Do you use FST as your primary NZB source for TV shows?

[DngrMs]

If you don't understand "primary" in this context it means "first" or "main" or "most often" or something similar in your language.

[piercerseth]

A good portion of the ones who do can't be assed to check the forums, let alone click a button that isn't "Create .NZB"

[shaina]

A good portion of the ones who do can't be assed to check the forums, let alone click a button that isn't "Create .NZB"

I used to "BE ONE"
Never looked at a forum, came for my 10 by saying "HELLO"
Now over 500 posts and having fun:whistling (well... sometimes:O)

Oh the real question?? No!! I do not use FST as my main source of NZB's, but the forums are fun:yup::clap:

[DngrMs]

A good portion of the ones who do can't be assed to check the forums, let alone click a button that isn't "Create .NZB"

I understand this, and it's a pity because I think there's the essence of a community here.

Nevertheless, I'm interested in the statistical results as some NZB's get 150+ hits in the first few hours and I wondered how much of that spilled over to the forums. Hence the poll.

[piercerseth]

I didn't mean to knock you or the poll.

Just thinking out loud.


I understand this, and it's a pity because I think there's the essence of a community here.

Could be worse, we could be /r/usenet (save for a handful of posters that place is a shit show).

[DngrMs]

I didn't mean to knock you or the poll.

Never perceived it as such but thanks nevertheless.


... /r/usenet ...

Ugh :sick:

[shaina]

A good portion of the ones who do can't be assed to check the forums, let alone click a button that isn't "Create .NZB"

I understand this, and it's a pity because I think there's the essence of a community here.

Nevertheless, I'm interested in the statistical results as some NZB's get 150+ hits in the first few hours and I wondered how much of that spilled over to the forums. Hence the poll.

You are kidding right??
Out of 600 members (and I know there is more)... You are lucky if 20 people, that post in a forum (on the lounge side since I started posting maybe you see 10 and that is not consistent ).
And if there is a stat that shows more , that would be new people posting to get there 10 posts to increase there downloads. Once that is done you don't see any of them on a consistent basis.

And if you make a pole....And you add , It will not count as a post to increase the 10 needed, I be amazed if anyone would vote.
Just my opinion as a new poster, and it is not intended to insult anyone , it is just my observation.

[DngrMs]

Never fear, I'm not relying on these statistics to submit a UN funding application, if it ends up being a failed poll so be it.

Nevertheless, if the stats are to be believed then it's already interesting (70/20).

I find the "spotted" content here (TV shows) far more valuable than the dragnet Newznab type sites. If an NZB I want isn't posted I tend to put it up and the daily 'list' of collections seems pretty comprehensive.

Maybe I can follow up with another perfectly infallible poll "Can you find the TV content you want on FST (Y/N)?"

[shaina]

Never fear, I'm not relying on these statistics to submit a UN funding application, if it ends up being a failed poll so be it.

Nevertheless, if the stats are to be believed then it's already interesting (70/20).

I find the "spotted" content here (TV shows) far more valuable than the dragnet Newznab type sites. If an NZB I want isn't posted I tend to put it up and the daily 'list' of collections seems pretty comprehensive.

Maybe I can follow up with another perfectly infallible poll "Can you find the TV content you want on FST (Y/N)?"

If your poll is "Can you find the TV content you want on FST (Y/N)"??It is a loaded question , I would say yes , but you would also have to add
"Do You See It Posted Here First (Y/N)"?? Then my answer is NO. But it does get here later than sooner in most cases.
Don't get me wrong DngrMs , this site is ok , but it is not close to some private sites or a few public ones.
If you want the ones I am speaking of just PM me and I will list them for you.
I wouldn't knock this site because I do like the forums here , but I say again this is not my primary site for NZB. I download over a terabyte a month on a regular basis , look at my downloads from this site , that will paint a picture (already the NZB is Uploaded somewhere else and I have downloaded even before the NZB is here in most cases , not all) , even with my restrictions on how many downloads I have never used close to max out the limit here.
Sometimes I ask myself what this sites purpose is ??
Is it a talk site first or a NZB etc. site first ??
Some people have mixed feelings on the priority here so I really don't know what is.....

Shay

[Beck38]

How can a (essentially) free site compete with those running usenet (along with their 'private' websites and usually encrypted postings) as a business?

Can't.

They and their ilk can't be bothered to do the absolute minimum of obfuscation to hide their postings, allowing any and all to retrieve them with the nano-watt of brain power it takes to unlock the keys. But that's not the reason why, but making money is.

At the end of the day, they will eventually fade away, as folks will figure out that commercial services are easier and cheaper in the long run.

[Gribley]

... they will eventually fade away, as folks will figure out that commercial services are easier and cheaper in the long run.

Doomed I tell yer, we're all doomed ;)

However point made well, this site is held up by the few who can be bothered to keep it so for no commercial reason just for 'fun'*....

* nothing better to do

[shaina]

How can a (essentially) free site compete with those running usenet (along with their 'private' websites and usually encrypted postings) as a business?

Can't.

They and their ilk can't be bothered to do the absolute minimum of obfuscation to hide their postings, allowing any and all to retrieve them with the nano-watt of brain power it takes to unlock the keys. But that's not the reason why, but making money is.

At the end of the day, they will eventually fade away, as folks will figure out that commercial services are easier and cheaper in the long run.

Ok Beck38

Lets try to simplify this explanation...

Are you talking about paid NZB sites are always better ??
Well I have a few that are completely free and retention goes back to day one (there is some fakes but they are usually marked pretty quick) and unlimited downloads

Private web sites are encrypted ??
Are you saying that the paid or invited NZB sites are uploading all there own files on Usenet servers or binary groups for there members to access only ?? Well how are they doing that if that is what you mean ?? I always assumed that the files are uploaded (first not re uploads) by the person closest to the source who gets the original files (or leaked) , and return may change the name (gibberish names) add a NFO (hopefully) and it is found by searching the Raw search way or loading headers, and then producing the NZB to point at the files.

Is that Wrong??

You also talk about Hiding there Postings here

Are you saying that once you search for this site on google or whatever link , and the first page that pops up is the NZB file list ??
Well if that is what you are saying... You think it should have a splash page like all private sites before you put in your sign in and password ??
I think you do have a valid point , Free or Paid , I don't think it will deter people to join here and it is not wide open if you do come by this site by accident. If that is what you are saying GOOD POINT.

You talk about running it as a business...

I am not a veteran here like some , but my use in this site is chatting in the forums , it is not my main source of Usenet downloads. And the big problem here is I don't know really what the sites main purpose is ?? I mean it is called File Sharing TALK not File Sharing NZB so what is the real main priority of this site ?? (No disrespect to the owners , to me it is a great forum talk site That is my main purpose here). Even if we make suggestions it is up to the owners how they run there site , I can honestly say I don't pay there bills , so If I make a suggestion and they like it great , but if they don't approve?? it now becomes my choice on what I want to do , to me that is cut and dry.

The biggest problem in any site private or public... none are perfect , or at least I haven't found one.

Do I think the posters here do a good job?? It is fine for the odd one I do pick up here , but my private NZB sites are quicker in most cases , and my public one I use is about the same upload time as here(the ones they choose to upload here) , just at that the other public site I go to , the selection is much larger , meaning a lot more alternate Usenet binary groups to choose from , and way better retention.(and as long as your Usenet provider can pick up the files)

I have followed a few of your post and you have mentioned that you do Mega Uploads and Downloads (with very few takedowns). Well I don't see it here , especially compared to private sites , And you must be doing it somewhere else , So I am assuming this is not your main site either.
What is your main purpose here ??(No disrespect is intended)

Now you talk about Commercial Services....
I have no idea what you are talking about ??
Could you explain that a little better so I may understand

Thanks

[IdolEyes787]

And the big problem here is I don't know really what the sites main purpose is ?? I mean it is called File Sharing TALK not File Sharing NZB so what is the real main priority of this site ?? (No disrespect to the owners ,.

Both the best and the worst thing about FST is that isn't anyone in charge who actually gives a fuck*.
That means that you're perfectly welcome to drink yourself into unconsciousness in the middle of the street, just don't expect an ambulance to come and pick you up when you get run over by a truck.

*See I just cursed and yet no hypocrite censured me for supposedly corrupting the morals of some 12 year old who just spent the last two hours non-stop watching porn and videos of the Islamic State beheading people .

Anyway sorry to intrude and I now return you to Beck38.Someone so dry that he is now by himself considered the single biggest threat to the Amazonian rain forest.

[shaina]

And the big problem here is I don't know really what the sites main purpose is ?? I mean it is called File Sharing TALK not File Sharing NZB so what is the real main priority of this site ?? (No disrespect to the owners ,.

Both the best and the worst thing about FST is that isn't anyone in charge who actually gives a fuck*.
That means that you're perfectly welcome to drink yourself into unconsciousness in the middle of the street, just don't expect an ambulance to come and pick you up when you get run over by a truck.

*See I just cursed and yet no hypocrite censured me for supposedly corrupting the morals of some 12 year old who just spent the last two hours non-stop watching porn and videos of the Islamic State beheading people .

Anyway sorry to intrude and I now return you to Beck38.Someone so dry that he is now by himself considered the single biggest threat to the Amazonian rain forest.

What upsets me now...
You are a Retired Staff Member ..I would assume that if there was a fellow FTA member drunk in the middle of the street , and the truck is barreling right at him , you would sacrifice yourself to save him. That is what I would call loyalty :noes:

As for the second analogy you are slightly wrong...

If it is a 12 year old Jewish boy (which I assume you were referring too) ... He is not allowed to play with his Pee Pee until he becomes a man and that is the age of 13 (you know a Bar Mitzvah the testis drop and pee pee is good to go) so the only option is to spend more time watching ISIS or ISIL beheading innocent people , and being disappointed that you cant play with your Schmeckle :yup:

And Beck38 I don't have any comments at this time or I plead the fifth , either one would be applicable or acceptable :rolleyes:

[DngrMs]

Thread traction, must contribute.


...But it does get here later than sooner in most cases.

Noted and accepted. Speed is not a priority for me but I understand why it is for some[what ignorant or desperate] people.


Don't get me wrong DngrMs , this site is ok , but it is not close to some private sites or a few public ones ... Sometimes I ask myself what this sites purpose is ??

Agreed and that's a very good question! Maybe I should start a poll?


... [says some stuff here] ...

Not sure I agree or disagree, what did you say?


However point made well, this site is held up by the few who can be bothered to keep it so for no commercial reason just for 'fun'*....

* nothing better to do

Props to them as well, perhaps that approach actually serves a greater good?


... TL;DR ...

But you might have said some smart things, couldn't tell.


... [REDACTED BUT REALLY, WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT IDOLEYES787 SAYS? HE HAS ****ARRIVED IN THIS THREAD**** BOW BITCHES

I'm so fuckin' wet !@$@!@!~!!@$#EVD#


What upsets me now...

This is your problem... you've let FST upset you. :(


And Beck38 I don't have any comments at this time or I plead the fifth , either one would be applicable or acceptable :rolleyes:

Astute. Very astute.

[shaina]

Thread traction, must contribute.
Noted and accepted. Speed is not a priority for me but I understand why it is for some[what ignorant or desperate] people.

Don't get me wrong DngrMs , this site is ok , but it is not close to some private sites or a few public ones ... Sometimes I ask myself what this sites purpose is ??
Agreed and that's a very good question! Maybe I should start a poll?

... [says some stuff here] ...
Not sure I agree or disagree, what did you say?

However point made well, this site is held up by the few who can be bothered to keep it so for no commercial reason just for 'fun'*....
* nothing better to do
Props to them as well, perhaps that approach actually serves a greater good?

... TL;DR ...
But you might have said some smart things, couldn't tell.

... [REDACTED BUT REALLY, WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT IDOLEYES787 SAYS? HE HAS ****ARRIVED IN THIS THREAD**** BOW BITCHES
I'm so fuckin' wet !@$@!@!~!!@$#EVD#

What upsets me now...
This is your problem... you've let FST upset you. :(

And Beck38 I don't have any comments at this time or I plead the fifth , either one would be applicable or acceptable :rolleyes:
Astute. Very astute.

DngrMs..

It was very nice how your Critiquing skills were used to break down all the thought that went into those posts.(Idol Beck38, Myself)

In my case...

Speed and Other tv programs that are not even posted on this site are important to me because I prefer to watch the shows on the same day they come out , not 2-3 days later when they are posted here(and that does happen).And if I did want to watch them while they are broadcasted , I do pay for cable (a lot of people this is there main source of viewing movies and shows , they have no other options), I just prefer to watch the shows without commercials.
So if that is not a priority to you ?? Great !! I am glade for you... To most people who join private NZB sites , I would think that would be one of the major points they are there. And I hope we both agree this is not a private site ?? So what happens here is not my major concern , being , it is not my main NZB source.

It is also nice to see your concern on how people feel....With your effort of doing these polls...

Even Know the results mean "THE SQUARE ROOT OF COCK" , and are a waste of time.......(you would get the hint on the participation I would think:idunno:)

All of this is Banter , Suggestions , and Complaints , it is whatever the owners decide which way they want to site to go ,it is there decisions.
And it is not my concern what they do until it affects my uses for this site.


Again I really don't know what the sites main priority is ?? DO YOU?????

What are you trying to accomplish ???

If the things you want changed are not accomplished ?? Are you leaving??

I am not leaving because my purpose and needs I use this site for are met. I added my 2 cents for comparisons to other NZB sites.

Is this really a NZB site??? Or a bonus for the posters????

Figure that out DngrMs and you could win a "Cuppie Doll"

159961

[IdolEyes787]

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... [REDACTED BUT REALLY, WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT IDOLEYES787 SAYS? HE HAS ****ARRIVED IN THIS THREAD**** BOW BITCHES

I'm so fuckin' wet !@$@!@!~!!@$#EVD#



Are sure you're wet and it isn't simply drool from all those Doritos you've been eating?

[piercerseth]

Is this really a NZB site??? Or a bonus for the posters????

It's the latter as I see it. I post what I want when I feel like it.

If a user donates with some expectation of consistency, thoroughness, or speed, shame on them.

For the record, I will gladly bet you money (no Canadian) I'm faster than 99% of sites when I choose to be. It's a game.

[shaina]

Is this really a NZB site??? Or a bonus for the posters????

It's the latter as I see it. I post what I want when I feel like it.

If a user donates with some expectation of consistency, thoroughness, or speed, shame on them.

For the record, I will gladly bet you money (no Canadian) I'm faster than 99% of sites when I choose to be. It's a game.

No arguments there , and I am not taking that Bet , but Remember.... You are not the only game in town here... Unless your employers are willing to give you a raise:whistling
If you want me to help with negotiations let me know ... I will fly in for ya:yup:

[Beck38]

I've lost any track of thinking along the lines of this thread (i.e., "Do you use FST as your primary NZB source for TV shows?")

Except that exactly what 'TV shows' are you talking about? Occasionally, when I miss something off a subscription service I'll find it here, sometimes weeks afterwards, so it hasn't been 'whacked' in all that time.

If it's some scripted show that's decent, I'll simply do what 99.999% of folks do, wait until it becomes available on BluRay and process it then (first for myself, then post it for whoever).

If you're talking about over the air 'free' TV shows, I don't quite get the reasoning, I'm afraid, as most of those are so poor as to remind one of 60's fare like 'Gilligan's Island' or 'Brady Bunch'. Both of which are, I might mention, completely available by subscription service at extremely low cost (as will current 'free' TV shows in the same category).

If one has bought into the 'cord cutter' mantra, and refuses to pay anything more than the cost of drive space for these 'shows', then I guess paying $x for one of these private groups access makes warm fuzzies for some folks. Go for it, but I'll bet again that simply paying a little bit for the subscription services (one way or the other) probably is cheaper and easier in the long run, rather than paying for the expanded internet access and all the other 'group' fees and machine costs that add up.

But whatever warms your cockles.

And no, I don't post the nzb's of what I upload here on FST; it's all quite obvious to anyone who does simple searches with the publicly available search sites, or by simply watching the raw headers on selected newsgroups.

[DngrMs]

DngrMs..

Figure that out DngrMs and you could win a "Cuppie Doll"

http://filesharingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=159961

Don't get me wrong, I respect your posts and this one ^ especially made me smile many times. Not least because "Cuppie Doll" rhymes with "Troll". ;)

I really, really want to achieve nothing more here. The poll was all I was interested in, the dialogue that came after was inconsequential, however entertaining. I think you might have assumed I was taking this quite seriously and I can assure you, I was not.

Piece.


...words...

Except that exactly what 'TV shows' are you talking about?

...words...

Instructions in first post.


Are sure you're wet and it isn't simply drool from all those Doritos you've been eating?

There was blood so perhaps you're write?

[piercerseth]

There was blood so perhaps you're write?

Don't rely on Beck38 for medical advice. See a goddamn doctor.

[IdolEyes787]

Are sure you're wet and it isn't simply drool from all those Doritos you've been eating?

There was blood so perhaps you're write?

Yes but then isn't intentionally misspelling stuff to demonstrate your wit sort of like letting yourself be beat up just so you prove that you to everyone that you can take a punch?




If it's some scripted show that's decent, I'll simply do what 99.999% of folks do, wait until it becomes available on BluRay and process it then (first for myself, then post it for whoever).


Are you including Africa in your statistics because I'm pretty sure greater than .001% of starving Zambians are fine with a DVDrip.

Granted there are fewer entitled egotists there.:ermm:

[DngrMs]

Yes but then isn't intentionally misspelling stuff to demonstrate your wit sort of like letting yourself be beat up just so you prove that you to everyone that you can take a punch?

A little bit, but not quite! ;)

[megabyteme]

Don't rely on Beck38 for medical advice.

Fix'd that. :D

[shaina]

Don't rely on Beck38

Fix'd that. :D

Improved.....


I really, really want to achieve nothing more here. The poll was all I was interested in, the dialogue that came after was inconsequential

:frusty::stars:

[Beck38]

...words...

Except that exactly what 'TV shows' are you talking about?

...words...

Instructions in first post.


Well, not exactly, could mean anything that comes across 'the tube' even though most western folks don't have a 'tube' anymore.

BTW, the number of folks in Africa (just about any country even adding in South Africa and Egypt) equal about the .0001% of folks either on the internet and/or on Usenet.

The landscape has changed for Usenet at least 3-4 times in the last 30+ years, adapt or die. If folks want to go down a certain road, and it works for them, fine. I just in a lot of cases don't see how the effort equals the payoff, either for those trying to 'make it pay' or those doing the payoffs. Maybe I'm wrong and they are rolling in the bucks, and those doing the paying simply don't see the easier (and cheaper) way. Okie Dokie.

To each their own.

[jedirule]

I come here first for everything, especially TV shows. Well organised and easy on the eye to view, the layout I mean. Usually, one of the quickest to appear too.

[shaina]

Well, not exactly, could mean anything that comes across 'the tube' even though most western folks don't have a 'tube' anymore.
The landscape has changed for Usenet at least 3-4 times in the last 30+ years, adapt or die. If folks want to go down a certain road, and it works for them, fine. I just in a lot of cases don't see how the effort equals the payoff, either for those trying to 'make it pay' or those doing the payoffs. Maybe I'm wrong and they are rolling in the bucks, and those doing the paying simply don't see the easier (and cheaper) way. Okie Dokie.
To each their own.

Beck38

First off you don't get anything for free if you want the luxuries of the 21 century , there is always a cost even to get that something you think you are getting free , you're paying ......

-The internet itself costs to access media
-Cable or satellite cost to access media
-Even free advertised HD local channels have a cost(equipment cost to have access)
You say the landscape of Usenet is changing (or is changing) , sure I agree with you , it is getting pressure put on it by outside media companies for pirated and copyright laws , and the up loaders keep finding ways to stealth or code files etc etc to counter act that. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't .
But by your so called numbers and your upload stats that you do personally they never get taken down , so why isn't there a lot more intelligent guys like you and just follow your lead (maybe because it is 1 part truth and 12 parts bullshit ?? I don't really know??)
Now I have been doing this since the dinosaur ages of Usenet , and I may not talk or understand the technical way you speak of UseNet , but now I have just become lazy and let other guys search the Binary groups and post the NZB's , and so far it is working for myself , and if I am really desperate I occasionally grab a few things I want or my Wife and kids off a torrent site.

Here is my setup I Pay for my convenience ......

-2 Usenet NZB private sites (Get me all the movies and shows I want from Newest or latest to Oldies but Goodies with no commercials and the formats I choose, going back 3-5+ years from time to time)
-2 Usenet providers (one north America , one off shore , usually gets around all the takedowns and other crap in retention or damaged files on the binary group)
-HD Cable (pay for 2nd tier for local news and some local broadcast that are not on the net or binary groups , rarely watch tv shows or movies because I hate watching commercials that disrupt the flow of tv programs or shows , and to get there commercial free viewing or on demand you have to move up a few tiers to access it )
-High Speed DSL (obviously needed to access Usenet properly and for the kids when they are home , and any lookups on things or this forum for posting , and of course emails)
-Netflix (kids use at university dorms , plus some of the exclusive shows they produce that they now have available , but they are never up to date on the latest shows available on local broadcasting networks on cable or satellite)

So instead of your Drug or Alcohol Induced Chatter or you would call Technical Perspective .......:idunno:

Explain where you think the future is going ??

And use my examples where you think savings and convince can be made to have the same luxuries I have ?? And instead of the Bullshit or Gibberish... Please give some examples , I really be interested in seeing what you have to say (I am Jewish.. so I am not shy to save money!!:yup:).

Okie Dokie !!!

Thanks

[Beck38]

You are right in that the 'first cost' is the internet access, unless you are 'leeching wifi' off an unknowing neighbor.

And yes, even if you are grabbing the material 'free' off the air (OTA) there are associated costs (machine, encoder, software) in processing such.

And then into subscription plans (disc rental, cable, satellite, even these pay sites); which is why folks tend to think back to the days when most folks actually 'shared'.

I'm really kind of surprised that my simple (but apparently very effective) obfuscation/encryption technique, developed some 2 1/2 years ago, has lasted this long. Then again, a lot of totally 'in the clear' material has never been touched, either. It's really hit or miss, as long as you avoid pro-wrestling, porn, and the occasional low-rent (to me) 'tv' fare.

Not that I haven't 'collected' quite a few such series (that may be 'low rent' to others) but I did so through mostly 'conventional' (disc rental) means.

I think a lot of folks simply post as they feel like it, and if they get 'targeted', then it's up to luck (or lack of it), and figure that enough folks were quick enough 'on the draw' to make the posting worthwhile. But I remember when most Usenet services barely had a hundred plus days of retention, and everyone seemed to be dreaming of the day when it would be (virtually) unlimited.

Well, that day came in Aug08 or thereabouts, and I still see stuff I posted way back then still there (yes, I saved all the nzb's). So I think that the effort (and money) put into processing and posting is more important than ever, simply figuring that things are going to 'disappear' no matter what is giving up before you start, and in too many cases is driven by other agendas.

[Insyder]

Most of my tv shows are downloaded automatically with NewsLeechers SuperLeech. Some tv shows are posted with encrypted names in a.b.etc, for those I manually download and open .srr files to see what those tv shows are and download them if they are the shows I watch. A bit of manual work, but I don't mind, it's usually only 3-5 srr files that I have to check per day.

I actually check eztv torrent site from time to time to see if there are any new tv shows that I'm interested in. There's way too many tv shows posted to newsgroups, that's why I avoid nzb sites to find my tv shows.

[Gribley]

I actually check eztv torrent site from time to time to see if there are any new tv shows that I'm interested in. There's way too many tv shows posted to newsgroups, that's why I avoid nzb sites to find my tv shows.

You may want to check out this one too for insight http://www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/

[iLOVENZB]

I actually check eztv torrent site from time to time to see if there are any new tv shows that I'm interested in. There's way too many tv shows posted to newsgroups, that's why I avoid nzb sites to find my tv shows.

You may want to check out this one too for insight http://www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/

I've been previously using Trakt (http://trakt.tv/calendars/shows/2015-05-27). Use it to track movies/tv and keep an eye on schedules.

[pentiumpc]

Since I am still stuck at 2 grabs, I use FST check what show is available and grab the nzb off other indexer.