Copy Windows Xp

[The_Hunter]

I have windows xp and want to make a copy can i just do a copy a cd in nero or wont this work properly as I tried to do it once before and it didn't copy all the files properly any help will help.

[muchspl2]

I use nero 99% of the time, but for copying 1to1 games/apps I use clonecd

[james_bond_rulez]

it's probably copy protected but it shouldn't be the case when it comes to microsoft os cds...

[konnie]

if you can, use alcohol 120% to create an iso of the xp cd. use the image making wizard option...or clone cd will work great too. then burn that iso to a cd with nero.

[Russo]

If its XP home , you wont be able to install it on another PC anyway

[electric_rob]

:D Have used clonecd and copy works fine every time.

[clocker]

Originally posted by Russo@24 November 2003 - 02:15
If its XP home , you wont be able to install it on another PC anyway
Really?

Why not?

[balamm]

Originally posted by clocker+24 November 2003 - 05:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 24 November 2003 - 05:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Russo@24 November 2003 - 02:15
If its XP home , you wont be able to install it on another PC anyway
Really?

Why not? [/b][/quote]
"Shiny new" syndrome again I think ;)

I was gonna ask too but I got busy eating a cookie instead :lol:

[james_bond_rulez]

i got some nice chocolate cookies and warm milk....

........ :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

[clocker]

Originally posted by balamm@24 November 2003 - 05:41


I was gonna ask too but I got busy eating a cookie instead :lol:
And did you bring enough for everybody?

C&#39;mon now B, share with the class.

[john54321]

If its a bootable version (full version of windows- not upgrade) it may not copy the boot record when using just windows to make a copy, so you should use clonecd to make an exact copy so the boot record is in tact or use nero to make a disk image and then burn the image.

[clocker]

This tutorial may help... (http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=157)

[Russo]

Originally posted by clocker+24 November 2003 - 12:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 24 November 2003 - 12:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Russo@24 November 2003 - 02:15
If its XP home , you wont be able to install it on another PC anyway
Really?

Why not? [/b][/quote]
The home version needs to be authenticated online. Billys way to stop piracy.

But the Pro version does not need that. you can install the Pro version on multiple PCs

[LTJBukem]

Originally posted by Russo+24 November 2003 - 18:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Russo &#064; 24 November 2003 - 18:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by clocker@24 November 2003 - 12:33
<!--QuoteBegin-Russo@24 November 2003 - 02:15
If its XP home , you wont be able to install it on another PC anyway
Really?

Why not?
The home version needs to be authenticated online. Billys way to stop piracy.

But the Pro version does not need that. you can install the Pro version on multiple PCs[/b][/quote]
There are ways around the activation process. ;)

Hmm...... Didn&#39;t somebody post (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=83002) an indirect link to an XP activation crack, only this weekend? (disclaimer:- i&#39;ve not tested this crack:P)

But sure, XP corp doesn&#39;t even need activation. If you have the means to acquire it, it&#39;s the best way to avoid the whole activation thingie.

:)

[DWk]

Originally posted by Russo@24 November 2003 - 12:47
The home version needs to be authenticated online. Billys way to stop piracy.

But the Pro version does not need that. you can install the Pro version on multiple PCs
sry still laughing...

[Russo]

Originally posted by DWk+24 November 2003 - 19:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DWk @ 24 November 2003 - 19:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Russo@24 November 2003 - 12:47
The home version needs to be authenticated online. Billys way to stop piracy.

But the Pro version does not need that. you can install the Pro version on multiple PCs
sry still laughing... [/b][/quote]
Read this while your laughing

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/mpafaq.asp

The best solution is to get XP Pro and get the service packs 1&2 from sharereactor

[Russo]

And its pointless to use a crack for Home because you wont be able to update anyway. you might as well get Pro

[LTJBukem]

Everybody knows about the activation process. Thing is though, it was cracked before XP was officially released. That&#39;s why DWk is laughing at you. :)

What&#39;s that about Service Pack 2? Do not install beta service packs, that is unless you really want to potentially compromise your systems stability and security.

And XP home cannot be updated unless it has been avtivated by micro&#036;oft? Sorry man, but you&#39;re talking rubbish.:(

:)

[Russo]

Where do you people get your info from. how do you think Microsoft determines if your Key lines up with your MAC address and hardware IDs. when you go to the update page MS reads your ID and determines if its registered yet. if its not registered you dont get your updates.

Why do you think the Service Packs are available as seperate releases underground on P2P netwroks. because thats the ONLY way to update a XP machine that is not registered by MS

You need to do some more research

[Russo]

Here are the hoops you have to jump through to update a pirated version of XP

http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dTyp...dId=350&dPage=2 (http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=guide&dId=350&dPage=2)

[balamm]

Stop It&#33;

Service packs are available via "the underground" because they either aren&#39;t official releases, they have been tampered with to create back doors and security flaws, they are no longer offered by MS, or someone decided to host a useless file.

My MAC addresses change when I want them to. Hourly if I decide there&#39;s a need.
It does not affect registration&#33;

An install CD is released with about 15 masters, each capable of using a set number of 5x5 keys. If for example there are 15 5x5 key combinations built into a released master, then potentially, according to you, only 225 computers may ever install XP home?
It doesn&#39;t work that way, sorry.
As long as you use a valid 5x5 key and use valid info in your registration, there are usually no problems.
When a 5x5 key is found to have been registered to a million machines, out of proportion to all other 5x5 keys, then that key will be investigated and possibly blacklisted. This is the reason that some master/5x5 combos are difficult to register.
Solution, edit WPA - reg done. This is the main step in most cracks. Some go on to disable communication of details to MS through the removal or modification of other reg keys.
It&#39;s an extremely simple process. Even with server side authentication, there are ways around it.
If they make it, someone somewhere can and will crack it.

[Russo]

Originally posted by balamm@24 November 2003 - 21:15
An install CD is released with about 15 masters, each capable of using a set number of 5x5 keys. If for example there are 15 5x5 key combinations built into a released master, then potentially, according to you, only 225 computers may ever install XP home?
It doesn&#39;t work that way, sorry.

Sources please.

I hope your not saying there are only 225 keys world wide for XP Home

[Russo]

Originally posted by balamm@24 November 2003 - 21:15
Even with server side authentication, there are ways around it.
If they make it, someone somewhere can and will crack it.
Please explain this one for me. i want to hear that.

And do so in the Games Folder so everyone can know how to connect to a multiplayer server that REQUIRES a serial authentication to connect.

[james_bond_rulez]

balamm u take that one i am tired of no0bs :lol:

[Johnny_B]

Originally posted by Russo@24 November 2003 - 20:11
when you go to the update page MS reads your ID and determines if its registered yet. if its not registered you dont get your updates.

Why do you think the Service Packs are available as seperate releases underground on P2P netwroks. because thats the ONLY way to update a XP machine that is not registered by MS

You need to do some more research
^^This doesn&#39;t make any sense.

Windows XP SP1 ships with a list of the two product IDs that are created by the pirated VLKs. To determine eligibility for the update, Windows XP SP1 compares the Windows XP product ID on the system to this list. The comparison and the list reside locally on the user&#39;s computer; no information is sent to Microsoft as part of this process. The Windows XP SP1 installation will fail on computers with the following product IDs:

XXXXX-640-0000356-23XXX
XXXXX-640-2001765-23XXX

SOURCE (http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/resources/vol/volkeys_winxpsp1.asp)

According to the above article, the list of pirated IDs ship with service packs and the comparison is made by the service pack during the installation and not remotely by Microsoft.
Therefore, downloading "underground" service packs is the same as downloading network installations of service packs directly from Microsoft (not the same as downloading through Windows Update).

Here it is:
SP1a Network Installation for Windows XP Home & Pro (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/servicepacks/sp1/sp1lang.asp)

However, the "underground" service packs you download, like balamm said, probably contain backdoors or may not be final releases.
They can also be older service packs that are no longer provided by Microsoft (like SP1 that included MS Virtual Java Machine which was then removed in SP1a).

Of course you can probably get the network installation from people who are sharing it.
But what&#39;s the point if you can get it directly from Microsoft? :blink:

[john54321]

Why don&#39;t people keep this simple rather than going on about some pointless crap.
:angry:

The simplest way to beat the activation system, whether you have XP Home or XP Pro (retail versions) is by using a keygen to give yourself an unique serial number.

If you do this you wont need to worry about Updates and service packs, because as far as microsoft are concerned you own a legit version.

If you have an OEM version you want to copy (for yourself or friend), then the best option is to activate by phoning microsoft to tell them you have upgraded your PC. This way you can have the same XP installed on 2 computers.

This is all the information you need. No need to waste your time searching for useless cracks or downloading files you can&#39;t trust and worrying if the next service pack will shutdown your OS.

The guy only asked for advice on copying his Windows XP

[muchspl2]

go directly to hell
do not pass go
and collect 1 STFU


running windows without security updates is reckless, and your comment is neck in neck with the most ignorant comment in this thread, and that says allot, so kudos to that :)

[john54321]

There needs to be clarification about the different versions of windows. There are five main versions - Home (retail), Pro (retail), Home (oem), Pro (oem) and Corporate (corp for short). Theres is also a media version, but we dont need to discuss that.

Both the retail versions need to be activated. The other three do not.

OEM versions will only work on the machines they are developed for (unless you use my phone activation method).

Coporate version does not need activation at all. Some people confuse this version for Pro, because they are exactly the same except that the Corp is pre-activated.

The Corp version is essentially XP Pro developed for large coporations with many PC&#39;s. Imagine the problems these companies would have if they had to activate all their computers individually.

With the Corp version you can use the same serial many times, on many of your machines without worrying about microsoft blocking your system.


Hope this clarifies things. :D

[balamm]

Originally posted by Russo@24 November 2003 - 14:27

Sources please.

I hope your not saying there are only 225 keys world wide for XP Home
There are probably less than 225 keys world wide. This was just an example. I would be surprised if there were more than 100 5x5 key sets for any MS release.

Microsoft released this fix for system admins after they blacklisted the keys Johnny_B mentioned. Why? Because many legitimate copies of the master that had used those stolen keys were in use around the world. Instead of replacing the operating system, an ominous or even impossible task in some cases, simply use another acceptable key that this master would recognize.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6270-5034890.html

Look hard enough and you&#39;ll find this posted on the MS site.

You want sources?
I paid for my education bud. You either pay me or you get your education the same way I did.
I&#39;ve been active in the development and testing of three MS operating systems now.
I&#39;ve played beta tester and consultant. I&#39;ve installed and run every OS Microsoft has released, and some they haven&#39;t released. I&#39;ve administered a windows 2000 advanced server installation for almost 2 years. I&#39;ve been invited to many Microsoft developer and programmer conferences.
I had Openwave shut down for almost a day after I discovered a back door into their corporate emails. My honesty landed me a developers account with them as well.
What do I know? I know shit compared to some people here.
You though, grossly over estimate yourself in this field.
Listen and learn. It&#39;s free.
All the sources you could ever need are right here Sources (http://google.com)
No, I won&#39;t tell you how to beat server side authentication.
Not because it&#39;s against some rule, but because I run a server. If you have the brains, you&#39;ll figure it out yourself.
You want to learn more about SSL, SSH, and Kerberos, try http://www.sans.org
Or sign up with MS as a developer or beta tester. You&#39;ll get access to the MS newsgroups, admin forums, product previews, etc., depending on your interests and experience.

Try telling your XP home story there though and they&#39;ll eat you alive&#33;

[Russo]

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/mpafaq.asp

Q. Is there rechecking of the activation done after initial activation? Is there any secret data transfer to Microsoft?

YES

A.The product does check itself from time to time to see if it is activated and if it is still on the same PC on which it was originally activated. At no time whatsoever is information transferred to Microsoft as a result of Product Activation except while the user is actually in the process of activating the product. There absolutely is no "secret" data transfer.

Q.How does Microsoft identify the computer&#39;s hardware?



A.Microsoft Product Activation detects the hardware configuration on which the product is being installed and creates hash values for that configuration. A hash is a value mathematically derived from another value - in this case hardware configuration values. Product Activation does not scan the customer&#39;s hard drive, detect any personal information, or determine the make, model or manufacturer of the PC or its components. Microsoft uses hash values out of respect for users&#39; privacy. A hash value cannot be backwards calculated to determine the original value. In addition, Microsoft only uses a portion of the original hash values. Together, these hash values become the complete hardware hash that is included in the installation ID.

Q.What about the Windows Update check of the product key? And also during activation the product key is now provided? How does Microsoft know whether a customer is using pirated or genuine product key in these instances? And what about privacy in these matters, as the check is occurring on the Microsoft end?

A.For Windows Update, the product key and product ID are verified by Windows Update. There is no link to the activation system. Once the product key and product ID are validated, they are discarded; neither the key nor the ID are maintained after the validation check.

For activation after SP1 has been installed, Microsoft uses the product key as part of the Installation ID to determine if it is legitimate. If it is not legitimate, the activation request is denied. In this case, the product key (along with the entire installation ID) is kept as part of the error record. Remember that no personally identifiable information is required to activate.


I have talked to a lot of people on the internet trying to update a pirated XP. and they cant do it through the MS update page

[kud]

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/myths.asp
Product Activation has already been cracked, or at least it will be cracked very
quickly, and therefore is of no anti-piracy benefit.

Actually, Product Activation has yet to be cracked. The so-called "crack" now being passed around the Internet contains a set of instructions for setting a registry key that disables activation. Microsoft made the existence of this registry key public to its technical beta testers back in early February telling them where it was and how to set it to disable activation, and included it as a testing tool.
Still, the intellectual property protection arena is a cat-and-mouse game. All intellectual property protection technologies will be cracked at some point—it&#39;s just a matter of time. The measure of success is not completely stopping software piracy, which is probably an unattainable goal. Success is more likely to be measured in increased awareness of the terms of the license agreement and increased license compliance

[balamm]

Again, it&#39;s quite simple. You need a copy of the original SP1, xpsp1_en_x86.exe .
NOT xpsp1a_en_x86.exe .

Then use regedit to alter the WPA/OOBE timer. Cut one pair of the binary data and close.
start/run> %systemroot%&#092;system32&#092;oobe&#092;msoobe.exe /a
>enter
Choose phone MS. (don&#39;t phone though) Choose change product key. Enter a legit key and click next. Close WPA and restart the pc. Go back to start/run and enter %systemroot%&#092;system32&#092;oobe&#092;msoobe.exe /a again. The WPA will come up and say "you are already registered".

Now install xpsp1_en_x86.exe and restart.
Done&#33; End of story&#33; Finito&#33;

[Russo]

Originally posted by balamm@25 November 2003 - 02:57
No, I won&#39;t tell you how to beat server side authentication.
Not because it&#39;s against some rule, but because I run a server. If you have the brains, you&#39;ll figure it out yourself.

Really. If you know how, then you would figure that our good buddies at DEViANCE and Fairlight etc.. or someone would have passed this info out to the gamers that want to play. ummm lets says FF or Anarchy Online or 30 other MMORPG.

I dont think you know how. i think your all talk. and i challenge you to post how to crack a FF server or a Dark Age of Camelot server.

Lets see if he can do it ;)

[kud]

h**p&#58;//file2.mydrivers.com/others/xpsp1_en_x86.EXE

[clocker]

Russo,
What are you arguing about?
I have personally used the method just described by Balamm several times and it not only works, but all of the PCs have , and continue to be able to, update direct from Windows Update Center.
This is not an opinion, it is a verifiable fact.
The people that you talked to screwed up the process somehow.
Which is really saying something, cause I&#39;m a gross nOOb and I pulled it off successfully the very first time.

[neevakee]

here is my answer to a lot of this. Yes you can copy it. It has no protection on the disk. I have done it and it works fine. Microsoft dosen&#39;t have protection on the cd for backup purposes. Also if you have installed the copy of windows a long time ago it will register it on a new computer. I installed a copy on one computer and then it crashed and went to computer hell, but a year later i installed it on a complely diffrent machine and i didn&#39;t get a problem. the only reson i owned a copy was I bought it before my kazaa days, but in any event i hope this helps. also if it dosen&#39;t have sp2 on it just use the windows xp keygen and that will solve your problem.

[balamm]

What you want now is not a way to beat server side authentication (activation) of a program, You want instructions to hack the server. Sorry, not going there.
You know very well these are entirely server based games. Operating systems and associated applications are installed locally and activated (legally activated) remotely and that is the subject here.

[Russo]

Someone removed the instructions before i could copy them, i know a PC i can try that on.

If it works i will publicly admit it.

[balamm]

:blink: Nobody removed anything.

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by Russo@25 November 2003 - 05:29
Someone removed the instructions before i could copy them, i know a PC i can try that on.

If it works i will publicly admit it.
http://members.cox.net/dodger1954/pics/what-are-you-smoking.gif

[Russo]

Yes i was wrong, i thought for sure i seen it on page two. and it was not there.. because..it was on page three. and No im not smoking anything. but maybe i should be :blink:

[boyzeee]

[I have talked to a lot of people on the internet trying to update a pirated XP. and they cant do it through the MS update page ] russo

russo, talk about dig your own grave&#33; I have installed cracked copies of xp pro and corp on over 40 pc&#39;s, most with there own unique key, they ALL update at microsoft with no problems what so ever&#33; where do you get information? you are yet another to fall into microsofts trap of bluffing its way through the "impossible to crack" xp saga, the version of xp that wont update with sp1 is the now infamous "devils own" corp. the key (pardon the pun) to getting over the wpa hurdle is simple, xpkey by the bluelist and keychange, both nifty bits of software, if you want a tutorial on how i do it go HERE (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=60541&hl=) coz i explained it way back. and its even easier now with a few different cracks out there ;)

[Russo]

Originally posted by boyzeee@25 November 2003 - 09:27
[I have talked to a lot of people on the internet trying to update a pirated XP. and they cant do it through the MS update page ] russo

russo, talk about dig your own grave&#33; I have installed cracked copies of xp pro and corp on over 40 pc&#39;s, most with there own unique key, they ALL update at microsoft with no problems what so ever&#33; where do you get information? you are yet another to fall into microsofts trap of bluffing its way through the "impossible to crack" xp saga,&nbsp; the version of xp that wont update with sp1 is the now infamous "devils own" corp.&nbsp; the key (pardon the pun) to getting over the wpa hurdle is simple,&nbsp; xpkey by the bluelist and keychange, both nifty bits of software, if you want a tutorial on how i do it go HERE (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=60541&hl=) coz i explained it way back.&nbsp; and its even easier now with a few different cracks out there ;)
Ok fine. as i said i have not tried to update pirated versions of XP. i read the NFO of the OS on sharereactor and people on other message boards.

The NFO i read stated you could not go directly to the MS page and directly download the service packs , in fact it warned against doing any windows updates such are messenger etc.. because MS is finding your illegal serial that way also. and that you have to do it through downloading the full service packs that are not hosted by microsoft. or by jumping through some other hoops as posted here Update XP (http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=guide&dId=350&dPage=2)


I never stated you could not update a pirated copy of XP home. i said (or implied)you could not do it by directly going straight to the MS update page and clicking update, which seems to be what you are saying you can do.
so the point i made was you might as well get Pro Corp.

And if this page HERE (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=60541&hl=)is supposed to prove your point.

"boyzeee"

"scenario 2.......... with win xp pro, home its a little easier, do same thing as above, install with key provided dont activate, run keygen, click activation and do it over the net, click "no i do not want to register with microsoft at this time" then you dont have to give any information and its anon, try and activate then when it says invaid key etc etc click the "change product key" button and put in one of the keys you have generated and try activating, keep on trying til you get one that works, i have been told it is better to shut down and restart and then try activating after each key change but ive never bothered. you can do all this over the phone, same thing as above but its just longer to do. there is a program called keychange that will do all the work for you to.

corp doesnt need activating but make your own key, dont use the ones on the net coz microsoft will shut you down when you install sp1.

i think ive covered it all...class dismissed"

"boyzeee"




as i said before it takes a little time but i have on a few occasions been lucky and the first key ive put in activates, but saying that it took about 20 different keys to activate office on my nephews pc, and thats why i said a minimal install (it only 40mb needed with office to activate) as its quick to install and uninstall. it not at all complicated if you really read it, just click a few buttons. ive seen people give advice about tweaking the registry and other nonsense, its just not needed. i am looking right now for a program that lets you change the office key without uninstalling it as ive heard there is a prog out there somewhere that will do it, i will post it as soon as ive got it "


Correct me if im wrong. you (boyzeee) are referring to installing a pirated version of XP, not updating it by going directly to the MS update page and clicking update.

[clocker]

Originally posted by Russo@25 November 2003 - 16:55



Correct me if im wrong. boyzeee is referring to installing a pirated version of XP, not updating it by going directly to the MS update page and clicking update.
I don&#39;t know what Boyzee is referring to.

I, on the other hand, am saying that yes you can, and yes, I regularly do, go directly to MS update, have them scan me for updates and then download directly from them.
This worked for SP1 and all subsequent critical updates.
My copy of XP Pro was installed using the exact method detailed by Balamm.

[balamm]

I don&#39;t know where you&#39;re going with this anymore. Your waffling could feed a starving nation.

I use a pirated VLK. Yes I do&#33; No keygen, No key changer.

I&#39;ve showed you how to set reg = done in the OOBE timer and WPA. Again, I use my pirated and blacklisted VLK. I just type it back in, same as I installed it. Or, copy the product ID from a previously authorized install. Then I install an early service pack 1 (downloaded from MS) .
After reboot, I now have a fully legal installation of XP, pro, corp, whatever you want to call it. Window update works fine.

Any way you look at it, all reg tips and software required to make this an authorized, legal install, were supplied by MS.
There&#39;s no cracking or unauthorized cheats involved.
Maybe, just maybe, I&#39;m taking advantage of a bug in their software and activation or licensing process. I don&#39;t know, but it was given to me by MS so who am I to argue?

Oh, I forgot to mention that I also recieve MS support for my now legal instal. You know those send error report messages you sometimes get when an application misbehaves? I get a tracking number immediately and a web link or phone number to use in the tracking process. In most cases, I get an email back within the hour which either provides the direct or indirect cause of the error, or a link to persue the problem with the software or hardware maker.

[Russo]

Originally posted by balamm@26 November 2003 - 00:19
I don&#39;t know where you&#39;re going with this anymore. Your waffling could feed a starving nation.


Where have i waffled?, show me my inconsistencies.

[clocker]

Russo, this is your first post in this thread...

If its XP home , you wont be able to install it on another PC anyway
Since then, you&#39;ve claimed that "you read" or "people have told you", etc., etc. why it&#39;s NOT possible to use Windows Update with a pirated copy of XP.

Admit it, you were wrong.

[Russo]

Originally posted by balamm@26 November 2003 - 00:19
.

I use a pirated VLK. Yes I do&#33; No keygen, No key changer.

I&#39;ve showed you how to set reg = done in the OOBE timer and WPA. Again, I use my pirated and blacklisted VLK. I just type it back in, same as I installed it. Or, copy the product ID from a previously authorized install. Then I install an early service pack 1 (downloaded from MS) .
After reboot, I now have a fully legal installation of XP, pro, corp, whatever you want to call it. Window update works fine.


So i guess what your saying is. that you do have to do some hoop jumping to get a pirated copy of XP updated... thanks for clarifying that balamm ;)

[LTJBukem]

Crikey&#33;&#33; :blink:

Is he still at it?? :lol:

But actually, wait..... He did say:-


Originally posted by Russo@ 25 November 2003 - 07:24
Yes i was wrong........ :lol:

[clocker]

Yeah, that 30-40 seconds it took to do the registry tweak almost convinced me to go down to Staples and spend &#036;250 for the real thing...

[Russo]

Originally posted by clocker@26 November 2003 - 00:31
Russo, this is your first post in this thread...

If its XP home , you wont be able to install it on another PC anyway
Since then, you&#39;ve claimed that "you read" or "people have told you", etc., etc. why it&#39;s NOT possible to use Windows Update with a pirated copy of XP.

Admit it, you were wrong.
True, but if you read all the posts in context (since i usually give short responses to every topic) you can see what the point was. most people dont give long dissertations to a topic

you can see my point was , the reason you "cant install home" on two PCs was because of the updating problems and reg fixes etc.. that most of you people are admitting you had to do to get a legit update

So why not just get Pro Corp

[LTJBukem]

Originally posted by Russo@24 November 2003 - 20:11
Where do you people get your info from. how do you think Microsoft determines if your Key lines up with your MAC address and hardware IDs. when you go to the update page MS reads your ID and determines if its registered yet. if its not registered you dont get your updates.

Why do you think the Service Packs are available as seperate releases underground on P2P netwroks. because thats the ONLY way to update a XP machine that is not registered by MS

You need to do some more research
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:)

[clocker]

Originally posted by Russo@25 November 2003 - 17:45


you can see my point was , the reason you "cant install home" on two PCs was because of the updating problems and reg fixes etc.. that most of you people are admitting you had to do to get a legit update

So why not just get Pro Corp
Russo,
I have been following this thread from it&#39;s inception and have read all the responses in context.

Had you merely said "get Corp and bypass the problems " from the get go, we wouldn&#39;t be having this little chat.
But, of course, you didn&#39;t.

Your Mr. Bojangles act is very good.

[internet.news]

interesting...

[balamm]

Originally posted by Russo@25 November 2003 - 17:45


you can see my point was , the reason you "cant install home" on two PCs was because of the updating problems and reg fixes etc.. that most of you people are admitting you had to do to get a legit update


:blink: MS themselves suggest this to people having problems with windows update. It&#39;s not some elite hacker trick, it&#39;s just as valid as any hotfix MS has ever released. Some people have taken it a step further and scripted it into a batch file but the fix is still authored by MS. :blink:

There are NO problems installing and updating. Period&#33;

Home, Pro, Corp, it works for all just the same.

[LTJBukem]

Originally posted by internet.news@26 November 2003 - 00:54
interesting...
I must say my friend, just how much i enjoy reading your posts. Whether intentionally or not, they nearly always make me laugh.

:)

[Russo]

As i said i got all my info form other people/boards/websites. you never once heard me i say i know these things from personal experiences.

And clearly the few people i have been talking to here are saying installing and updating Home is versy easy.

And if, from your downloading of "legit" updates, your serial gets banned. will you admit it in these forums

[clocker]

Originally posted by LTJBukem+25 November 2003 - 17:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LTJBukem @ 25 November 2003 - 17:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-internet.news@26 November 2003 - 00:54
interesting...
I must say my friend, just how much i enjoy reading your posts. Whether intentionally or not, they nearly always make me laugh.

:) [/b][/quote]
Oh indeed.

Really move the topic along, too.

[balamm]

Please inspect the URL on this link very carefully

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;EN-US;328874 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;328874)


See this part support.microsoft.com ?

They even provide the VBS &#33;

[clocker]

Originally posted by Russo@25 November 2003 - 18:04


And if, from your downloading of "legit" updates, your serial gets banned. will you admit it in these forums
You bet your ass I will.

But only if it actually happens to me, not something I read about on "other forums" or hear from informed sources.

[Russo]

Ok. This was the general idea i had from reading NFOs of SP1 & SP2 and talking to other people who claim to have "personal experiences".

That you could install XP Pro Corp and update it untill you turn blue because there was no serial that could be recognized (either initially or eventually) that was banned.

But with XP Home. if you tried to update a banned serial it would cut off have way in the download. and if it was not YET banned, that eventually by updating certain windows components, messenger, outlook etc.., they would find out you have a bogus number and bann it.

I know they can read your number everytime you update. but with Pro Corp i assume there is no number to read.

OK , end of argument :x. i will take into consideration what people with personal experience claim.

[balamm]

Originally posted by Russo@25 November 2003 - 18:27
but with Pro Corp i assume there is no number to read.


No, there is still a number. The activation process is disabled though. If you have a "bad" VLK, you will still need to do the steps to change the "product key" before it will allow updates.

[konnie]

balaam "paid" for his education ? musta been cheap &#33; anyone who uses "ominous" instead of the correct-in-context &#39;onerous&#39; is a moron...balaam is a egotist with an inferiority complex...a person with a little ego and. most likely. no life. suggest getting one

[balamm]

I wondered when you would show up. You&#39;re late. And bitter. I can only wonder what made you what you are. Probably sexual inadequacy :lol:

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by konnie@26 November 2003 - 03:06
balaam "paid" for his education ? musta been cheap &#33; anyone who uses "ominous" instead of the correct-in-context &#39;onerous&#39; is a moron...balaam is a egotist with an inferiority complex...a person with a little ego and. most likely. no life. suggest getting one
http://members.cox.net/xcuse/r2stfu.jpg

[clocker]

Gee Connie, many educators also advocate the correct use of caps and punctuation.
You may have been sick that day.

People in glass houses...

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by konnie@26 November 2003 - 02:06
balaam "paid" for his education ? musta been cheap &#33; anyone who uses "ominous" instead of the correct-in-context &#39;onerous&#39; is a moron...balaam is a egotist with an inferiority complex...a person with a little ego and. most likely. no life. suggest getting one
wow dude you just dissed the wrong guy.... <_<