Decent alternative(s) to IPT?

[n00bz0r]

Sick of their bullshit rules regarding HnRs and infinite seedtime they expect from the members. If that wasn't enough, now you also get warned if you turn your PC off for 5 days and resume seeding on the 6th day, even if you have already been seeding a file for weeks. :lol:
Anyway, I'd really like to know if there are any decent alternatives to the aforementioned site where the staffers actually know what a HnR means and understand that one cant expect scene crap to be seeded indefinitely. Decent retentivity/speeds would be great.

[darkblue]

torrentday is best alternative
there is filelist also
i never criticize IPT for hnr and zaping system even i advocate them but they are going too far now and hnr system becoming so confusing
they are becoming more greedy for donations.you can break any rule after donation :D

[stan]

I second Torrentday. Most of the P2P stuff is botted over to TD from IPT in just a few minutes.

Also the freeleech is truly freeleech still. On IPT if you have to zap with upload credit your ratio might end up worse than before you started. Activity is also vastly down on IPT. The days of getting ratio every time has long gone.

[geminiking01]

I was about to ask the same thing. The H&R system is ridiculous. I have a great ratio at iptorrents but I have a few H&Rs because I download software that is older and harder to seed. I would like to find a decent alternative that has software.

[stan]

Probably torrentleech.

At least it is just seed those for 72 hours minimum.

[n00bz0r]

Cool. I'll look around for an invitation to torrentday now.
Thanks for the input, guys. Much appreciated.

[anon]

Filelist.ro is great, as is Linkomanija. Sadly only VIPs can send invitations at FL right now, and I don't even know how the invite system works on LM.

[absent_today]

nCore and LM the only problem with LM is seeders are visible more during there evening you would see a sudden drop in seeders at late nights/mornings , though nCore is truly fantastic it can even beat pornolab to a extent when it comes to porn :naughty:

I really hate IPT but the amount of content they have is immense so single tracker can actually replace them and since they allow multiple uploads of same movie,game or tv show you can find many things there which you wont find anywhere.For LM its being sorted on basis of downloads and for nCore its sorted by seeders only on Xvid Eng Movies if i sort on all torrents the top seeded torrent has more than 8000-10000 seeders which is normal since the no of members is 515000 :D and its ratio free I would rather seed on nCore for weeks than on IPT since they actually reward you for seeding.

http://i.imgur.com/WtEL3Qh.jpg

I forget to mention no rar shit on either site

[justlooking]

Users seem to be adopting a 2 tracker policy. They get most of their stuff from the lesser tracker because it doesn't have a messy hit and run or tough ratio requirements, and keep their better tracker for the rare stuff they can't get elsewhere. Some people hardly use their what.cd account, and dl mostly from rutracker for example. Some are using speed.cd as that #2 tracker to avoid using IPT for stuff they can't seed back 1:1.

[IdolEyes787]

I was about to ask the same thing. The H&R system is ridiculous. I have a great ratio at iptorrents but I have a few H&Rs because I download software that is older and harder to seed. I would like to find a decent alternative that has software.

Don't all you have to do is seed for like 24 hours and then "zap" it with your accumulated bonus points? I'm probably missing something but that's even more forgiving than the ratioless trackers I belong to.:unsure:
On the other hand IPT has merwais so fuck them.:@

[absent_today]

I have seen people seeding for 48 hours and then zap but still getting the warning

[Bartowski58]

I have seen people seeding for 48 hours and then zap but still getting the warningJust because they do in the wrong way. You need to delete fist the active torrent before Zap them.

Beside that yes the actual rules on IPT sucks in a wide way. SCC has better times and the Archive section is a way better choice to get old material. Cons is hard to get an invite

[megabyteme]

I liked the site greatly befor they decided to start playing with what was already working. Now, I seed for several weeks and still get snagged for H&R. :idunno:

[absent_today]

I have seen people seeding for 48 hours and then zap but still getting the warningJust because they do in the wrong way. You need to delete fist the active torrent before Zap them.

Beside that yes the actual rules on IPT sucks in a wide way. SCC has better times and the Archive section is a way better choice to get old material. Cons is hard to get an invite
I know that but if you keep zapping them without seeding you get a warning

[Alien5]

just let 4 warnings build up then zap them with a 5 dollar donation. :D

[shipwreck]

ncore is a good alternative, if you can deal with the Hungarian layout (-> Google Chrome), as there is no English layout available yet (if ever). Huge amount of content, good speeds and even scene releases (e.g. games) are unrared by default.

[dorukhan]

ncore and filelist.

[anon]

ncore is a good alternative, if you can deal with the Hungarian layout (-> Google Chrome), as there is no English layout available yet (if ever).

When they had invite applications, the form was available in Hungarian and English. Either they're too lazy to translate the whole site or they just want us to pick things up as we go.

[absent_today]

I was lucky to get into nCore actually i saw Cabalgo posting a screenshot and the screenshot lured me and someone from here got me invited the amount of content and seeders are terrific at the moment only Elite users can invite and probably the only tracker where user class keeps changing so you can't reach the top and just stay there and nCore can easily beat IPT in Porn and Games and they have more seeders than IPT and with just 48 hours of seed time though i seed longer since you receive bonus points.A quick stats shows below :-



Number of users:
510 258


User:
310 997


Member:
158 038


Elite:
37 779


Legend:
3113


Number Present:
8 436 (1.65%)


Been here for a day:
227 231 (44.53%)


Been here a week ago:
406 525 (79.67%)


A month ago, I visited
491 198 (96.26%)





Number of torrents:
334 656


Torrents size:
480.3 TB





All contacts
6840128


Seeders:
6436856


Leechers:
403 272


Real Leechers:
15 337


Seeder / Leecher Ratio:
1596%


Download speed:
11:01 GB / s


Average rate:
753.04 KB / s

[mjmacky]

I was lucky to get into nCore actually i saw Cabalgo posting a screenshot and the screenshot lured me and someone from here got me invited the amount of content and seeders are terrific at the moment only Elite users can invite and probably the only tracker where user class keeps changing so you can't reach the top and just stay there and nCore can easily beat IPT in Porn and Games and they have more seeders than IPT and with just 48 hours of seed time though i seed longer since you receive bonus points.A quick stats shows below :-

Who went and got you pregnant? You appear to have stopped having periods.

[oshb5ems]

Well I was just about to chuck $20 at IPTorrents to jin I think I may hang fire a while. At the moment Im with Torrentday (with 5 invites if I need to use them that is ) and Torrenting.com And as far as I know are my only two private trackers I will have to go through a few of the older ones I joined about 4-5 years ago as some of those may be private by now.

I only watch TV and could do with another decent TV Torrents site if anyone can suggest one and I could chuck some dollars at it to get a invite or join?

Regs Osh

[eighthsin013]

Yeah I have joined over at IPT. I cant seem to seed very well with them for some reason. I joined at torrentday, and got my upload up over 150 gbs in a day. The speeds I get at ipt just don't compare. I spoke with them, and was told I was choosing the wrong torrent to try to get my ratio up. I just donated to get my ratio up higher and avoid the hnr's.

Is torrentleech better? I have heard good stuff about them but, other than an ivite don't see a way to join. Torrenday was cool, invite or donation to join.

[stan]

150 gb in a day?.Either you have a great home speed or a seedbox.

The trick on IPT to get a little buffer is to go for brand new torrents over 8 gb from near the top of the first page of browse. The one's showing no seeder. What is happening is that the uploader is waiting for staff to make it freeleech.Once granted he will start seeding. Till you get the hang of it it is best if you do only a small part of a pack rather than a single file 30 gb bluray.

Remember freeleech on ipt is not really freeleech. You must make ratio on the part you download.. Or zap with either seedpoints or upload credit. At this stage you will have few bonus points so it would have to be upload credit. Get it wrong and your ratio might get worse instead of better.

Torrentday is a sister site to IPT. TL is probably harder to seed to than IPT.

[CleverMan]

PreToMe must be pretty good (and ratioless, but no glitchy HnR system). And filelistRo

[LazyGuy]

i'd suggest you try Filelist.ro and/or Torrentleech
is there any reason for not using public trackers?

[eighthsin013]

Yes I have a seedbox. But it just cant seem to do weel with IPT, downloaded a file from torrentday, and was seeding it just fine. Had the same file at IPT, so I was trying to seed it there also, and nothing. ANd I would love to try torrentleech, have heard good stuff about them, but they havent had a free signup in quite awhile, and I missed the last one.

[megabyteme]

Well I was just about to chuck $20 at IPTorrents to jin I think I may hang fire a while. At the moment Im with Torrentday (with 5 invites if I need to use them that is ) and Torrenting.com And as far as I know are my only two private trackers I will have to go through a few of the older ones I joined about 4-5 years ago as some of those may be private by now.

I only watch TV and could do with another decent TV Torrents site if anyone can suggest one and I could chuck some dollars at it to get a invite or join?

Regs Osh

Don't pay to get in a site. Get in through an invite, and decide later if you care to support their efforts. Subtle difference, but is generally seen as less "dirty" in terms of money handling on a site.

[raghuveer]

even i have been warned for hit n run

[Alien5]

By less dirty, you mean clean?

[absent_today]

He meant politically correct , if OP is looking for TV only then he should look for BTN instead

[megabyteme]

He meant politically correct

Somewhat. When a tracker sells access to its doors, it give a HUGE impression that it is selling the content it contains as there is a DEFINITE promise of the resources it contains. Also, any pretension of "security" or being a "private" site are blown out of the water. It becomes a for-profit business open to anyone with $10-$20.

While there are several sites that beat the drums of "donation" to the point of greedy profit, there is an essential element between buying access and helping the site pay its necessary bills.

[eighthsin013]

Yes but sometimes invites are hard to come by. If you don't know someone its next to impossible sometimes.

[megabyteme]

Yes but sometimes invites are hard to come by. If you don't know someone its next to impossible sometimes.

The more The Industries can show their property is being sold, the easier it is for them to get legal sympathy/support. Think of the difference between lending someone a book/album/movie and selling them a copy.

Scarcity does create demand, but you will find there are easier/cheaper/better ways to access this community. Look at how Paypal has clamped down on donations in the past year or so. Now many small, not-for-profit sites are having GREAT struggles paying for their server bills. The more money is involved in filesharing, the more likely it is to dry up.That is bad for the whole community.

[eighthsin013]

All very true. And I understand it completely. I've just started trying to get access to private sites. I donated to get access to one, and then got an invite to the other thru someone who was a mod and helping me with my seedbox issue. Still it seems just wrong somehow to just come out asking for an invite to the site that I want. I've joined another site and they did their donations where they sent it to my paypal account, which I wasn't too keen on. The way that some of these sites treat the invites is kinda ridiculous, I know they need to do whats best for their site, but if you don't give people a chance, you will never know what they might bring to that site.

[shipwreck]

Paranoia is not an option, it's the only way to survive.

This said, I agree that certain sites overdo it a little in this regard, as it's more or less impossible to join them the 'right way', means not paying for an invite. That's just sad really.

But IPT really isn't one of those trackers, as it's not very difficult to join.

[robogo25]

Child IPT staff,

IPT hnr system is sucks :angry:

This is a disgusting HNR system

but there TorrentDay, TorrentLeech and SCC ;)

[Hazardous]

He meant politically correct

Somewhat. When a tracker sells access to its doors, it give a HUGE impression that it is selling the content it contains as there is a DEFINITE promise of the resources it contains. Also, any pretension of "security" or being a "private" site are blown out of the water. It becomes a for-profit business open to anyone with $10-$20.

While there are several sites that beat the drums of "donation" to the point of greedy profit, there is an essential element between buying access and helping the site pay its necessary bills.

I agree with this, but both IPT and TorrentDay are selling access to their site - even as others say TD is a replacement for IPT. The only difference is that TD is cheaper at $12 versus $20 on IPT

[x264]

When it comes to the most important aspect, the amount of torrents, the only real alternative seems to be ncore. Both iPT and ncore have around 300 000 torrents. Others have at least 100 000 less.

[absent_today]

Total Torrents

IPT - 307949
nCore - 336143



Games - IPT - 12068
nCore - 15205

XXX - IPT - 40000~
nCore - 91000~

Movies - IPT - 82000~
nCore - 14000 ~ [nCore does not allow any R5 , TS]

Music - IPT - 12000~
nCore - 72000~

eBooks/Apps/Mobile - IPT - 50000~
nCore - 64000~

TV - IPT - 96000~
nCore - 36000~

[smcewa11]

Cant you just seed 50x small files for a few weeks and build a mega points buffer or does that not work?

[scorpion21]

Torrentday and Torrentleech

[eighthsin013]

Total Torrents

IPT - 307949
nCore - 336143



Games - IPT - 12068
nCore - 15205

XXX - IPT - 40000~
nCore - 91000~

Movies - IPT - 82000~
nCore - 14000 ~ [nCore does not allow any R5 , TS]

Music - IPT - 12000~
nCore - 72000~

eBooks/Apps/Mobile - IPT - 50000~
nCore - 64000~

TV - IPT - 96000~
nCore - 36000~

No offense or anything. But it looks like nCOre is only good for porn and music as compared to IPT. Having been on IPT. I would say that for what I've seen TorrentDay is the best alternative. Although I've heard good stuff about Torrentleech. Just need to get on there myself. But I will at some point.

[absent_today]

For movies i have given the list only for English if we consider Hungarian too they have lot more than IPT, and nCore does not allow any crap encoder upload

[shipwreck]

That's a pretty selective interpretation anyway. Going by those raw numbers, nCore seems to have more torrents in every category bar movies and TV and the total number of torrents is higher, too.

There are a dozen or more good or even excellent dedicated movie / TV trackers available, but general trackers with such a huge number of torrents in other areas are rather rare.

[justlooking]

Of course Rutracker has over 1 1/4 million torrents.

Registered users: 13,259,855

Distributions: 1,404,344 live: 1,263,506 Size: 2.294 PB

Peers: 10,506,626 seeds: 9,691,037 lychee: 815.589

[stuffedgoose]

Never been on IPT. Torrentday is great for movies and shows but doesnt have the same amount of ebooks and e-learning material as a bunch of the other trackers. Still havent found anything serviceable.

[robogo25]

one good alternative Filelist.ro - fantastic Pack and Collection torrents :)

138,000 torrents 500,000 + users :)

[absent_today]

I don't agree FL.RO to be a good alternative the one point where nCore really shines on is speeds on older torrents but thanks to Hungary good ISP

[robogo25]

nCore

no Pack
no CAM,
no hdrip, brrip
limited torrents only max 2 rls/categories

:)

[shipwreck]

No CAM - no loss

No hdrip, brrip - no loss either -> outdated codec used for both, brrip re-encoding already re-encoded x264 BluRay rips and hence being the crappiest "HD" content you can possibly download.

No Packs - We love our packs, don't we? Packs, especially when freeleech, may make sense on ratio trackers to help users to maintain a good ratio, but are much less of an issue on a ratio free tracker like nCore.

Not sure about your last point as I fail to decrypt the Eng(r)lish, but that's probably no issue either.

P.S.: Fast internet access is quite common in Romania, too, so that's not necessarily an advantage nCore has over Filelist.ro.

[IdolEyes787]

No Packs - We love our packs, don't we?



So what you're saying is since I like a good piece of fish,I should also eat the scales.
Perfect sense.

[shipwreck]

I was being ironic.

But to be fair, there is nothing wrong with packs, as you can easily just select that good piece of fish out of them and ignore the scales. Or the other way around, if you're the typical anti-mainstream hipster with a chip on your shoulder.

[eyembroke]

I use both IPT and TL. IPT does seem to be just after your money. The 1 day left donation banner stayed up for like 3 days....too funny. I dont really have a issue with IPT (although i agree with the rules being ridiculous). I have a standalone computer on my network for torrenting that i just leave running. If i want to game online ill just pause the seeding so my ping isnt outrageous, then when done restart the seeding. I find it real easy to get a ratio on IPT. Download the freeleech porn and seed it for weeks.

IPT is one of those trackers that if you cant keep a computer up and running (seeding all day) that you should stay away from.

[absent_today]

I guess 2 torrent limit is for uploading which he is trying to say , with nCore only allowing good quality video allows more seeders on single which leads to large seeders on older torrents.Over the last 4 months they have made there uploading rules even more tighter they banned some re-packer games group since they always used to have some or other problem so the message is clear they only want quality uploads

[x264]

But TL isn't real iPT alternative. It has a lot less torrents. Is there any other English tracker that can go chest to chest with iPT?

[shipwreck]

A number of good alternatives have been mentioned in this thread. While they all are located somewhere in Eastern Europe, the vast majority of the content is English, and it's not a challenge for English speaking users to navigate them, unless they are mentally handicapped.

[teh5dow]

TorrentDay and maybe Filelist.ro :)

[oshb5ems]

Users seem to be adopting a 2 tracker policy. They get most of their stuff from the lesser tracker because it doesn't have a messy hit and run or tough ratio requirements, and keep their better tracker for the rare stuff they can't get elsewhere. Some people hardly use their what.cd account, and dl mostly from rutracker for example. Some are using speed.cd as that #2 tracker to avoid using IPT for stuff they can't seed back 1:1.

Yes I do the same But I use TorrentDay ans my main tracker . I would say 99% of my D/l come from there Before I got a seed box I had to use publick trackers becausemy speed and monthly data cap would not allow me to seed back as much as I would have liked to so for all the time pre seedbox my ratio was more or less dead on 1 which was maintained by what litte I could share back or having to get stuff from public trackers or as I did a fair few time donated $5 $10 and once even $30 but it keept me on the right side of the 1-1 ratio plus gave me lots of VIP time and quite a few invites to play with In fact I still have 5 I think. But now iv got the seedbox and had it a couple of weeks iv managed to up nearly 400gb and get my ratio up to 1.2 as i had already done over 1Tb before I had the seedbox. So its going to take some getting back but I want at least a 2 or 3 to 1 ratio The other torrent site is ok for D.
/l as they appear quite quickly but no one d/ls them so you can soon drop your ratio. I think I would like to join IPT but I saw the page where you can donate £20 to get in But what if I do and dont like it. Id rather get a invite first to try it Then if its ok I dont mind donating. I mean even now with TD even so I have the seed box and it makes my ratio OK I will still donate as The guys who run and set all the gear up are doing a sterling job and dont get much out of it for what they put in do they? I mean they spend ages setting it all up then ages maintaining it all plus keeping up with how fast technology changes so are constantly upgrading I bet Only then to have to start asking for help with the systems uptake If it was me I would make every one pay a fee It would get rid of the garb and go types or those that just sit and take and take but never give. But thats just my thought on the subject..
This always happens once I get going I seam to talk and talk LOL

So thats it for now. Sorry if your one of those takers but like I said its just how and what I feel.

Osh

[starice]

Torrentleech

[absent_today]

Now they have come up with seeding rule of 17 days , seriously they must take a guitar and run on the road asking for money instead

[justlooking]

Now they have come up with seeding rule of 17 days


Maybe it's just my imagination, but it seems like IPT is trying to hurt itself badly when it's been so successful. All this tinkering is driving people away, imo anyway.

[absent_today]

Maybe its time to start using greedytorrent on ipt many of my friends have being using since 2-3 years and they don't have a single hnr also have more upload stats since they download and get there upload statz handled by greedy torrent

[megabyteme]

While the stuff they are doing is odd, it is still pretty easy to rack up 50 points and "zap" the straggler torrents. If I couldn't do that, then I'd be more irritated. As it is, I just go with it. :idunno:

[mjmacky]

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[justlooking]

I'm not even complaining about their rules, take it or leave it. It just seems to me that they should encourage people to seed longer and buy that extra 3TB hard drive by making the bonus points more useful and having some members who are on other good trackers bring quality stuff to IPT, not have those 50 similar versions of movies. Pissing people off is hardly the best way to improve a tracker. Look at what What.cd did with it's PU forums to encourage people to contribute more.

[SgtMajor]

You don't HAVE to seed for 17 days, but it means if you have a piss poor connection and you download an old (or new) 10gb pack and only upload 10mb in 399 hours, then after 17 days it is considered 1:1 and the torrent is marked as fully seeded, you can continue to seed, or not as the case may be.

You may also donate, or use your buffer or use your seed points, or now use the 17 day rule to mark the torrent as completed, nothing wrong with having choices.

But like all the huge general 0day sites, it's a cash cow for the owners, they stopped worrying about the old values of file sharing a long long time ago.

[IdolEyes787]

.... they should encourage people to seed longer and buy that extra 3TB hard drive by making the bonus points more useful .... Look at what What.cd did with it's PU forums to encourage people to contribute more.

Good point and totally unrelated to coercion or anything.

In retrospect I guess was being unfair to the large Italian gentleman who was merely encouraging me to pay my gambling debts by breaking my legs.

Sorry Guido.

Btw and here I be serious,I knew that IPT was taking a slow boat to Hell as soon as they created a FLAC section.

[absent_today]

But 17 days I think no tracker wants to me to seed for that long even on BCG i can get SP much faster and IPT is a ratio based tracker.


EDIT - I forget to mention that I wanted to choke the developer of IPT who couldnt even code a simple seed record time system seems like they are getting there work done from Afghanistan to save money

[SgtMajor]

It's also possible to get 50 points by seeding well before the 17 days seeding point on IPT, thus enabling you to zap the torrent much earlier than 17 days, it's horses for courses and choices, no-one forces anyone to download from anywhere, but before you do just be aware of their rules on their site of where ever that happens to be and if you don't like their rules, go elsewhere, there's always more than 1 pub that sells beer :cheers:

[mrtoke09]

It's also possible to get 50 points by seeding well before the 17 days seeding point on IPT, thus enabling you to zap the torrent much earlier than 17 days, it's horses for courses and choices, no-one forces anyone to download from anywhere, but before you do just be aware of their rules on their site of where ever that happens to be and if you don't like their rules, go elsewhere, there's always more than 1 pub that sells beer :cheers:

thats all i do these days seed get pionts zap them dam torrents ;) just seen the 17 days thing today tbh abit damm long im on sites ask 24 hours some 48 hours others a week youd think the seeders leechers they have there they wouldnt be so bad i tend let shit run till need space anyway so dont really worry about things even after zapping them normally let it go on just a peace of mind thing and get piont for next torrent :P ...and heyy btw dont you run a anotherplace bro are you did

[1000possibleclaws]

Can't you just zap torrents away by subtracting upload, the option next to zapping with points? That brings you to 1:1 without having to actually seed that torrent. Just get a seedbox and you can mine terabytes of upload in a week on that site, most likely, and never have to seed again.

[SgtMajor]

Can't you just zap torrents away by subtracting upload, the option next to zapping with points? That brings you to 1:1 without having to actually seed that torrent. Just get a seedbox and you can mine terabytes of upload in a week on that site, most likely, and never have to seed again.

Yes you can, that works too :D

Some will seed the 10 smallish torrents just for seed points, if you seed these for 24/7, you will get the max of 48 points per day (you can't earn more than this no matter if you seed 20 or 200 torrents).

Just have to balance out, best to zap with seed points or upload credit, or seed for 17 days or donate, it's all about having options.