I'm Going To Be A Weapon Seller.

[leonidas]

I'm starting to work on moday for the bigest french war weapon manufacturing company. Damn I feel bad about this, but that's the only way for me to get a valuable diploma.

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

;) Fuck it.....somebody has to do it.

You think the man that comes over and Picks up your Trash on Monday Mornings likes doing what he does?Or the man that cleans out Port-A-Potties?Hell no they do not...but they do it anyways.

Your going to get a diploma and move on to bigger and better things.Be thankfull for what you have and thank the Port-A-Pottie man the next time you take a Shit in one.


FC B)

[J'Pol]

Balance your own conscience.

If you are comfortable with what you are doing, then it is a matter for you.

If you think you are in the wrong and you still do it, you are the one who will have the sleepless nights.

Others may judge you, that is up to them. However at the end of the day only you can decide if what you do is morally acceptable.

[internet.news]

it is sad when people do violent things - but you are unfortunately just a human.

Please continue sharing your thoughts openly ;)
that is important ;) to udnerstand each other better...

For what other thing than just killing weapons are used?

Probably for training of policemens?

Keep sharing your thoughts openly ;) and hope you meet some interesting
ppl you can share your thoughts openly with ;)

~nice dreams...

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by internet.news@22 November 2003 - 18:13
it is sad when people do violent things - but you are unfortunately just a human.

yep, those humans can be silly sometimes

i'd feel bad about working for a weapons manufacturer, but you'll have to decide for yourself if you want to stay there or not

[the_faceman]

you are truly one eccentric character internet.news, not just because of the language barrier. :)

I could put a lame pun in here about the fact that your employer is a French weapons manufacturer, the chances that anything you help construct actually being used in an act of war are very slim indeed. but that wouldn't be nice ;) :ph34r: (only teasing)

regardless though, some people would say that weapons are a deterrent to war. By that i mean a totally defenseless country is probably in danger of being invaded by some megalomaniac at somepoint down the line.

As much as i hate war, i'd hate to be living in the UK with no weapons at our disposal given the current world political climate.

[leonidas]

Actually, the reason I decided not to refuse the job, is because of a "philosophy" I have for a few months now: I think that watever you're gonna do, if you decide to live, in the actual world you will hurt somebody. Look at our computers for example. They are made by asian slaves, the same for our clothes. there are wars allover the world because of gaz, so if you use your car you're guilty.

[leonidas]

Originally posted by the_faceman@22 November 2003 - 19:21
I could put a lame pun in here about the fact that your employer is a French weapons manufacturer, the chances that anything you help construct actually being used in an act of war are very slim indeed. but that wouldn't be nice ;) :ph34r: (only teasing)
You're right France doesn't fight a lot at the moment, but the point is that France for example export its weapons to african countries were democracy doesn't really rule. And I think France is the 2nd war weapon seller just after united states.

[J'Pol]

So you felt, everyone else is doing it, so why don't I.

I would be more comfortable if you made your own judgement, but it is a matter for you.

[bigboab]

Think positive Leo. The weapons that you are producing may prevent some people losing their lives. ;)

[TheDave]

Originally posted by J'Pol@22 November 2003 - 18:40
So you felt, everyone else is doing it, so why don't I.

I would be more comfortable if you made your own judgement, but it is a matter for you.
someone else was gonna do it anyway. he might as well play the part of a robot to survive

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by TheDave+22 November 2003 - 19:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheDave @ 22 November 2003 - 19:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@22 November 2003 - 18:40
So you felt, everyone else is doing it, so why don&#39;t I.

I would be more comfortable if you made your own judgement, but it is a matter for you.
someone else was gonna do it anyway. he might as well play the part of a robot to survive [/b][/quote]
You can rationalise anything based simply on "someone else would do it anyway" ?

Isn&#39;t that just giving up responsibility for your own actions.

[TheDave]

in that case so is paying taxes.
just because you cant see the bombs your buying, doesnt mean your not partially responsible

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by TheDave@22 November 2003 - 19:49
in that case so is paying taxes.
just because you cant see the bombs your buying, doesnt mean your not partially responsible
Good point, however paying taxes is not an optional thing, taking a job is.

Someone can pay their taxes and also take positive steps to stop the Government using the money in ways they feel appropriate. They can lobby their MP, vote for someone who agrees with their position, demonstrate publicly etc, etc ....

[leonidas]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@22 November 2003 - 19:40
So you felt, everyone else is doing it, so why don&#39;t I.
No. Absolutly not. You didn&#39;t get me. Actually what I said was that the only way to be a moral personn would be to live like an hermit

@Bigboab : Yes I almost forgot that. But I don&#39;t trust my country. France sell weapons to any country in the world exept Libya and north Corea I think. It&#39;s just business you know.

[TheDave]

Good point, however paying taxes is not an optional thing, taking a job is.

you do need a job if you want money, and you can go home with a clear concience knowing whether or not you helped make the bomb doesnt affect what happens to it.


Someone can pay their taxes and also take positive steps to stop the Government using the money in ways they feel appropriate. They can lobby their MP, vote for someone who agrees with their position, demonstrate publicly etc, etc ....

come on JP, you should know better :rolleyes:

[fkdup74]

hey leo, as long as you&#39;re there i need a few things........ :lol: (j/k)
you gotta do what you gotta do for now, it ain&#39;t permanent
like it was said b4, use it for all its worth, get your diploma,
then go onto better things

[leonidas]

Originally posted by FKDUP74@22 November 2003 - 20:06
hey leo, as long as you&#39;re there i need a few things........ :lol: (j/k)
What about some of this product: http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/navires/fichnav/img/fs.jpg

[UKMan]

Originally posted by leonidas@22 November 2003 - 19:03
I&#39;m starting to work on moday for the bigest french war weapon manufacturing company. Damn I feel bad about this, but that&#39;s the only way for me to get a valuable diploma.
Theres NOTHING bad about working for a living. Who you work for or what the job is, thats up to you entirely to judge. But dont feel bad about earning your own living&#33;

The final choice is your&#39;s as has been said before. Hell, if we didnt do anything just because of the morals, then nothing would be done at all.

You pay taxes to idiot governments
You buy clothes made by underpaid workers and/or children
You eat food that has been mass-produced by money theiving bastards
You live in housing (i presume) that are owned by thieving barons
You steal songs/films therebye depriving others of their income

Its a bit late to start thinking of morals in my humble opinion. Go for it and use your education to change from within the system ;)

Peace
UKMan

[leonidas]

Originally posted by UKMan@22 November 2003 - 20:34
Go for it and use your education to change from within the system ;)
Are you talking about sabotage ?

[TheDave]

sell them to hippies and we&#39;ll overthrow the government on mayday ;)

[UKMan]

Originally posted by leonidas+22 November 2003 - 20:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas @ 22 November 2003 - 20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-UKMan@22 November 2003 - 20:34
Go for it and use your education to change from within the system&nbsp; ;)
Are you talking about sabotage ? [/b][/quote]
Call it what you like - but all systems can only really be changed from within. The system is so corrupt its the only solution. Problem is, once you become part of it, then your usually sucked up into it as well. So nothing changes anyway.

So, why not use it whilst you still have your individualism left.

Damn - now i&#39;m getting political :angry:

Peace
UKAnniversaryMan :D

[leonidas]

Originally posted by TheDave@22 November 2003 - 20:57
sell them to hippies and we&#39;ll overthrow the government on mayday ;)
The only places where you&#39;ll find french hippies nowadays is in rich neibourhood high-schools, or abroad. <_< :)

[Snee]

Originally posted by leonidas+22 November 2003 - 19:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas @ 22 November 2003 - 19:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-the_faceman@22 November 2003 - 19:21
I could put a lame pun in here about the fact that your employer is a French weapons manufacturer, the chances that anything you help construct actually being used in an act of war are very slim indeed. but that wouldn&#39;t be nice ;)&nbsp; :ph34r: (only teasing)
You&#39;re right France doesn&#39;t fight a lot at the moment, but the point is that France for example export its weapons to african countries were democracy doesn&#39;t really rule. And I think France is the 2nd war weapon seller just after united states. [/b][/quote]
And also, once in a while you may need to nuke an atolla or two. :)

[bigboab]

Originally posted by SnnY+22 November 2003 - 20:06--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SnnY @ 22 November 2003 - 20:06)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by leonidas@22 November 2003 - 19:39
<!--QuoteBegin-the_faceman@22 November 2003 - 19:21
I could put a lame pun in here about the fact that your employer is a French weapons manufacturer, the chances that anything you help construct actually being used in an act of war are very slim indeed. but that wouldn&#39;t be nice ;) :ph34r: (only teasing)
You&#39;re right France doesn&#39;t fight a lot at the moment, but the point is that France for example export its weapons to african countries were democracy doesn&#39;t really rule. And I think France is the 2nd war weapon seller just after united states.
And also, once in a while you may need to nuke an atolla or two. :) [/b][/quote]
Is tha Atolla not dead now Snny? Him that caused a lot of trouble in Iran.

[leonidas]

Originally posted by SnnY@22 November 2003 - 21:06
And also, once in a while you may need to nuke an atolla or two. :)
Yep. Australian people might buy warm coat in case of a little nuclear winter :lol:

[Snee]

The Ayatolla Khomeini is dead.

The tropical island/Atoll Muroroa is nuked, as are all members of the Atolla-species in the ocean around it (though I was referring to the island, the &#39;a&#39; was a slip of key). :)

[bigboab]

Originally posted by SnnY@22 November 2003 - 20:20
The Ayatolla Khomeini is dead.

The tropical island/Atoll Muroroa is nuked, as are all members of the Atolla-species in the ocean around it (though I was referring to the island, the &#39;a&#39; was a slip of key). :)
I am just in a happy mood Snny ;) Just won £10 on the Lottery. I guess that will cover some amber nectar for the weekend. :lol: :lol:

[Snee]

Originally posted by bigboab+22 November 2003 - 21:22--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigboab @ 22 November 2003 - 21:22)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SnnY@22 November 2003 - 20:20
The Ayatolla Khomeini is dead.

The tropical island/Atoll Muroroa is nuked, as are all members of the Atolla-species in the ocean around it (though I was referring to the island, the &#39;a&#39; was a slip of key). :)
I am just in a happy mood Snny ;) Just won £10 on the Lottery. I guess that will cover some amber nectar for the weekend. :lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
I bet mrs. Bigboab&#39;ll have a better use for that money :P

Gotta go now, sorry :unsure:

[bigboab]

Why did you have to go and tell her. :(


Its OK it is not in pictures. :lol:

[kAb]

the french make weapons?

since when?

[bigboab]

Originally posted by kAb@22 November 2003 - 20:41
the french make weapons?

since when?
Reverse lights for Italian tanks. :lol:

[j2k4]

Originally posted by kAb@22 November 2003 - 16:41
the french make weapons?

since when?
They make a variety of hand propelled weapons.

When they don&#39;t work as engineered, you just throw them at your enemy. ;)

Their warplane is called the Mirage because it doesn&#39;t really........oh, nevermind. :)

[J'Pol]

They make them, they sell them, they just don&#39;t use them.

[leonidas]

[QUOTE=j2k4,22 November 2003 - 22:14] Their warplane is called the Mirage because it doesn&#39;t really........can be seen by an average human eye passing though the sky, due to its incredible speed skills. I&#39;am sure that&#39;s what you meant <_<

[TheDave]

arent the french partners in the eurofighter thing, the best fighter jet in the world

[leonidas]

Originally posted by TheDave@22 November 2003 - 22:39
arent the french partners in the eurofighter thing, the best fighter jet in the world
No. The germans made it and the english are using it.

[TheDave]

Originally posted by leonidas+22 November 2003 - 21:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (leonidas @ 22 November 2003 - 21:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheDave@22 November 2003 - 22:39
arent the french partners in the eurofighter thing, the best fighter jet in the world
No. The germans made it and the english are using it. [/b][/quote]
ha. you suck&#33;&#33;&#33;






:P j/k

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by kAb@22 November 2003 - 20:41
the french make weapons?

since when?
Yes they do, Remember the Exocet...it sunk HMS Sheffield :(

[leonidas]

http://www.erdkunde-online.de/hintergrund/gif/chirac.jpg
http://www.seppo.net/enviro/chirac.gif
:lol:

[leonidas]

Originally posted by nigel123+22 November 2003 - 22:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 22 November 2003 - 22:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kAb@22 November 2003 - 20:41
the french make weapons?

since when?
Yes they do, Remember the Exocet...it sunk HMS Sheffield :( [/b][/quote]
could you explain please? :)

[Gemby!]

im anti-violence so shame on you &#33;&#33;

but its your choice so have fun :P

[leonidas]

Originally posted by gemby&#33;+22 November 2003 - 23:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gemby&#33; @ 22 November 2003 - 23:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> im anti-violence so shame on you &#33;&#33;

but its your choice so have fun :P [/b]
Actally things r less simple than you think.

<!--QuoteBegin- Me November 2003 &#045; 21:..
Actually, the reason I decided not to refuse the job, is because of a "philosophy" I have for a few months now: I think that watever you&#39;re gonna do, if you decide to live, in the actual world you will hurt somebody. Look at our computers for example. They are made by asian slaves, the same for our clothes. there are wars allover the world because of gaz, so if you use your car you&#39;re guilty. [/quote]

In reality the best way to be a moral personn would be to be a nun or smthg. :huh:

[Spider_dude]

i am too lazy to read 3 pages, just tell me has anyone made any jokes about the french and surrenderring? if not let me know.

[shadyness]

i am too lazy to read 3 pages, just tell me has anyone made any jokes about the french and surrenderring? if not let me know.

hahahahaahaha same here, read the 1st page though. Aren't we all a happy bunch of lazy pirates?:lol:

[Jagarga]

i just did the exact same thing. wtf, the missing years.

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by kAb@22 November 2003 - 20:41
the french make weapons?

since when?
Reverse lights for Italian tanks. :lol:

How funny, BigBoab did this very same joke last month too :O