Best Cards For Proformance

[krome]

Which is a good card for Proformance, besides the ghaphic and FX..

ATI RADEON™ 9800 or 128MB DDR GeForce FX 5200....

[Evil Gemini]

:o OMG man the ATI RADEON 9800 pisses over the FX 5200

[L0rD_S0tH]

comparing a fx 5200 to a 9800!? Thats nuts. Go with the 9800 all the way.

Did you mean the Fx 5900? or 5950?

[raiserblade2003]

well if u are comparing those 2 it seem kinda unfair. the 5200 is the low end card, like the mx series. but then again, the 9800 cost 3x as much as the 5200.

[Supernatural]

Depends on how much you are willing to spend. Get a Radeon 9800 if if u can afford it, or a GeForce 5950. 9700 are great deals if u can find them. There are still a couple circling around, so snatch one up while you can. Radeon 9600 is the best of the mid-ranged cards, as you will have to be very lucky to find a Radeon 9500. GeForce 5600 should be the bare minimum. Don't waste your money on the low end 5200 or Radeon 9000/9100/9200.

PS. Do not, under any circumstances, get the GeForce 5800. It's expensive and you don't get the performance you pay for. Radeon is better.

[krome]

bought me a dell computer the 2400 at dell.com it asked me which one you want, out of those 2 thats why i asked so i went and got me

*** ATI RADEON 9800 *** it only cost me 180 :D :D :D real price for the card by itself to bulid it in is like 400 right?? well thanks for da tip.....

[reignking]

no. 180 is about right for a non pro 9800...

it's still a heck of a card though and depending on which type you got could be modded into into a pro...

rk

[bigdawgfoxx]

Most 2400's suck. There not expandable and usually come with Celerons....what does yours have? Cuz it might not even be fast enough to use that to the best of its advantages...but have fun

[Kunal]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 November 2003 - 21:12
Most 2400's suck. There not expandable and usually come with Celerons....what does yours have? Cuz it might not even be fast enough to use that to the best of its advantages...but have fun
you lisening to those voices agian? :P

[bigdawgfoxx]

Uh no. My x had a 2400. It had a 2.4 Ghz celeron and 256MB of ram and sucked ass... thats just my opinion. I have also been on some others. If his has a P4 it prob good, but there just not as good. And if you have a celeron at 2 Ghz your not gona be able to play awesome games very well newayz...or at least from my exsperiance.

[krome]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 November 2003 - 13:12
Most 2400's suck. There not expandable and usually come with Celerons....what does yours have? Cuz it might not even be fast enough to use that to the best of its advantages...but have fun
Pentium 4 Processor at 2.8ghz with 533MHz frontside bus
Soundblaster live 5.1 DolbyDigital
1 GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400Mhz (2x512M)
120GB Harddrive (7200 RPM)
ATI Radeon 9800 pro
WindowsXP pro
48X Cdrw
16X DVDROM

Pretty good for what i just got wouldn't u say?

alot of other features added to this ill tell later.. :D

[bigdawgfoxx]

Very nice...uh are you talking about a dell 2400?

[krome]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 November 2003 - 13:52
Very nice...uh are you talking about a dell 2400?
yeah

[bigdawgfoxx]

You cant get a Diminsion 2400 with anything higher then 2.2 Ghz...I dont know what your talking about.

[krome]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 November 2003 - 13:57
You cant get a Diminsion 2400 with anything higher then 2.2 Ghz...I dont know what your talking about.
i just did

[krome]

dell.com they let me choose which one i wanted i choose the highest one on the list... I bought two of the same dells...

[bigdawgfoxx]

That would be a Dell Dimension 8300...not 2400...you have an 8300.

[krome]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@21 November 2003 - 14:06
That would be a Dell Dimension 8300...not 2400...you have an 8300.
4600 series mybad i guess i was just a little bit to exited... B) , They just mailed me my ship date i be getting it :D :D :D

price came out to $ 1,268.00 but i bought 2 of them total $ 2,536.00

they also gave me a free dell printer A920 and kodak CX 6230 Camera..with that free upgrade 48X CDRW

edit...

[bigdawgfoxx]

Oh ok good. 2400 suck...but yeah 4600 is good. Looks like you got a really good system/s there. Have fun with them

[reignking]

edit: didn't see you bought already... had some opinions if you were in the process of deciding...

enjoy the new setup.
rk

[raiserblade2003]

Originally posted by reignking@22 November 2003 - 04:00
dell is pretty decent. the only downside they have (like all other manufacturers) is that you never know what they are putting into your computer for terms of quality parts.

since you got a 9800pro i'm assuming you're a gamer but most gamers i know wouldn't be caught dead with a dell or any other manufac pc. simply because you can do so much better on your own.

going to newegg and just typing in the list of stuff you got:
2.8 w/ hyper threading = 210.00
1 gig geil pc3200 ram =160.00 (and who knows what type of ram you'll get)
seagate 120 gig hd =111.00
9800pro w/ good clock speed =270.00
48x cdrw =30.00
16x dvd = 28.00
=809.00  time 2 for two pc's = 1618.00

add two hundred dollars for two great motherboards w/ 5.1 sound or better. and you're at rouglhly 1800.00 and all you need is one copy of xp and if you're cases aren't good enough to upgrade them w/ psu's.. a savings of anywhere from 700.00 over what dell did.

not trying to show you up or anything... i just think ordering from a company is pointless. it costs more to do less and we're all trying to get the best systems we can...

rk
im guessing the dell include a moitor as well cuz most of them include monitor. so thats another 300-400.

oh and gaming rig from ibuypower are pretty decent. and they cost less then the dell system.

[reignking]

ah yeah... forgot dell includes monitors. but they're are cheap anyways. a 17" crt costs 100.00 or one comparable to a top of the line one can be had for 150.00.


so take that into account also.

edit: ah... didn't see you bought. thought you were in the process of deciding. n/m then )

[adamp2p]

If I were you I would quickly cancel both of those orders.;

Just my advice. And go to the Dell refurbished website and look around there. You could save yourself enough money to where even the deal conscious members of this board will stay off your back.

Those Dells you ordered dont even have the 800 MHz front side bus! Your RAM modules I think operate at 333 MHz. Cancel them. Trust me. After you do, report back and I will help to guide you to the better deal.
;)

Edit: to the computer built yourselvers: I am only advising this cat to go Dell because he is a computer newbie trying to save a buck and with that in mind, I advise him... ;)

[_John_Lennon_]

I just checked Dell.com, and their entire 2400 line only looks to come with 2.2Ghz 400Mhz FSB Pentium 4 processors, you couldnt get half the specs you just listed.

[Keikan]

your kidding right?

Thats like saying which is faster a car or a bicycle

[bigdawgfoxx]

Dell Refurb is good and Im sure Adam can get you a damn good deal....they also come with all the same warranties so its basicly new. If you can I would do what adam says...he got an awesome rig for like 1500 i believe?? something like that i cant remember adam. John he has a 4600 not a 2400.

[adamp2p]

"I" cannot "get" him a deal, he could find it himself at the Dell outlet website:

Here is an example of what he could get for just over $1,000 (leaving him enough over $200 for a new monitor):


SYSTEM SPECIFICATION 
    Dimension 8300 (System Identifier EEBTVZH0) 
    Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.8GHz with 800MHz front side bus
Discounted Price $1,019.00
Dell recommends Microsoft® Windows® XP
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
  Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
  Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
  Hard Disk Drive: 80 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
  Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
  Modem: V.92 Data/Fax/Voice WinModem
  Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! Digital Sound Card
  CD Read-Write Drive: 48X Max Variable CD-ROM Drive
  DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
    Optical 2-Button Mouse
    Altec Lansing ADA215 Speakers
    64 MB Dell USB Memory Key
    QuietKey Keyboard
look around here (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/dimen?c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh)

[raiserblade2003]

Originally posted by adamp2p@22 November 2003 - 17:08
"I" cannot "get" him a deal, he could find it himself at the Dell outlet website:

Here is an example of what he could get for just over $1,000 (leaving him enough over $200 for a new monitor):


SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier EEBTVZH0) 
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.8GHz with 800MHz front side bus
Discounted Price $1,019.00
Dell recommends Microsoft® Windows® XP
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
  Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
  Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
  Hard Disk Drive: 80 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
  Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
  Modem: V.92 Data/Fax/Voice WinModem
  Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! Digital Sound Card
  CD Read-Write Drive: 48X Max Variable CD-ROM Drive
  DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Optical 2-Button Mouse
Altec Lansing ADA215 Speakers
64 MB Dell USB Memory Key
QuietKey Keyboard
look around here (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/dimen?c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh)
yea but w/ the monitor tha would equal his system. so whats the point


Pentium 4 Processor at 2.8ghz with 533MHz frontside bus
Soundblaster live 5.1 DolbyDigital
1 GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400Mhz (2x512M)
120GB Harddrive (7200 RPM)
ATI Radeon 9800 pro
WindowsXP pro
48X Cdrw
16X DVDROM

and if u didnt read his post. his system spec are btter then the one u posted (which is refurb.)

[adamp2p]

Originally posted by raiserblade2003+22 November 2003 - 18:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (raiserblade2003 @ 22 November 2003 - 18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-adamp2p@22 November 2003 - 17:08
"I" cannot "get" him a deal, he could find it himself at the Dell outlet website:

Here is an example of what he could get for just over &#036;1,000 (leaving him enough over &#036;200 for a new monitor):


SYSTEM SPECIFICATION
Dimension 8300 (System Identifier EEBTVZH0)
Dell Dimension 8300 Mini-Tower: Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.8GHz with 800MHz front side bus
Discounted Price &#036;1,019.00
Dell recommends Microsoft® Windows® XP
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows XP Home
Memory: 512MB DDR 400MHz NON-ECC SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Disk Drive
Hard Disk Drive: 80 GB EIDE Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video: 128MB DDR ATI Radeon 9800 with TV-Out Video Card
Modem: V.92 Data/Fax/Voice WinModem
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live&#33; Digital Sound Card
CD Read-Write Drive: 48X Max Variable CD-ROM Drive
DVD Drive: 16X DVD-ROM
Optical 2-Button Mouse
Altec Lansing ADA215 Speakers
64 MB Dell USB Memory Key
QuietKey Keyboard
look around here (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/dimen?c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh)
yea but w/ the monitor tha would equal his system. so whats the point


Pentium 4 Processor at 2.8ghz with 533MHz frontside bus
Soundblaster live 5.1 DolbyDigital
1 GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400Mhz (2x512M)
120GB Harddrive (7200 RPM)
ATI Radeon 9800 pro
WindowsXP pro
48X Cdrw
16X DVDROM

and if u didnt read his post. his system spec are btter then the one u posted (which is refurb.) [/b][/quote]
He edited that post, dude; the Dell&#39;s with 533 fsb don&#39;t use 400 MHz dual channel DDr.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah but his has twice the Memory and a better HD. I dont know, I really like what he bought and he seems to be very happy with it also, so I think he should just stick with what he has.

[adamp2p]

It is a matter of no consequence to me. I hope he is happy with his purchase. I just feel sorry for his need to edit the details of his post for our sake-- :blink: :unsure: