PDA

View Full Version : Can Comcast Suspend Ur Account If U Use Bittorrent



sk8erjo9
11-27-2003, 06:51 AM
Can comcast suspend ur account if u use Bittorrent?

abu_has_the_power
11-27-2003, 06:54 AM
hey hey!!! wat up? read that other thread


EDIT: btw, the least u can do is respond man.

Jay
11-27-2003, 07:39 AM
i dont think so, i use comcast and been using bittoret for a few months now.

internet.news
11-27-2003, 04:18 PM
I hope they can't! What is about privacy?

abu_has_the_power
11-27-2003, 10:35 PM
guys. sk8terjo isn't a noob. he knows more bout downloading tv shows from bt than i do, an i know a lot. don't judge newcomers by their # of posts. the guy is a pirating genius, but so am i. lol. he hey, how u liking the forum?

DasScoot
11-28-2003, 04:04 AM
They could probably suspend your account if your favorite color was green, if they wanted to.

RealitY
11-28-2003, 04:25 AM
I imagne if they get three © violation letters they will...

Jay
11-28-2003, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by REALITY@27 November 2003 - 23:25
I imagne if they get three © violation letters they will...
can u find out if u have any violations against u.

abu_has_the_power
11-28-2003, 05:13 AM
if comcast c's u dling, do they do anything? or do they report ur to the shitheads?

RealitY
11-28-2003, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by Jay+27 November 2003 - 21:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jay @ 27 November 2003 - 21:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-REALITY@27 November 2003 - 23:25
I imagne if they get three © violation letters they will...
can u find out if u have any violations against u. [/b][/quote]
They&#39;ll email you as soon as they get one, thats the routine...


if comcast c&#39;s u dling, do they do anything? or do they report ur to the shitheads?
No, that would only chase customers away, after your money makes them, its no secret how many people use bb for filesharing and they know it, and it could be considered an invasion of privacy.

Although I would say it seems they are the biggest pricks when it comes to turning people over. It seem ISP&#39;s like Verizon and SBC are trying to fight the DCMA bullshit while fkers like Comcast are supporting it, and all the others are somewhere in the middle I imagine...

stephenkelly
11-28-2003, 05:24 AM
:( <_< :D :unsure: :) :huh: :o :o ;) :lol:
Just be careful u&#39;alllllllll. I think it&#39;s true. Go to SBC Yahoo DSL if possible. Bye and all the best.

toddiscool
11-28-2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by DasScoot@27 November 2003 - 23:04
They could probably suspend your account if your favorite color was green, if they wanted to.
That is completley correct. Read your eula, ISP&#39;s can do whatever they want to your connection, and know exactly what you are doing with it should they choose to know. Its more a matter of if they would want to, not if they can.

BillyBongThorton
11-28-2003, 05:43 PM
You know it&#39;s funny I read this thread last night and It jogged my memory to an incident I had with ATT broadband about a year ago. I was using Kazaa constantly and ended up getting an e-mail from the saying I violated their terms of service and I had been formally warned to stop illegally downloading copyrighted shit.

Well it pissed me off so much that instantly e-mailed them back and told them to "go fuck themselves, butt the fuck out I pay &#036;60 a month for your service, quit violating my privacy, and if you don&#39;t like what I&#39;m doing I&#39;ll just switch over to DSL (it was cable) in a heart beat.

Well funny enough I had them for another 2 months after that, I continued to download what i wanted when I wanted to, and they never hassled me about it again. B)

So I say if you get one of these e-mails and you can AFFORD to burn your bridges with your current ISP...Tell them to fuck off or you&#39;ll switch to a competitor. Worked for me&#33;

abu_has_the_power
11-28-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by BillyBongThorton@28 November 2003 - 12:43
You know it&#39;s funny I read this thread last night and It jogged my memory to an incident I had with ATT broadband about a year ago. I was using Kazaa constantly and ended up getting an e-mail from the saying I violated their terms of service and I had been formally warned to stop illegally downloading copyrighted shit.

Well it pissed me off so much that instantly e-mailed them back and told them to "go fuck themselves, butt the fuck out I pay &#036;60 a month for your service, quit violating my privacy, and if you don&#39;t like what I&#39;m doing I&#39;ll just switch over to DSL (it was cable) in a heart beat.

Well funny enough I had them for another 2 months after that, I continued to download what i wanted when I wanted to, and they never hassled me about it again. B)

So I say if you get one of these e-mails and you can AFFORD to burn your bridges with your current ISP...Tell them to fuck off or you&#39;ll switch to a competitor. Worked for me&#33;
ha ha. nice one&#33; if i get a router, it&#39;ll be a hardware firewall that blocks everything rite? it&#39;ll be better than the software firewalls like zonealarm or sygate?

BillyBongThorton
11-28-2003, 05:57 PM
Yep..alot better IMO, the only problem is (at least with bittorent) you need forward to ports to achieve your maximum d/l speeds...I have yet to do this with my Belkin router so I zeroed in on your threat about configuring your router. Hopefully someone can help because I am clueless as how to go about doing it.

abu_has_the_power
11-28-2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by BillyBongThorton@28 November 2003 - 12:57
Yep..alot better IMO, the only problem is (at least with bittorent) you need forward to ports to achieve your maximum d/l speeds...I have yet to do this with my Belkin router so I zeroed in on your threat about configuring your router. Hopefully someone can help because I am clueless as how to go about doing it.
yea. i remember there&#39;s a link to a guide. but i forgot wat it was, so i&#39;m asking for it

Switeck
11-28-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by BillyBongThorton@28 November 2003 - 12:57
Yep..alot better IMO, the only problem is (at least with bittorent) you need forward to ports to achieve your maximum d/l speeds...I have yet to do this with my Belkin router so I zeroed in on your threat about configuring your router. Hopefully someone can help because I am clueless as how to go about doing it.
If you&#39;re behind a router AND port-forwarding AND running BitTorrent, it&#39;s the same to ANYONE trying to monitor you as not running a firewall/router at all.

BitTorrent experimental versions SHOWS almost every ip of everyone trying to download/upload that file at the time.

BillyBongThorton
11-29-2003, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Switeck+28 November 2003 - 22:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Switeck @ 28 November 2003 - 22:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BillyBongThorton@28 November 2003 - 12:57
Yep..alot better IMO, the only problem is (at least with bittorent) you need forward to ports to achieve your maximum d/l speeds...I have yet to do this with my Belkin router so I zeroed in on your threat about configuring your router.&nbsp; Hopefully someone can help because I am clueless as how to go about doing it.
If you&#39;re behind a router AND port-forwarding AND running BitTorrent, it&#39;s the same to ANYONE trying to monitor you as not running a firewall/router at all.

BitTorrent experimental versions SHOWS almost every ip of everyone trying to download/upload that file at the time. [/b][/quote]
Um, Yeah well that&#39;s the inherent risk of using bittorent. There pretty much no way around this since your download speed is proportional to you upload speed.

Besdies I was referring to hardware firewall v. software firewalls in general. Not for purposes of trying to keep you IP address conceal (which as you so eloquently stated is impossible in this case). :rolleyes:

abu_has_the_power
11-29-2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by BillyBongThorton+28 November 2003 - 19:11--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BillyBongThorton @ 28 November 2003 - 19:11)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Switeck@28 November 2003 - 22:36
<!--QuoteBegin-BillyBongThorton@28 November 2003 - 12:57
Yep..alot better IMO, the only problem is (at least with bittorent) you need forward to ports to achieve your maximum d/l speeds...I have yet to do this with my Belkin router so I zeroed in on your threat about configuring your router. Hopefully someone can help because I am clueless as how to go about doing it.
If you&#39;re behind a router AND port-forwarding AND running BitTorrent, it&#39;s the same to ANYONE trying to monitor you as not running a firewall/router at all.

BitTorrent experimental versions SHOWS almost every ip of everyone trying to download/upload that file at the time.
Um, Yeah well that&#39;s the inherent risk of using bittorent. There pretty much no way around this since your download speed is proportional to you upload speed.

Besdies I was referring to hardware firewall v. software firewalls in general. Not for purposes of trying to keep you IP address conceal (which as you so eloquently stated is impossible in this case). :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
then wats so good bout a hardware firewall?

Switeck
11-29-2003, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 November 2003 - 21:38
then wats so good bout a hardware firewall?A hardware firewall takes a HUGE load off the computer.

The computer never even has to SEE incomming internet packets on &#39;hostile&#39; ip ports, such as 135-139. The router can block 100% of them.

In theory, a super internet virus might be able to wipe out every Windows computer EVEN IF THEY HAD A SOFTWARE FIREWALL due to some oddball security hole that Microsoft never publically revealed, but if it worked only on a single ip port then a router could block that port and you&#39;d never have to worry about it slipping through on that port.

Many software firewalls leave at least some ip ports needlessly in a state that they will respond back that they&#39;re closed instead of sending no reply at all. This is all a hacker/virus needs to determine if it should continue hacking into that ip using different routes. A router can make the computer completely stealth to many pings/probes -- unless those probes hit a forwarded port. This is why you only forward as few ip ports as possible -- even perhaps disabling them when NOT using the program/service that needs them&#33; (DMZ = BAD&#33; Use individual/range ip port forwarding instead&#33;)

BUT... if you&#39;re using a non-standard ip port for KL++ (instead of 1214) and blocking port 1214 at your router as well as in KL++, then normal &#39;quick&#39; probes on ip port 1214 to see if you&#39;re running Kazaa/KL++ will turn up NOTHING even though KL++ may be going wide-open at the moment they scan you.

A hardware firewall (a router, in other words) is good for blocking ip PORTS, while a software firewall (a program on your computer) is good for blocking IP addresses and behaviors. They are either POOR at or unable to do what the other can do -- a software firewall usually doesn&#39;t have ip port-blocking that&#39;s configureable by the user and a router usually cannot block based on IP addresses.

RealitY
11-29-2003, 09:53 AM
Once again Switeck, well said...

judgeofallandnothing
11-29-2003, 10:09 PM
Well i just received a notice of action from comcast for downloading out of time..

abu_has_the_power
11-29-2003, 10:14 PM
i&#39;m having probs with my router. i have a us robotics 4port router, and i go to the admin site thing, and it won&#39;t load. wtf?

james_bond_rulez
11-29-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by judgeofallandnothing@29 November 2003 - 22:09
Well i just received a notice of action from comcast for downloading out of time..
omg me too&#33;&#33;&#33; i got caught downloading the same movie&#33;&#33;&#33;

this movie is some bad voodoo :lol:

abu_has_the_power
11-29-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+29 November 2003 - 18:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 29 November 2003 - 18:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-judgeofallandnothing@29 November 2003 - 22:09
Well i just received a notice of action from comcast for downloading out of time..
omg me too&#33;&#33;&#33; i got caught downloading the same movie&#33;&#33;&#33;

this movie is some bad voodoo :lol: [/b][/quote]
u mean out of time the screener? lol. knew it was a bad movie

judgeofallandnothing
11-29-2003, 11:58 PM
lol omg that is so gay.. lol yea ist was Out of Time(2003) DVDSCr(TorrentsBrasil).avi

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:08 AM
:lol: bad voodoo... :lol:

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by judgeofallandnothing@29 November 2003 - 18:58
lol omg that is so gay.. lol yea ist was Out of Time(2003) DVDSCr(TorrentsBrasil).avi
u think maybe they put a tracking device on the file, and it records down everyone who downloads it, and sends the list of ips to the mpaa, and they inform ur isp. hmmmm....

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:14 AM
yeah we all got tricked lol :lol:

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:14
yeah we all got tricked lol :lol:
until spiderman 2 comes out, i&#39;m prob not gonna be dling anymore movies. and i can&#39;t dl much until i figure out how my stupid router works. still giving me the yellow circle. :angry: :angry:

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+30 November 2003 - 00:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 30 November 2003 - 00:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:14
yeah we all got tricked lol :lol:
until spiderman 2 comes out, i&#39;m prob not gonna be dling anymore movies. and i can&#39;t dl much until i figure out how my stupid router works. still giving me the yellow circle. :angry: :angry: [/b][/quote]
i just downloaded and installed shadows and configured my router and it gave my the green light first time i used it :blink:

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez+29 November 2003 - 19:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (james_bond_rulez @ 29 November 2003 - 19:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@30 November 2003 - 00:15
<!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:14
yeah we all got tricked lol :lol:
until spiderman 2 comes out, i&#39;m prob not gonna be dling anymore movies. and i can&#39;t dl much until i figure out how my stupid router works. still giving me the yellow circle. :angry: :angry:
i just downloaded and installed shadows and configured my router and it gave my the green light first time i used it :blink: [/b][/quote]
did u have to forward the ports?

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:25 AM
no i just allowed incoming traffic to my priavate ip address

no forwarding needed. :blink:

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:25
no i just allowed incoming traffic to my priavate ip address

no forwarding needed. :blink:
but doesn&#39;t that disable the firewall in ur router?

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:29 AM
no you allow incoming traffic with certain ports to my private ip... :blink:

god you are such a noob :D

read the manual came with ur router... <_<

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:29
no you allow incoming traffic with certain ports to my private ip... :blink:

god you are such a noob :D

read the manual came with ur router... <_<
that&#39;s rite. i don&#39;t know shit bout routers. ok. so do i allow all traffic to my ip? but then doesn&#39;t that make the hardware firewall function of the router useless if everything can use ur original ip add?

maybe i&#39;m just blabbering. ok, how bout u help me out. i have a us robotics 4 port broadband router. the link is rite here:
http://www.usr.com/support/8003/8003-ug/index.html

look in the manual and tell me how to set it up with bt. i read the how to thingy for bt with firewalls that muchspl2 gave me, and it said to enter the ports in virtual server to do the port forwarding. but that didn&#39;t seem to work, cuz i still get a yellow circle

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:41 AM
make sure u&#39;ve ticked the "enable" in virtual server setting... <_< :lol:

also go to http://www.usr.com/support/8003/8003-ug/th...l#accesscontrol (http://www.usr.com/support/8003/8003-ug/three.html#accesscontrol)

access control and allow the ports to ur computer&#39;s private ip...

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:41
make sure u&#39;ve ticked the "enable" in virtual server setting... <_< :lol:

also go to http://www.usr.com/support/8003/8003-ug/th...l#accesscontrol (http://www.usr.com/support/8003/8003-ug/three.html#accesscontrol)

access control and allow the ports to ur computer&#39;s private ip...

Group 1 100-149 Allow (25,53,80,110) Can browse(80), receive(110) and send(25) e-mail only
Group 2 150-199 Block (21,119) Cannot read net news(119) and FTP(21) only
Group 3 10, 20 Block ( ) Fully access (block nothing)

so if i do this, i won&#39;t be able to go on any sites, cuz then i would only be able to access 6881-6999, rite?

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:50 AM
that&#39;s just a sample you dont have to configure that way

just allow 6881-6999 in the access control and in virtual server

try that and see if you stilll get yellow light

if you still do just tick the option in bt to "force bt to display green if firewalled" in advanced options...

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:50
that&#39;s just a sample you dont have to configure that way

just allow 6881-6999 in the access control and in virtual server

try that and see if you stilll get yellow light

if you still do just tick the option in bt to "force bt to display green if firewalled" in advanced options...
if i tick that, doesn&#39;t it mean that ur still in yellow mode, or slow mode, but ur only showing green to make u feel better?


Comment
The Default Group has no Internet access rights (Allow nothing).

Group 1 has 50 members (192.168.100.100 - 192.168.100.149). They may send e-mail (port 25), receive e-mail (port 110), and browse the Internet (port 80). Port 53 (DNS) is also necessary to resolve the domain name.

Group 2 has 50 members (192.168.100.150 - 192.168.100.199). They have access to everything except Internet news (port 119) FTP transfer files (port 21).

Group 3 has 2 members (192.168.100.10 and 192.168.100.20). They can have full Internet access (Block nothing).

wat do i put in the Group 1,2,3 members section?

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 12:58 AM
leave everything blank and set everything to block

enter this in group 1: set to allow

enter 6881-6999 in the port fields

same for virtual server

ID 1: Service Ports: 6881-6999 Server IP: 192.168.123.xx, tick enable

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 19:58
enter this in group 1: set to allow


do i need to put anything in group 1 members? or do i leave that one blank?

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 01:46 AM
omg u noob&#33;&#33; read EVERYTHING in my post damn it&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry:

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 20:46
omg u noob&#33;&#33; read EVERYTHING in my post damn it&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry:
hey man. chill. i got it to work now&#33;&#33;&#33; :w00t: i&#39;m getting green again&#33;&#33; WAHOO&#33;&#33;&#33; :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

james_bond_rulez
11-30-2003, 03:36 AM
about time.... <_<

congrats :)

abu_has_the_power
11-30-2003, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@29 November 2003 - 22:36
about time.... <_<

congrats :)
thanks

TELLYTWO
07-07-2004, 02:16 PM
:helpsmile: i have a question about bittorrent. i&#39;m a kazaalite fan, but like everyone else, i think its dying. i decided to try bt. i have d/l godsent. my q is now that i have it, how do i split and burn it? all my tools for kazaa...gspot..virtualdub...ect wont work with the file.
i have cable and have talked to them about the riaa and they told me they have no idea of what i&#39;m doing. just the amount of time i&#39;m on. not sure if this is true but i still share on kl. i&#39;m on a router and when i do a check its says all my ports are stealth.