Will tracker "staffs" ever grow up? I don't think so.

[A]

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[5:54:17 PM] <PyOOk> Hi AbyBeats, you are correct, you were disabled because you failed to log in for more than 90 days (which is our limit).
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[6:02:59 PM] <AbyBeats> PyOOk: So, how do I get my account back?
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[6:06:43 PM] <PyOOk> Wait here plz I will get back to you.
[6:20:21 PM] <PyOOk> AbyBeats have you ever been banned on any other tracker ?
[6:20:33 PM] <AbyBeats> A dozen I guess
[6:21:39 PM] <PyOOk> Why ?
[6:21:57 PM] <AbyBeats> Inactivity tops the list
[6:22:16 PM] <PyOOk> Really ?
[6:22:27 PM] <AbyBeats> What is on your mind?
[6:23:40 PM] <PyOOk> The fact that you don't seem to be telling me the truth is on my mind...
[6:24:00 PM] <AbyBeats> You maybe need to ask the right questions then?
[6:25:04 PM] <PyOOk> The right question was why were you banned on a dozen trackers
[6:25:29 PM] <AbyBeats> hmm
[6:25:49 PM] <AbyBeats> I'll have to think about the trackers, wait a min or two
[6:26:07 PM] <AbyBeats> 1. freshon.tv: inactivity
[6:26:58 PM] <AbyBeats> 2. PTP: The mod said, a trader invited me and thus my account got banned
[6:27:33 PM] <AbyBeats> 3. BitmeTV: A confusion like above happened, then resolved, but then I called the mod stupid, and that got me banned.
[6:27:48 PM] <AbyBeats> 4. Cosanostra? Inactivity
[6:28:12 PM] <AbyBeats> 5. lztr.us: Inactivity
[6:28:23 PM] <AbyBeats> 6. libble.me? : Inactivity
[6:29:06 PM] <AbyBeats> 7: Vault.bz?: inactivity
[6:29:25 PM] <AbyBeats> 8: theplace.bz?: Inactivity
[6:30:02 PM] <AbyBeats> I can't remember the rest
[6:31:47 PM] <Betrayed> whats your invitescene nick?
[6:31:54 PM] <AbyBeats> Invitescene?
[6:32:26 PM] <Betrayed> yes
[6:32:41 PM] <AbyBeats> Explain to me what "invitescene" is?
[6:33:00 PM] <Betrayed> tracker nicks then?
[6:33:07 PM] <Betrayed> and all the emails you've used
[6:33:10 PM] <AbyBeats> I use AbyBeats everywhere
[6:33:17 PM] <AbyBeats> <redacted-email ID-here> on every tracker
[6:34:27 PM] <Betrayed> been banned on GGn?
[6:34:35 PM] <AbyBeats> What is GGn?
[6:35:00 PM] <Betrayed> gazellegames
[6:35:19 PM] <AbyBeats> I don't know, I don't see such a tracker in my bookmarks.
[6:35:42 PM] <AbyBeats> or in my lastpass vault
[6:38:05 PM] <Betrayed> did you staff at some tracker at some point?
[6:38:10 PM] <AbyBeats> no
[6:39:05 PM] <Betrayed> yeah.. this isnt really going anywhere
[6:39:36 PM] <AbyBeats> huh?
[6:39:58 PM] <Betrayed> you sir are a trader
[6:40:05 PM] <AbyBeats> yea, whatever
[6:40:30 PM] <Betrayed> and nice attitude to top it all off
[6:40:39 PM] <Betrayed> goodbye
[6:40:46 PM] error Closing link: (Default@<redacted-IP-address-here>) [G-Lined: traders be trading]

:frusty:

My previous encounter with yet another set of "staffs" on BitmeTV (~3 years back): Idoleyes' Irony thread :shifty: (http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/415201-Irony/page10?p=3474098#post3474098)

:frusty:

The logfile for the PTP encounter (~2 years back) got lost but it was the most retarded of all. It went like this: "You are a trader and we know it".

:frusty:

[mjmacky]

So, you're a trader then.

[A]

So, you're a trader then.
I am left with no choice. So my mind has conjured up this theory: I must be and I don't know it, yet. Scary stuff. :shutup:

[justlooking]

Torrent sites remind me of women. They have what men want, so we have to go along with their nonsense to get it. These torrent sites might be run by people you don't like, but if you want their content, you have to play along.

[megabyteme]

Trader. :dry:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3jt5ibfRzw

[absent_today]

I know Betrayed is 24 year old boy but still trying to figure out who is the child here

[megabyteme]

I know Betrayed is 24 year old boy but still trying to figure out who is the child here

I rarely have reason to side with Aby, but the grilling was a bit unnecessary as he had only been disabled due to inactivity on their tracker. He had done nothing else there.

Also, the "We know every site you've ever been on" which was in depth yet (most likely) inaccurate as there have been numerous, unidentified hands in the paper trail who could say anything. Is more than a bit bizarre and intrusive.

[A]

So, you're a trader then.

Trader. :dry:
Traders :ermm:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs

[anon]

We know the truth, lying won't help you.

:sadwalk:

[IdolEyes787]

See this is the problem with the internet,there is no possible way to resort to mindless violence when the situation obviously calls for it.

I'm only theorizing but I bet an Uzi would probably have gone a long way in either getting your point across or making you feel better.:)

[A]

We know the truth, lying won't help you.
If we are wrong, we are right.


See this is the problem with the internet,there is no possible way to resort to mindless violence when the situation obviously calls for it.

I'm only theorizing but I bet an Uzi would probably have gone a long way in either getting your point across or making you feel better.:)
I just wanted to know if BTN had "HIGH quality" :shifty: spartacus TV series to fap watch, than the ones in tvtorrents. These people won't allow it :mellow:

[IdolEyes787]

You mean the Blacks or the Jews?

[A]

Definitely, that guy Betrayed has to be a Jew, surely.

[aoshivx]

Will tracker "staffs" ever grow up? I don't think so.

Well you pretty much answered the question - before the chat log post.

From personal experience at BCG and Bimetv - I can clearly say - Yeah!! I don't think so.

It is VERY VERY RARE to come across someone who actually comes down to earth from that
HIGH perched throne they have so gladly placed themselves.

[stan]

The worrying bit is Betrayed is the brains of the outfit. :whistling

[megabyteme]

See this is the problem with the internet,there is no possible way to resort to mindless violence when the situation obviously calls for it.

I'm only theorizing but I bet an Uzi would probably have gone a long way in either getting your point across or making you feel better.:)

Speaking on behalf of those who are ARMED to the FREAKIN' TEETH, yes. Yes on both theories. :yes::yes:

Mindless violence solves...wait, what was the question?

[Funkin']

Shouldn't use the same nick at every tracker. I personally don't want to be "recognized" on every tracker I'm on so i use several different nicks. Helps out in cases like these where a disable turns into a bunch of bullshit(and i couldn't care any less if you're a trader, although i don't condone it, but I'm just saying ...) .

[megabyteme]

Shouldn't use the same nick at every tracker.

He used AbyBeats. Toootally different. :yup:

And I tend to use the same name everywhere because it's really just a tracker. They're 3/$1 with coupon. :idunno:

[A]

Shouldn't use the same nick at every tracker.

He used AbyBeats. Toootally different. :yup:
Give some slack to the me of 3-4 years back will you guys? :blushing: Being naive did come back to bite my ass, yes; but it's funny that these people haven't grown even a bit after all these years. I mean, doesn't ~half a decade bring about some changes in your perspective of things?

[aoshivx]

.Its ok.:D

Trackers mainly use the "email address" as the primary linkage to other trackers then the "nickname".
I assume.
Then again this is 2013.... get banned from tracker, should be quite easy for veteran such as yourself to
get back in.

wink wink at megabyteme's last sentence :whistling

[shipwreck]

Not wanting traders on your site is sound and absolutely legitimate, not least of all for security reasons.

[A]

Not wanting traders on your site is sound and absolutely legitimate, not least of all for security reasons.
Everything is legitimate until the process of 'legitimizing' gets broke.

[IdolEyes787]

Not wanting traders on your site is sound and absolutely legitimate, not least of all for security reasons.

I would be fascinated to know how stopping an account from passing from one anonymous person to another aids in security. :unsure:

[mjmacky]

but it's funny that these people haven't grown even a bit after all these years. I mean, doesn't ~half a decade bring about some changes in your perspective of things?

Have you ever met a career security guard?

[megabyteme]

Not wanting traders on your site is sound and absolutely legitimate, not least of all for security reasons.
Everything is legitimate until the process of 'legitimizing' gets broke.

Somebody's got to do the job of keeping a-holes off of sites for the good of the general user. Unfortunately, sometimes the biggest ones find their way into staff positions. Coincidentally, these same jerks often find themselves in real-life roles of security guard, border patrol, and middle management.

[Vestibule]

...Don't forget tow truck drivers...

[smcewa11]

Will spare the blushes of the person involved but I was recently banned from a tracker for being invited by a trader. What made it funny, but sad for their quality of 'intel', is that it was the mod I was talking to who invited me to the site.
I just wanted to know if BTN had "HIGH quality" :shifty: spartacus TV series to fap watch, than the ones in tvtorrents. Has them in 1080p goodness and I think all of them in blu ray.

[justlooking]

I just wanted to know if BTN had "HIGH quality" :shifty: spartacus TV series to fap watch, than the ones in tvtorrents. Has them in 1080p goodness and I think all of them in blu ray.

You mean this one? Spartacus War Of The Damned COMPLETE 1080p Blu-ray AVC DTS-HD MA 5 1-HDW It's all over, like TL and IPT and other places, including HDW of course.

[teflon05]

Shouldn't use the same nick at every tracker. I personally don't want to be "recognized" on every tracker I'm on so i use several different nicks. Helps out in cases like these where a disable turns into a bunch of bullshit(and i couldn't care any less if you're a trader, although i don't condone it, but I'm just saying ...) .

That may be true now, but I remember around 5 or 6 years ago or longer, many tracker staff thought it was suspicious if you used different usernames on different trackers. And you definitely couldn't use a tracker nick on a board like this. Probably still not a good idea. I remember being questioned in some interview channel years ago, about my username being different on 2 different trackers.
I also remember more than one tracker that suposedly would ban you just for being a member here, or at any forum that allowed open invite giveaways or trading. Always thought that was BS too.

[anon]

Trackers mainly use the "email address" as the primary linkage to other trackers then the "nickname".
I assume.

IP addresses are trendy too. If you're from India, Egypt or Israel you get double points :yay:

[absent_today]

I'm from India and have never being banned once on any trackers my account was disabled on Science HD for inactivity so i went to there IRC and the admin there was ready to enable it but i said no since i was then moved to BTN and admin was all good that said not to enable it again just to die again.

[shipwreck]

Not wanting traders on your site is sound and absolutely legitimate, not least of all for security reasons.

I would be fascinated to know how stopping an account from passing from one anonymous person to another aids in security. :unsure:

Because trading inevitably implies a loss of control over who joins your site. This is particularly important to sites that run a tight ship on membership, meticulously screening who joins their site and how.

Besides, not wanting to see the privilege of membership traded like a commodity is a legitimate concern also. And a pretty substantial part of the more notorious trader folk tends to cheat and be up to all kinds of undesirable behaviour, the most obvious being the total disrespect for the rules of the trackers they join.

[A]

I would be fascinated to know how stopping an account from passing from one anonymous person to another aids in security. :unsure:

Because trading inevitably implies a loss of control over who joins your site.
I'll play the Devil's advocate here. So, Inviting someone from the internet on the basis of the nickname one uses helps "control" who joins the site? Take the case of a trader with lots of time to burn and lots of nicknames, how do you stop such people? In essence, IMO, all these rules do nothing to deter traders. Just like all the NSA surveillance can't stop the real bad guys. They just play the game better than the next guy who just wants to fap to watch some American porno tv series.

Now, for arguments sake, lets say I am a trader. Why the FUCK would I want my account back. Can't I trade my way back in? Why the FUCK would I use the same email-ID and nickname on every FUCKING tracker? That brings us to two conclusions:
1. I am trader who is really bad at the trading game. OR,
2. All these so called "staffs" can't do basic arithmetic (like, what is 2+2?) if their life depended on it; and their massive ego to top it all. ugh.

[shipwreck]

On trackers that have a strict membership policy, it's the tracker staff themselves who send out invites. For the sake of the tracker, you'd expect them to have more substantial criteria than just the nickname of the user. Of course you can't stop every trader from joining, but you can make their life more difficult and hence keep out a good percentage of the less sophisticated ones. That's good enough for most trackers I assume.

In your particular case, I have a feeling that it's your ...associates that tend to make life difficult for you. Most if not all trackers tend to not just ban traders, but those who have been invited by traders, too. It's not just important who you invite, but by whom you get invited yourself.

[A]

On trackers that have a strict membership policy, it's the tracker staff themselves who send out invites. For the sake of the tracker, you'd expect them to have more substantial criteria than just the nickname of the user.
Like what? Someone on the internet is an IP address, the nickname(s) he chooses to reveal, and the email-ID associated with the tracker. There is nothing a "staff" can do that a normal inviter cannot do.


Of course you can't stop every trader from joining, but you can make their life more difficult and hence keep out a good percentage of the less sophisticated ones. That's good enough for most trackers I assume.
My point being, it doesn't matter to them how "hard" it gets.


In your particular case, I have a feeling that it's your ...associates that tend to make life difficult for you. Most if not all trackers tend to not just ban traders, but those who have been invited by traders, too. It's not just important who you invite, but by whom you get invited yourself.
PTP is the only tracker I joined and can't remember who I got the invite from; it was one of my first trackers. On the majority of other trackers, I got the invite from "staffs". That said, if you read the BitmeTV IRC logs I posted, you'll know the confusion that causes this BS, which happened 3 years back, and how some trigger happy jackass probably "blacklisted" my nick in some "database" these private tracker circlejerks keep and then forgot to "whitelist" it. And then, all the monkeys follow suit.

[Artemis]

Trackers mainly use the "email address" as the primary linkage to other trackers then the "nickname".
I assume.

IP addresses are trendy too. If you're from India, Egypt or Israel you get double points :yay:

You forgot Romania and Turkey. :blink:

[anon]

You forgot Romania

I can't believe it. :blink:

[IdolEyes787]

I'm an Egyptian currently living in Brazil among a small enclave of Israeli expats so boy am I fucked.

[2501]

you mean Arab, Egyptians are long gone.

[anon]

I'm an Egyptian currently living in Brazil among a small enclave of Israeli expats so boy am I fucked.

Aaaand don't forget you're black.

[IdolEyes787]

Some people try to tell me that but since I can't play basketball to save my life I think they're lying.

[Vestibule]

Some people try to tell me that but since I can't play basketball to save my life I think they're lying.

and your dick is tiny... at least thats what macky said once or seven times... just saying...:whistling

[megabyteme]

Some people try to tell me that but since I can't play basketball to save my life I think they're lying.

and your dick is tiny... at least thats what macky said once or seven times... just saying...:whistling

And, sadly, Mary only uses under-five-years-old as a comparison. :no:

[IdolEyes787]

and your dick is tiny... I does the job to satisfy MBM's wife but then again it's probably another comparison thing.

[megabyteme]

and your dick is tiny... I does the job to satisfy MBM's wife but then again it's probably another comparison thing.

She gets quite sore after a pounding with mine- which is the size of a midget's forearm. I'm guessing your Vienna Sausage peen tickles a bit. :idunno:

[mjmacky]

Yet another conversation that will eventually lead up to a round of cock pics being sent around in PMs.

[megabyteme]

Yet another conversation that will eventually lead up to a round of cock pics being sent around in PMs.

Photoshop Good genetics FTW! :sly:

[mjmacky]

Speaking of which, has anyone ever lost 3/4 of an inch before? Was it just an off day? Is it because I'm slightly older?

/scarystuff

[megabyteme]

Speaking of which, has anyone ever lost 3/4 of an inch before? Was it just an off day? Is it because I'm slightly older?

/scarystuff

I don't worry about rounding errors. :whistling

[mjmacky]

Speaking of which, has anyone ever lost 3/4 of an inch before? Was it just an off day? Is it because I'm slightly older?

/scarystuff

I don't worry about rounding errors. :whistling

I just don't like rounding off to a prime number.

[A]

I'll leave this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size

[mjmacky]

I learned nothing new. At a glance, it seemed to be a poorly constructed wiki.

[megabyteme]

I'll just post this about Aby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis :ermm:

[A]

I'll just post this about Aby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis :ermm:

Yet another conversation that will eventually lead up to a round of cock pics being sent around in PMs.
I almost.

[Cabalo]

Sooo, one of the requirements to be staffing a tracker is your age not exceeding 15 years.

[jbloggs]

Sooo, one of the requirements to be staffing a tracker is your age not exceeding 15 years.

Or still living in the basement of your parents house :D

[stoi]

The problem is, as an owner of a tracker for the best part of 10 years, you look for members that are active in the community, help others out even if they are complete noobs, but most of those that have the time to do that, are still at school.

usually you can spot them, but sometimes they do sneak through, but then I have known members that claimed to be 13-14 that were more mature than some 30 year old staff members we have had (well they said they were 30ish). but thats the point you just never know how old they actually are.

They can also change, great members helping out, give them power and they go on banning sprees or worse, deleting good members when they get bored or get told off for the littlest thing that they have done wrong.

Picking staff is probably the 2nd hardest thing, especially if the forums are dead, you tend to pick from irc, the hardest is demoting them for whatever reason.

anyway my point is its the nature of the beast, adults tend to work so play the games, watch the movies in whatever spare time they can muster, kids/students have the spare time to put into the communities, so they are usually the ones that get noticed and promoted as staff, some turn out great, others not so but you never know until you give them the chance.

[absent_today]

The best age for some staff being 20-25

[mjmacky]

The problem is, as an owner of a tracker for the best part of 10 years, you look for members that are active in the community, help others out even if they are complete noobs, but most of those that have the time to do that, are still at school.

usually you can spot them, but sometimes they do sneak through, but then I have known members that claimed to be 13-14 that were more mature than some 30 year old staff members we have had (well they said they were 30ish). but thats the point you just never know how old they actually are.

They can also change, great members helping out, give them power and they go on banning sprees or worse, deleting good members when they get bored or get told off for the littlest thing that they have done wrong.

Picking staff is probably the 2nd hardest thing, especially if the forums are dead, you tend to pick from irc, the hardest is demoting them for whatever reason.

anyway my point is its the nature of the beast, adults tend to work so play the games, watch the movies in whatever spare time they can muster, kids/students have the spare time to put into the communities, so they are usually the ones that get noticed and promoted as staff, some turn out great, others not so but you never know until you give them the chance.

Poignant, but I think we all kind of already knew that.

[Cabalo]

The problem is, as an owner of a tracker for the best part of 10 years, you look for members that are active in the community, help others out even if they are complete noobs, but most of those that have the time to do that, are still at school.

usually you can spot them, but sometimes they do sneak through, but then I have known members that claimed to be 13-14 that were more mature than some 30 year old staff members we have had (well they said they were 30ish). but thats the point you just never know how old they actually are.

They can also change, great members helping out, give them power and they go on banning sprees or worse, deleting good members when they get bored or get told off for the littlest thing that they have done wrong.

Picking staff is probably the 2nd hardest thing, especially if the forums are dead, you tend to pick from irc, the hardest is demoting them for whatever reason.

anyway my point is its the nature of the beast, adults tend to work so play the games, watch the movies in whatever spare time they can muster, kids/students have the spare time to put into the communities, so they are usually the ones that get noticed and promoted as staff, some turn out great, others not so but you never know until you give them the chance.
This quite nails the question.
And I can imagine the bitching happening whenever someone gets demoted. Well, that's usually the drama we used to get here all the time, that seems to be gone.
Please bring back the kids to staff the trackers!

[pone44]

I hated when the patriots traded Welker