Dead files in Newshosting

[goodbuddy]

I have been using Newshosting for many years
But i seem to be getting more and more dead files
Even quite new NZB files go red when I try and download them
Does anyone else have the same problem?
Thanks in advance for any info.

[Beck38]

I'm sure the first thing to leap off everyone's fingers/keyboard is.... DMCA.

You DO have a secondary provider...for fills? (i.e., Blocknews seems to be a fav with a lot of folks, they get a thumbs up from me)

And I'm sure you're using NZBcc to check out things before you go off sucking things off whoever... right?

And since you didn't list exactly what you're trying to grab, that it isn't pro-wrestling or p0rn or something that's so obviously in the cross-hair's of the folks giving aid and comfort to organized crime types...?

So... being that at any given time somewhere around 90% of binaries posted on usenet these days is encrypted in one way or another, it's somewhat interesting that you are hitting things that are being 'wacked'.

This of course presupposes that the plant at newshosting isn't 'gone off the rails'; It's been a VERY long time since I've even looked at them or their 'host plant', 'highwinds'.

Many will probably bring that up first and tell you to get a better server/plant.

[piercerseth]

'highwinds'. Many will probably bring that up first and tell you to get a better server/plant. heh. Get off Highwinds. -OR- start automating your grabs. -OR- get a decent block provider.

[Beck38]

And yet (once) again, I remind the OP and anyone else (!) who is 'listening', that I have yet to have ANY posting 'targeted', and this is over many years of continuous feeding the gaping maw of usenet, admittedly for a goodly chunk of that time at what was pathetic speeds (I AM in the USofSlowInternet) and pre-HD, but doing much better/faster since quite a bit before the 'great encryption' flood around the time of the demise of several 'popular' indexing sites.

[user3240]

And yet (once) again, I remind the OP and anyone else (!) who is 'listening', that I have yet to have ANY posting 'targeted', and this is over many years of continuous feeding the gaping maw of usenet, admittedly for a goodly chunk of that time at what was pathetic speeds (I AM in the USofSlowInternet) and pre-HD, but doing much better/faster since quite a bit before the 'great encryption' flood around the time of the demise of several 'popular' indexing sites.

Nobody listens to a guy who says He has some virtually foolproof way of posting on Usenet that is easy to figure out and yet "beats" the takedown bots. Show us some proof. Show us a few Godamnn posts of popular shows (subject to rapid takedowns ) that proves your method.

[nntpjunkie]

I have been using Newshosting for many years
But i seem to be getting more and more dead files
Even quite new NZB files go red when I try and download them
Does anyone else have the same problem?
Thanks in advance for any info.

I use newshosting and have been with them a long time - I don't have any issue downloading anything, but I also use Eweka as my backup filler. As they are dutch, they cannot be touched by the likes of the DMCA :-)

[hdjunky]

I have been using Newshosting for many years
But i seem to be getting more and more dead files
Even quite new NZB files go red when I try and download them
Does anyone else have the same problem?
Thanks in advance for any info.

I use newshosting and have been with them a long time - I don't have any issue downloading anything, but I also use Eweka as my backup filler. As they are dutch, they cannot be touched by the likes of the DMCA :-)

you are also a shill for newshosting and highwinds. it isnt just chance that you recomend a highwinds block provider to fill in your highwinds main provider.

[Beck38]

Nobody listens to a guy who says He has some virtually foolproof way of posting on Usenet that is easy to figure out and yet "beats" the takedown bots. Show us some proof. Show us a few Godamnn posts of popular shows (subject to rapid takedowns ) that proves your method.

And probably nobody cares about folks who complain about the pro-wrestling takedowns and the like (or why they chase after it in the first place), and can't figure out the silly ways that many private sites have encrypted this type of 'fare'.

If 'popular shows' means things that are completely free 'over the air' (and easily captured and processed by fairly inexpensive hardware/software), and/or are easily available via Netflix (and similarly processed with s/w and h/w), then what you are complaining about is that you can't seem to figure out how to 'do it yourself' and are relying on others work.

I don't spend my time, effort, and machines on fare that, in a few years, will join other tv ilk alongside 'Gilligan's Island' and the like in the dustbin of crud. Movies are quite another thing, although I will admit that there are a few series that are a cut above, and have been processed and posted. If there is something out there that pulls your chain, then spend the time doing it yourself; if you can't, then it must not be that important.

[user3240]

And probably nobody cares about folks who complain about the pro-wrestling takedowns and the like (or why they chase after it in the first place), and can't figure out the silly ways that many private sites have encrypted this type of 'fare'.

If 'popular shows' means things that are completely free 'over the air' (and easily captured and processed by fairly inexpensive hardware/software), and/or are easily available via Netflix (and similarly processed with s/w and h/w), then what you are complaining about is that you can't seem to figure out how to 'do it yourself' and are relying on others work.

I don't spend my time, effort, and machines on fare that, in a few years, will join other tv ilk alongside 'Gilligan's Island' and the like in the dustbin of crud. Movies are quite another thing, although I will admit that there are a few series that are a cut above, and have been processed and posted. If there is something out there that pulls your chain, then spend the time doing it yourself; if you can't, then it must not be that important.

Nice job of deflection Beck.

The UFC PPV and Game of thrones have nothing to do with "rasslin." Neither are on OTA or Netflix. I definitely know how to upload and bypass the bots. Unlike you, I don't pretend that I have some method that is "almost in the clear," easy for anybody using Binsearch to find and still fools the takedown bots.

I would like to point out that there are free Newznab sites that can decode the obfuscated posts. There are forum based (donation optional ) sites that have humans posting the correct names of the files. Some are available on IRC.

You have confirmed my suspicions. The reason you don't have takedowns of your posts is not because you have a magic formula. It works because you like shows that have a small audience and don't raise the ire of the copyright trolls.

Thanks for playing.

[Beck38]

The UFC PPV and Game of thrones have nothing to do with "rasslin." Neither are on OTA or Netflix.

Incorrect. 'UFC' IS 'rasslin', and 'Game of Thrones' has been available (in both SD/DVD and HD/Bluray) ever since the end of the first season (or the start of the second, I can't remember which). In fact, HBO is on record saying they have 'moved up' the release date to home video, due to the widespread availability of captures through torrents; no mention, btw, of usenet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones#Piracy




You have confirmed my suspicions. The reason you don't have takedowns of your posts is not because you have a magic formula. It works because you like shows that have a small audience and don't raise the ire of the copyright trolls.


Really? I don't think so, unless you count (as a good 'for instance') extremely popular and recent fare such as the X-men series, the Marvel movies (just to name a few sci-fi releases) and a rather huge number of multi-Academy Award flicks yes, going back quite a few years but a goodly number in the IMDB 'top 250' listing. I might add many of those have been 'zapped' in the past (within the last couple of years rather heavily), and in fact got on my 'to do' list because of it.

Yes, there are more than a few folks running open newsnab style indexers, they are easily found by the web-crawler at Google, and as well as this sites nzb's. Using mr G is the first step in trying to 'decode' any posting; to be sure, those pay-sites that are utilizing essentially 'one time pads' to both hide the posting title as well as rar-encryption, those are pretty much gone.

But like I pointed out, there's so much either 'in the clear' completely (just look at the listings here on FST) or with utilizing 'open' encryption (I've helped many here figure out that system) that does a pretty fair job of obfuscation.

A good example of 'open' postings is 'Real Time' (HBO/Bill Mahr) that has a couple folks posting it literally hours after it's 'broadcast', and have been doing so for multiple years/seasons, yet I've never seen them ever taken down. Again, not 'rasslin' or p0rn, and I guess by your definition it's a 'small audience' (so all those folks that post messages moaning and groaning on a.b.teevee when it takes the folks doing the captures more than a few hours processing it must be a figment of my imagination).

So, got any other 'examples' (like GOT or UFC/rasslin) you want to bring up? Maybe it'll jog my memory and I'll put it on my 'to do' list.

[user3240]

Incorrect. 'UFC' IS 'rasslin', and 'Game of Thrones' has been available (in both SD/DVD and HD/Bluray) ever since the end of the first season (or the start of the second, I can't remember which). In fact, HBO is on record saying they have 'moved up' the release date to home video, due to the widespread availability of captures through torrents; no mention, btw, of usenet.

I meant the UFC has nothing to do with Pro Wrestling. The fights are real. I said G.O.T was not available OTR or on Netflix. Most people want to see it on the day it airs not on DVD after the season is over. A complete season is about €45. Who wants to pay that much months after the season is over? It's cheaper on Usenet <g>


But like I pointed out, there's so much either 'in the clear' completely (just look at the listings here on FST) or with utilizing 'open' encryption (I've helped many here figure out that system) that does a pretty fair job of obfuscation.

A good example of 'open' postings is 'Real Time' (HBO/Bill Mahr) that has a couple folks posting it literally hours after it's 'broadcast', and have been doing so for multiple years/seasons, yet I've never seen them ever taken down. Again, not 'rasslin' or p0rn, and I guess by your definition it's a 'small audience' (so all those folks that post messages moaning and groaning on a.b.teevee when it takes the folks doing the captures more than a few hours processing it must be a figment of my imagination).

Even some of G.O.T episodes are put out in the clear. The purpose of using a newznab type indexer is to automate the process. It's not just a matter of decoding the encrypted files. It's also important to filter out all spam and passworded files. It's possible to do filtering on raw indexers but it's so much more convenient to pay somebody a modest amount of money each year to do it for you.

If you want to do it yourself, you can set up your own newznab indexer. There is no conspiracy by uploaders to get people to join a paysite. I'll take your word for it that your "open encryption " is working. Still, I don't like wading through spam filled raw indexers unless I'm looking for something that I can't find on a good index or a good forum.

Trying to find worthwhile cracked software on a raw indexer is usually an exercise in futility. Ditto for a lot of other things that have nothing to do with TV or movies.

Ever since Newsbin #1 popularized the NZB, it has seldom been free of charge to get all NZBs in a spam free/password free index.

[Beck38]

I meant the UFC has nothing to do with Pro Wrestling. The fights are real. I said G.O.T was not available OTR or on Netflix. Most people want to see it on the day it airs not on DVD after the season is over. A complete season is about €45. Who wants to pay that much months after the season is over? It's cheaper on Usenet <g>.

You gave me my first good laugh of the day. I suppose you think that 'superhero' flix are 'real' as well, and people are so enamored of episodic tv fare they can't wait a year or so to find out if Joey bangs Jill or Guido wacks whomever; Really.

What difference is it going to make 20 years from now...? Zero. The only thing I can figure is that general tv fare in the Euro-zone is so poor (I lived there for several years, three big chunks of time), with 1-2 tv channels (pre-satellite and in later years with) and it was pretty dull overall, being 'programmed' by government bureaucrats. But still. Get a life, seriously.

Soprano got wacked. Gilligan kinda got off the island. The 'Fringe' folks were all living in a dream (or something, who can figure out THAT ending!?!), and Joey will still be banging Jill 100 years from now, in video heaven. All pretty minimal fare, got for a evening or two of mind numbing.

[sandman_1]

Beck you have no fucking clue what you are talking about when it comes to the UFC and mixed martial arts. You don't obviously watch it, have any mixed martial arts background, nor have an understanding of the techniques employed. You can laugh all you want but you just come off like an idiot.

[nntpjunkie]

I use newshosting and have been with them a long time - I don't have any issue downloading anything, but I also use Eweka as my backup filler. As they are dutch, they cannot be touched by the likes of the DMCA :-)

you are also a shill for newshosting and highwinds. it isnt just chance that you recomend a highwinds block provider to fill in your highwinds main provider.

Why don't you try it for yourself and you'll see that I am right and you can give an opinion that actually benefits the other users on the board. The combo works...

[ng4ever]

I have been using Newshosting for many years
But i seem to be getting more and more dead files
Even quite new NZB files go red when I try and download them
Does anyone else have the same problem?
Thanks in advance for any info.

I use newshosting and have been with them a long time - I don't have any issue downloading anything, but I also use Eweka as my backup filler. As they are dutch, they cannot be touched by the likes of the DMCA :-)

Actually Eweka can be touched by the likes of the DMCA.

[DngrMs]

Nobody listens to a guy who says He has some virtually foolproof way of posting on Usenet that is easy to figure out and yet "beats" the takedown bots. Show us some proof. Show us a few Godamnn posts of popular shows (subject to rapid takedowns ) that proves your method.

This. I've asked for an example of this "magic" in the past and haven't received one.


Beck you have no fucking clue what you are talking about when it comes to the UFC and mixed martial arts. You don't obviously watch it, have any mixed martial arts background, nor have an understanding of the techniques employed. You can laugh all you want but you just come off like an idiot.

This too. MMA != Pro Wrestling

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Beck38 has some valid technical knowledge and certainly some patience and tenacity but he overlooks some basic Usenet concepts such as provider segregation.

Posting with clear names is fine. Posting with encoded names is fine too as long as some people know how to decode them.

Get a provider without US links and don't focus on retention.

(Disclaimer: I get my UFC from FTP or IRC, it's often faster.)

[megabyteme]

Disclaimer: I get my UFC from FTP or IRC, it's often faster.

This is one area where private torrent sites have strength. Rarely, if ever, is there an issue with file takedowns. For those experiencing difficulty with shows such as UFC, it might not hurt to have a general tracker. Use newsgroups for everything else.

[DngrMs]

Disclaimer: I get my UFC from FTP or IRC, it's often faster.

This is one area where private torrent sites have strength. Rarely, if ever, is there an issue with file takedowns. For those experiencing difficulty with shows such as UFC, it might not hurt to have a general tracker. Use newsgroups for everything else.

Je ne comprends pas... how does my preference for FTP or IRC over Usenet (all one-way traffic) equate to recommending bittorrent?

Unless you have a rock-solid secure tracker then that's the last avenue I'd recommend for targeted content... :blink:

[megabyteme]

This is one area where private torrent sites have strength. Rarely, if ever, is there an issue with file takedowns. For those experiencing difficulty with shows such as UFC, it might not hurt to have a general tracker. Use newsgroups for everything else.

Je ne comprends pas... how does my preference for FTP or IRC over Usenet (all one-way traffic) equate to recommending bittorrent?

Unless you have a rock-solid secure tracker then that's the last avenue I'd recommend for targeted content... :blink:

Sorry, I quoted you, but was speaking generally to those who are having trouble finding certain files.

Personally, I stick to private trackers and limit my uploading to 140%. This makes up for files that "fall short" and keeps my chances of being snagged to a reasonable level. It has been a couple years since I received any kind of DMCA notice and I was FAR more careless during the couple times I did receive letters.

FTP and IRC are good options if they are available.

[DngrMs]

...was speaking generally to those who are having trouble finding certain files.

Got ya :cool:
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Both FTP and IRC are open to all and easily accessible. You're sure to pay for good FTP ax but unless you need sub 60 min content then you can suck it off IRC for free...

Edit: I've convinced my dim self that the only people who pay for random FTP sites are uploaders to file lockers who are dragneting credits.