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mooseman2070
11-27-2003, 10:28 PM
alienware notebooks and aurora (http://www.profitfacility.com)

some more PCs (http://wonderdealing.com)

my god im drooling!!! it says it is blackmarket. someone cold try it out with a stolen credit card

SciManAl
11-27-2003, 10:34 PM
i would be cautous.... but otherwise i would try them, i mean it sounds to good to be true, but if they are really cheating you then at least you aren't (at least i am assuming since you are posting on this forum) a complete idiots that can't check it out when you get it to see if it is really working etc... check to make sure they have a return policy... (ujust in case) if they don't abide to that policy then you can get a lawsuit gtoing... (for allot more then the worth of that labtop...)

Duffman
11-28-2003, 02:19 AM
you know what kind of world is this where we discus wether this site is real, i say go for it, i think im gonna because ive been looking for a cheap laptop and if they refuse to return it, im a minor, 15 don't know right and wrong and im sure that'' hold up in court. which in a way kind of goes against my "what kind of world is this statement", now im just confused

GCNaddict
11-28-2003, 07:19 AM
the two sites are the same thing! look at their FAQs, exact copy!

thus, they are probly crap

_John_Lennon_
11-28-2003, 07:40 AM
None the less, those are some awesome prices on Laptops.

Tasty
11-28-2003, 08:48 AM
In light of what has happened over this situation we are now formerly a trusted company via  www.internetpreventionservices.com.

just a REALLY bad typo.........?!?

wienerschnitzel
11-28-2003, 11:50 AM
maybe they are all refurbished

edit: this worries me http://www.profitfacility.com/ordering2.htm. you just type in the name of the product here. wtf is that?

okay i just filled out the email box and nothing else. It took me here http://www.profitfacility.com/ordering3.htm.

Successfull Submitted
As soon as possible you going to receive a confirmation of the order with western union info to payment. Thank you very much!

muchspl2
11-28-2003, 11:53 AM
it looks like a trap :lol:


try this for some crazy deals http://www.stealitback.com/HTML/Cat115971.htm try there
mad deals

wienerschnitzel
11-28-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by muchspl2@28 November 2003 - 11:53
try this for some crazy deals http://www.stealitback.com/HTML/Cat115971.htm try there
mad deals
this site kicks ass

http://a1540.g.akamai.net/f/1540/2629/1h/images.fairmarket.com/images/site752/0114-002859.jpg

i can get this for 1 dollar

edit:
You haven't found a deal this sweet in a long time. So don't let it pass you by! Bid on this Pallet of Printers and Monitors.

muchspl2
11-28-2003, 11:59 AM
doesn't it :lol:



my friend got a crate of computers, he strung them all together, he's got so many, its like a supercomputer, he had to get a seperat AC, cause the computer room was so hot :lol:

wienerschnitzel
11-28-2003, 12:02 PM
i so wanna crate of computers. but i gotta pick it up in LA or New york or pay way too much for shipping.

One day

edit: maybe its good that im not close. i would buy everything on that site. A whole wall of computers. my power bills would be stupid

mooseman2070
11-28-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Duffman3@28 November 2003 - 02:19
you know what kind of world is this where we discus wether this site is real, i say go for it, i think im gonna because ive been looking for a cheap laptop and if they refuse to return it, im a minor, 15 don't know right and wrong and im sure that'' hold up in court. which in a way kind of goes against my "what kind of world is this statement", now im just confused
i think im gonna go for it to. im gonna get the 16.1 inch alienware

3.2ghz HT
60 gb hd
2x dvd burner
etc etc etc

woah what happened to the real www.profitfacility.com ? it used to be different

Duffman
11-28-2003, 06:19 PM
i was gonna do it then my dads like i paid 1400 dollars for your computer and you wanna sell it for something you don't need, i don't think so

cpt_azad
11-28-2003, 06:22 PM
dam man, that looks too good to be true <_<

raiserblade2003
11-28-2003, 06:30 PM
lol i didnt know the word "cheap" and "alienware" could be use together in the same sentence :lol:

TheFilePirater
11-28-2003, 06:38 PM
http://www.game-revolution.com/chatter/mailbag/supercomputer.jpg

FUCK YAH&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 06:58 PM
lol :P

i am waitong for someone to buy from that site and tell us how it goes... (cause if it works then they have a new friend&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;)

Duffman
11-28-2003, 07:40 PM
someone wanna give me some money and ill do it, id need like 300

GCNaddict
11-28-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Tasty@28 November 2003 - 08:48

In light of what has happened over this situation we are now formerly a trusted company via&nbsp; www.internetpreventionservices.com.

just a REALLY bad typo.........?&#33;?
the site doesnt even exist&#33;

Wolfmight
11-28-2003, 08:59 PM
http://wonderdealing.com/index2_arquivos/laptop_pics/vaiomodel3.jpg
Sony
VAIO 1.7GHz Notebook with DVD-RW Internal

&#036;689.00

HOLY @#&#036;%* that&#39;s insanely low

My damn DVD burner costs &#036;170. (Sony DVD-/+RW DRU510A.. da best)


I dont think i will trust a site like that.. prob steal your Credit Card # and stuff.

Duffman
11-28-2003, 08:59 PM
you gonna buy it?

Wolfmight
11-28-2003, 09:08 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/494387/trust.JPG
.....my ass

mooseman2070
11-28-2003, 11:45 PM
i dnno you guys. im gonna see if my dad will try it. if they take our money they are gonna be coming face to face with a lawsuit.

and plus im a minor and there is special stuff like i decide if i want a contract or something like that

EDIT:also if it was a scam then why are the sonys and other tings not so good? i.e. the sony only has 1.3 centrino

mooseman2070
11-28-2003, 11:58 PM
do you think i should use my mom&#39;s expired credit card?

_John_Lennon_
11-29-2003, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by raiserblade2003@28 November 2003 - 13:30
lol i didnt know the word "cheap" and "alienware" could be use together in the same sentence :lol:
Yeah, just talk about their design.

Oh and moose man, if you go through with it, make sure its on a rather low limit credit card, and tell us how it goes&#33;

_John_Lennon_
11-29-2003, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by GCNaddict+28 November 2003 - 15:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GCNaddict &#064; 28 November 2003 - 15:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Tasty@28 November 2003 - 08:48

In light of what has happened over this situation we are now formerly a trusted company via www.internetpreventionservices.com.

just a REALLY bad typo.........?&#33;?
the site doesnt even exist&#33; [/b][/quote]
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:c_0n7...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 (http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:c_0n7lz1WcQJ:www.internetpreventionservices.com/+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)












Oh, and btw, although they might just be the way they handle info for their sites, but it doesnt look like they are recieving any info that you input, look at a copy of part of the source page.

<p align="center"><input type="submit" name="to" value="Submit Order">
<input type="hidden" name="id" value="2628">
<input type="hidden" name="to" value="[email protected]">
<input type="hidden" name="subject" value="Order done">
<input type="hidden" name="redirect" value="http://www.profitfacility.com/ordering3.htm">

Your automatically redirected to the order done page, even though you can go there on your own anyway by typing n the URL, and it doesnt look like it goes through a server for the info you send, just by clicking the button you move onto the next page.

sage0112
11-29-2003, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by muchspl2@28 November 2003 - 11:53
it looks like a trap :lol:


try this for some crazy deals http://www.stealitback.com/HTML/Cat115971.htm try there
mad deals
oh shit is that a legit site? or a scam?

Duffman
11-29-2003, 05:41 AM
heres my revised theroy, i think so many people fuss over to be a scam or not, that no one buys and that some people actually buy get a great deal and eventually people buy like crazy the prices rise because they can and eventually they go up to market price at which point and underground site starts selling them super cheap, i call it "The Cycle of Cheap Laptops"

muchspl2
11-29-2003, 05:47 AM
Originally posted by sage0112+29 November 2003 - 06:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sage0112 @ 29 November 2003 - 06:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@28 November 2003 - 11:53
it looks like a trap :lol:


try this for some crazy deals http://www.stealitback.com/HTML/Cat115971.htm try there
mad deals
oh shit is that a legit site? or a scam? [/b][/quote]
my friend got a lot/pallet of computers, they didn&#39;t rip him off
its like a police auction site, pretty good prices B)

sage0112
11-29-2003, 05:57 AM
They have a paintball gun set i want, but... its untested. So i dont know if its messed up =/

muchspl2
11-29-2003, 07:13 AM
they got it from some kids who they areasted:lol:

wienerschnitzel
11-29-2003, 12:06 PM
well i put in a real email address in the ordering page. just my email. everyting was blank. im just now waiting for them to send me the payment info. ill tell you guys what happens.

junkyardking
11-29-2003, 12:56 PM
Did a search on google and there a guy who spammed a few forums saying it&#39;s a scam.

But you only have to use common sense to know it&#39;s a scam.

These scams are common on the internet but people never learn.

If it&#39;s too good to be true then it usally is ;)

mooseman2070
11-29-2003, 07:31 PM
@ junkyardking

was the forum talk notebooks thats where i got it from

it says that theyre part of "www.internetpreventionservices.com"

i still believe them. anyone else got sites like these?

p.s.: dont you think they would sell desktops too if they were doing a scam? all they sell is notebooks and cell phones. oh yeah: they do have that one G5

SciManAl
11-29-2003, 09:16 PM
just make sure you document everything you do with the site very well and have the product checked for qaulity if you think it is faked by a qaulitfied person and have them say what the computer is etc... (best buy will do this for under 60) and then sue them for the price your time, and all other fees... if you do it smart even if they scam you, you can still get them back... just think smart&#33;

Dray_04
11-29-2003, 09:47 PM
:huh: has anyone bought anything off their yet?

muchspl2
11-29-2003, 09:58 PM
my friend bought from stealitback, can&#39;t vouch for the other site

mooseman2070
11-30-2003, 12:37 AM
i think im gonna seriouslky look into it. do you think i should email the site to my dad as a christmas idea?

i will look into stealitback.com

sage0112
11-30-2003, 12:58 AM
stealitback has cracp stuff for computers, they have some good cdplayers and a nice paintball gun, its all old crap. The best thing they have is a 800mhz, 9GB laptop.

mooseman2070
11-30-2003, 01:04 AM
hahaha i havent looked into it yet. ive been busy but i&#39;ll do it now

yo whats up with all the toshiba sattleites? all of these computers suck. i would expect criminals would have Dells or Sony laptops

_John_Lennon_
11-30-2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by mooseman2070@29 November 2003 - 20:04
all of these computers suck. i would expect criminals would have Dells or Sony laptops
:lol:

muchspl2
11-30-2003, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by mooseman2070@30 November 2003 - 02:04
hahaha i havent looked into it yet. ive been busy but i&#39;ll do it now

yo whats up with all the toshiba sattleites? all of these computers suck. i would expect criminals would have Dells or Sony laptops
http://members.cox.net/dodger1954/pat.gif the cops keep the good stuff

mooseman2070
11-30-2003, 07:18 PM
i dont know of anyone who would even have computers that bad

_John_Lennon_
11-30-2003, 08:35 PM
Your&#39;s is almost there. <_<

mooseman2070
11-30-2003, 08:48 PM
i think this is legit man, here are pictures of the stuff (http://profitfacility.com/personalpictures.htm)

edit:john all i need is a cpu and memory upgrade. i may get a p4e ya know of course hose alienwares have o4e and have 512 mb in one dimm so that means i can buy 2 sticks of i gb memory and be cruising at 2gb dude

SciManAl
11-30-2003, 11:21 PM
GO AND BUY IT SO WE CAN KNOW IF THEY ARE LEGIT OR NOT, THEN WE CAN ALL ALSO BUY A G5 FOR UNDER 2K&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

okay now that i said that, i will repeat it so that he lissens

GO AND BUY IT SO WE CAN KNOW IF THEY ARE LEGIT OR NOT, THEN WE CAN ALL ALSO BUY A G5 FOR UNDER 2K&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

hehehehehehehehe.....
only one way to find out man, and those are awfully nice prices, and are very nice performaing computers&#33;

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 12:45 AM
if you look at the pics of the top of alienware latops... it doesnt have the alien head in the center or the black things on the side. it just has that triangle thing. hmmmmmmm they could be bootleg. i dont really care about that as long as it has the performance of an alienware

_John_Lennon_
12-01-2003, 01:20 AM
I will agree with you on that.

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 01:21 AM
i emailed them abot the look

what do you agree with me about john? that as long as it has the performance you&#39;d buy it?

SciManAl
12-01-2003, 01:28 AM
hell i won&#39;t care if it had barney on it... if it performed then i would buy it i mean come on poeple, if the pinto can sprint a mile in 10 seconds, then youd buy it&#33;&#33;&#33;

TheFilePirater
12-01-2003, 01:34 AM
if i bought something there, and it was a scam, and i sued, would u guys back me up on it?

Duffman
12-01-2003, 01:42 AM
hell yeah... Duffmans a charactor witness oh yeah oohhhhh yeah

SciManAl
12-01-2003, 01:47 AM
dude everything you post on this board is dated and all of us can attest to when where and how, i know i will... i would worrie more about this though poeple, no mater what case it comes in , just make sure you have some really good benchmark software ready and as soon as you gett it start testing it for qaulity and stats... if the case looks wrong don&#39;t worrie about it, they still look alright

muchspl2
12-01-2003, 01:49 AM
:rolleyes:
if you buy something there, just use a cc, if it doesn&#39;t come, reverse charges
then its up to the vender to show delivery of the product

Duffman
12-01-2003, 01:57 AM
and also if you buy and it works, youll be known as the guy who risked a lot a money and now we all get cheap laptops in our little world you will be god

SciManAl
12-01-2003, 02:01 AM
and then i will buy 5 more G5s

muchspl2
12-01-2003, 02:03 AM
what risk?
0 risk if you use a cc

SciManAl
12-01-2003, 02:08 AM
might want to elaborate on the CC thing

muchspl2
12-01-2003, 02:10 AM
cc = credit card :blink:

Duffman
12-01-2003, 02:13 AM
im a moron and i got that

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 02:50 AM
but its one of tose western union things would that matter? my dad says he cant put up &#036;1400 this christmas <_< :angry:

woah those G5s have a monitor too. i still think its weird they only have mobile stuff. anyone agree?

muchspl2
12-01-2003, 02:56 AM
if they don&#39;t take cc its a rip off


threads ends

Duffman
12-01-2003, 03:03 AM
no someone has to try it

Duffman
12-01-2003, 03:05 AM
i got it i got it, maybe we can all pool together a few dollars and buy one of there ceap phones

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 03:06 AM
???? thread ends ?????

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by Duffman3@1 December 2003 - 03:05
i got it i got it, maybe we can all pool together a few dollars and buy one of there ceap phones
ok whats the cheapest brand? nokia,sony,samsung, etc?

ok ok ok 69 bucks i can handle for a nokia. (you can hack into these to turn it into a radar detector and get free service

muchspl2
12-01-2003, 03:10 AM
topic question: Think These Sites Are Legit?

they don&#39;t take cc, only none secure money transfers its a rip off

I&#39;ll say it again just to get it through your head
if they don&#39;t take cc, its a ripoff, you want get anything

Duffman
12-01-2003, 03:11 AM
theres a phone in there for 46 &#036; we can test there "trustability" for lack of a better word, on something cheap, and if it works and is such a good deal, sell it on ebay for 50

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 03:13 AM
exactly

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 03:15 AM
hold on duffman are you on wonderdealing or profitfacility?

Duffman
12-01-2003, 03:33 AM
wonder dealing although they may be the same i like wonderdealing better for one on profit the link to that secure shopping site isn&#39;t a link its a picture

muchspl2
12-01-2003, 11:25 AM
fuck I need to start ripping off people on the net, you guys would really send them money, just curiues did you guys pay for kazaa lite :o


> WATCH OUT FOR SCAM&#33;&#33;&#33;
> I JUST WANT TO TELL U GUYS THAT DO NOT BUY FROM PROFITFACILITY.COM&#33;&#33;&#33;

> IT&#39;S A SCAM. MANY PPL PAID ALREADY AND NEVER RECEIVE THE ITEM. IT IS RELATED TO WWW.WONDERDEALING.COM

> BELIEVE ME&#33;&#33; THEY GOT ME ALREADY LAST WEEK&#33; NEVER REPLIES AFTER RECEIVE PAYMENT

> AVOID EDMUNDAS , TODOR, OR WHOEVER THAT IS.

> THINK ABOUT IT, IF THEY ABLE TO SELL THAT CHEAP, THEY WOULD HAVE SOLD EVERYTHING THROUGH EBAY.

> ALSO, A LOT SCAM WEBSITES OUT THERE. SO BE CAREFUL&#33;&#33;&#33; IF IT&#39;S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THEN MAYBE IT IS A SCAM.

......................................

>>> O HOW I WISH I SAW THIS MESSAGE BOARD BEFOREHAND&#33;<<<

I TOO WAS SCAMMED BY "PROFITFACILIY", AND HAVE LOST A LARGE SUM OF MONEY B/C OF THE "CHEAP" ITEMS THAT GRABBED MY ATTENTION ON THEIR SITE.

THEY HAVE A "SECURE" SITE SUPPORTED BY "INTERNETPREVENTIONSERVICE" WHICH BECAME "NON-EXISTENT" THE DAY AFTER MY PAYMENT WAS RECIEVED. SO THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO REQUEST A REFUND.

I WAS DEALING WITH A CUSTOMER SERVICE REP BY THE NAME OF MANTAS AKUCEVICICIUS WHO WAS QUICK TO RESPOND PRE-PAYMENT, BUT FAILED TO RESPOND AFTER PAYMENT WAS RECIEVED.

I STRONGLY SUGGUEST EVERYONE TO AVOID PROFITFACILITY AND WONDERDEALING, FOR IT WILL LEAVE YOU IN DEBT TO THE WICKED WORLD OF SCAMMING.



http://users2.cgiforme.com/rambler60/messages/3174.html
http://users2.cgiforme.com/rambler60/messages/2941.html

Duffman
12-01-2003, 08:59 PM
so i did a bit of light research and on all the forums of bad news about them i never saw replies from other people, what if its the same person who had a bad time and thought he was getting cheated so spread it on the net

mooseman2070
12-01-2003, 11:08 PM
ok muchspl2 look at the other threads on that site. they all look like scams. i dunno about wonderdealing. i havent heard about it on the news

and that guy is spreading it on the net. its all over google. not sure if its good or bad. anyone spreading it on "gayuniverse.com" has issues

mooseman2070
12-02-2003, 09:43 PM
www.voy.com/130879/78.html I believe this guy and i&#39;m not shopping on any of your sites anymore. i spent &#036;2200.00 on an Apple G5 and after a month i have now computer. I will contact my lawyer and sue you for all you have.

Also i think you would get more customers if you use PayPal or accept credit cards.


thats what i may send them as an email. should i change anything (it really needs improvement)? im trying to scare them into switching to another payment method

muchspl2
12-02-2003, 10:07 PM
nobody smart would buy from them :blink:
why do you even try to converse with thieves :unsure:

atiVidia
12-02-2003, 11:01 PM
a new twist (http://www.voy.com/130879/182.html)

mooseman2070
12-03-2003, 12:10 AM
ooooooooh maybe i should buy from them and include muyself and get ten imes more oney than the laptops worth

Twist3r
12-03-2003, 02:24 AM
oh man stealitback.com is awsome

the skateboards are SO DAMN CHEAP 15 DOLLERS&#33;&#33;&#33;

http://a1540.g.akamai.net/f/1540/2629/1h/images.fairmarket.com/images/site752/0011-003152.jpg


i have got a skateboard tooken away from the cops befor it sucks but its great to buy them this cheap&#33;&#33;&#33;

mooseman2070
12-03-2003, 03:12 AM
yeah its good for stuff like that, not electronics ;)

_John_Lennon_
12-03-2003, 03:58 AM
You could always say you paid cash................................

SciManAl
12-03-2003, 11:56 PM
:lol: :D :P :D :P

bigdawgfoxx
12-04-2003, 12:36 AM
Both of those sites say they are completley legit and stuff... but hmmm i would still be scared

muchspl2
12-04-2003, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@4 December 2003 - 01:36
Both of those sites say they are completley legit and stuff... but hmmm i would still be scared
http://members.cox.net/dodger1954/pat.gif

mooseman2070
12-04-2003, 01:11 AM
bigdawg, have you read this thread, (mostly page 5)

bigdawgfoxx
12-04-2003, 01:36 AM
This is so old..lol ive read the first couple of pages but i dont wana read it ALL...i duno just ignore my post then lol

SciManAl
12-04-2003, 04:04 AM
i wonder if the site actually has ever dealed a product, like mayby a cell phone... hmm...

muchspl2
12-04-2003, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by SciManAl@4 December 2003 - 05:04
i wonder if the site actually has ever dealed a product, like mayby a cell phone... hmm...
why would they
100% profit > *

Neo 721
12-04-2003, 02:38 PM
Just because their stuff is cheap doesnt mean you wont recive it, it might jst be stolen, just steal a credit card and have it delivered to you neighbours house.

muchspl2
12-04-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Neo 721@4 December 2003 - 15:38
Just because their stuff is cheap doesnt mean you wont recive it, it might jst be stolen, just steal a credit card and have it delivered to you neighbours house.
they are clearly a scam :rolleyes:


I wouldn&#39;t even waist stolen money on them

atiVidia
12-04-2003, 07:09 PM
what&#39;d u expect?

mooseman2070
12-04-2003, 10:54 PM
woah muchspl2 it sounds like you had a problem with this site before. i mean you just really hate this site

muchspl2
12-04-2003, 11:41 PM
no I am just tired of people being scammed, look at all the n00b&#39;s that come in here crying that they paid for kazaa
and these guys are fleecing peeps for thousands
it is kinda there own fault, I mean who would send a non secure money transfer to Lithuania, but thats just me

mooseman2070
12-04-2003, 11:47 PM
yeah

paypal is much secure