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messy
05-15-2013, 08:08 PM
Hi,

Can someone help me clarify an issue I'm having with a specific post? It's incomplete and impossible to repair.
I can't figure out if this was a DMCA takedown, an Astraweb issue, or if it's just a bad post (incomplete on all providers).

You can find the post by searching for "131770" on any indexer.

Please, keep in mind that I know how to repair/rename this kind of posts, but in this case there are not enough blocks available.

Thanks in advance

Hypatia
05-15-2013, 09:00 PM
In this particular case it's AW's problem.
They have certain gaps in retention due to some, i guess, failures on their side.

This release is heavily damaged on the EU server and to a lesser extent on US server.
I suggest that you get a backup block account

piercerseth
05-15-2013, 09:01 PM
The 430s that I've seen as a result of takedowns often say as much with "DMCA Removed" in the log. That doesn't appear to be the case in this instance. Like Hypatia said, NZBcc shows quite a lot of broken bits.


Edit: Hypatia beat me to it.

DngrMs
05-15-2013, 09:03 PM
Did you get the two other sets of pars that are available?

Edit: actually the post is fine on a non-astra provider, I just got it with no missing parts or repair required.



General
Complete name : .\131770\iguana-ame.1080p.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 6.56 GiB
Duration : 1h 40mn
Overall bit rate : 9 295 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2013-03-28 00:50:25
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.7.0 ('The Whirlwind') built on Jul 8 2012 20:08:51
Writing library : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0
Video #1
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Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
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Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
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Scan type : Progressive
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Writing library : x264 core 130 r2273 b3065e6
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Default : Yes
Forced : No
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Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
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Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 462 MiB (7%)
Language : French
Default : Yes
Forced : No
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Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
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messy
05-15-2013, 10:02 PM
In this particular case it's AW's problem.
They have certain gaps in retention due to some, i guess, failures on their side.

This release is heavily damaged on the EU server and to a lesser extent on US server.
I suggest that you get a backup block account

That's what I suspected. I've seen cases like this before, but wasn't sure of the cause.
What is the recommended provider for backup accounts? Please, note that I live in Europe.
And shouldn't I just change provider instead of staying with Astraweb, since I never heard about other providers having these "gaps"?


Did you get the two other sets of pars that are available?

Edit: actually the post is fine, I just got it with no missing parts or repair required.

(...)


The other par's were for the sample and proof.
You managed to get it with Astraweb?!

Beck38
05-15-2013, 11:22 PM
More Euro-Trash (not following posting rules) that is being properly lined-out as spam. The fact that other operations are not deleting it en-masse (or that Astra isn't deleting it totally which is what would happen if indeed it was DMCA'd) is simply an error on the part of those other operations.

All these 'mini-postings' (thousands of very small parts trying to masquerade to run 'under the radar') appears to be folks with nothing better to do than flood unsnet with spam and Astra auto-delete is trying to deal with them properly.

Hopefully at some point all the operators will wake up to all of this and start deleting it when it comes in, either by posting or by peering.

messy
05-15-2013, 11:52 PM
I don't know why but my post wasn't showing up here.


In this particular case it's AW's problem.
They have certain gaps in retention due to some, i guess, failures on their side.

This release is heavily damaged on the EU server and to a lesser extent on US server.
I suggest that you get a backup block account

With what provider did you check?


Did you get the two other sets of pars that are available?

Edit: actually the post is fine on a non-astra provider, I just got it with no missing parts or repair required.

(...)


Which provider did you use?


More Euro-Trash (not following posting rules) that is being properly lined-out as spam. The fact that other operations are not deleting it en-masse (or that Astra isn't deleting it totally which is what would happen if indeed it was DMCA'd) is simply an error on the part of those other operations.

All these 'mini-postings' (thousands of very small parts trying to masquerade to run 'under the radar') appears to be folks with nothing better to do than flood unsnet with spam and Astra auto-delete is trying to deal with them properly.

Hopefully at some point all the operators will wake up to all of this and start deleting it when it comes in, either by posting or by peering.

This is not spam. All x264 scene releases are now posted this way.

DngrMs
05-16-2013, 12:38 AM
More Euro-Trash (not following posting rules) that is being properly lined-out as spam.


This is not spam. All x264 scene releases are now posted this way.

I didn't think there was anything wrong with the post either. Am I missing a rule?


Which provider did you use?

Rather ironically I don't share that info.

pootystomp
05-16-2013, 03:38 AM
I feel like not sharing is undermining the premise of fst and all its users, but, I'm not sharing either.

2501
05-16-2013, 04:29 AM
tweaknews / hitnews if you want to beat dmca for max 24h after post
astraweb+blocknews is good enough to download everything if you use sickbeard & etc

not reccommennded: anything from highwinds,giganews,or xsnews they are faster on the gun than astra.

Hypatia
05-16-2013, 10:30 AM
Beck, really?

I will just say that your "analysis" of the situation leaves much to be desired, to say the least.


Messy, nowadays dmcaed stuff is deleted completely. So if you nzb check a certain release and checker shows random incompletes it is most likely to be the case of
1)screw up during upload
2)screw up on a provider's side afterwards

messy
05-16-2013, 10:57 AM
I think I understand why people don't want to share what provider they're using.
That's fine, but you can also send me a private message.


tweaknews / hitnews if you want to beat dmca for max 24h after post
astraweb+blocknews is good enough to download everything if you use sickbeard & etc

I always get my nzb's manually, and honestly, I rarely find DMCA'd posts, unless I try to get TV Shows.
Of course, it would be nice to have a provider that doesn't comply with DMCA at all...


not reccommennded: anything from highwinds,giganews,or xsnews they are faster on the gun than astra.

That's interesting. I always thought Astraweb was the worst, when it came to DMCA compliance.

nntpjunkie
05-16-2013, 06:31 PM
These days Astraweb is typically the fastest to do takedowns, try out different providers and decide for yourself, what works for some of us may not work for others, it really depends on your tastes and preferences and what you are ultimately looking for...