Roxio Over-burn

[skelley521]

I was cleaning up my hard drive so I made a direct cd (incd for Nero users).
I wasn't paying any attention to to files that I was dragging and dropping, but when I was done it said that there were 9 MB left so I closed the cd.

I ejected the cd and placed it back in (just to check the integrity before deleting the files off my hard drive) and I noticed that the size of the disk is 1.34 GB.
All the files are accessible, but they do load and install a little slower.

The only thing I can think of is that direct cd must have compressed the disk.

This is the largest over-burn for me yet, I just wonder if I could have gotten the other 9 MB on the disk... :D

[asmithz]

You got over a gig on a 700mb disc. That's highly unlikly, did you check to see if the cd's ok.

[muchspl2]

was that after you smoked crack :blink:


no way you are mistaken, or full of shit possibly both :P

[Rip The Jacker]

1.34GB on 700MB cd
I find that impossible. :blink:

[asmithz]

The max is 800mb, and that is startching very far. Only audio and video can do that. :rolleyes:

[MuGen_PoWeR]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 06:35
was that after you smoked crack :blink:


thats just what i was about to say :lol:

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 November 2003 - 07:52
The max is 800mb, and that is startching very far. Only audio and video can do that. :rolleyes:
yea video I get over 800 every day, you can up to about 810 any thing after it might not be successful, but should still play in most starndard dvd players

[balamm]

I'm not sure that inCD is properly recognized by windows. It might have miscalculated. I don't think inCD uses disk compression as it's supposed to emulate a regular hard drive and it would have to be compressed after writing, just like a hard drive.

[freak]

I don't think skelley521 is smoking to much crack :lol: Cause I've had this happen once before too. not sure why but i tried to do it again and it wouldn't let me. I just figured it was some odd mess up or something :huh:

[asmithz]

It may of burnt but that dosent mean it came out ok.

[skelley521]

I made a direct cd 'not' incd and yes roxio allows compression.

It may of burnt but that dosent mean it came out ok.
I stated that all files are accessible, but they just take longer than normal to install.
They are all applications that I have downloaded and most are normal files.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/277452/112603.jpg

[dave computer]

What kind of media were you using?

[skelley521]

Originally posted by dave computer@27 November 2003 - 11:31
What kind of media were you using?
Memorex
CD-R
700 MB / 80 Min.
48x multi speed

The 50 pk for $15.00 :)

[Virtualbody1234]

Why use Direct CD with a CD-R?

It's for CDRW discs. In fact how did you format that CD-R in order to use Direct CD?

[TRshady]

Listen! ...
Dont tell noone what you did, write to the registry office, state your discovery, release a guide on it and sit back, reaping the benefits ...

Or just give you monitor a hard slap just under the vertical center and you should see its true value. But yeah, its strange, amazing and lucky you :)

Cheap memorex advetising though, ah I get it ... you work for them?

[muchspl2]

thats umpossible, can't do it, thread ends here





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[DWk]

not to mention the picture looks like a photochop <_<

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by DWk@27 November 2003 - 13:33
not to mention the picture looks like a photochop <_<
Why do you say that?

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/277452/112603.jpg

Looks normal to me. Maybe some distortion from .jpg conversion but not edited.

[DWk]

more than just distortion... the way numbers look inserted there....and a lil blurring there....

[muchspl2]

don&#39;t think its PS&#39;ed but I do think its a mistake, no way it can happen

[DWk]

lol check out the file system..... UDFRDR

uhhhhhh :blink:

[skelley521]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@27 November 2003 - 12:41
Why use Direct CD with a CD-R?

It&#39;s for CDRW discs. In fact how did you format that CD-R in order to use Direct CD?
I always use Direct CD with my CD-R&#39;s, it just makes them like a large floppy.
I inserted a blank CD-R and format and name the CD.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/277452/format.jpg

Then I drag and drop files to the Direct CD icon.
Open
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/277452/dtd1.jpg

or minimized
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/277452/dtd2.jpg

Roxio uses the UDF file system. Once the disk is full you have the option of closing it to .ISO or leaving it .UDF. When you insert it in another PC that doesn&#39;t use Roxio and it&#39;s in the .UDF format it will tell you that it needs a .UDF reader and do you want to install the reader. So to do away with the hassle I just close with .ISO.

[muchspl2]

Roxico EZ crappier still sucks and that is not a valid disc, you don&#39;t really think you have all that on 1 cd do you

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 16:57
Roxico EZ crappier still sucks and that is not a valid disc, you don&#39;t really think you have all that on 1 cd do you
I am not trying to persuade or impress you, I am simply stating a fact.

[muchspl2]

fact it&#39;s UMPOSSIBLE

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 17:16
fact it&#39;s UMPOSSIBLE
Doesn&#39;t look impossible from here.........
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/277452/112603.jpg

[muchspl2]

I would wager my house you do not have over 1 gig on a 700mb cdr

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 17:21
I would wager my house you do not have over 1 gig on a 700mb cdr
If I needed another house I would take that bet :D

I have tested the cd by re-installing over half of the apps. and all is good.
I was surprised also, the only thing that I can think of is that the files are are folders with program+fix and Roxio must have compressed them.
I did try this with .avi&#39;s, but it didn&#39;t work.

[DWk]

now that looks like a real wager :P

[muchspl2]

Bullshit asshole ®

[Kunal]

its a dvd i bet&#33; lol, using the direct cd....

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 17:43
Bullshit asshole ®
tsk-tsk, why such foul language and why are you angry at me??
I have no reason to lie, I told you what I did and that I cant believe it myself.
I tested the CD before I deleted the files (I also thought the CD would be trashed). When it worked I thought I would post what just happened on the board.
So take a chill pill man.

Edit:
its a dvd i bet&#33; lol, using the direct cd....

It&#39;s not a dvd, it&#39;s a 700 MB CD-R

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by Kunal@27 November 2003 - 23:48
its a dvd i bet&#33; lol, using the direct cd....
look at the topic tittle


still bullshit ®

[TheFilePirater]

http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/guys/hehe.JPG
damn they making hdd&#39;s big nowadays&#33;

[muchspl2]

you would get more if you check the compress drive :lol:



its sad this guy really believes it has over a gig on a cd, and even worse he thinks I&#39;m upset and need to chill, I never really get mad at anyone on the net, whats the point, shit I barely get mad a people in real life :lol:

[skelley521]

Originally posted by TheFilePirater@27 November 2003 - 18:10
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/guys/hehe.JPG
damn they making hdd&#39;s big nowadays&#33;
Are you saying that I am trying to deceive?
I did not edit the photo as I have no need to try to impress anyone here.
No wonder most of the old regs. are gone, maybe they were right.

[muchspl2]

what part don&#39;t you understand its not over a gig on a 700mb cdr


either incredibly dumb are just stupid can&#39;t decide

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 18:26
what part don&#39;t you understand its not over a gig on a 700mb cdr


either incredibly dumb are just stupid can&#39;t decide
I believe its the closed minded that are stupid.

Besides, It&#39;s not your decision to make, who do you think you are.

[muchspl2]

well for one I know about file sizes and data capacity on disc, you OTOH don&#39;t know jack, ESP if you really think you have over a gig on a 700mb cdr

[skelley521]

Sorry, didn&#39;t know you were omniscient.
I will make my computer bow to you from now on......

NOT

[muchspl2]

if you admit you are wrong you will have my respect

takes a man to admit they are wrong

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 18:51
if you admit you are wrong you will have my respect

takes a man to admit they are wrong
I am not looking to get your respect, I have the CD right here and I am coping it as I type. Believe me when I say that if I was wrong I would be the first to say so, but I can not.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by skelley521+27 November 2003 - 16:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (skelley521 @ 27 November 2003 - 16:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 18:51
if you admit you are wrong you will have my respect

takes a man to admit they are wrong
I am not looking to get your respect, I have the CD right here and I am coping it as I type. Believe me when I say that if I was wrong I would be the first to say so, but I can not. [/b][/quote]
If it is the truth, show the properties of the disc to prove that it is over a gig.

[skelley521]

I did on page 1, but here it is again and I did not edit the photo in any way.
I just used Snagit to get the pic.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/277452/112603.jpg

[muchspl2]

run it through cdmage
see how many error it has :rolleyes:


he won&#39;t come back, and he won&#39;t prove it, because he can&#39;t prove it&#39;s physically impossible, not a chance, couldn&#39;t be done, its not a option, 100% umpossible

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 19:49
run it through cdmage
see how many error it has :rolleyes:


he won&#39;t come back, and he won&#39;t prove it, because he can&#39;t prove it&#39;s physically impossible, not a chance, couldn&#39;t be done, its not a option, 100% umpossible
Pahleaze

2,600 post since 3 sept.....nuf said

[muchspl2]

you can&#39;t prove it, so your mistaken, so piss off and learn more about computers before you hurt yourself or someone else


as for your commet about post count, so what, I own my busness and work with video all day, have nothing else to do while I get paid to render others people video, you should be so happy to do what you want, love it and get paid doing it

[DWk]

uh? :huh:

[asmithz]

Haven&#39;t seen snagi-it ever take such a crappy pic, but anywho it seems like it does have over a gig on it. I still dont beleve it works.

[skelley521]

ahh, you rent videos......yeah, real &#39;puter tech you are....LMFAO

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by skelley521@28 November 2003 - 02:11
ahh, you rent videos......yeah, real &#39;puter tech you are....LMFAO
no,


i run a video conversion and photography service, I convert old reel or any format to dvd
vhs/vhsc/8mm/hi8/minidv

so again you are mistaken, not surprising you are on a roll today :lol:

[DWk]

25 on muchspl&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol:

[skelley521]

Originally posted by muchspl2+27 November 2003 - 20:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 @ 27 November 2003 - 20:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-skelley521@28 November 2003 - 02:11
ahh, you rent videos......yeah, real &#39;puter tech you are....LMFAO
no,


i run a video conversion and photography service, I convert old reel or any format to dvd
vhs/vhsc/8mm/hi8/minidv

so again you are mistaken, not surprising you are on a roll today :lol: [/b][/quote]
I have a friend that does the same thing....its in the back room of a rental store.
Cost &#036;20 to convert VHS to DVD.

[muchspl2]

and



just ask your friend, I&#39;m sure he will tell you the same thing that you can&#39;t do it

[DWk]

:flame: :o :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: 70 on muchspl2&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol:

[asmithz]

skelley521 muchspl2 nows his shit, stop being a dumass liar.

[skelley521]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 November 2003 - 20:24
skelley521 muchspl2 nows his shit, stop being a dumass liar.
Of course he knows his shit.......his head is up his ass and if he looks to his left he will see you.

[skelley521]

I am done with you kids......closed for me.

[asmithz]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[muchspl2]

told you, I knew he would just leave instead of being a man and saying he was wrong :lol:

[asmithz]

I know he&#39;s still a newbien, and thinks he need to show something off the wall to get noticed. :lol: :lol:

[Virtualbody1234]

This interests me, skelley521. You have used Direct CD in a way I have never tried. I always used them on CDRW discs. I also believe that the facts you are posting are as they appear on your PC.

I would be curious to see if you copied all the files from the CD onto your hard drive what capacity would it show then.

I will try some experiments concerning this subject.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@27 November 2003 - 17:50
This interests me, skelley521. You have used Direct CD in a way I have never tried. I always used them on CDRW discs. I also believe that the facts you are posting are as they appear on your PC.

I would be curious to see if you copied all the files from the CD onto your hard drive what capacity would it show then.

I will try some experiments concerning this subject.
I think he got mad and is not coming back. ;)

[Rip The Jacker]

Didn&#39;t he say he used DirectCD on a 700MB CD-R? Last time I checked, DirectCD formats CD-RW&#39;s only... someone correct me if I&#39;m wrong... :blink:

[Virtualbody1234]

He said he formatted a CD-R with DirectCD.

[Rip The Jacker]

Is that possible?

[asmithz]

Originally posted by KrackHead2k@27 November 2003 - 18:32
Is that possible?
No he is just making crap up.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by KrackHead2k@27 November 2003 - 21:32
Is that possible?
I don&#39;t know yet. I&#39;ve never tried it.

[skelley521]

Place a blank CD-R in your burner, open the menu and select format.
Type the name that you want and hit return....all done.
The CD-R is now like a large floppy, you can write to it at any time until it is full (you can also remove it and add to it later), then when you want to close the disc, hit eject then the advance tab and select .iso format so you dont have to install a udf reader on your friends &#39;puters.

edit: when you want to leave it open so you can add to it later, just select ok on the eject screen. Only go to the advanced tab and select .iso when it is full.

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 14:16
fact it&#39;s UMPOSSIBLE
BLING BLING.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Detai...?RelatedID=2788 (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=2788)

http://www.digital-sanyo.com/BURN-Proof/HD-BURN/

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-997817.html

[boyzeee]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+28 November 2003 - 02:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith &#064; 28 November 2003 - 02:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-KrackHead2k@27 November 2003 - 18:32
Is that possible?
No he is just making crap up.[/b][/quote]
it is possible with easy cd and dvd creator6, its called drag to disc and it uses a cdr as a floppy, it will only be recognised in a cd burner until it is closed ;) i still dont see how its poss to get such a huge amount on one disc, perhaps when it was writing the disc info it just put the total size of the files he dragged to it but didnt actually write that amount, ive had discs stuff up at the start of burn process just after writing disc info and it aborts, nothing has actually been written to it yet but the properties of the disc say that it is full. i dont think that there actually is that amount on his disc it just says so ;) i dont think he is lying at all, its just one of those " i cant believe it, i gotta share this with everyone" sorta things :D

chill people, chill :P


from roxio site faq&#39;s

Drag-to-Disc


Q. What is Drag-to-Disc?
A. Drag-to-Disc, formerly known as DirectCD, is a powerful application that allows users to easily record data to CD or DVD. Drag-to-Disc uses a technology that allows users to treat their recordable drive just like a floppy drive. Users can drag and drop files, rename, move, and delete files directly on the disc, as well as using the "Save As" command within many applications to save files or projects directly on to the disc.
Q. What is new about Drag-to-Disc?
A. The new Drag-to-Disc automatically formats the disc when inserted, in turn making this the most seamless, easiest way to store data on a recordable disc.
Q. Can a user restore files from within Drag-to-Disc?
A. A user can drag and drop files out of Drag-to-Disc, or cut and paste, just like they can with a floppy disc.
Q. Doesn&#39;t Windows XP have similar drag-to-disc functionality? What&#39;s the difference?
A. Windows XP has a "staging area" where files are stored before actually burning them to disc. This results in an additional step in the burning process. Because of the way XP burns to disc, more space is used by XP than Drag-to-Disc when saving files to disc.
Q. Can a user record audio CDs with Drag-to-Disc?
A. Drag-to-Disc is designed to record data files rather than audio tracks. Any audio files burned using Drag-to-Disc will be treated as data files.


:)

[sandycattz]

50 on skelley521......LMAO&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[muchspl2]

thats not the type of drive he has VB :P
but it is a possible, I was wrong, but HE didn&#39;t fit that much on one cd, I think boyzeee is right, some kind of index of some sort

[pol]

Originally posted by sandycattz@28 November 2003 - 02:53
50 on skelley521......LMAO&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
i smell.....







http://server4.uploadit.org/files/281103-octopuppet.jpg :lol:


ps - i&#39;ve used directcd before, but not with roxio, and the file properties were never accurate

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 22:00
thats not the type of drive he has VB :P
but it is a possible, I was wrong, but HE didn&#39;t fit that much on one cd, I think boyzeee is right, some kind of index of some sort
I never said that he had that type of drive.

I will just keep an open mind about this until I test it for myself.

[muchspl2]

good point

those new drives do look sassy


@pol




thats funny pic

[asmithz]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+27 November 2003 - 18:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 27 November 2003 - 18:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 14:16
fact it&#39;s UMPOSSIBLE
BLING BLING.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Detai...?RelatedID=2788 (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=2788)

http://www.digital-sanyo.com/BURN-Proof/HD-BURN/

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-997817.html [/b][/quote]
Where do you get ahold of this, is it out?

[skelley521]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@27 November 2003 - 20:50
This interests me, skelley521. You have used Direct CD in a way I have never tried. I always used them on CDRW discs. I also believe that the facts you are posting are as they appear on your PC.

I would be curious to see if you copied all the files from the CD onto your hard drive what capacity would it show then.

I will try some experiments concerning this subject.
Just copied all the files back to my hard drive and windows reports it as the same size as I stated. One of the programs is Snagit 7 so I upgraded from 6 and it has a nice new interface and the quality is better.

[DWk]

i think i just lost plenty-o-money :(

[asmithz]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+27 November 2003 - 18:48--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 27 November 2003 - 18:48)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@27 November 2003 - 14:16
fact it&#39;s UMPOSSIBLE
BLING BLING.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Detai...?RelatedID=2788 (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=2788)

http://www.digital-sanyo.com/BURN-Proof/HD-BURN/

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-997817.html [/b][/quote]
Thats hella dum only those people with that drive can read it. If you made a VCD it would not work. :(

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@27 November 2003 - 19:24
Thats hella dum only those people with that drive can read it. If you made a VCD it would not work. :(
very few dvd burners can actually create HD-Burn CDs, but a lot of DVD-Roms actually have the potential to read them-- the manufacturers just need to modify the firmware to add read support.

so far, these are the dvd burner models i&#39;ve been able to find, that can make HD-Burn CDs.

Optorite DD0203, DD0201, and DD0401
Sanyo CRD-BPDV2
MSI DR4-A and DR8-A

Plextor have a similar technology called GigaRec on some of their drives, but it only stretches an 80minute CD to about 1gb.

and increasing the capacity of a format through a more efficient disc layout is not "hella dum."

[muchspl2]

wow those are cheap dvdr&#39;s http://resellerratings.com/

Optorite DD0203 106.00
MSI DR4-A and DR8-A 130.00 USD

[Virtualbody1234]

Hey look at this one. A DVD burner at 8x for DVD+R and it does HD-Burn at 24x also.

http://www.optorite.com/newproducts.htm

This one too: http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8497

[muchspl2]

that has to be the future of cdr&#39;s
I really hope we see cdr&#39;s that can read it, thats the bridge for it to really take off

[Monkster]

wow, from pessimist to optimist, all in one thread&#33; :P

[DWk]

its not that u nub <_<

if skelley shoulda looked for this links (oh nevermind...he didnt even know HOW IT happened) this thread woulda been long gone, uc?

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by Monkster@28 November 2003 - 06:57
wow, from pessimist to optimist, all in one thread&#33; :P
I still don&#39;t think he has over a gig of usable data on 1 700mb cdr were talking about total different things, he states he did it on a cdr, the thing were talking about new freshness in dvd-r technology



EDIT:


heres a funny pic I found :lol: :lol:
http://www.digital-sanyo.com/BURN-Proof/image/HD-me.gif

[3RA1N1AC]

lol, yeah. it doesn&#39;t sound like cd-roms can have HD-Burn read support added to them, so basically this is just a way to use CD-Rs as "sort of like" 1.4gb DVDs.

[muchspl2]

so whats the verdict, this guy bullshitting or has he cornered the market on a new way to compress data :blink:

[asmithz]

His bullshiting, he hasent figured it out. :o

[muchspl3]

it was bullshit and should be moved to the lounge for the contest