. ICQ heh-heh..

[{I}{K}{E}]

K-lite
mIRC
Bittorent

[thisiswhoweare]

Originally posted by tralalala@11 December 2003 - 20:07
hey, why call em (your skills) that?&#33; you have skills, thats something to be proud of. i wish i had those skills.. lol


tralalala

p.s: i can barely use HTML...
calling it as i see it :)
gotta get back to C now. :(
for hand in tomorrow. :unsure:

[Switeck]

Brutal p2p network breakdown:

BitTorrent isn&#39;t even a network, so it&#39;s out of the question even though it&#39;s very useful for really big files. Also, it works by using trackers which work both ways -- not only connecting people to each other to get files but (with the experimental BitTorrent versions) logging those connections. BitTorrent is simply transparent when it comes to being monitored. Bit Torrent has one advantage -- I don&#39;t think it will die easily. It&#39;s already TOO popular. And it cannot be destroyed in the typical sense because it is NOT a network -- it is only a distribution scheme. Any website sharing &#39;questionable&#39; material can be shut down, but BT itself is squeaky clean.

Direct Connect (and DC++) has some good abilities, but its strength is also its weakness -- it creates private networks by design which do not scale into the millions (to my knowledge.)

Gnutella is worthy of note because it is neglected as a &#39;serious&#39; network anymore, despite the fact it has advanced immensely since its initial concept. Kazaa is BASED on it, but stagnated -- so Gnutella v0.6 protocol has surpassed it and CAN scale indefinitely at the price of only a &#39;window&#39; of the network (about 10,000 to 100,000 computers) can be scanned at a time.

Shareaza (Gnutella 2) has some minor advances over Gnutella 1 and connects to multiple networks, but the price for extra connectivity is extra bandwidth useage just when sitting idle. It&#39;s a cool program, but even the experts don&#39;t know how to get the most out of it yet. Shareaza is a weird bird in all regards -- it connects to multiple networks: Gnutella 1, Gnutella 2 (which the Gnutella 1 developers call Mike&#39;s Protocol because they feel like it is a hostile bastardization of Gnutella 1 designed only to destroy Gnutella 1 but without many new innovations), E-mule, and BitTorrent. However, this comes at a price -- extra bandwidth used and stability. It has a lone developer, who is very eccentric and hates BearShare&#39;s CEO and head programmer (BearShare is a Gnutella 1 only app) with a passion -- the feeling&#39;s mutual and it threatens to destroy both networks at times, as they&#39;ve taken out their grevances by blocking each other&#39;s program in multiple versions.

WinMX, I don&#39;t know how it&#39;s doing, but I&#39;ve heard (and seen once when I tried briefly to use it) that it is the network of perpetual queues. You might be in queued position 100+ for a file that&#39;d likely take 4 hours to download if started now. Given even that the &#39;average&#39; file that source is uploading only takes 1 hour instead of 4, that&#39;s a 100 hour constant wait. That is not workable.

E-mule may have the same problem, and I know it also has forced sharing of files. What&#39;s more, just like Kazaa&#39;s PL system, if you&#39;re not uploading at at least 10 KB/sec then your download speed/s will suck. It&#39;s favoritism, which is ok in small doses, but in extremes makes a network unworkable. I&#39;m pretty sure it has partial file sharing, but that&#39;s a moot point (even a BAD thing) for small files.

The lowest bandwidth-use network seems to be E-mule (from what I&#39;ve been told) or Gnutella using BearShare or Shareaza in leaf mode (or like I do often -- no hosts connections at all.) Uses less than 1 kilobit/sec on average. (It&#39;d have to be >8x that to equal 1 KB/sec overhead.) This is GOOD for 56k&#39;s and broadband alike, because it means less bandwidth is wasted on excessive connectivity for no net gains.

[thisiswhoweare]

ok to clear things up....emule does not have forced sharing. Users can share or unshare whatever files, but doing so will mean you dont get credit.
It does have partial sharing which allows others to download from you when a chunk has been completed.

If your not upload at 10KB, then your download will be ratioed down. But the download speed would still be pretty decent.

[guit_steel]

...if you&#39;re not uploading at at least 10 KB/sec then your download speed/s will suck. It&#39;s favoritism...

Sharing 10 KB/s is favoritism? How many KB/s are u taking off the network? Sorry, but looking to max one&#39;s dl speed and min one&#39;s ul speed is not my idea of sharing. If u ask me, it&#39;s borderline leeching.

Personally, I set my ul to 80% of capacity which is above 10 KB/s. Except for those still using dial-up, I don&#39;t understand this being unreasonable. Even so I believe the Plus ratio is 1:4 (other eMule versions may differ), so if u only limit ur ul to 5 KB/s, u will still be allowed to dl 20 KB/s. This is unfair? C&#39;mon.

[tralalala]

hey thisiswhoweare, what are you handing in? or have you handed it in allready? if its something for a grade of somesort, i wish you luck&#33;&#33; :)


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

my assignment for one of my modules at university. :( was up all night and dont think i&#39;ll get more than 10%. Glad that my holidays officially began as soon as i handed them in...shame ive got 3 other assignments to worry over now.

Appreciate the good luck.

:unsure: guess i&#39;ll start on them tomorrow.

[tralalala]

hey mate, the thing is you should enjoy your studying while you still can, i guess thats why you chose it?? cos you thought you would enjoy it&#33;&#33; so do so&#33;&#33;&#33; if not, youll just pressure yourself, and by doing that your works quality will go down...


still, im sure you know this, and im sure youll get a pretty good grade (keep us all updated ;) )


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

:rolleyes:

:P its not that i dont enjoy it, its so much to do in so little time. Anyway i appreciate the "pep" talk, :) but i dont think its something worth updating in this thread. Its already offtopic :D.

[tralalala]

lol, its a POLL... it doesnt even have an actual topic thingy to talk about... so in my oppinion its "allowed"... lol

and what did you expect?? that you would start studying and you wouldnt need to do any assignments?&#33; lol, it isnt so my friend...


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

scenario: your a superhero, and you have to save the world from being hit by a comet and the only thing you have at your disposal is a ....spoon.

Thats how i feel. :lol:

anyway, like i said no more talk from me on this. Im the worlds most pessimistic guy and my mind isnt gonna be changed by anything. Guess i&#39;ll have to buckle down and get to it during the xmas holidays :huh: have a good xmas everyone (-me) :blink: :ph34r: .

[tralalala]

wish i could accept the happy xmas greeting (well actually i will :) ), because im a jewish person... lol
so ill give you a greeting back: happy chanuka (the holiday that is basically like xmas, just jewish, as in its the same time of year&#33;&#33;&#33;)


and i liked the joke... lol but stay cool, dont get uptight, and try and enjoy the fact your studying something you like.


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

joke, what joke??? :rolleyes:

ok: happy chanuka and merry xmas to everyone then :P

thanks for the "happy chanuka", but i dont celebrate christmas. To me its just like anyother day :) , i also don&#39;t celebrate birthdays too, but i do for my friends.

[tralalala]

tell you what then, come and tell us when its your birthday and we will organize a surprise party (whoops, gave in the surprise... :rolleyes: ) lol



tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

:ph34r: :blink: oh heck&#33;

[Mr AnDy D]

k-lite can *@% up your comp pretty bad, but it is still the best...

[thisiswhoweare]

@ what?

*@% your computer up? lol :rolleyes:

[sam71]

with a crappy upload, i see no reason so share if you can help it.

[tralalala]

it can only @#*% up your computer if you dont use it correctly&#33;&#33;&#33;

for instance: my k-lite has been hogging bandwidth lately, so what did i do?&#33; i made it NOT start auto on startup, and will now only use it at night&#33;&#33;


tralalala

[guit_steel]

Originally posted by tralalala@14 December 2003 - 07:28
for instance: my k-lite has been hogging bandwidth lately
Wasn&#39;t a prob until I forced supernode, but now I have to disable node if I&#39;m doing other work online.

[tralalala]

yeah... it seems real weird... it only started hogging my bandwidth about 1 week ago...

im wondering if its the fact i downloaded Need For Speed Underground, and that loads of users are uploading the bins from me...

oh well, ill try disabling those two files to see if its really the reason, if not... i dunno what to do... :huh: :ph34r:


tralalala

[Switeck]

Originally posted by thisiswhoweare+12 December 2003 - 01:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (thisiswhoweare &#064; 12 December 2003 - 01:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>ok to clear things up....emule does not have forced sharing. Users can share or unshare whatever files, but doing so will mean you dont get credit.
It does have partial sharing which allows others to download from you when a chunk has been completed.

If your not upload at 10KB, then your download will be ratioed down. But the download speed would still be pretty decent.[/b]
Ok, I was wrong -- I didn&#39;t/don&#39;t know much about E-mule... except what I&#39;ve heard from people who hate it. :P

Partial sharing sounds a lot like forced sharing, especially since I&#39;ve HEARD (only) that because partial files are always shared there&#39;s many files you can see referances to in searches but cannot download because only partials for it exists on the network.
<!--QuoteBegin-guit_steel@12 December 2003 - 06:52

...if you&#39;re not uploading at at least 10 KB/sec then your download speed/s will suck. It&#39;s favoritism...
Sharing 10 KB/s is favoritism? How many KB/s are u taking off the network? Sorry, but looking to max one&#39;s dl speed and min one&#39;s ul speed is not my idea of sharing. If u ask me, it&#39;s borderline leeching.[/quote]
I meant favoritism more or less against 56k users and anyone who cannot upload at least 10 KB/sec.

THEY get less in return even compaired to how much they DO upload -- or so the story goes...

[thisiswhoweare]

forced sharing is something like what directconnect uses. You need to share 30GB of stuff to even join a hub. Since emule shares the files it downloads, you dont really need to share anything at the start. Just goes to show you can&#39;t listen to people who havent used it before.

Since partials are shared, they do get shown up in searches, and they are 3% of the time pretty dead because they are old, or some buggers downloaded it and took it off or it could be on jumpstart, but when you connect to your sources, you get told how many parts the file should have and how many there are available. So if you are connected for a week, and your total parts for a file is 32 but only 11 are available, then its almost safe to assume its dead.

but you can still always request it or ask for a reshare if its on ed2k sites.

[tralalala]

what did you mean when you said some things require a 30GB forced sharing?&#33;
who on earth in the world shares that ammount of stuff????
maybe 100 people out of the 200 million filesharers...


tralalala :o

[jetje]

Originally posted by tralalala@16 December 2003 - 14:48
what did you mean when you said some things require a 30GB forced sharing?&#33;
who on earth in the world shares that ammount of stuff????
maybe 100 people out of the 200 million filesharers...


tralalala :o
ehm.... uhhh.... :unsure:

[thisiswhoweare]

Originally posted by tralalala@16 December 2003 - 12:48
what did you mean when you said some things require a 30GB forced sharing?&#33;
who on earth in the world shares that ammount of stuff????
maybe 100 people out of the 200 million filesharers...


tralalala&nbsp; :o
well i know someone in university who shares 300GB on his computer. Directconnect really needs you to share a lot of files, maybe not as much as 300GB, but last time i checked the smallest amount was a GB and you had to have X slots for upload.

I usually share sometimes 40GBs of stuff on emule, but its rare since my hard drive space is limited, so its between 25-35 mostly.

[guit_steel]

Originally posted by tralalala@16 December 2003 - 08:48
what did you mean when you said some things require a 30GB forced sharing?&#33;
who on earth in the world shares that ammount of stuff????
maybe 100 people out of the 200 million filesharers...
I do. It&#39;s not hard when most of the files u share are 600-1500MB.

In fact, I&#39;m in the process of adding a second hd and adding an FTP server. When all is done, I&#39;ll be making 120GB available. :D

[tralalala]

300GB?????? wow... thats a huge ammount&#33;&#33;
im barely sharing 2 GB... :(


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

yeah DC&#39;s numbers arent that many, but the file amount can be as much as Kazaa&#39;s.
I think he has terabytes of stuff burned onto cds and dvd&#39;s though :D ive probably downloaded 700GBs, and upped 400GB

[Switeck]

Originally posted by thisiswhoweare@16 December 2003 - 07:44
forced sharing is something like what directconnect uses. You need to share 30GB of stuff to even join a hub. Since emule shares the files it downloads, you dont really need to share anything at the start. Just goes to show you can&#39;t listen to people who havent used it before.

Since partials are shared, they do get shown up in searches,
For the paranoid, having their partial files show up in searches is a way they could be monitored by RIAA/MPAA/BSA even if they hide the completed results and only share legal things.

This means all said E-mule seems to be NO more secure than BitTorrent for specific files. (ie: searches for specific files, like MPAA would do.) The main question is: can you so &#39;buried deeply&#39; in the network that a search from the &#39;outside edge&#39; of the network may not find you?

TOO much connectivity is a BAD thing.

[thisiswhoweare]

well p2ps aren&#39;t secure anyway. There pretty much gonna be ways for organisations to find sharers

[ZeroTolerance]

kazaalite-overall good stuff
Shareaza-Edonkey-bittorent- good communcation and share the same network
Edonkey-take to long
Bittorent-slow downloads
Earth Station 5- not alot of people or files.........lol
Ares- same thin as ES5
News group-never tried to use
Mirc-looks to complicated


By the way Shareaza and Kazaalite is the best for over all the p2p connection networks. B) B) B)

[tralalala]

lol thisiswhoweare... does this person who has terabytes of stuff burned onto CD&#39;s... does he actually have a life?&#33;?&#33;?&#33; i mean... burning so much would mean days.... weeks.... months... even years on end of downloading-burning-downloading-burning-downloading-burning....

that... i must say, is sad



tralalala

[bluedevil]

BT,IRC,EMULE :D

[tralalala]

just remembered something else... thisiswhoweare - do you use k-lite at all?&#33; cos if not... what are you doing on the k-lite board??? :huh:


tralalala

[SeK612]

At the moment I&#39;m using emule alot (since the problems with K++ arose). It takes a bit of time to get going but its good when it does and theres alot of stuff available.

I&#39;m also trying Shareaza to see whether its good enough to replace the emule and BT clients I&#39;m using.

I&#39;ve still go alot of downloads in K++ though and I use it every once in a while.

I also use SoulSeek as its fantastic for music.

I&#39;ve tried the rest at some stage or other but have yet to try Irc (although I might once I&#39;ve set up the rest properly).

[guit_steel]

Originally posted by Switeck@16 December 2003 - 17:57
For the paranoid, having their partial files show up in searches is a way they could be monitored by RIAA/MPAA/BSA even if they hide the completed results and only share legal things.
thisiswhoweare answered best, but keep in mind that if u have disabled list view for the public, only that one file will be visible. Even then, they would have to dl from u to see that info. Smacks of entrapment, doesn&#39;t it?

I can&#39;t imagine these guys suing individuals based on a single file; The costs would be enormous. Just like on KL, use the privacy patch and they can&#39;t take a screen shot of ur shared folder.

[tralalala]

look, if your scared of the RIAA/MPAA... either stop your downloads... or GET A LIFE (as Paul said)...

more people die of cancer than getting caught by the RIAA&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


tralalala

[fkdup74]

Originally posted by Mr AnDy D@13 December 2003 - 14:23
k-lite can *@% up your comp pretty bad, but it is still the best...
:blink: (no comment).......um........yeah, comment
keep an updated AV, preferably one with an auto-protect feature (i use NAV)
use the ip blocker (and keep it updated)
firewall (and use the bad ip info in your advanced rules)
look for the tips in here to avoid bad files...
theres so many ways to protect your pc, and none of them complicated ;)
the only real way to be absolutely sure your 100% safe is to not do it at all though
but thats f&#39;n gay :lol: (IMO)

anyway, to my vote, using k++ and emule
(and a new find fore me, thanks to SH, http file server, it rocks :D )

[thisiswhoweare]

Originally posted by tralalala@17 December 2003 - 12:33
just remembered something else... thisiswhoweare - do you use k-lite at all?&#33; cos if not... what are you doing on the k-lite board??? :huh:


tralalala
the person burning the terabyte of stuff has been doing it for quite some time now. A few years, so its bound to be a lot :P

What am i doing here? I dont use kazaa lite anymore, but im here on a converting business :rolleyes: actually i come here to help with emule questions and stuff and to clear any misconceptions of it. :D

That and for some of the silly lounge topics (as well as some nice photos :) in threads i.e sexiest lady etc lol.)

I switch between e+ board, this board, and quite a few others.....just something to do to avoid work most of the time.

[tralalala]

well, i must say... well done on your idea of helping out in the eMule section



tralalala

[Switeck]

Originally posted by guit_steel+17 December 2003 - 08:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (guit_steel &#064; 17 December 2003 - 08:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Switeck@16 December 2003 - 17:57
For the paranoid, having their partial files show up in searches is a way they could be monitored by RIAA/MPAA/BSA even if they hide the completed results and only share legal things. thisiswhoweare answered best, but keep in mind that if u have disabled list view for the public, only that one file will be visible. Even then, they would have to dl from u to see that info. Smacks of entrapment, doesn&#39;t it?

I can&#39;t imagine these guys suing individuals based on a single file; The costs would be enormous. Just like on KL, use the privacy patch and they can&#39;t take a screen shot of ur shared folder.[/b][/quote]The main issue with lots of shared partials isn&#39;t being busted by RIAA/MPAA/BSA (only MPAA is likely to care about single partial files anyhow...), but just that many files only exist on the e-mule network and similar networks as partial files.

I share files, typically keeping my connection >70% max upload bandwidth devoted to file sharing basically 24/7.

But I&#39;ve messaged literally 1,000&#39;s of paranoid people on Kazaa who don&#39;t -- and if I get a message back, it&#39;s something along those lines why they DON&#39;T share.

This seems a common theme even on other file-sharing programs.
They are unaware of the technology behind it OR the huge reduction of odds of being caught if even simple steps are taken.

Plese don&#39;t try to convince me, you&#39;re preaching to the choir. :P

WE need to figure out how to tell the average user -- and for that we need a way to REACH/MESSAGE the average user&#33;

Does E-mule or Shareaza support user messaging?

[thisiswhoweare]

you can message users.
But they will have to enable it to receive any.
There are three types of messaging, available to everyone, no-one, or to get messages from friends only. I keep mine open to everyone, so i can see if there are any files that needs putting to high priority.

I keep my uploads @ 10KB, for 24hrs, 7 days. Ive never uploaded more than 3GB (in total) when using kazaa. But ive uploaded 300GB+ on emule, simply because the rewards are better, its been thought out well, the files are spread well, and they generally will live longer to benefit everyone than it ever would on kazaa.

[silentbob]

i use k-lite for movies and music and i use BT for games and apps

[tralalala]

yes... i thought the same too about eMule till i got that damn virus...
it freaked me out... and ever since i swore not to use eMule ever again... :(

but k-lite is supplying me with everything i need right now&#33;&#33;&#33; :) :D


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

ive never encountered a single virus yet on emule. Got infected by one of the kazaa downloads a couple of times though. But most viruses that get sent to me are by friends, or people i dont know through email. Of course they dont know about it... (referring to friends and the occasional people).

[tralalala]

believe me thisiswhoweare... you can get infected with viruses/worms/trojans from any P2P client or network in the world.
nowadays, nothings safe, which is why people have invented the antiviruses&#33;&#33; :)


tralalala

[guit_steel]

Originally posted by Switeck@18 December 2003 - 19:20
WE need to figure out how to tell the average user -- and for that we need a way to REACH/MESSAGE the average user&#33;
Don&#39;t see how this is going to happen. The majority of users on a network like Kazaa are casual users at best. Only folks dedicated to filesharing and willing to put effort into the system — like on KL or eMule — r open to informing themselves. And like u said, they r the choir. ;)

[guit_steel]

Originally posted by tralalala@19 December 2003 - 08:56
believe me thisiswhoweare... you can get infected with viruses/worms/trojans from any P2P client or network in the world.
I&#39;ve dl infected files on FT and SS, never on eMule. Yet I would agree that anyone not checking all files with anti-virus is a dope&#33;

btw: Do u use the same screen name on eMule? I think I&#39;ve seen u in my ul queue. :D

[thisiswhoweare]

Originally posted by tralalala@19 December 2003 - 12:56
believe me thisiswhoweare... you can get infected with viruses/worms/trojans from any P2P client or network in the world.
nowadays, nothings safe, which is why people have invented the antiviruses&#33;&#33; :)


tralalala
:P lol, i know. I even mentioned this to you before when you said you were moving back to kazaa. But since emule has more verified sites, ive never gotten any viruses. :rolleyes: B)

[Switeck]

Originally posted by tralalala@19 December 2003 - 07:42
yes... i thought the same too about eMule till i got that damn virus...
it freaked me out... and ever since i swore not to use eMule ever again... :(
Did the virus DO anything till you ran (double-clicked) on the file you downloaded?

What was the file extension?
I&#39;ve seen viruses directly use EXE, VBS, DOC, TXT -> actually DOC, MP3 -> actually VBS, ASF/WMV/AVI/MPG -> actually ASF browser redirectors, and COM.

I get viruses and trojans from emails from time to time, but I haven&#39;t sworn off email because of it.

Connectivity comes at a price -- one that is increasing as certain industries feel we should NOT have access to generic, unmonitored file-sharing networks&#33;
(Keywords also: generic, unmonitored -- this means there isn&#39;t some agency to ensure there&#39;s no viruses/trojans on the network.)

At least with extremely bad email viruses, ISPs often start quarentining them for us because it hurts their bandwidth so much.

If you WANT a file-sharing network where you can search through a million users&#39; files, then you have to accept that there may be a virus or 2 mixed in all that...

[tralalala]

quite surprisingly, i wanted to open eMule for a moment to see if ther was a file i could search for... and as i opened eMule, the virus struck, and i had to reformat the PC...


tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

:lol: thats funny

ok its bad, but its ironically funny. (Dunno why just is).

Try deleting all the files in the temp folder, so its got nothing in the list when you open it. Or delete it and do a clean reinstall.
But you really shouldnt have been infected by it if your AV is updated, it should have deleted it or quarantined it.
Are you sure its deleted of the computer?

[tralalala]

ummmm thisiswhoweare... this happened some 3-4 weeks ago, and since had my comp reformatted - so there aint nothing to do. eMule isnt on my computer, and probably never will be unless k-lite is no longer available for use.

tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

really bizarre if you just installed a new emule and opened it up and WHAM&#33;
got a virus.

Really is.

Make sure windows is patched up. I got infected by the welchia virus as soon as I reformatted my computer :( needed a patch through windows update to protect myself.

Also use a firewall too and an up to date AV.

[thisiswhoweare]

ok im getting confused here....do you mean this has only happened once?

because from the post i get the impression you got it twice..

[tralalala]

lol mate - it happened ONCE and i had to reformat my PC.
i have norton internet security 2004, i have all the windows updates and so on and so on...

tralalala

[thisiswhoweare]

:) ok from what you typed i thought:

you downloaded something of emule and reformatted computer...

using kazaa...

got emule again to check for a file, and got virus again.

Reformatted again.

:D

guess it was just unlucky.

[tralalala]

never got INFECTED from k-lite, but the AV caught some worms, but never got infected.
its this single thingy from eMule that crashed my damn PC...


tralalala

[tralalala]

:)


tralalala

[Scattershot]

I use K-Lite 99% of the time. Occasionally use eMule and SoulSeek, but you have to stand in the queue for such a loooooong time -_-

[tralalala]

yeah, if soulseek had a "lite" version like k-lite, it would be heaven for music lovers such as me... :)


tralalala

[h121589]

i use k-lite & IRC

[tralalala]

how does IRC actually work?&#33; is it like k-lite?? never seen it in my life... i thought IRC was a chatting programme or something :huh:


tralalala

[supernico]

Bittorrent
K-lite
clean blubster

[boceli]

uTorrent + emule=cool :)

[stoi]

Now that is one hell of a bump lol

and 2 votes in the poll in 5 years, its not that embarrassing surely lol.

5 years ago i would have picked

Bittorrent
IRC
K-Lite
Emule

Now

None of them. (Bittorrent very occasionally).

[flashback3r]

Yeah, that was a bump allright:P

But bittorrent is teh shit ^^ that's my favorite way to p2p

[erngab]

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/images/smilies/whistling.gif

[cinephilia]

i've downloaded an insane amount of music from soulseek but i must admitt that i'm more into torrenting since 2 years.

[nthpeter]

Used KaZaa, WinMX, now uTorrent

[piratebot]

uTorrent

[meelad]

15 pages and only 10 votes!!

[Rigel9]

99% Azureus

[Sonnentier]

Times have changed - back then there were so many new networks, today it's the place that matters.

[Seed4Speed]

uTorrent lover :D

[h0r1a]

uTorrent

[Blackbeard]

Bittorrents (utorrent) sometimes limewire/ares raryly soulseek and dc++ is kinda to slow and hard to find stuff that i want..

[fstbirds]

Azureus and sometimes uTorrent.

[HINT]

uTorrent for ever

[Issbest]

BitTorrent of course!

[VinX]

well this is a really easy questionn
uTorrent FTW !!!

[HurriGame]

well.. bittorrent and irc.i also use dc++ from time to time for downloading some songs when i need.

[no_bother]

uTorrent!

[stl]

irc

[dorthe1972]

BitTorrent and irc

[NinjaX]

µTorrent, Soulseek & FlashFXP.

[meelad]

bittorrent and limewire and sometimes emule for rare files. also rapidshare though it is not technically p2p.

[iheartfiles]

Soulseek the most. Followed by Utorrent. Emule is the last resort.

[scarface]

I use uTorrent now.

[Bug]

newsgroup and bittorrent

[devour]

uTorrent
SoulSeek

[Frankthetank1]

i use utorrent

[vipervin]

uTorrent! Such a solid program.

[The_Martinator]

uTorrent here also.
I wasn't into filesharing before cause all my RL friend were getting viruses from it. When private trackers were introduced to me, I liked them, so...

[105802]

uTorrent

[sanjana]

I use Vuze and don't use the public torrents...

[jamoraquai]

uTorrent

[Crazysah]

If I wasn't using torrent I would be using Ares. I don't see it on the poll though.

[teresckova]

utorrent is the primary choice...

[r3volut1onx]

bittorrent is no1

[Ubuntuburningm]

bit torrent.. but you know suppliers of bit torrent on the scene use FTP most commonly to transfer files behind others eyes...

[fullparty]

I think that Utorrent Is the best P2P Programme

[0control]

Easily Bit Torrent, but at second place comes eMule, there's alot of quality stuff out there on the ed2k network.

[GuitarLegend]

utorrent FTW

[D1zkK1ll]

I think most of us using BitTorrent

[zetah]

i prefer BitTorrent