Do You Still Use Private Trackers?

[AnythingOldSch]

I'm wondering; how many members still use private bittorrent trackers since being on USENET?

[postcd]

i am not using usenet. I am using private torrents only because other people publish some torrents only on private sites. When using good VPN, i prefer public torrents.

[thewho]

I use both, you cannot find everything in one place. Services like netflix, spotify, iptv makes people download less than before. I think torrent will get a revival once some innovation comes in, as countries are trying to make the possible to block pages. You cannot kill an idea.

[anon]

Public trackers cover my needs very well nowadays, but it's always good to keep your options open. ;)

[soulreaper]

BTN for TV, yify for movies, spotify/youtube for music. I'm sure I could get rid of BTN too if warez-bb wasn't down all the time.

[thewho]

BTN for TV, yify for movies, spotify/youtube for music. I'm sure I could get rid of BTN too if warez-bb wasn't down all the time.

Try https://forum.dirtywarez.com :cheers:

[soulreaper]

Thanks :D

[anon]

Will check it out too, thanks :)

[L3tti]

I do use some private and public trackers, no Usenet. Sometimes DDL.


Try https://forum.dirtywarez.com :cheers:
Will check this too. Thank you for sharing!

[thewho]

I do use some private and public trackers, no Usenet. Sometimes DDL.


Try https://forum.dirtywarez.com :cheers:
Will check this too. Thank you for sharing!

I can also recommend these:

https://rmz.cr/
http://rlsbb.ru/

[anon]

Will check this too. Thank you for sharing!

I registered after making my post, and they seem very good. With Warez-BB currently on life support, it's time to look for alternatives.


I can also recommend these:

https://rmz.cr/
http://rlsbb.ru/

My experience is that links on rlslog.net clones don't last long :dabs:

[soulreaper]

As long as the streaming sites don't cover all movies/TV, torrent sites will always exist though I think that is unfortunate as torrent sites are an outdated and quite frankly boring tech. Niche sites like KG will always have a place.

[L3tti]

As long as the streaming sites don't cover all movies/TV, torrent sites will always exist though I think that is unfortunate as torrent sites are an outdated and quite frankly boring tech. Niche sites like KG will always have a place.

I doubt that streaming sites will cover everything at some point, each wants their own content, hence torrents will prevail. Back in the days they weren't so boring :P
The downside of many specialized sites (niche) is that there is not as much activity, or they lack of seeds

[anon]

As long as the streaming sites don't cover all movies/TV

They never will, for a simple reason: licensing. If a work is not deemed profitable or the original licensors say no, then it's not going to show up. On top of that, there is very old and rare stuff whose master copies or even copyright holders may not be around anymore, and therefore only exists as bootleg rips. Think of decades-old TV shows, underground musicians, Satellaview ROMs...

Pirates don't have to worry about that. If a copy of something exists at all then it can be uploaded. That's why Kodi plus the right addons has so much more stuff than Netflix, and Grooveshark was so much better than Spotify.


torrent sites are an outdated and quite frankly boring tech

Define outdated. BitTorrent v2 was (finally) formalized very recently. Prior to that, enhancement proposals made sure the protocol kept up with the times; things we take for granted today, like DHT and multiple trackers, are not part of the original specification.

As for "boring", that's too broad and subjective, but I don't see how being able to get stuff for free is boring?

[soulreaper]

They never will, for a simple reason: licensing. If a work is not deemed profitable or the original licensors say no, then it's not going to show up. On top of that, there is very old and rare stuff whose master copies or even copyright holders may not be around anymore, and therefore only exists as bootleg rips. Think of decades-old TV shows, underground musicians, Satellaview ROMs...

Pirates don't have to worry about that. If a copy of something exists at all then it can be uploaded. That's why Kodi plus the right addons has so much more stuff than Netflix, and Grooveshark was so much better than Spotify.


torrent sites are an outdated and quite frankly boring tech

Define outdated. BitTorrent v2 was (finally) formalized very recently. Prior to that, enhancement proposals made sure the protocol kept up with the times; things we take for granted today, like DHT and multiple trackers, are not part of the original specification.

As for "boring", that's too broad and subjective, but I don't see how being able to get stuff for free is boring?

Agree with everything you said. By boring I meant that you have to always download it before you can watch it. I live in India so I have a bandwidth cap plus I have limited speed so I have to wait till the download is complete before I can watch so I prefer streaming. Also I hate seeding and leaving the laptop on cause I tend to get distracted and so I flip utorrent constantly have to worry about whether the seed time or seed ratio has been met. Overall after streaming sites I prefer direct download sites like warez because you just download the file and forget about everything else, makes me wonder what the incentive is for uploaders on these warez sites besides a warm thank you.

[anon]

By boring I meant that you have to always download it before you can watch it. I live in India so I have a bandwidth cap plus I have limited speed so I have to wait till the download is complete before I can watch so I prefer streaming.

For me, having to download first is an advantage, as it means I'll actually have a copy of the content and be able to watch/listen to it as much as I want, online or offline, on any device. In your case, though, I can see why it's a liability.


Also I hate seeding and leaving the laptop on cause I tend to get distracted and so I flip utorrent constantly have to worry about whether the seed time or seed ratio has been met.

Can't argue against this; I rarely use private trackers yet still check on my client every few minutes to see what and how much I'm uploading :glagpinch:


Overall after streaming sites I prefer direct download sites like warez because you just download the file and forget about everything else, makes me wonder what the incentive is for uploaders on these warez sites besides a warm thank you.

Well, DDL forum uploaders have one well-known incentive. Check which file and image hosts they use the most, then check what their rewards and referral programs offer. If anything, I'm more puzzled about torrent uploaders, as profit opportunities from that are very limited or nonexistent (especially on public and semi-private places like TPB, Demonoid or RuTracker). I think those are way more likely to be the ones getting nothing but a "thank you".

Irrespective of motivation, though, at the end of the day they're putting free stuff for me to download, so I'm always grateful.

[soulreaper]

For me, having to download first is an advantage, as it means I'll actually have a copy of the content and be able to watch/listen to it as much as I want, online or offline, on any device. In your case, though, I can see why it's a liability.


Also I hate seeding and leaving the laptop on cause I tend to get distracted and so I flip utorrent constantly have to worry about whether the seed time or seed ratio has been met.

Can't argue against this; I rarely use private trackers yet still check on my client every few minutes to see what and how much I'm uploading :glagpinch:


Overall after streaming sites I prefer direct download sites like warez because you just download the file and forget about everything else, makes me wonder what the incentive is for uploaders on these warez sites besides a warm thank you.

Well, DDL forum uploaders have one well-known incentive. Check which file and image hosts they use the most, then check what their rewards and referral programs offer. If anything, I'm more puzzled about torrent uploaders, as profit opportunities from that are very limited or nonexistent (especially on public and semi-private places like TPB, Demonoid or RuTracker). I think those are way more likely to be the ones getting nothing but a "thank you".

Irrespective of motivation, though, at the end of the day they're putting free stuff for me to download, so I'm always grateful.

On private trackers uploader incentive could be to get invited to other sites or "high level" sites. What's the incentive for uploaders on piratebay or public trackers?

[anon]

What's the incentive for uploaders on piratebay or public trackers?

I have uploaded several torrents to public trackers, and my motivation was sharing something because I liked it and/or to prevent rare files from becoming "lost". I'd wager it's the same for most people... unless you're uploading crypto miners or ransomware, of course :turned:

[weenden]

i use trackers but i cover my ass

[anon]

i use trackers but i cover my ass

Do you make temporary exceptions for porn trackers? :stuart:

[soulreaper]

i use trackers but i cover my ass

But most torrent sites don't permit free vpns.

[oxired]

every day

[MaxMoritz]

every day

24/7 to be more specific.

[Funkin']

every day

24/7 to be more specific.

So you're the one raping everyone's ratio...:rolleyes:

[anon]

But most torrent sites don't permit free vpns.

I recently learned that IPT and OppaiTime are two exceptions to this.


So you're the one raping everyone's ratio...:rolleyes:

If PornoLab counts, then add me to the rapist list :stuart:

[ripcord]

What's the incentive for uploaders on piratebay or public trackers?

I have uploaded several torrents to public trackers, and my motivation was sharing something because I liked it and/or to prevent rare files from becoming "lost".

This. My philosophy is the same. The rare stuff that you can't find on a private or public tracker needs to be out there and spread around for anyone who wants it. But I don't upload to public trackers. Simply because it gives people the excuse to download and then stop seeding the file.

On a private tracker (especially ratio based ones) you can have retention cos you have to seed the file. The plus point is that even the rare stuff gets well seeded which in turn give you the chance to keep your ratio healthy.

[anon]

This. My philosophy is the same. The rare stuff that you can't find on a private or public tracker needs to be out there and spread around for anyone who wants it. But I don't upload to public trackers. Simply because it gives people the excuse to download and then stop seeding the file.

Well, the choices don't need to be mutually exclusive. Just make sure to either recreate your public torrents with a different info_hash or seed them from a separate client to avoid the infamous "add multiple announce URLs, get banned for apparent ratio cheating" situation. You never know which ones will stick around the longest... sometimes the answer will surprise you. ;)

Of course, that's assuming your connection speed is decent enough to keep up with two swarms per upload and you don't live in a country where you can get copyright raped for seeding public torrents. You may have to compromise otherwise.

Posting to Usenet is another good idea, but comes with its own set of idiosyncrasies.

[ripcord]

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This. My philosophy is the same. The rare stuff that you can't find on a private or public tracker needs to be out there and spread around for anyone who wants it. But I don't upload to public trackers. Simply because it gives people the excuse to download and then stop seeding the file.

Well, the choices don't need to be mutually exclusive. Just make sure to either recreate your public torrents with a different info_hash or seed them from a separate client to avoid the infamous "add multiple announce URLs, get banned for apparent ratio cheating" situation. You never know which ones will stick around the longest... sometimes the answer will surprise you. ;)

Of course, that's assuming your connection speed is decent enough to keep up with two swarms per upload and you don't live in a country where you can get copyright raped for seeding public torrents. You may have to compromise otherwise.

Posting to Usenet is another good idea, but comes with its own set of idiosyncrasies.

I cross seed. I have no issues with it. I also tend to seed what i upload for as long as I can but then I have so much content I want to share that keeping a lot of it seeding on my laptop isn't possible.

Sure I know seedboxes are out there but nope. I'm just too old fashioned that way and won't spend money for that shit just to get stats. Cos that's all that seedboxes are good for IMHO.

Usenet... Uh no thanks. I'm ok with torrenting. It's been working for me for .... 6 years? Man I can't even remember. I haven't been torrenting as much as many other people here or on most private trackers but I've come to learn and understand quite a bit and it just works for me.

[anon]

Sure I know seedboxes are out there but nope. I'm just too old fashioned that way and won't spend money for that shit just to get stats. Cos that's all that seedboxes are good for IMHO.

This and inactivity policies may be why I've trimmed my tracker database significantly over the years ;)


Usenet... Uh no thanks. I'm ok with torrenting. It's been working for me for .... 6 years? Man I can't even remember. I haven't been torrenting as much as many other people here or on most private trackers but I've come to learn and understand quite a bit and it just works for me.

If you value retention, Usenet is a force to be reckoned with, however. Imagine downloading something from 10 years ago at maximum speed.

[ripcord]

This and inactivity policies may be why I've trimmed my tracker database significantly over the years ;)

Well honestly why should I spend money to just earn stats? It's just does not make any sense for me to pay money for them because if you're doing it for the stats, ratio and bump in user classes then you're doing it wrong or atleast for the wrong reasons. Well thats my opinion anyway.

I barely use private trackers. I just use two of them and the rest I don't even know how long it's been since I've logged on to them. :slap:




Usenet... Uh no thanks. I'm ok with torrenting. It's been working for me for .... 6 years? Man I can't even remember. I haven't been torrenting as much as many other people here or on most private trackers but I've come to learn and understand quite a bit and it just works for me.

If you value retention, Usenet is a force to be reckoned with, however. Imagine downloading something from 10 years ago at maximum speed.

Nah I think I'm ok with torrenting. As for retention I know it's important but I seed what I grab or what I share for as long as possible. Like the new tracker I'm on their retention isn't great right now so I'm gonna seed shit like a mofo for as long as possible.

It may sound naive... But sharing is after all caring. ;)

[zoaq96gr]

I still use a couple of private trackers, one is mainly for ebooks, which are not always easy to find on usenet.

[anon]

one is mainly for ebooks, which are not always easy to find on usenet.

Z-Library has helped me a lot there. Let's enjoy it while it still exists :)

[Intr4ns1t]

Just a couple sites these days, the big book site and the little movie site.

[soulreaper]

Just a couple sites these days, the big book site and the little movie site.

Why don't you join PTP when they're an IMDB download site effectively? Just curious cause you're a staffer and you can easily get into a site like PTP.

[anon]

the little movie site.

There's more than one movie site? :O

[Sylar666]

Still use. Mainly Bithumen, nCore, TvStore, BTN. Havent been here for a while... :)

[anon]

Hi, I remember you ;)

nCore is a great example of a small non-English tracker going big and international by merit alone. Same with FileList... maybe Linkomanija will be next? There's also RuTracker and Zamunda, but they were never small.

[TTS]

im still using it
iptorrents and torrentleech the most

[1000possibleclaws]

Casual torrent user for life, probably. I just download and seed, don't interact in any of the site forums.

[Drifter]

Got into private trackers only recently and stumbled onto this thread. Makes me feel like i missed the boat some 12 years back when it was quite easy to get into the current elite trackers. Such is life i guess. Mostly using secret cinema, avistaz and mam. Adding FL to it should cover all my needs i think.

[anon]

current elite trackers

My advice: don't waste your time. The content is good, but at this point they're not worth the effort you must make to get in.

The praise for FL is factual. Rank up your MAM account and you'll find it offered on their invite forum. Also, don't underestimate RuTracker, DHT search engines, DDL forums, Usenet and eMule ;)

[Caballero]

You are the worst used-car salesman ever.

[anon]

Well, what happened to the best?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRf6Q1o7PE

[Caballero]

I bet he at least would mention his own product in the sales pitch. ;)

[whatcdfan]

My life has been pretty easy ever since I left the private trackers. No more hassle of uploads, maintaining the ratio, invites and other stuff related to the private trackers. Who's got time for all the shit anymore? I find all the staff I want on DDL sites. For Music, there are some very good bots over at telegram. Also, left MVgroup, now I get all the documentaries from quest. The only private tracker I'm still a member of is Avistaz only because they don't disable the accounts for inactivity but I only go there to fetch the subs I can't find elsewhere.

[anon]

My life has been pretty easy ever since I left the private trackers. No more hassle of uploads, maintaining the ratio, invites and other stuff related to the private trackers. Who's got time for all the shit anymore?

189401

With that said, "a large chunk of Reddit at least" may be an acceptable answer.

[Drifter]

current elite trackers

My advice: don't waste your time. The content is good, but at this point they're not worth the effort you must make to get in.

The praise for FL is factual. Rank up your MAM account and you'll find it offered on their invite forum. Also, don't underestimate RuTracker, DHT search engines, DDL forums, Usenet and eMule ;)

Will get power user rank on MAM in a couple of days and then I can apply for FL invite. Do they still require your MAM account to be 5 months old?

[anon]

Do they still require your MAM account to be 5 months old?

Recruitment is de facto suspended, but unofficial giveaways are done often and have no hard requirements.

[Drifter]

Yeah, I can now access the unofficial giveaway thread. Now waiting for someone to offer it.

[Funkin']

Mostly using secret cinema

Can't believe this site is still around. Isn't it an old one? Or am I thinking of cinema obscura?

[Drifter]

Mostly using secret cinema

Can't believe this site is still around. Isn't it an old one? Or am I thinking of cinema obscura?

I've no idea about cinema obscura. Secret cinema is old but it went down in 2017 and managed to come back again. So it's basically secret cinema 2.0 at this point.

Edit: Yeah I think it was cinema obscura that went down and came back as secret cinema.

[anon]

I'm so old I remember Gormogon and I Love Classics. :(

[Lucifer9999]

I'm so old I remember Gormogon and I Love Classics. :(


Yes, and those aren't even the oldest trackers I remember! :p
Anyway, still using them, mainly chinese HD ones! :clap:

[anon]

Lucifer9999

:cheers:


chinese HD ones

At one point, Chinese encoding groups changed home trackers like socks. Better to have accounts on all of them just to be sure :turned:

[Drifter]

From what I've seen, the FL invites in the unofficial thread on MAM get snatched up within few minutes and as such it becomes a matter of luck. Any other place where I can look for an FL invite?

[anon]

You could create your own luck using Check4Change and preparing your request and proofs in advance. :)

[Drifter]

You could create your own luck using Check4Change and preparing your request and proofs in advance. :)

Had no idea about this extension. Thanks for the tip.

[Rerecros]

Only private tracker i've used is IPT but my account got disabled for inactivity :( i mainly used it for harder to find things and content with poor seeding. Also felt slightly safer getting applications from them vs rando public sites.

[buggyfresh]

I still use em but really only occasionally - filesharing has relaly died down with all the streaming services

[anon]

filesharing has relaly died down with all the streaming services

Now that there's a dozen of them fighting over your wallet, and Netflix and Amazon Prime Video are showing ads (yes, to paying customers!), there's been a reversal of sorts on this regard.

[DigDawg]

filesharing has relaly died down with all the streaming services

Now that there's a dozen of them fighting over your wallet, and Netflix and Amazon Prime Video are showing ads (yes, to paying customers!), there's been a reversal of sorts on this regard.

I throw my anecdotal experience up as evidence to support that. I refuse to pay for ads PERIOD. I will pay, or I will tolerate ads - NEVER BOTH. :)

[anon]

It's like cable TV all over again, nya?

[buggyfresh]

It's like cable TV all over again, nya?

Does feel like it. Also been years since i came on here - glad to see it's still alive (barely lol)