Bogus Files

[jackc]

Hello ppl,

It is really amazing how many bogus files exist in Kazaa. I have tried twice to download Matrix Revolutions, and both times the videos were totally different than what they were supposed to be (the first was "Minority Report", and the second was a movie I had never heard of before and I cannot recall anyway). In the past I have bumped into similar occasions of D/Ling a movie and getting a porn film instead. I have nothing against porn films, but frankly, when I want one, then I can simply D/L it myself, and so I should not be tricked by geting one when I think I get something else! B)

Since videos are measured in hundreds of megabytes, getting a wrong file is quite frustrating after a very long time that you have waited for its D/L. I know that there exists the K-Sig utilty that could help here, but unfortunately one has to be lucky enough to find the hash shared in a reasonable speed (something not always common). The only other solution I have found as far is to preview the video when it has started D/Ling, and kill it in case it is not what it was supposed to be.

I don't know if this problem exists because people mistakenly name their files (in which case I would ask them to be more careful), or because they like to play nasty games with rest of us (in which case I prefer not to comment)... :angry:

Anyhow, I guess that if we wanted everything to be perfect we would simply go and buy the video (or music, or software, or...). We like it that way, even if we have to pay a small price! :)

jackc

[UKMan]

I suggest you use the "avi preview" thats included. You can view partial downloads etc.

Peace
UKMan

[jackc]

Right. As I said, previewing the file is the only thing that works 100%.

But even the use of AVI Preview still cannot stop me from nagging about the bogus files, can it? <_<

[CoolMac]

Originally posted by jackc@24 November 2003 - 17:57
Hello ppl,

It is really amazing how many bogus files exist in Kazaa. I have tried twice to download Matrix Revolutions, and both times the videos were totally different than what they were supposed to be (the first was "Minority Report", and the second was a movie I had never heard of before and I cannot recall anyway). In the past I have bumped into similar occasions of D/Ling a movie and getting a porn film instead. I have nothing against porn films, but frankly, when I want one, then I can simply D/L it myself, and so I should not be tricked by geting one when I think I get something else&#33; B)

Since videos are measured in hundreds of megabytes, getting a wrong file is quite frustrating after a very long time that you have waited for its D/L. I know that there exists the K-Sig utilty that could help here, but unfortunately one has to be lucky enough to find the hash shared in a reasonable speed (something not always common). The only other solution I have found as far is to preview the video when it has started D/Ling, and kill it in case it is not what it was supposed to be.

I don&#39;t know if this problem exists because people mistakenly name their files (in which case I would ask them to be more careful), or because they like to play nasty games with rest of us (in which case I prefer not to comment)... :angry:

Anyhow, I guess that if we wanted everything to be perfect we would simply go and buy the video (or music, or software, or...). We like it that way, even if we have to pay a small price&#33; :)

jackc
have you tried filtering bogus files on searches?

[CoolMac]

Originally posted by jackc@24 November 2003 - 17:57
Hello ppl,

It is really amazing how many bogus files exist in Kazaa. I have tried twice to download Matrix Revolutions, and both times the videos were totally different than what they were supposed to be (the first was "Minority Report", and the second was a movie I had never heard of before and I cannot recall anyway). In the past I have bumped into similar occasions of D/Ling a movie and getting a porn film instead. I have nothing against porn films, but frankly, when I want one, then I can simply D/L it myself, and so I should not be tricked by geting one when I think I get something else&#33;&nbsp; B)

Since videos are measured in hundreds of megabytes, getting a wrong file is quite frustrating after a very long time that you have waited for its D/L. I know that there exists the K-Sig utilty that could help here, but unfortunately one has to be lucky enough to find the hash shared in a reasonable speed (something not always common). The only other solution I have found as far is to preview the video when it has started D/Ling, and kill it in case it is not what it was supposed to be.

I don&#39;t know if this problem exists because people mistakenly name their files (in which case I would ask them to be more careful), or because they like to play nasty games with rest of us (in which case I prefer not to comment)... :angry:

Anyhow, I guess that if we wanted everything to be perfect we would simply go and buy the video (or music, or software, or...). We like it that way, even if we have to pay a small price&#33; :)

jackc
have you tried filtering bogus files on searches?
and looking 4 the filename, description, title and artist

[jackc]

To tell u the truth I am not that specific in my searches. That might help, actually...

[Icebound]

have u tried anything besides k-lite???
seriously, u couldn&#39;t pay me to try to d/l a new movie with k-lite
talk about frustration :blink:

[jackc]

So what is the best for D/Ling movies? And how does it work?

[Icebound]

bt is the best for new and real popular movies, irc is a close second
for the old, and hard to find k-lite might be ur only choice :(

[jackc]

I have heard about this Bittorent from many ppl here. Can u pls tell me what is it exactly? Is it a P2P network like FastTrack, or is it something different? And if it is, what is the best/most popular client app available? (Like K-Lite is for FastTrack).

This Bittorent is good only for movies? I am asking this because K-Lite has been very satisfactory for me in general. My only problem until now has been the D/L of Matrix Revolutions which I am still seeking. When I requested the hash in the relevant forum, I was again advised to use BT.

Well, the questions were many, so thx in advance for your answers... :)

[Sparkle1984]

Originally posted by jackc@25 November 2003 - 09:22
I have heard about this Bittorent from many ppl here. Can u pls tell me what is it exactly? Is it a P2P network like FastTrack, or is it something different? And if it is, what is the best/most popular client app available? (Like K-Lite is for FastTrack).

This Bittorent is good only for movies? I am asking this because K-Lite has been very satisfactory for me in general. My only problem until now has been the D/L of Matrix Revolutions which I am still seeking. When I requested the hash in the relevant forum, I was again advised to use BT.

Well, the questions were many, so thx in advance for your answers... :)
If you want to learn about bit torrent, there&#39;s a beginner&#39;s tutorial HERE (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=54389) ;)

[jackc]

Thanks. But my other question hasn&#39;t been answered yet: Why use BT when K-Lite does the job? Is it better for movies, or what?

After all, all you ppl are also Kazaa users since you use this forum&#33; :P

[Tasty]

Originally posted by jackc@25 November 2003 - 18:01
Thanks. But my other question hasn&#39;t been answered yet: Why use BT when K-Lite does the job? Is it better for movies, or what?

After all, all you ppl are also Kazaa users since you use this forum&#33; :P
I personally feel that neither is better than the other. While with bittorrent you can feel safer knowing that what you are downloading is what it says it is, there could be few if any seeders spreading the full file, or many leechers using all the available bandwith if the movie is hot. But what if the movie has been out for a few weeks? the seeders of the movie will probably have moved on to the next movie of the moment, thereby making finding the movie you want difficult.

But Kazaa will have a larger selection at any given moment, it&#39;s just that not all files are named correctly. As long as you use common sense, you shouldn&#39;t really have to many problems. Plus it has the benifit of AVI preview, which as far as i know, you can&#39;t preview bittorrent files, but i could be wrong. Happened once before, and will probably happen again.

Another thing to consider, is that Bittorrent seems to be a hotbed of copyright infringemnet right now, as ISP&#39;s such as Comcast have been stepping up against it.

[jackc]

Well, the way Tasty put it, makes me feel that I&#39;ll stick to Kazaa...

[Switeck]

Originally posted by Tasty@25 November 2003 - 13:11
Another thing to consider, is that Bittorrent seems to be a hotbed of copyright infringemnet right now, as ISP&#39;s such as Comcast have been stepping up against it.
Comcast has merely been TARGETED by MPAA and RIAA for users running BitTorrent on it -- it is the users doing the copyright infringement. It is NOT Comcast itself that&#39;s stepping up efforts against the users but rather &#39;outside forces&#39;.

BitTorrent works by revealing many/most/all of the ips of everyone trying to get or have already gotten the single file (referred to as a torrent) that&#39;s being shared. This way, almost everyone can share the file (or file parts) until everyone who wants the file gets the file OR it becomes unshared by everyone. It makes for a handy list for ANTI copyright infringement groups such as RIAA/MPAA/BSA&#39;s hired goons (OverPeer, Patriot Media, Media Defender, BayTSP, etc) to use as &#39;evidence&#39; -- they email that ip list (plus approximate times of occurance) to various ISPs demanding immediate release of private information concerning user names, locations, age, members of the household, and possibly any other information they deem &#39;relavant&#39;.

And thanks to DMCA (in the USA anyway...), ISPs are FORCED TO COMPLY. No search warrent or judge is needed. And if RIAA/MPAA/BSA somehow miscopied the ips or times, they could be gaining this information about innocent people which they proceed to threaten, sue, and/or silence.

I and others are ATTEMPTING to find out who and where these &#39;monitoring bots&#39; are. If we block their ip addresses and enough others do the same, we can (in theory) defeat their efforts.

[internet.news]

yep, sadly true.

If I found any malicious virus, my norton always put it into quarantine&#33;

If search for Imesh you got many search result of Files with Name
"Imesh", but only 300KB or 400KB... If you are looking for a file,
also look on its size ;)