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hobbes
11-23-2003, 10:09 PM
Why do you think we derive such pleasure from music from an animal perpspective. What is the purpose, does it relate to survival?

I have my own views but I am interested in seeing what people think before I bias anyone with my thoughts.

nice dreams

the_faceman
11-23-2003, 10:16 PM
i was watching a program the other day and it was showing how different music activates different part of the brain, and that classical music showed the highest activity in a lot of cases.

the program was also saying that during your formative years, it helps to keep the brain active to stimulate and assist learning, a use it or lose it sort of thing. there were also opinions given during the program stating that this did not have a huge effect on intelligence.

but anyways, i hear pigs also love music.

maybe it relates back to a more primitive time when humans (or our ancestors) communicated in a more melodic form that we do today.

bigboab
11-23-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by the_faceman@23 November 2003 - 22:16
ibut anyways, i hear pigs also love music.


Have you been in the cells that often. :lol:

hobbes
11-23-2003, 10:51 PM
Could this all relate to the "mating call" that birds exhibit?

bigboab
11-23-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by hobbes@23 November 2003 - 22:51
Could this all relate to the "mating call" that birds exhibit?
Considering we were supposed to originally evolve from the sea. I doubt that.

internet.news
11-23-2003, 10:53 PM
when making music - i played piano some time ago - you can express your thoughts - some of my friends are playing in a band.

when listening as well you can identify with some feelings - me personally when I listen to some music i imagine a story, of e.g. being free and traveling freely around the world ;) nice....

hobbes
11-23-2003, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by bigboab+23 November 2003 - 23:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigboab @ 23 November 2003 - 23:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@23 November 2003 - 22:51
Could this all relate to the "mating call" that birds exhibit?
Considering we were supposed to originally evolve from the sea. I doubt that. [/b][/quote]
Birds came from seas as well, we (human/birds) share a common ancestor.

J'Pol
11-23-2003, 11:02 PM
Music was the first form of language and is the highest of the arts. At the same time it is the most basic.

Any creature which can make a sound can make music. Whether it be by their own mouth, or vibrating another part of their body, or just hitting things together. These sounds can be associated with emotional responses - fear, love, anger, joy etc.

Music forms an integral part of our being, it produces emotional responses beyond our control. We vibrate in harmony with the universe. We are hard wired to the music.

Close your eyes, sit back in a comfortable chair, dim the lights and listen to Bach on a decent radiogram. You are at one with the universe.

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
11-23-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@23 November 2003 - 18:02
Close your eyes, sit back in a comfortable chair, dim the lights and listen to Bach on a decent radiogram. You are at one with the universe.
:D The same with Iron Maiden. :D

J'Pol
11-23-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by hobbes+23 November 2003 - 23:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 23 November 2003 - 23:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by bigboab@23 November 2003 - 23:53
<!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@23 November 2003 - 22:51
Could this all relate to the "mating call" that birds exhibit?
Considering we were supposed to originally evolve from the sea. I doubt that.
Birds came from seas as well, we (human/birds) share a common ancestor. [/b][/quote]
Really, I am shocked.

I had thought birds and mammals had a different lineage. Is this incorrect.

Weren&#39;t the birds and the dinosaurs of the same ilk. Scales, feathers, eggs that sort of thing. Whereas we were more of the hair, children born live variety.

As ever one lives and learns.

DarthInsinuate
11-23-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by hobbes@23 November 2003 - 22:51
Could this all relate to the "mating call" that birds exhibit?
hmm, possibly - i do fancy that Jenny from the block and Jason Timberlake, to a lesser extent

hobbes
11-23-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+24 November 2003 - 00:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol &#064; 24 November 2003 - 00:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by hobbes@23 November 2003 - 23:55

Originally posted by bigboab@23 November 2003 - 23:53
<!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@23 November 2003 - 22:51
Could this all relate to the "mating call" that birds exhibit?
Considering we were supposed to originally evolve from the sea. I doubt that.
Birds came from seas as well, we (human/birds) share a common ancestor.
Really, I am shocked.

I had thought birds and mammals had a different lineage. Is this incorrect.

Weren&#39;t the birds and the dinosaurs of the same ilk. Scales, feathers, eggs that sort of thing. Whereas we were more of the hair, children born live variety.

As ever one lives and learns.[/b][/quote]
Yes, we must look to amphibians as the ancestor which gave spawn to the lines we call "mammals" and "birds". This relationship began long before dinosaurs.

bigboab
11-23-2003, 11:19 PM
When I try and sit back, all I can hear is my back, not Bach. :lol:

Maybe that is because I slipped a disc on the stereo. :lol:

J'Pol
11-23-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN+24 November 2003 - 00:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FuNkY CaPrIcOrN @ 24 November 2003 - 00:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@23 November 2003 - 18:02
Close your eyes, sit back in a comfortable chair, dim the lights and listen to Bach on a decent radiogram. You are at one with the universe.
:D The same with Iron Maiden. :D [/b][/quote]
:D :lol: ;)

I couldn&#39;t agree more.

One man&#39;s Maiden is another man&#39;s Bach.

J'Pol
11-23-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by hobbes+24 November 2003 - 00:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 24 November 2003 - 00:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@24 November 2003 - 00:05

Originally posted by hobbes@23 November 2003 - 23:55

Originally posted by bigboab@23 November 2003 - 23:53
<!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@23 November 2003 - 22:51
Could this all relate to the "mating call" that birds exhibit?
Considering we were supposed to originally evolve from the sea. I doubt that.
Birds came from seas as well, we (human/birds) share a common ancestor.
Really, I am shocked.

I had thought birds and mammals had a different lineage. Is this incorrect.

Weren&#39;t the birds and the dinosaurs of the same ilk. Scales, feathers, eggs that sort of thing. Whereas we were more of the hair, children born live variety.

As ever one lives and learns.
Yes, we must look to amphibians as the ancestor which gave spawn to the lines we call "mammals" and "birds". This relationship began long before dinosaurs. [/b][/quote]
Isn&#39;t it a direction of tail movement thing.

Fish / amphibians = sideways.

Aquatic mammals = up and down.

Or are these creatures which left the seas and then returned, forsaking their hind legs for a tail, hence the motion.

Which would be fish - reptile - mammal - aquatic mammal.

J'Pol
11-23-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by bigboab@24 November 2003 - 00:19
When I try and sit back, all I can hear is my back, not Bach. :lol:

Maybe that is because I slipped a disc on the stereo. :lol:
Boab

Mrs bigboad has authorised me to put her out of her misery. I am to kill you at the earliest possible opportunity.

I take it you are with apple, as am I. The lottery winnings being wisely invested in your case.

hobbes
11-23-2003, 11:30 PM
Feathers are modified fish scales, as is human skin. We all come from the sea. I am unsure of the role of sound in the water, but I notice that birds use the mating call, not looks or muscularity, to define the genetic integrity of the mate. If you can&#39;t sing the song, you can can&#39;t bang the bong.

bigboab
11-23-2003, 11:30 PM
Yes I am with apple. I got her some of that sparkly stuff just to keep her quiet for a night. :lol:

J'Pol
11-23-2003, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by hobbes@24 November 2003 - 00:30
Feathers are modified fish scales, as is human skin. We all come from the sea. I am unsure of the role of sound in the water, but I notice that birds use the mating call, not looks or muscularity, to define the genetic integrity of the mate. If you can&#39;t sing the song, you can can&#39;t the bong.
Have you shuffled your can and can&#39;t there old bean.

nice dreams

J'Pol
11-23-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by bigboab@24 November 2003 - 00:30
Yes I am with apple. I got her some of that sparkly stuff just to keep her quiet for a night. :lol:
What a lovely Yuletide scene.

bigboab is drinking cider, whilst Mrs bigboad is playing with tinsel.

Deck the halls and so forth.

bigboab
11-23-2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+23 November 2003 - 23:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 23 November 2003 - 23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-bigboab@24 November 2003 - 00:30
Yes I am with apple. I got her some of that sparkly stuff just to keep her quiet for a night. :lol:
What a lovely Yuletide scene.

bigboab is drinking cider, whilst Mrs bigboad is playing with tinsel.

Deck the halls and so forth. [/b][/quote]
Tinsel nothing. When I mean sparkly, I am talking electricity. :lol:

bigboab
11-23-2003, 11:46 PM
I dont know what your server is like tonight JP. But my one is frustrating to say the least. It is taking about two minutes to refresh. Most times it just crashes. I&#39;m afraid it is going to be an early night. :(

hobbes
11-23-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+24 November 2003 - 00:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 24 November 2003 - 00:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@24 November 2003 - 00:30
Feathers are modified fish scales, as is human skin.&nbsp; We all come from the sea.&nbsp; I am unsure of the role of sound in the water, but I notice that birds use the mating call, not looks or muscularity, to define the genetic integrity of the mate.&nbsp; If you can&#39;t sing the song, you can can&#39;t the bong.
Have you shuffled your can and can&#39;t there old bean.

nice dreams [/b][/quote]
Apple is evil, as you know


Should have read "can&#39;t bang the bong"