When the 4k movies come out...

[Sometwo]

When the 4k movies come out, how are we going to be able to download them when pretty much all the ISPs got together and started capping everyone's bandwidth? We're not even going to be able to stream them legally so then what are we going to do?

[piercerseth]

H.265 will have caught on by then, so file sizes should *hopefully* still be manageable. My ISP's (non-business) cap is somewhere in the neighborhood of 300GB/mo. I usually exceed that, and they haven't said shit yet.

[Sometwo]

How much compression can H.265 do? I thought I heard a 4k movie was over 100GB.

[norway]

have coming out 4 4K movies

[megabyteme]

When the 4k movies come out, how are we going to be able to download them when pretty much all the ISPs got together and started capping everyone's bandwidth? We're not even going to be able to stream them legally so then what are we going to do?

"Settle" for "mere" 50GB blu-rays. :idunno:

Truly, I'm into getting free stuff as much as the next klepto, but if you really feel you have to have such a pristine copy (so good that a free blu-ray won't suffice), I say go buy the damn thing.

[pone44]

Do we really need 4k-8k movies? I am a noob concerning movie formats. Full BR Rips take up way too much space for me. I will stick to the lower quality xvids or compressed BR rips.. This is the 1st time i have heard mention of 4k format movies at 100gbs each. Technology is making it harder for pirates...

[renhoek93]

Who knows we will just have to see.

[pootystomp]

The only way to get the content currently is through the sony media box that you can buy with your 4k tv. It's $700 and comes preloaded with ten movies. I've hooked up one of these and the built in 2 tb drive had 1.40 tb available with the ten movies loaded. So with the op system that makes it mid 50gb's per movie. I believe they are still using 264 codec.

[piercerseth]

How much compression can H.265 do? I thought I heard a 4k movie was over 100GB.

All the "100GB+" quotes I've seen are the DCP 4K formats the cinemas use, and those are jpeg2000 iirc. Who knows what the final spec is gonna be.


Do we really need 4k-8k movies? I am a noob concerning movie formats. Full BR Rips take up way too much space for me. I will stick to the lower quality xvids or compressed BR rips.. This is the 1st time i have heard mention of 4k format movies at 100gbs each. Technology is making it harder for pirates...
No we probably don't. The jump from HD->4K isn't nearly as appreciable as the transition from SD was. It'll be nice when I can view 48fps material though. I'll fall asleep twice as fast.

[tevo]

Ha I'm going to need a bigger HDD if they are 300gb

[mlindsay]

My ISP shares connection with my cable via fiber optic. This means there is literally no way for them to tell how much bandwidth I am using. Some weekends I download more than 100 GBs. Until they figure something else out for fiber optic this is the wild west of bandwidth. :)

[megabyteme]

My ISP shares connection with my cable via fiber optic. This means there is literally no way for them to tell how much bandwidth I am using. Some weekends I download more than 100 GBs. Until they figure something else out for fiber optic this is the wild west of bandwidth. :)

I seriously doubt this is factual.

[dolaosa]

Bigger HD here i come.

[mlindsay]

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I seriously doubt this is factual.[/QUOTE]

Actually it is quite factual. Just because you haven't heard of such a setup doesn't mean it doesn't exist. However I don't blame you for being doubtful, it is something that would be uncommon. I regularly download 400-500 gigs a month and I have been known to download over 700 gigs in a single month, however that involved using a combination of Bittorent and usenet over multiple computers. I wouldn't lie about such a thing just to impress some people I don't even know, as I'm sure some losers out there do...I just thought fellow filesharers would be interested since we are on the topic of bandwidth.

Here's how it works :
I have an ISP called Telus. In Canada they are one of the biggest service providers, and also provide phone and cable services. They have this technology using fiber optic ( not available in remote areas ) that delivers high speed internet. They also use they same fiber optic ( " tunnel " if you will ) to transfer cable broadcasts to your home. Any televisons using this in your home would also use " bandwidth " even if you had 3 or 4 T.Vs like some people do. There is no way to tell " bandwidth " from your T.V or your laptop. They don't know if you are being a download hog or just using multiple devices. If I only had their internet then they would be able to monitor my bandwidth, but since I have my cable connection sharing the same fiber optic connection they cannot differentiate.

So...er.. yes, it really is the wild wild west of bandwidth . :)

[piercerseth]

I'm betting that CATV stream is carried over a discrete wavelength on that fiber, with your data on another. If it's a packet switched network and your packets are traversing someone else's routers and switches you bet your ass they know whose whats are going where.

[mlindsay]

You could be right, but I don't know how else to explain this blatant abuse of bandwidth month after month for the last two years with no letters or emails from my ISP. Could it be they are just letting me slide because I am such a good customer ? I get my cable, internet and phone from them. The sharing bandwidth scenario I have given you was explained to me from someone that works for my ISP in the sales department. But of course, that doesn't mean he is correct. :)

[megabyteme]

I'm betting that CATV stream is carried over a discrete wavelength on that fiber, with your data on another. If it's a packet switched network and your packets are traversing someone else's routers and switches you bet your ass they know whose whats are going where.

This sounds more like reality. My cable and internet come in together, and I know they realize how much I use- they've mentioned it to me a couple of times...

[piercerseth]

I don't know how else to explain this blatant abuse of bandwidth month after month

Think of it as you getting what you pay for. 500GB/mo on fiber doesn't seem excessive. Doubly so if your traffic is asymmetrical. If they're overselling the infrastructure, fuck it--ride it til the wheels fall off. Or at least until they notify you ala megabyteme.

[megabyteme]

until they notify you ala megabyteme.

I'll smear pie and ice cream on my nipples and it'll be pie ala mode ala MBM. :happy:

[piercerseth]

As long as you aren't one of those who puts a slice of cheese on top. That's just weird.

[mlindsay]

If you are going to have cheese you must forgo the ice cream, that's just gross.

[megabyteme]

I get the feeling cheese on top of pie (and ice cream) would be a British thing. So, basically, I side with the rest of you. :dave:

[drakened]

I have business service from my isp.. sadly I could burn through the 300gb residential cap in one day =/

[norway]

The.Karate.Kid.2010.Mastered.In.4k.720p.BluRay.DTS. one movie in 4k

[justlooking]

The.Karate.Kid.2010.Mastered.In.4k.720p.BluRay.DTS. one movie in 4k

That was mastered in 4K. The original is 4K, that rip is 720.

[pootystomp]

The.Karate.Kid.2010.Mastered.In.4k.720p.BluRay.DTS. one movie in 4k

That was mastered in 4K. The original is 4K, that rip is 720.

Yeah Norway, you're dumb. Most transfers from film are done at 4k. That way they can fuck us when they release it over and over again.

[norway]

That was mastered in 4K. The original is 4K, that rip is 720.

Yeah Norway, you're dumb. Most transfers from film are done at 4k. That way they can fuck us when they release it over and over again.

sorry

[mjmacky]

If this was a topic of any real significance, I'd feel bad for Norway. However, it isn't, so my crisis of humanity is over, Sweden rules.

[radicalnotion]

Saw a 70" 4k for £35k in the shopping center other day, it looked like a portal to another dimension. We're just going to need more bandwidth and a fridge size HD.

[norway]

If this was a topic of any real significance, I'd feel bad for Norway. However, it isn't, so my crisis of humanity is over, Sweden rules.

i normal live in norway, but much nicer i thailand, here can you do whatever u like to do with downl and upload files

[mjmacky]

If this was a topic of any real significance, I'd feel bad for Norway. However, it isn't, so my crisis of humanity is over, Sweden rules.

i normal live in norway, but much nicer i thailand, here can you do whatever u like to do with downl and upload files

Are you partial to 10 and 12-year-old files?

[norway]

i normal live in norway, but much nicer i thailand, here can you do whatever u like to do with downl and upload files

Are you partial to 10 and 12-year-old files?


from 1950s to 2013 in tv serie and movie

[IdolEyes787]

If a joke falls in a forest of stupid does it still make a sound?

[norway]

If a joke falls in a forest of stupid does it still make a sound?

some like you cartoons and porno, me tv serie and movie

[IdolEyes787]

Some like me don't actually watch cartoons or porno.

Unless of course you count Scooby doo and hardcore sex stuff.

[norway]

Some like me don't actually watch cartoons or porno.

Unless of course you count Scooby doo and hardcore sex stuff.

sorry i dont have porno in my servers fu... wanker

[megabyteme]

Here I thought we were in a drought...turns out we just haven't been harvesting the crops. :w00t:

[mjmacky]

If a joke falls in a forest of stupid does it still make a sound?

some like you cartoons and porno, me tv serie and movie

What of my animated porn, you tv serie?

[bobbintb]

:)There is no way to tell " bandwidth " from your T.V or your laptop. They don't know if you are being a download hog or just using multiple devices. If I only had their internet then they would be able to monitor my bandwidth, but since I have my cable connection sharing the same fiber optic connection they cannot differentiate.

So...er.. yes, it really is the wild wild west of bandwidth . :)

like piercerseth said, they can tell the difference. fiber uses wavelength multiplexing to send data over separate channels on the same fiber by using varying wavelengths. besides, copper cable only has one channel and they still can tell the difference between tv and internet bandwidth.