cracks - not worth it

[spaceinator]

i used to play around with all of the cracked and stolen software. at the end of the day though, its not worth it. instead of being beholden to the software company, you're beholden to the hackers/crackers/packagers. do you think their intentions are any more 'noble' than the software companies trying to make a buck?

just my $.02. i found that theres an open source alternative to almost everything. a lot of the time, the open source version can be even better.

[anon]

I also prefer free software whenever possible, but sometimes there isn't really a choice. For instance, Sandboxie has no free alternative that I know of; VirtualBox isn't nearly as good as VMware for my needs; VNC is so much slower than Radmin under the same network conditions. Photoshop is another common example of proprietary software that 1. has no libre or even commercial alternatives that are on par with it, and 2. is extremely expensive, making cracks the only way for hobbyists and amateurs that can't afford a license.

Sometimes it's just a matter of habit, though. In my case, Total Commander and Winamp have very good free software alternatives, but I've been using them for over a decade and don't want to relearn file management or media playback just because Stallman would approve :smilie4:

[killer23d]

If you must rely on the software to make a living, by all means pay for it.

Otherwise with many software (except Adobe), the prices have definitely come down and make them more affordable.

[van69]

Not into getting hack.

[MacGyverSG1]

I have tried a lot of cracked software since 1996. Never had any problems. Don't play around with it much these days. Maybe things have changed today.

[ninjanuity]

Depends... keygens? Fire them up in a throwaway VM to see if they're the real deal.

[tjsoundguy]

I stopped playing in the cracks/hacks pool, probably 5 or 6 years ago. I agree that a lot of the prices are lower now.

[niplips]

agree... cracks seem to be a lot more hassle these days.

[shaina]

agree... cracks seem to be a lot more hassle these days.

Except for Genuine Windows 7 :)

[bramor]

I do agree that there are open source/free programs that are 'good enough' for use cases. I use LibreOffice instead of MS Office because my word processor/spreadsheet needs are mostly personal. For me there are some applications where only a commercial application will suffice - mostly audio and video production. I do pay for the programs I use on a regular basis but sometimes the demos don't give me enough time to properly evaluate and learn if the program will suit my needs. That's where cracks come in handy: Extended demos. If I like the program I'll end up buying it but if it's only something used occasionally then a single version usually suffices and I'm not chasing every single X.0.1.24 update.

[anon]

Except for Genuine Windows 7 :)

I'm so glad I don't have to bother with activators, KMSPico and all that shit. I'd still prefer being able to use a volume key like on XP, but the rules of the game have changed :(

[shaina]

Except for Genuine Windows 7 :)

I'm so glad I don't have to bother with activators, KMSPico and all that shit. I'd still prefer being able to use a volume key like on XP, but the rules of the game have changed :(

Are you not using Windows 7?? Are you telling me you paid for a legit copy:unsure: I have a bunch of Vista keys :lol:

daz activator :happy:

[anon]

Sorry for the confusion. I use DAZ Loader too, but I don't consider it an activator in the traditional sense, even though it essentially does the same thing. For me, an activator is stuff like the Norton cracks of the early 2000s which (ab)used the phone call registration system, AntiWPA (installed a logon hook that dummied out license checks on XP), or KMSPico (which runs a fake license server locally and tells Windows "everything's okay" every X days).

DAZ installs a boot loader that dupes Windows into thinking the computer came preinstalled with the version and edition you're currently using, thus immediately making it "genuine software", without altering any system files.

[shaina]

DAZ installs a boot loader that dupes Windows into thinking the computer came preinstalled with the version and edition you're currently using, thus immediately making it "genuine software", without altering any system files.

I get your point , the same with win-zip and a few other programs i use, that don't have expiry updates you have to do, but we are still not laying out any doe for the software either;)

Now the real question?? What Daz does to the operating system, does it slow down the start-up? or how it runs?? vs a paid license version??

I just call it irony that people want an antivirus program/protection but they are not willing to pay for a licence version:idunno:
That is something i just wouldn't trust...

[Gribley]

Photoshop is another common example of proprietary software that 1. has no libre or even commercial alternatives that are on par with it, and 2. is extremely expensive, making cracks the only way for hobbyists and amateurs that can't afford a license.


Not sure Paintshop Pro ain`t half bad.... and there is that dll crack for Photoshop which works fine.

There is nothing more satisfying than a one byte NOP patch to make things whole..... just a shame it is a bit of a lost art, I couldn`t come even close to breaking a virtualised environment but there are still those out there with the skills and I for one am impressed
Shay if you need a valid Ultimate lic for Win7 then I have one I can share.

[shaina]

Shay if you need a valid Ultimate lic for Win7 then I have one I can share.

Thanks Gribley for the offer buddy, i am not sure what the advantage would be for me to go from Windows 7 Pro to Ultimate?? And is there going to be a speed/efficient difference?? The same if you use valid lic or Daz??
If you tell me there is an advantage to change i would test it out:), and again thanks for the offer buddy......

[Gribley]

You get nothing worth a note. But it is a valid corp code and saves you the hassle of a KMS server. I`ll PM you the code

[shaina]

You get nothing worth a note. But it is a valid corp code and saves you the hassle of a KMS server. I`ll PM you the code

Not sure if Daz and KMS work the same way Gribley?? The way Anon try to explain, they seem to be completely different. Tank you very much for the valid Key buddy, what i am going to do when i have more time is fool around and streamline one of my slower laptops (a small 11' one), and only really use it to surf the net....

Thank you very much again buddy....

[Caballero]

DAZ installs a boot loader that dupes Windows into thinking the computer came preinstalled with the version and edition you're currently using, thus immediately making it "genuine software", without altering any system files.

...and of course allowing for a flawless "legit" Windows 10 Pro upgrade if one was so inclined. ;)

[shaina]

DAZ installs a boot loader that dupes Windows into thinking the computer came preinstalled with the version and edition you're currently using, thus immediately making it "genuine software", without altering any system files.

...and of course allowing for a flawless "legit" Windows 10 Pro upgrade if one was so inclined. ;)


What i like to know is what is the benefit to really do that anyways:unsure: Unless you purchased a touch screen PC/Laptop.....

[anon]

I get your point , the same with win-zip and a few other programs i use

WinZip :blink: I'm surprised that still exists. The built-in ZIP support on Windows basically killed its raison d'être, and free archivers are able to deal with the format just as well.


Now the real question?? What Daz does to the operating system, does it slow down the start-up? or how it runs?? vs a paid license version??

No, it has no effect whatsoever on this regard. The only thing to be wary of is that since this method involves running highly privileged code before the operating system boots, you should always get the loader from its real source mydigitallife.net, and not any other "official" sites you may find.


Thanks Gribley for the offer buddy, i am not sure what the advantage would be for me to go from Windows 7 Pro to Ultimate?? And is there going to be a speed/efficient difference?? The same if you use valid lic or Daz??
If you tell me there is an advantage to change i would test it out:), and again thanks for the offer buddy......

I'd accept the key if I were you; a legitimate license will never stop working like a crack might do (even though Microsoft is unlikely to take measures at this point), and it looks like he didn't plan on using it anyway, so.


...and of course allowing for a flawless "legit" Windows 10 Pro upgrade if one was so inclined. ;)

"As long as they are going to steal [software], we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." -- Bill Gates

With that said, Windows 10 is a perpetual beta with integrated spyware, so I don't see myself downgrading to it anytime soon.

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Windows_10

[shaina]

WinZip :blink: I'm surprised that still exists. The built-in ZIP support on Windows basically killed its raison d'être, and free archivers are able to deal with the format just as well.

I actually meant Winrar Anon:yup:


I'd accept the key if I were you; a legitimate license will never stop working like a crack might do (even though Microsoft is unlikely to take measures at this point), and it looks like he didn't plan on using it anyway, so.

One thing you should know about Gribley, even before he offered it, he sent a PM with a surprise;), and I assume sooner or later i should move to Enterprise since that will be the only one Microsoft will keep updating?? And i assume if you have a key like that you can use it on multiple PC's??

And thanks Anon i bookmarked the site:) And i played around with my daughters touchscreen laptop,(installed some software and Office), I am not a big fan of Windows 10, i will use it when i am forced too....

[anon]

I actually meant Winrar Anon:yup:

I see. The WinRAR trial famously lasts forever, so knock yourself out ;)


I assume sooner or later i should move to Enterprise since that will be the only one Microsoft will keep updating??

Yes except no. The Enterprise (and Professional) editions will be updated beyond 2020 and up to 2023, but only for companies that negotiate a support deal with Microsoft and pay accordingly, similar to what the UK government and military have done to keep receiving XP updates to this day. (These "private" updates have yet to leak to the public.)

After 2020, we may be able to install updates from Embedded POSReady 7 (which will remain supported for another year) on a regular edition, like it happened with POSReady 2009 and XP, but we won't know until then.


And i assume if you have a key like that you can use it on multiple PC's??

Correct.

[shaina]

I would think the Updates for the government and military are specific to them anyways, the same with the banking industry, and i guess there is no sense to worry about it now anyways, but if i could i would go back to XP in a heartbeat, and really i don't use Internet Exploder for a internet access, but it seems i am being pushed to Chrome over Firefox!!, I tested a few out that you recommended and the problem is i can't access my Cable/IPTV except on Chrome! and the only other one that works is Windows 10 with the updated Exploder!!! , it is fucking stupid that they didn't add Firefox access!!!

And really it is rare that i use Winrar anymore, now using SABnzb, i just let it do it's thing since i added the SSD drive in my PC and don't get any slowdowns multitasking......

[IdolEyes787]

Crack feels great but it's definitely not worth it. :no:

[megabyteme]

https://imgur.com/XLkzZRV

[Caballero]

Crack feels great but it's definitely not worth it. :no:

If you say so.

183144

I mean that feeling part. I believe you, but I am literally not going there.

[IdolEyes787]

Surprising you being a poof and all.

[megabyteme]

I was trying to post a similar picture. Imgur was failing me. :lol:

[shaina]

I was trying to post a similar picture. Imgur was failing me. :lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbZC71boQsc

That is a whole lot of quality crack:)

[IdolEyes787]

I was trying to post a similar picture. Imgur was failing me. :lol: Consider the possiblity that you may simply be kind of dumb.

[Gribley]

DAZ installs a boot loader that dupes Windows into thinking the computer came preinstalled with the version and edition you're currently using, thus immediately making it "genuine software", without altering any system files.

...and of course allowing for a flawless "legit" Windows 10 Pro upgrade if one was so inclined. ;)

That worked on three out of four..... no idea why the other wanted to go KMS instead of DLC licensed.

[anon]

really i don't use Internet Exploder for a internet access, but it seems i am being pushed to Chrome over Firefox!!, I tested a few out that you recommended and the problem is i can't access my Cable/IPTV except on Chrome! and the only other one that works is Windows 10 with the updated Exploder!!! , it is fucking stupid that they didn't add Firefox access!!!

Microsoft has recently disavowed Internet Explorer as a "compatibility solution" that is no longer meant for regular usage. Furthermore, Edge is now based on the Chromium engine, so it's Chrome with a different interface and fewer features.

Basically, there's only two browsers at the moment. And some Web developers still hold on to the "I don't need to test as long as it works on Chrome" mentality on top of that.

[Rerecros]

I use alternatives where it's possible. But i would have never had access to the caliber of software i've had without cracks. Sure it can be a painful journey and you got to be careful and use the best practices you can. But in a lot of cases it's peoples best and only option.

[anon]

Crack feels great but it's definitely not worth it. :no:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oozWzypjmqk


Edge is now based on the Chromium engine, so it's Chrome with a different interface and fewer features.

Since making this post, I found that Edge's resource usage is significantly lower than Chrome's under the same conditions, so it's worth checking out for that alone!