Should online piracy be legalized?

[renhoek93]

Do you guys think the file sharing of music movies games & more should be legal? leave you're thoughts below.

[IdolEyes787]

I'm thinking about posting a question on whether or not you like hockey on the NHL website.

[renhoek93]

i'm thinking about posting a question on whether or not you like hockey on the nhl website.

lol.

[J00t]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as piracy, is in fact, unauthorized copying, or as I've recently taken to calling it, unauthorized sharing. Piracy is not the act of obtaining an unauthorized copy of a copyrighted work, but rather robbery or criminal violence at sea.
Many computer users make unauthorized copies every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the act which is widely performed today is often called piracy, and many of the people who do it are not aware that it is basically copying, and not stealing.
There really is a piracy, and some people are doing it, but it is just robbery at sea. Piracy is an act of theft: an action at sea in which goods are forcefully transferred from one ship to another. Piracy is important to be aware of, but unrelated to unauthorized copying; it can only function at sea. Piracy is normally not used in combination with unauthorized copying: the two acts are basically separate. All the so-called piracy is really unauthorized copying.

[IdolEyes787]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as piracy, is in fact, unauthorized copying, or as I've recently taken to calling it, unauthorized sharing. Piracy is not the act of obtaining an unauthorized copy of a copyrighted work, but rather robbery or criminal violence at sea.
Many computer users make unauthorized copies every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the act which is widely performed today is often called piracy, and many of the people who do it are not aware that it is basically copying, and not stealing.
There really is a piracy, and some people are doing it, but it is just robbery at sea. Piracy is an act of theft: an action at sea in which goods are forcefully transferred from one ship to another. Piracy is important to be aware of, but unrelated to unauthorized copying; it can only function at sea. Piracy is normally not used in combination with unauthorized copying: the two acts are basically separate. All the so-called piracy is really unauthorized copying.

When you say "you" don't you really mean some other guy you and several others have copied and pasted it off of.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=I%27d+just+like+to+interject+for+a+moment.+What+you%27re+referring+to+as+piracy%2C+is+in+fact%2C+unauthorized+copying%2C+or+as+I%27ve+recently+taken+to+calling+it%2C+unauthorized+sharing.+Piracy+is+not+the+act+of+obtaining+an+unauthorized+copy+of+a+copyrighted+work%2C+but+rather+robbery+or+criminal+violence+at+sea.+Many+computer+users+make+unauthorized+copies+every+day%2C+without+realizing+it.+Through+a+peculiar+turn+of+events%2C+the+act+which+is+widely+performed+today+is+often+called+piracy%2C+and+many+of+the+people+who+do+it+are+not+aware+that+it+is+basically+copying%2C+and+not+stealing.&oq=I%27d+just+like+to+interject+for+a+moment.+What+you%27re+referring+to+as+piracy%2C+is+in+fact%2C+unauthorized+copying%2C+or+as+I%27ve+recently+taken+to+calling+it%2C+unauthorized+sharing.+Piracy+is+not+the+act+of+obtaining+an+unauthorized+copy+of+a+copyrighted+work%2C+but+rather+robbery+or+criminal+violence+at+sea.+Many+computer+users+make+unauthorized+copies+every+day%2C+without+realizing+it.+Through+a+peculiar+turn+of+events%2C+the+act+which+is+widely+performed+today+is+often+called+piracy%2C+and+many+of+the+people+who+do+it+are+not+aware+that+it+is+basically+copying%2C+and+not+stealing.&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

I believe in some circles they call that theft.

I merely took someone's car for a drive without authorization ,officer.Don't call it theft.:ermm:

[megabyteme]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as piracy, is in fact, unauthorized copying, or as I've recently taken to calling it, unauthorized sharing. Piracy is not the act of obtaining an unauthorized copy of a copyrighted work, but rather robbery or criminal violence at sea.
Many computer users make unauthorized copies every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the act which is widely performed today is often called piracy, and many of the people who do it are not aware that it is basically copying, and not stealing.
There really is a piracy, and some people are doing it, but it is just robbery at sea. Piracy is an act of theft: an action at sea in which goods are forcefully transferred from one ship to another. Piracy is important to be aware of, but unrelated to unauthorized copying; it can only function at sea. Piracy is normally not used in combination with unauthorized copying: the two acts are basically separate. All the so-called piracy is really unauthorized copying.

When you say "you" don't you really mean some other guy you and several others have copied and pasted it off of.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=I%27d+just+like+to+interject+for+a+moment.+What+you%27re+referring+to+as+piracy%2C+is+in+fact%2C+unauthorized+copying%2C+or+as+I%27ve+recently+taken+to+calling+it%2C+unauthorized+sharing.+Piracy+is+not+the+act+of+obtaining+an+unauthorized+copy+of+a+copyrighted+work%2C+but+rather+robbery+or+criminal+violence+at+sea.+Many+computer+users+make+unauthorized+copies+every+day%2C+without+realizing+it.+Through+a+peculiar+turn+of+events%2C+the+act+which+is+widely+performed+today+is+often+called+piracy%2C+and+many+of+the+people+who+do+it+are+not+aware+that+it+is+basically+copying%2C+and+not+stealing.&oq=I%27d+just+like+to+interject+for+a+moment.+What+you%27re+referring+to+as+piracy%2C+is+in+fact%2C+unauthorized+copying%2C+or+as+I%27ve+recently+taken+to+calling+it%2C+unauthorized+sharing.+Piracy+is+not+the+act+of+obtaining+an+unauthorized+copy+of+a+copyrighted+work%2C+but+rather+robbery+or+criminal+violence+at+sea.+Many+computer+users+make+unauthorized+copies+every+day%2C+without+realizing+it.+Through+a+peculiar+turn+of+events%2C+the+act+which+is+widely+performed+today+is+often+called+piracy%2C+and+many+of+the+people+who+do+it+are+not+aware+that+it+is+basically+copying%2C+and+not+stealing.&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

I believe in some circles they call that theft.

I merely took someone's car for a drive without authorization ,officer.Don't call it theft.:ermm:


He's just not into content creation, jeesh. :no:

[Funkin']

Yes, definitely. As well as heroin.

In fact I wish the US was like Mexico, a pharmacy on every corner where you just walk into, point at whatever the hell you want, and the person behind the counter gives you as much of those pretty little pills as you please.

Wait, I forgot the original question. Pharmacies that are like grocery stores in the US is consuming my thoughts now...

[dion09529]

Downloading or uploading copyrighted material for which you don't have permission to download or market is illegal and punishable by a fine or imprisonment everywhere.
The difference is that Germany and France are more "creative" and educate the people better and there are several companies that monitor public trackers such as piratebay and if they find your IP they send letters to your ISP.

Nevertheless, it's legal to download torrents as long what you're downloading is legal, ie shareware or open source.

[megabyteme]

It gets VERY gray-- more so than the Industries would like you to think about (and merely keep paying), when you start to consider portability and time-shifting. If I am a subscriber to HBO should I be able to download HBO content over torrents? What if the content is available earlier than my local area has it offered on that channel?

Are my actions wrong if I similarly download content I have already purchased on DVD, but now is available in higher definition? What if I own a HD version, but want to watch a low-res version on my phone/tablet? How about content that I have legal access to through Amazon or Netflix- can I download any of those shows via torrents? How about a situation where Netflix offered the show last month, but I missed it and now want to watch it?

Same goes for music subscription services. Most everything is available on Spotify. If I give them $10 a month am I OK to download whatever the fuck I want musicwise from torrent sites?

Books? How about I own a paper copy, but would prefer to read on my tablet? Shouldn't I be able to lend a digital copy to a friend if I own a hardcopy?

I realize not all of these situations are always valid, but I am making the case that Content Control and Copyright are a ridiculous mess that consumers should not have to even ponder. If we are not profiting from our sharing, I say FUCK the Industries. If they want our money, they need to make systems that are more open to real-world use that does not punish their customer base. Netflix offers a vast library of shows for $8 per month. I'd pay the Industries $25 per month to just let me watch their shit without being freaks about it. Take that number and multiply it times the 100 Million households in the US alone, and there is more than enough money to 'support the artists'.

[toddkim]

Hollywood and other movie industries will get angry to you.

[renhoek93]

Downloading or uploading copyrighted material for which you don't have permission to download or market is illegal and punishable by a fine or imprisonment everywhere.
The difference is that Germany and France are more "creative" and educate the people better and there are several companies that monitor public trackers such as piratebay and if they find your IP they send letters to your ISP.

Nevertheless, it's legal to download torrents as long what you're downloading is legal, ie shareware or open source.

Wow really?? i did not know that thanks (sarcasm).


Hollywood and other movie industries will get angry to you.

Yeah maybe but there a bunch of big baby faggots who need to grow up & learn to adapt to the change people will share no matter what.

[IdolEyes787]

They're.
I sort of lost your point after that and faggot thing.

[usersname]

It never ceases to amaze me, how many kids/teens think it's there God given right to download Copyrighted Material for free and expect it to be fully legal!

@renhoek93 - I think you may be more at home over at Torrenfreak, you'll find plenty of people such as yourself fighting against the oppressive regime that is the Music/Movie Industry. <sarcasm>

[Alien5]

Piracy is evil.

like putting your finger in a dyke is going to solve it.

most of the web is a haven for pirates.

[mjmacky]

It never ceases to amaze me, how many kids/teens think it's there God given right to download Copyrighted Material for free and expect it to be fully legal!

@renhoek93 - I think you may be more at home over at Torrenfreak, you'll find plenty of people such as yourself fighting against the oppressive regime that is the Music/Movie Industry. <sarcasm>
There exists a valid and conscientious objection to the restrictive practices of media production companies. However, intelligent and conscientious objectors are in short supply, so accepting the company of entitled brats is more an act of prudent acquiescence if the goal is to stick it to The Man, The Men, and even the bitches.

[IdolEyes787]

So what you're saying is that as usual my choices are between evil and stupid?

[mjmacky]

So what you're saying is that as usual my choices are between evil and stupid?
Like you ever doubted that as the truth. Now, get whimsical and make your choice.

[IdolEyes787]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEzgc_ne60

Another video you'll never watch even though it has this fantastic sexy Japanese anime thing about three quarters of the way through.:smilie4:

Btw this is my reply to the thread topic even though it makes no sense in that "piracy" by definition can never be legal.If it were then they'd need to call it something else like "obeying the Law" and then no one under 20 would want to do it anyway.

[renhoek93]

It never ceases to amaze me, how many kids/teens think it's there God given right to download Copyrighted Material for free and expect it to be fully legal!

@renhoek93 - I think you may be more at home over at Torrenfreak, you'll find plenty of people such as yourself fighting against the oppressive regime that is the Music/Movie Industry. <sarcasm>

Well i read those Torrentfreak articles all the time so i know what is happening i try to keep up with the news an all & well i am no teen nor kid however i do believe downloading movies music games & so on is not a crime & it should be legalized i see nothing wrong with it & really in reality when you download something there is no sale to be had cause most people wouldn't buy it anyway & here the difference is theft is when i walk into a Wal-Mart or Target go look for the newest movie on DVD or Blu-Ray pick it up & sneak it into my coat & walk out with it without paying for it that is real theft downloading or sharing a digital copy with a friend or a few people over the internet is not theft its sharing & copying & i don't see anything wrong with it i am a activist & in my opinion the internet & information in general should not be paid for & should be a right internet access & access to information should be a right in the US. not a privilege it already is a right in Finland & i tip my hat to them for that.

[mjmacky]

Quick note: periods and ampersands are not interchangeable.

[mjmacky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEzgc_ne60

Another video you'll never watch even though it has this fantastic sexy Japanese anime thing about three quarters of the way through.:smilie4:

Btw this is my reply to the thread topic even though it makes no sense in that "piracy" by definition can never be legal.If it were then they'd need to call it something else like "obeying the Law" and then no one under 20 would want to do it anyway.
I don't need to watch the video since I know Rush lyrics by heart.

I don't really have them memorized, but I get the gist of them.

Except YYZ, I don't understand those lyrics at all.

[shaina]

Except YYZ, I don't understand those lyrics at all.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I can tell you.... If you are flying in a plane and your luggage has a tag on it reading YYZ you will need your passport to get it back:huh: