Who Is the best Usenet Provider?

[PastTense]

Or is everyone using multiple providers (one of the big 4 or so) plus a lesser known European provider who doesn't process takedowns as quickly?

PS. How do you pay for it (since a lot of sites no longer can accept Paypal)?

[stlc8tr]

My yearly sub is expiring soon so I'm also interested to hear about good alternatives to US providers since the takedowns are becoming such a PITA.

Thanks.

[Bhanche]

Tweaknews.eu is not suffering from DMCA takedowns, but it is getting overwhelmed with new customers, so they have speed issues.
They accept credit cards, if I remember correctly.

[Beck38]

Just reminding everyone (for the nth time) that non-US (or providers that don't maintain US-based server plants) have the down side of payment problems (and that payment processing was the major reason Newzbin(2) and the 'Matrix' ceased operations) although (for now) the aforementioned Tweaknews does advertised that it processes Visa/MC. Those (US) folks thinking of utilizing this (or chasing after others in a somewhat similar situation) to make sure that the CC you use has both the highest level of security AND (hopefully) a low rate of euros to dollars transaction fees.

Way back when (I was still working around the planet) I had a bank account with RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland), simply because I was working extensive periods of time in those areas of said planet where British banking ties went back decades if not centuries vrs. the minimal to non-existent US ones. Then RBS got into lots (I mean LOTS) of problems with both the British regulators not to mention the Euro-zone, I retired, and I consolidated my funds back to the US, so now I'm in the same boat as 'normal' folks so follow the strictures in paragraph (1) above.

If someone could suggest a good, re-loadable, card that would both give someone some 'security' yet be usable with major providers in the EU or even non-EU European providers, it'd be nice.

[user3240]

Tweaknews.eu is not suffering from DMCA takedowns, but it is getting overwhelmed with new customers, so they have speed issues.
They accept credit cards, if I remember correctly.

Tweaknews.eu does indeed have takedowns. The takedowns are slower because they operate under NL law. All major USP's are in compliance with their country's safe harbour laws.

[pootystomp]

It's quite a long time before the takedowns come into play. With the us providers sometimes you only have minutes with automated takedowns. Payments are always sketchy, with tweak the MasterCard payment uses securecode which adds secondary authentication, like PayPal.

[piercerseth]

Tweaknews.eu does indeed have takedowns. The takedowns are slower because they operate under NL law. All major USP's are in compliance with their country's safe harbour laws.
This. They're still under the purview of BREIN. I'd guess any country that's a Berne Convention signatory can take shit down. Having said that, despite their growing pains a block acct with them could be prudent.

[stlc8tr]

How bad are the speed issues with Tweaknews?

Like 10Mbit/sec bad? Or 2Mbit/sec (or less) bad?

I will use a disposable credit card (service that my BoA CC offers) so I'm not that worried about the security of the card.

[Pilferd]

How bad are the speed issues with Tweaknews?

Like 10Mbit/sec bad? Or 2Mbit/sec (or less) bad?

I will use a disposable credit card (service that my BoA CC offers) so I'm not that worried about the security of the card.


they have free trials, sign up without a card and check it out

speeds arent horrible

[tesco]

How bad are the speed issues with Tweaknews?

Like 10Mbit/sec bad? Or 2Mbit/sec (or less) bad?

I will use a disposable credit card (service that my BoA CC offers) so I'm not that worried about the security of the card.
I'm on a trial right now. Sick of the takedowns on newsdemon.
On tweaknews the speed seems to be jumping around, something 5mbps, sometimes it jumps up to my max 20mbps.

[user3240]

There is a new South African Usenet provider that gets its news from various servers in various countries. If it's not on one server, it hunts for the missing articles on another server. Speed is not their strong suit. It's not bad for a new company. They have a limited free trial. Has anybody else tried these guys?

https://www.nextgennews.net/

[hdjunky]

[url]https://www.nextgennews

they look just like another scam using other usenet providers secretly to run there service. once they catch on they will disable there access and you will be out the money and service. i feel like there is one of these type of services every year that pops up. what was that eu based one last year that everyone just loved cause it only cost like 3 bucks a month?

[ynotrhyme]

I like tweaknews ive been using it for a while now and its fvcking awesome but I got my 20mb/s installed today and tweaknews is maxing out at 15mb/s. Im using free trial. I want a server that hits 20MB/s solidly, does that even exist? Im willing to pay more too I don't care , as long as it hits 20MB/s all the time.

other than the speed issue, I highly recommend tweak for lower speeds.

[PastTense]

It's possible that the free trial has a lower maximum speed than the paid subscription at Tweaknews--did you check?

ynotrhyme: the consensus here seems to be that you need a couple of Usenet services for good service (too many gaps with just one service). So if you get another service and are downloading from both at the same time it should max out your downloading potential.

[user3240]

The trial is unlimited speed. Unless you live in Holland, you will not be maxing out a 100Mb connection on a consistent basis. The speeds are not great but it's not awful either. It works well as a backup block account.




[url]https://www.nextgennews

they look just like another scam using other usenet providers secretly to run there service. once they catch on they will disable there access and you will be out the money and service. i feel like there is one of these type of services every year that pops up. what was that eu based one last year that everyone just loved cause it only cost like 3 bucks a month?

Here is a traceroute. You be the judge.
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85.12.5.207 is from Netherlands(NL) in region Western Europe

TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 85.12.5.207 [news.nextgennews.net]
Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 0 0 0 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
2 111 111 111 4.69.145.254 vlan90.csw4.dallas1.level3.net
3 113 113 114 4.69.151.170 ae-93-93.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net
4 113 113 113 4.69.134.22 ae-7-7.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net
5 113 113 113 4.69.148.242 ae-63-63.ebr1.atlanta2.level3.net
6 113 117 113 4.69.148.106 ae-6-6.ebr1.washington12.level3.net
7 113 114 113 4.69.143.214 ae-1-100.ebr2.washington12.level3.net
8 113 113 113 4.69.201.69 -
9 112 113 113 4.69.137.69 ae-42-42.ebr2.london1.level3.net
10 111 112 111 4.69.143.81 ae-48-48.ebr2.amsterdam1.level3.net
11 113 112 112 4.69.153.202 ae-56-221.csw2.amsterdam1.level3.net
12 111 111 111 4.69.139.162 ae-21-52.car1.amsterdam1.level3.net
13 116 113 116 212.72.42.202 base-ip-b.v.car1.amsterdam1.level3.net
14 113 113 113 85.12.5.207 -

Trace complete

[chromatical]

Hey Guys.

I'm based in the UK and use a combination of tweaknews, supernews and astraweb. get varying speed results on my ADSL but most of the time is uses nearly all of the bandwidth.

[St0ry]

I like tweaknews ive been using it for a while now and its fvcking awesome but I got my 20mb/s installed today and tweaknews is maxing out at 15mb/s. Im using free trial. I want a server that hits 20MB/s solidly, does that even exist? Im willing to pay more too I don't care , as long as it hits 20MB/s all the time.

other than the speed issue, I highly recommend tweak for lower speeds.

Trial accounts don't offer enough connections. My 25mb connection is consistently maxed out with tweak.

[unoriginal]

[url]https://www.nextgennews

what was that eu based one last year that everyone just loved cause it only cost like 3 bucks a month?

gibinews. I used them as a filler account until they kept raising their price and eventually shut down the service.

[Usenetor]

Using XSNews and XLNed, stil the best for me, also what concerns DMCA problems

[CyberCitizen]

I have had very minimal DMCA issues (odd 1 or 2 sometimes old posts so revert to a torrent), normally my SABNZBD pulls the NZB file within 15 minutes of posting. Also have DogNZB access so could setup the watch list for instant pushing once detected.

· ISP's Usenet (Which Is Basically A Link To Astra)
· Hitnews (Free) Auto Updating Script
· XSUseNet (Free)
· BlockNews (Block Account US / EU)
· Also Had The 3x IP's For Just4Today (Haven't Worked In A Long Time)

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[nzbanon]

Astraweb and Tweaknews seem like a good place to start.

[Zaak]

Eh, i just use Giganews, there are some articles that get taken down (New movies that are cam recorded, or bluray releases etc...)
But its mostly good, nice retention and i get VPN included

[harry4200]

I have used Giganews but its very expensive. However, i like the retention.

[hogfish]

Astraweb and Tweaknews seem like a good place to start.

There are many complaints about Astraweb on the forum. There were more before the big data loss, though.

http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/451553-Astraweb-Storing-Your-Passwords-As-Plaintext
http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/451812-Issue-DMCA-Astraweb-Bad-post

[Ostap]

Giganews ftw

[sandman_1]

Giganews ftw

Surely you jest.

[DasFox]

Hey Guys. I'm based in the UK and use a combination of tweaknews, supernews and astraweb. get varying speed results on my ADSL but most of the time is uses nearly all of the bandwidth. Supernews has bad take downs and SCREW Astraweb, did you read their Policy? http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/452352-Stay-away-from-astraweb!

[stlc8tr]

How bad are the speed issues with Tweaknews?

Like 10Mbit/sec bad? Or 2Mbit/sec (or less) bad?

I will use a disposable credit card (service that my BoA CC offers) so I'm not that worried about the security of the card.

I took the plunge and signed up. So far, it's kinda meh.

The trial subscription was decent. Got around 10Mbit/sec. so I figured that the 10MBit/sec subscription was the one to go for.

But after I subscribed to the 10Mbit/sec plan, my actual speeds today are around 7Mbit/sec. Don't know if this is an issue with speeds during the day or if the trial subscription had a higher speed limit than the 10Mbit plan.

So it's not horrible but not that great. Oh well, let's see how often I run into DMCA issues.

[DngrMs]

7 megabits a second? What's your downlink speed... :unsure:

My only general suggestion is that for a different perspective on providers people might perhaps learn Cyrillic.

[stlc8tr]

I have a slow downlink. Only around 14Mbit/sec. Not a lot of choices in providers around here. At least the ISP is pretty cool in that they don't meter. They let you download as much as you want. Of course, with a 14Mbit/sec downlink, I don't think I can do much more than around 1.3TB in a month even if I tried to download 24/7.

Speeds seem a little better today but still can't get 10Mbit/sec. Oh well, it's good enough for now as I'm splitting my downloading between newsgroups and torrents.

[St0ry]

I find tweaknews has some slowdowns during the day (US time). After about 9pm PST it'll max out my line (~3.4MB/sec) but during the day I'll get anywhere from 1.2-1.8MB/sec.

[sarsipius]

tweaknews works well for me. Rarely incomplete files particularly for anything only a few days old but the hit miss ratio goes up the older the file is.

[hiko]

Tweaknews is inconsistent. I was subscribed to their 10Mbit connection and went through a prolonged period of sub-standard speeds (averaging less than half the maximum speed), I then decided to take the plunge and give their 50Mbit service a go once I upgraded to BT Infinity & everything was fine for the first three months, but now I'm back down to less than 5Mbit speeds when I can actually connect to their servers (which is half the time).

If solid speeds & good retention are more important to you than the speed of DNS takedowns, then my recommendation is to give Supernews (http://www.supernews.com/super-special/#) a go, IIRC they use the Giganews servers.

[Cowsland]

Anyone tried the newsleecher usenet server ?
I'm wondering how they are with takedowns

[piercerseth]

Anyone tried the newsleecher usenet server ?
I'm wondering how they are with takedowns

They resell UNS/Highwinds. Meh. I like their newsreader though.

Edit: Speaking of HW, reddit mentioned a Newsdemon promotion: 5USD/mo. "unlimited" Maybe that's more your speed? Not sure how long that runs for, or if you can click on FST's ad and then enter the promo code?

[ng4ever]

I could say but don't want to risk it. Sorry. Will give you a hint though it can be found on the internet. Just give me content that is DMCA on your end with what your searching for or the NZB and I will be able to download it.

Newsleecher usenet server sucks.

[gorilla09]

thanks to all for the feedback thus far, very helpful and informative for me making my next usenet provider of choice.

[s6h9i]

There is a new South African Usenet provider that gets its news from various servers in various countries. If it's not on one server, it hunts for the missing articles on another server. Speed is not their strong suit. It's not bad for a new company. They have a limited free trial. Has anybody else tried these guys?

https://www.nextgennews.net/

hey,

Did you manage to successfully acquire a trial acct with these guys? I tried signing up with a GV number and I keep getting an error message about being "unable to deliver an SMS". Is there special formatting if you're from the states? TIA

[ng4ever]

There is a new South African Usenet provider that gets its news from various servers in various countries. If it's not on one server, it hunts for the missing articles on another server. Speed is not their strong suit. It's not bad for a new company. They have a limited free trial. Has anybody else tried these guys?

https://www.nextgennews.net/

hey,

Did you manage to successfully acquire a trial acct with these guys? I tried signing up with a GV number and I keep getting an error message about being "unable to deliver an SMS". Is there special formatting if you're from the states? TIA

Yep I did. I forgot what it was. Won't bother because I hate them. That part was tricky though.

[shyflyguy]

thanks for the usenet info. been a while since i've used these but never had any issues finding most things over usenet.

[abum]

Edit: Speaking of HW, reddit mentioned a Newsdemon promotion: 5USD/mo. "unlimited" Maybe that's more your speed? Not sure how long that runs for, or if you can click on FST's ad and then enter the promo code?

Old news, but I signed up for that deal. It's real cheap, but not worth it imo after being with them for the past 1 1/2months

@ 12-13 connections I'm getting usually around 500-900kbps to their SSL EU/US servers, where as with Astraweb 12 connections = 1000kpbs (I only have a 10mb connection) all the time, consistently. Latency also seems really high for some reason vs Astraweb.

And recently I've had server connection issues with both the EU/US servers, as well as missing content on usenet (as in, "article not found") vs Astraweb, although that's more likely to be a Highwinds issue.

[exnihilo]

Anyone tried the newsleecher usenet server ?
I'm wondering how they are with takedowns

I'm also interested in this.. Especially with how long their retention is.

[MysticRiffs]

I use NewsLeecher, and they're not too bad... I think that, like most providers, they get picked on every so often to keep them honest, until the official cyberbullies go pick on another USP. :) If there's a way to indicate incompletes and known PW'd ups, though, it's beyond my ken.