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legal_person
11-22-2003, 10:46 PM
I don't care how much money artists or the RIAA make, downloading music is illegal. You can't justify breaking the law just because you don't think it's fair that the music industry makes too much money. That's capitalism at work. If you don't like it, move to North Korea and see how much you like communism.
[B][O][T]
11-22-2003, 10:53 PM
It's NOT illegal to download music.

BOT
callum
11-22-2003, 10:54 PM
Would I still be able to get a 1mb internet connection in North Korea?
Keikan
11-22-2003, 10:56 PM
No it an't lier!!!! :angry:
SeK612
11-22-2003, 10:57 PM
I download because I can. If I like an artist enough I will go out and buy the album and support them if not then I don't. I don't resell downloaded music nor profit from it financially and the artist has not gained or lost any money from me doing so...
Benno
11-22-2003, 11:03 PM
:o Really it is? Why did nobody tell me this <_<


You can&#39;t justify breaking the law just because you don&#39;t think it&#39;s fair

i for my part dont justify it in anyway, I know its against the law to SHARE COPYRIGHTED songs and I can live with it


If I like an artist enough I will go out and buy the album and support them if not then I don&#39;t. I don&#39;t resell downloaded music nor profit from it financially and the artist has not gained or lost any money from me doing so...

I second that



It&#39;s NOT illegal to download music.

:)
Mik3ll
11-22-2003, 11:07 PM
I dont see it as downloading illegally, I see it as trading legally.
wormless
11-22-2003, 11:09 PM
example: people like robbie williams who cant crack america need people like us to share his music if they like him but i think they already said his songs are to slopy or something like that&#33;
Keikan
11-22-2003, 11:40 PM
If it was really illegal then p2p would be gone by now right?
internet.news
11-22-2003, 11:42 PM
sharing of thoughts could not be forbidden :) openly ;)
Illuminati
11-22-2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by legal_person@22 November 2003 - 23:46
I don&#39;t care how much money artists or the RIAA make, downloading music is illegal. You can&#39;t justify breaking the law just because you don&#39;t think it&#39;s fair that the music industry makes too much money. That&#39;s capitalism at work. If you don&#39;t like it, move to North Korea and see how much you like communism.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares5.jpg
SeK612
11-22-2003, 11:48 PM
If it was really illegal then p2p would be gone by now right?

Of course its illegal :)

Programs like Kazaa/Bittorrent/Emule are not illegal on their own (and I believe Sharman have won court cases which prove that they&#39;re not) its what most people do with them (ie sharing cracked/ripped files and files which they have no permission to distribute).

But realistically theres no way around it downloading pretty much anything from Kazaa or any P2P app breeches copyright laws.
Ferasso
11-22-2003, 11:50 PM
Yes, downloading music is illegal. That&#39;s why i just download porn. :P
But just 18+ babes. :lol:
Storm
11-23-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by legal_person@22 November 2003 - 23:46
I don&#39;t care how much money artists or the RIAA make, downloading music is illegal. You can&#39;t justify breaking the law just because you don&#39;t think it&#39;s fair that the music industry makes too much money. That&#39;s capitalism at work. If you don&#39;t like it, move to North Korea and see how much you like communism.
*laughs*


*laughs*


*laughs some more*


*points @ legal_person and laughs*



its NOT illegal to download music........ for sum1 callin him/herself legal_person u dun really no shit bout laws........... LMAO

its illegal 2 download COPYWRITED songs WITHOUT the copywriteholders permission.......... even this bein the case............. WHO GIVES A FLYIN FUCK????

if it was so damn illegal y dont u eva hear of the case of "the people against the copier"??? ppl speed on highways, ppl walk through red, ppl tell other ppls jokes and COPY OTHER PPLZ songs..........

i second Illuminati
Scorpion53
11-23-2003, 12:14 AM
So is driving 56 mph in a 55 mph speed zone or cheating on your taxes&#33; Are you perfect enough to condemn?
camille
11-23-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by [B][O][T]@23 November 2003 - 06:53
It&#39;s NOT illegal to download music.

BOT
You&#39;re right BOT, maybe he&#39;s a musician or an artist. he- he -he- he
Formula1
11-23-2003, 12:25 AM
downloaidng music isnt illegal fool , sharing them is.
Keikan
11-23-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by internet.news@22 November 2003 - 16:42
sharing of thoughts could not be forbidden :) openly ;)
........ how many times have you posted that messsage
Ricey
11-23-2003, 01:09 AM
Exactly, DOWNLOADING FILES is NOT illegal. UPLOADING FILES is. So legal man, whoever has you as their lawyer - ifeel sorry for them. I could be a better lawyer than you - and Im a ginger 14 year old from scotland - &#39;nuff said :D :lol: :D
Toon Nut
11-23-2003, 02:26 AM
Can somebody please explain to me why downloading music is NOT illegal?

Does that mean buying pirate software is not illegal but selling it is?

If it is only uploading and not downloading that is illegal, then we should be thankful for those out there who risk their hide sharing files for us openly without privacy patches.
james_bond_rulez
11-23-2003, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by Toon Nut@23 November 2003 - 02:26
Can somebody please explain to me why downloading music is NOT illegal?

Does that mean buying pirate software is not illegal but selling it is?

If it is only uploading and not downloading that is illegal, then we should be thankful for those out there who risk their hide sharing files for us openly without privacy patches.
just shut up and let me enjoy my pirated music :lol:
DasScoot
11-23-2003, 03:25 AM
Uploading AND Downloading copywritten material without permission is illegal. The question then is...


....



...who cares? :lol:
Mik3ll
11-23-2003, 04:53 AM
Look at this http://www.myhpclub.com/index.cgi?CONTENT_...9&SITE=MYHPCLUB (http://www.myhpclub.com/index.cgi?CONTENT_ID=849&SITE=MYHPCLUB) I found the link from my default homepage http://hp.netscape.com/hp.adp and you can download a few songs for free, looks like HP doesnt think its illegal either.
Arm
11-23-2003, 05:28 AM
:blink: Does the RIAA pay some asshole to go onto Kazaa forums and talk a bunch of crap to try and scare some people off from pirating mp3s? I&#39;ve seen a bunch of newbies coming here acting like they are scared of getting sued by the RIAA and their new tactics.

It aint working Sherman. :rolleyes:
Toon Nut
11-23-2003, 07:27 AM
I am not a noob trying to scare people.

I am simply asking a question.

Somebody said dowloading is not illegal but uploading is.

All I want to know is why and what does the law state?

Since when is somebody trying to broaden their knowledge or help them feel a little more secure an attempt at scaring people?
Arm
11-23-2003, 07:54 AM
By illegal you mean being prosecuted and sent to jail right? No, pirating mp3s is not illegal. You can get sued by the RIAA though.

:angry: Just share your damn files and shut up.
The Real Santa
11-23-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by legal_person@22 November 2003 - 22:46
I don&#39;t care how much money artists or the RIAA make, downloading music is illegal. You can&#39;t justify breaking the law just because you don&#39;t think it&#39;s fair that the music industry makes too much money. That&#39;s capitalism at work. If you don&#39;t like it, move to North Korea and see how much you like communism.
lol also this is a free country blahahaha we can do whatever we want :P ok mabe not i don&#39;t care im gonna download fuck the riaa




-santa :santa:
Arm
11-23-2003, 09:10 AM
:) Communism kicks ass.
tracydani
11-23-2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Arm@23 November 2003 - 07:28
:blink: Does the RIAA pay some asshole to go onto Kazaa forums and talk a bunch of crap to try and scare some people off from pirating mp3s? I&#39;ve seen a bunch of newbies coming here acting like they are scared of getting sued by the RIAA and their new tactics.

It aint working Sherman. :rolleyes:
Ya, didn&#39;t you see the 60 minutes bit on piracy? If your gonna pirate, you gotta get that :lol:

TD
Arm
11-23-2003, 10:52 AM
Arm watches very little TV. I&#39;de watch more if I had cable. :angry: But no I did not see that. :(
abu_has_the_power
11-23-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Arm@23 November 2003 - 05:52
Arm watches very little TV. I&#39;de watch more if I had cable. :angry: But no I did not see that. :(
it was on suprnova.

anyways, dude. who do u work 4? wait, i know u, ur that guy from the RIAA that gives blowjobs for money. lol
jk jk man

yea. downloading is illegal. but who said u have to listen to music?
i don&#39;t. i only listen to NONCOPYRIGHTED techno remixes.
3rd gen noob
11-23-2003, 07:52 PM
this topic is funny :lol:
The Real Santa
11-23-2003, 08:08 PM
santa has no money to keep buying these damn kids cds over priced under quality i will justdownload them then put them on a cd hohohoho





-santa :santa:
Sparkle1984
11-23-2003, 10:18 PM
Hey you stupid n00b who started this topic &#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: I love sharing all night and there&#39;s nothing in the world you can do to stop us &#33;&#33;&#33; And while you&#39;re at it, trying to stop us, how is your pet dinosaur doing??&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol:

4,102,147 users online right this minute &#33;&#33; :D We don&#39;t give a hoot about your silly threats and your silly little message on this forum &#33;&#33;
Go sit in your mansion and cry, you RIAA lackey &#33;&#33;&#33; You were given many chances to organise a deal with filesharers, but you always refused. You have brought everything on yourselves, and we can never forget what you did to that 12 year old girl &#33;&#33;

When I hear people like you, it only makes me determined to share even more &#33;&#33; You can whinge whine like you always do, but you can&#39;t stop technological advancement &#33;&#33;:lol: KaZaA and filesharing is here to stay &#33;&#33;&#33; YAY&#33;&#33; :lol:
3rd gen noob
11-23-2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Sparkle1984@23 November 2003 - 21:18
I love sharing all night and there&#39;s nothing in the world you can do to stop me &#33;&#33;&#33;
putting you in jail and/or taking away your computer would stop you... :rolleyes:

p.s. i don&#39;t know if you&#39;re old enough to go to jail, if this is the case, you&#39;ll just get your arms cut off
Sparkle1984
11-23-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+23 November 2003 - 22:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 23 November 2003 - 22:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sparkle1984@23 November 2003 - 21:18
I love sharing all night and there&#39;s nothing in the world you can do to stop me &#33;&#33;&#33;
putting you in jail and/or taking away your computer would stop you... :rolleyes:

p.s. i don&#39;t know if you&#39;re old enough to go to jail, if this is the case, you&#39;ll just get your arms cut off [/b][/quote]
LOL &#33;&#33; I&#39;ve just edited my post, to make it clearer. What I meant is that they can&#39;t stop everyone in the world, not just one person in particular.
jakert50
11-23-2003, 10:29 PM
Welcome to the P2P Cold War

The RIAA or anyone can&#39;t stop it. It&#39;s a disease. But not a bad disease. It spread like wildfire. But it&#39;s not bad like a wildfire. For all I care, the RIAA can kiss my ass.mp3&#33;&#33;&#33;

~Jaker
abu_has_the_power
11-23-2003, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Sparkle1984@23 November 2003 - 17:18
Hey you stupid n00b who started this topic &#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: I love sharing all night and there&#39;s nothing in the world you can do to stop us &#33;&#33;&#33; And while you&#39;re at it, trying to stop us, how is your pet dinosaur doing??&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol:

4,102,147 users online right this minute &#33;&#33; :D We don&#39;t give a hoot about your silly threats and your silly little message on this forum &#33;&#33;
Go sit in your mansion and cry, you RIAA lackey &#33;&#33;&#33; You were given many chances to organise a deal with filesharers, but you always refused. You have brought everything on yourselves, and we can never forget what you did to that 12 year old girl &#33;&#33;

When I hear people like you, it only makes me determined to share even more &#33;&#33; You can whinge whine like you always do, but you can&#39;t stop technological advancement &#33;&#33;:lol: KaZaA and filesharing is here to stay &#33;&#33;&#33; YAY&#33;&#33; :lol:
nicely said sparkle.

wtf did u sue the little girl 4? y do u have to assholes all the time? y did u have to rape those squirrels? y? they were just squirrels. and y do u sue grandmas? wtf is wrong in ur little brain?

p2p all the way, not that i dl or anything. ;) ;) no really, i don&#39;t dl copyrighted songs. if u check my pc, i have like 7 japanese anime theme songs and 10 techno remixes by dudes. i&#39;m not a musical person. i need ambient and trancical music to help me concentrate... it really helps.


and btw, stop raping those poor squirrels. please?

:D :P
The Real Santa
11-24-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by jakert50@23 November 2003 - 22:29
Welcome to the P2P Cold War

The RIAA or anyone can&#39;t stop it. It&#39;s a disease. But not a bad disease. It spread like wildfire. But it&#39;s not bad like a wildfire. For all I care, the RIAA can kiss my ass.mp3&#33;&#33;&#33;

~Jaker
hey i was the first one who said the RIAA can kiss my ass
UKMan
11-24-2003, 02:17 PM
WOW the original poster made just one post and dissapeared - did he get nicked i wonder :lol: :lol:

:D Another useless thread about the legalities of downloading and sharing files :D

Peace
UKMan

edit:typo, what else ;)
Sparkle1984
11-24-2003, 06:31 PM
I think it&#39;s obvious the person just started this topic in order to cause a flame-war. Look at the language they used - they don&#39;t even know what they&#39;re talking about, and then they start going on about North Korea, as if they think Koreans are the owners of K-Lite or something&#33;&#33;
Now They have disappeared, probably too scared to see what people have written about them&#33;&#33; Hopefully they will never come back in here again &#33;&#33;&#33;
legal_person
11-25-2003, 02:24 AM
Hahaha, you people make me laugh&#33; You guys have the worst logic I&#39;ve seen in quite a while&#33; Mainly those of you who cry "file-sharing will never die, screw the RIAA&#33;"... I never said it would die. I simply said that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. You can keep filesharing as long as you please, but you can&#39;t deny that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. Except of course for those of you who download non-copyrighted files.

But seriously, you guys are HILARIOUS&#33; Sparkle1984, you&#39;re the most entertaining. You rave on and on and on about how determined you are to share and how you don&#39;t care at all about "threats" by the RIAA. Dude, get a life&#33; If you don&#39;t care about my "threats" then why are you wasting your time on this forum? Haha, dude, you&#39;re such a loser. Get a girlfriend and get a job, do something real with your life.

Anyways, keep arguing with me, i&#39;m enjoying it.
legal_person
11-25-2003, 02:26 AM
:lol:
callum
11-25-2003, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by legal_person@25 November 2003 - 02:24
Hahaha, you people make me laugh&#33; You guys have the worst logic I&#39;ve seen in quite a while&#33; Mainly those of you who cry "file-sharing will never die, screw the RIAA&#33;"... I never said it would die. I simply said that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. You can keep filesharing as long as you please, but you can&#39;t deny that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. Except of course for those of you who download non-copyrighted files.

But seriously, you guys are HILARIOUS&#33; Sparkle1984, you&#39;re the most entertaining. You rave on and on and on about how determined you are to share and how you don&#39;t care at all about "threats" by the RIAA. Dude, get a life&#33; If you don&#39;t care about my "threats" then why are you wasting your time on this forum? Haha, dude, you&#39;re such a loser. Get a girlfriend and get a job, do something real with your life.

Anyways, keep arguing with me, i&#39;m enjoying it.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts openly.
UKMan
11-25-2003, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by legal_person@25 November 2003 - 03:24
Sparkle1984, you&#39;re the most entertaining. You rave on and on and on about how determined you are to share and how you don&#39;t care at all about "threats" by the RIAA. Dude, get a life&#33; If you don&#39;t care about my "threats" then why are you wasting your time on this forum? Haha, dude, you&#39;re such a loser. Get a girlfriend and get a job, do something real with your life.

Anyways, keep arguing with me, i&#39;m enjoying it.
Wheres the logic in your argument?

Hes not wasting time on this forum. The reason he is here is to share his knowledge about P2P and help others do the same. Thats why hes here and why he dosnt care about threats ;)

So a loser he isnt. He is doing something real. As regards a girlfriend, well, i dont know him - do you? A job, i dont know that either - do you?

Peace
UKMan
abu_has_the_power
11-25-2003, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by legal_person@24 November 2003 - 21:24
non-copyrighted files.

think about it, other than me, how many music people out there will share and dl non-copyrighted songs? i mean, i used to have a decent collection of about 100 mp3&#39;s. then i got bored and started exploring techno, which turned out to be really helpful when i&#39;m trying to concentrate. now, all i listen to is techno remixes (non-copyrighted).

still, yes, dling music is a bad thing, but would u rather pay &#036;16-20 for a cd when u only want to listen to one or two songs? i mean, u really have to too rich or too stupid to do something like that. and also, those itunes and rhapsody and stuff, they charge &#036;0.99 for 1 song. so if u dl a cd&#39;s worth of song&#39;s, that&#39;s &#036;20&#33;&#33; wtf&#33; i&#39;m not that rich&#33;&#33; and look at the pathetic collection of songs. i mean, the new napster has like 2000 songs in it&#39;s database (data is an estimate, most likely more than 2000). my friend tried to look for the Beatles, and they were&#39;t even listed. i mean, wat kind of pathetic service is that? so, even though i have no grudge with the RIAA, i still think their efforts are futile. there is no fuking way they can stop 60 million american kazaa users (and that&#39;s just kazaa user, not counting emule and bittorrent and irc) from pirating no matter how hard they try.

and if u do work for the riaa, take a break from the cock sucking (jk :lol: ) and go home and spend some time with ur kids. lol. i just think ur efforts aren&#39;t really solving any probs. i can point u to some great articles saying that piracy might actually save ur business. if u want to, just say so, and i&#39;ll give u a couple of links.
Ariel_001
11-25-2003, 03:36 AM
If you look at the way the United States of America got started it would be considered to be an illegal country :P :D :lol:
abu_has_the_power
11-25-2003, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by Ariel_001@24 November 2003 - 22:36
If you look at the way the United States of America got started it would be considered to be an illegal country :P :D :lol:
ha ha. yep. true. the british were evil. not british people now, but back then. they sold drugs to asian countries, and then fought wars with them just because they won&#39;t buy their drugs. wtf is that? is that evil or wat?
Pidda_Ffuugg
11-25-2003, 04:39 AM
Hey legal person, I don&#39;t really care for wrong or right, copyright or non-copyight...i just wanna get free stuff from all the crap cds i bought in the past. Now, when a good cd comes out and i liked the album i downloaded, I would buy it. That hasn&#39;t happened in many years.
Rappy
11-25-2003, 04:49 AM
when im rich i will start buying cds
Adster
11-25-2003, 04:50 AM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares1.jpg
Rappy
11-25-2003, 05:03 AM
Originally posted by Adster@25 November 2003 - 04:50
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares1.jpg
about what?
Adster
11-25-2003, 05:09 AM
about weather or not it is illegal or not
SniperInTheShadows
11-25-2003, 05:30 AM
@ Storm - "*points @ legal_person and laughs*" hahaha rofl I think you should have left your post at that point, it would&#39;ve been the perfect reply :)

@ legal_nobupbum - Are you affiliated in anyway with any legal organization? I highly doubt so and since your not where the fuck do you get off coming in here and telling peep&#39;s what to do when you don&#39;t even know them? Your post had no constructive arguement&#39;s to it and no real subtlety about it, just trying to force your opinion onto other&#39;s :(

Next time, try being a little more friendly and less forceful, might not get you anything but flamed still but i&#39;d imagine, and hope, it&#39;ll be less of an intense flame and more of a discussion :)

Sniper.
Rappy
11-25-2003, 05:37 AM
well if we really cared about the law we wouldn&#39;t be useing kazaa lite
Adster
11-25-2003, 05:48 AM
well if we really cared about the law we wouldn&#39;t be using kazaa lite

i don&#39;t use that program :P
jackc
11-25-2003, 10:53 AM
I was just wondering... Is this "legal person" so much legal in his/her other aspects of his/her life... I mean, does he/she always stop at red lights, never drives above the speed limits, doesn&#39;t ever annoy his/her neighbors with noise, pays taxes immaculately, etc., etc. Personally I doubt it, Mr. or Ms. Legal_Person, and given your second message&#39;s crap arguments ("get a girlfriend", etc.), I doubt that you have anything to do with the legal profession at all... ;)

Anyhow, just to add my own little opinion here: Yes, D/Ling music is illegal, but as far as I am concerned, there are more important illegal things happening out there: Crime, drugs, murder, embezzlement, etc. So until the world becomes a better place, I would suggest that the relevant authorities sort out these problems before annoying 4m happy users that simply exchange files without profiting from it.

Until then, I personally will continue sharing files unabated&#33; And BTW, in my continent (European Union), I do not even know if file-sharing is illegal anway :D
Arm
11-25-2003, 11:18 AM
Pirating mp3s is wrong? What about price fixing, screwing over the artists and pumping the mainstream media full of crappy artists (http://www.goodcharlotte.com/). :angry: Thats wrong and this is making it more fair.
Rappy
11-25-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by jackc@25 November 2003 - 10:53
I was just wondering... Is this "legal person" so much legal in his/her other aspects of his/her life... I mean, does he/she always stop at red lights, never drives above the speed limits, doesn&#39;t ever annoy his/her neighbors with noise, pays taxes immaculately, etc., etc. Personally I doubt it, Mr. or Ms. Legal_Person, and given your second message&#39;s crap arguments ("get a girlfriend", etc.), I doubt that you have anything to do with the legal profession at all... ;)

Anyhow, just to add my own little opinion here: Yes, D/Ling music is illegal, but as far as I am concerned, there are more important illegal things happening out there: Crime, drugs, murder, embezzlement, etc. So until the world becomes a better place, I would suggest that the relevant authorities sort out these problems before annoying 4m happy users that simply exchange files without profiting from it.

Until then, I personally will continue sharing files unabated&#33; And BTW, in my continent (European Union), I do not even know if file-sharing is illegal anway :D
well to me murder and stuff like that are more important than drugs but i won&#39;t go into that here
O'Neill
11-25-2003, 11:35 AM
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Thats about all Ive caught from this, but then I dont d/l music anyway so why in the flying monkeys ass would I really care
Wizzandabe
11-25-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Adster@25 November 2003 - 04:50
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares1.jpg
Not me&#33;
I bet a RIAA manager got fuck off mp2s on his pc. :P
Adster
11-25-2003, 01:34 PM
mp2s??/ i know what mp3s are but what are mp3s :huh:
Rappy
11-25-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Adster@25 November 2003 - 13:34
mp2s??/ i know what mp3s are but what are mp3s :huh:
what the hell :unsure:
Sparkle1984
11-25-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by legal_person@25 November 2003 - 01:24
Hahaha, you people make me laugh&#33; You guys have the worst logic I&#39;ve seen in quite a while&#33; Mainly those of you who cry "file-sharing will never die, screw the RIAA&#33;"... I never said it would die. I simply said that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. You can keep filesharing as long as you please, but you can&#39;t deny that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. Except of course for those of you who download non-copyrighted files.

But seriously, you guys are HILARIOUS&#33; Sparkle1984, you&#39;re the most entertaining. You rave on and on and on about how determined you are to share and how you don&#39;t care at all about "threats" by the RIAA. Dude, get a life&#33; If you don&#39;t care about my "threats" then why are you wasting your time on this forum? Haha, dude, you&#39;re such a loser. Get a girlfriend and get a job, do something real with your life.

Anyways, keep arguing with me, i&#39;m enjoying it.
:flame:

Get a girlfriend??&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: I am a girl &#33;&#33;&#33; Why do you assume everyone on this forum is a man??&#33;&#33; Get a job??&#33;&#33; I&#39;m a computing science student at university, and I have 2 little part-time jobs, if you really want to know&#33;&#33; I am very busy with my coursework, so now I only spend about an hour a day on this forum. Even though I don&#39;t care about your threats, I come on this forum because I like talking about filesharing, and sharing my thoughts openly, and getting ideas from others.
UKMan
11-25-2003, 05:17 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: Good for you Sparkle1984 :lol: :lol: :lol:
That made my day - really did roflmfao........
internet.news
11-26-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by legal_person@22 November 2003 - 23:46
I don&#39;t care how much money artists or the RIAA make, downloading music is illegal. You can&#39;t justify breaking the law just because you don&#39;t think it&#39;s fair that the music industry makes too much money. That&#39;s capitalism at work. If you don&#39;t like it, move to North Korea and see how much you like communism.
the only mistake at communism is: you cannot expect people of sharing
their thoughts & files openly cause they are just humans - that is sad...

so I am happy to see someone sharing ;)

and yeah there is more behind sharing: exchanging thoughts openly
could lead to a better understanding ;)
DasScoot
11-26-2003, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by Sparkle1984+25 November 2003 - 17:13--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sparkle1984 @ 25 November 2003 - 17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-legal_person@25 November 2003 - 01:24
Hahaha, you people make me laugh&#33; You guys have the worst logic I&#39;ve seen in quite a while&#33; Mainly those of you who cry "file-sharing will never die, screw the RIAA&#33;"... I never said it would die. I simply said that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. You can keep filesharing as long as you please, but you can&#39;t deny that what you&#39;re doing is wrong. Except of course for those of you who download non-copyrighted files.

But seriously, you guys are HILARIOUS&#33; Sparkle1984, you&#39;re the most entertaining. You rave on and on and on about how determined you are to share and how you don&#39;t care at all about "threats" by the RIAA. Dude, get a life&#33; If you don&#39;t care about my "threats" then why are you wasting your time on this forum? Haha, dude, you&#39;re such a loser. Get a girlfriend and get a job, do something real with your life.

Anyways, keep arguing with me, i&#39;m enjoying it.
:flame:

Get a girlfriend??&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: I am a girl &#33;&#33;&#33; Why do you assume everyone on this forum is a man??&#33;&#33; Get a job??&#33;&#33; I&#39;m a computing science student at university, and I have 2 little part-time jobs, if you really want to know&#33;&#33; I am very busy with my coursework, so now I only spend about an hour a day on this forum. Even though I don&#39;t care about your threats, I come on this forum because I like talking about filesharing, and sharing my thoughts openly, and getting ideas from others. [/b][/quote]
Hey, we&#39;re not judgemental here, you can still get a girlfriend. :D
legal_person
11-26-2003, 09:42 PM
My bad, I should have know that Sparkle, your name would be a pretty faggotty name for a guy.

Some of you bring up good points, but a lot of your arguments are still laughable. For example:

Pirating mp3s is wrong? What about price fixing, screwing over the artists and pumping the mainstream media full of crappy artists. Thats wrong and this is making it more fair. (posted by Arm)

First, screwing over the artists...how the heck are you helping the artists in any way? Sure, you might be helping them get known, but you&#39;re also distributing their music for free and that doesn&#39;t profit them at all. Second, pumping the mainstream media full of crappy artists...from what I see, those "crappy artists" in the mainstream are making the most money and getting the most popularity. They have countless more fans than the non-mainstream bands, so obviously they aren&#39;t as crappy as you say they are. And as for price fixing...well, it is their industry, and like I said earlier, we do practice capitalism in this country (thank goodness for that) so they can set whatever price they see fit.

And lastly, some of you are accusing me of focusing on something small like filesharing and overlooking murder, drugs, and embezzlement. Let me ask you all this, how many murders, druggies, and embezzlers are there in this forum? Except for all the loser druggies, I&#39;d have to say not a lot. So, in light of that, what&#39;s the point of me focusing on condemning murder and other serious crimes in a "FILESHARING" forum?? Of course I&#39;m going to point out how sharing copyrighted songs is wrong--it&#39;s what practically all of you are doing&#33;

But keep debating. I want to hear more arguments. So far, I haven&#39;t seen a single one that comes close to proving me wrong. The type of people I&#39;ve seen are

1. The non-copyrighted song downloader- you&#39;re legal...you&#39;re also cool.
2. The justification person- you love to find reasons why you&#39;re actions aren&#39;t THAT illegal. For example: "The RIAA is dumb, so what I&#39;m doing is okay&#33;" or "Murdering people is worse than filesharing, so I&#39;m not really doing anything that bad&#33;"...you people are confused, and you don&#39;t have very good logic.
3. The insult people- you guys love to insult the RIAA, figures in authority, and me. You&#39;re just stupid, not to mention funny to read. Do you think I really care about your opinion? I put out facts, and you make yourself look stupid by offering up a completely subjective opinion. Keep smoking pot, but stay out of this forum while you&#39;re doing it.
3rd gen noob
11-26-2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Adster@25 November 2003 - 12:34
mp2s??
mp2&#39;s are mpeg-2&#39;s
svcd video files :)
Sparkle1984
11-26-2003, 10:22 PM
Do you think I really care about your opinion? I put out facts, and you make yourself look stupid by offering up a completely subjective opinion. Keep smoking pot, but stay out of this forum while you&#39;re doing it.

Hey, this is our forum (of filesharers)&#33;&#33; And now you are barging in here, trying to start a flame-war, insulting people and acting as if you have a right to say that other people should stay out&#33;&#33; :lol:

If you don&#39;t care about our (filesharers) opinions, then why did you come in here in the first place?&#33;&#33; Just to try to annoy people?&#33;&#33; Are you a filesharer, by the way?

And also, faggot is not a very nice word, so I don&#39;t know why you used it; it could be construed as homophobic.

You put out facts??&#33;&#33; You don&#39;t even know what a fact is&#33;&#33; You started rambling on saying that everyone on here should move to North Korea, but hardly anyone over there has internet access anyway&#33;&#33; So what a pointless comment that was&#33;&#33; :lol:

Capitalism and current world trade laws have caused untold suffering to many thousands of people, particularly in the developing world. It has caused wars, environmental damage and human exploitation (multinational corporations operate sweatshop factories where employees are only paid a very low amount of wages, causing extreme poverty).

OK, the other extreme that they have in North Korea is not good either.

I would rather have a world order that is based on fair trade not free trade, sharing, peace, equality, respect for humanity and the environment. :)
Arm
11-26-2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by legal_person@26 November 2003 - 21:42
First, screwing over the artists...how the heck are you helping the artists in any way? Sure, you might be helping them get known, but you&#39;re also distributing their music for free and that doesn&#39;t profit them at all. Second, pumping the mainstream media full of crappy artists...from what I see, those "crappy artists" in the mainstream are making the most money and getting the most popularity. They have countless more fans than the non-mainstream bands, so obviously they aren&#39;t as crappy as you say they are. And as for price fixing...well, it is their industry, and like I said earlier, we do practice capitalism in this country (thank goodness for that) so they can set whatever price they see fit.
:ph34r: Hey just because their popular doesn&#39;t mean they are any good. Nor does it mean they will be popular forever. Sure mainstreams got alot of good artists but alot of them are pretty damn bad too. I don&#39;t give a fuck how much money they make. They can be the richest peope in the world but money does not buy respect or make your music any better.

Yeah it&#39;s their industry that means they can fuck over whoever they see fit. Gotta make a million dollars it doesn&#39;t matter who dies.
UKMan
11-26-2003, 10:38 PM
Time to stop this thread me thinks ;)
The insults are not worthy and not justified <_<
NikkiD
11-26-2003, 10:53 PM
I&#39;m closing this thread, but first, I&#39;d like to make a few simple points:

1. Not everyone lives in the US and falls under their laws of what is legal/illegal. For some of us, the RIAA holds no threat and so your assumptions of illegality are totally bogus.

2. You have clearly started this as nothing more than a way to start arguments between yourself and people on this board. If you&#39;re not interested in filesharing, then why exactly are you here?

I&#39;m closing this post, as it&#39;s become nothing more than flaming and insulting thanks to one person who has nothing better to do with his/her time.