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SciManAl
11-28-2003, 05:18 PM
Okay not to sound crazy but how many of you went out and camped at BestBuy last night??? I DID!!!!

i was wondering how poeple did in there sprees, i am going to plug in a ATI 9600 today and run it through the tests... i also will be messing with four new 120 gig hard drives... only $50 each... hehehehehe :o :rolleyes: it was fun.... anyway obviosly different places equals different stores (kind of) and different prices, i am somewhat curios if anyone got any outragous deals etc... i also got a DVD burner and i will be reflecting on it's qaulity when i can... and a 1000 (don't know what unit of measure) backup unit that says it will power my computer for 30 minutes or more... (i laugh at this, but we will see)


And happy thanksgiving...

(one day late lol)

bigdawgfoxx
11-28-2003, 05:21 PM
They sold out of what i want..but there getting in another truck tomm and im going up there an hour before they open...its at office max. A Microsoft Wireless keyboard and mouse! only 20 bux!!! cant wait B)

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 05:22 PM
Our office max sucks balls in wichita... it had about 400 poeple and only 3 count em 3 cash registers jesus it was a mess... they had free 100 pack cd spindles with no rebate limits... crazy...

abu_has_the_power
11-28-2003, 05:37 PM
lol. i went at 4 am and got the last available radeon 9600. plus, we got so much stuff at office max. great deals man. brought my friend along, he was just falbergasted (lol, love this word) when he say the prices. he got a lot of shit too. amazing sale. i also got that APC $5 ups and the free US Robotics router from microcenter. also got 2 sticks of 256 pc 2100 ram for free!!! i'm so cool. lol

Kunal
11-28-2003, 05:37 PM
man those prices are crazy! i wish we had those wikid sales here in the uk :( :angry:

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 05:54 PM
yeah you wish you were a crazy american don't ya :) :P

yeah poeple were grabbing lots of the ram, i got a whole box, it is only 2100, but ya know what, my clients will buy it just as they will buy a 3200 and never now the difference because they are mainly old folks... (70+) hehehehe :P

any way i think the day was productive, i am going to compare the ATI 9600 against a ATI 8500 Radeon All-In-Wonder card... see what happens... hehehe :P

abu_has_the_power
11-28-2003, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 12:54
yeah you wish you were a crazy american don't ya :) :P

yeah poeple were grabbing lots of the ram, i got a whole box, it is only 2100, but ya know what, my clients will buy it just as they will buy a 3200 and never now the difference because they are mainly old folks... (70+) hehehehe :P

any way i think the day was productive, i am going to compare the ATI 9600 against a ATI 8500 Radeon All-In-Wonder card... see what happens... hehehe :P
i'm pretty sure the 9600 is better

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 05:59 PM
i don't know... the refresh rates at 1200x ??? on both of the cards when compared favors the 8500 but we will see i will benchmark them, and then use them for halo, and see if i can get the game to play without lag... lol

abu_has_the_power
11-28-2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 12:59
i don't know... the refresh rates at 1200x ??? on both of the cards when compared favors the 8500 but we will see i will benchmark them, and then use them for halo, and see if i can get the game to play without lag... lol
the 8500 is an older card. unless u want the aiw features, it's not really that good

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 06:03 PM
well i understand the the fact that it is old, but there is simply the fact that the 9600 is not XT or PRO so it is a close race, and older PRO equivelent card versus a new reg card...

abu_has_the_power
11-28-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 13:03
well i understand the the fact that it is old, but there is simply the fact that the 9600 is not XT or PRO so it is a close race, and older PRO equivelent card versus a new reg card...
u can oc ur 9600 to match pro

raiserblade2003
11-28-2003, 06:22 PM
sciman, shut up and go test the card :D . i want to see what results u get as im considering the same card, but pro version. now hurry up and go do ur testing

racer II
11-28-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@28 November 2003 - 19:04
u can oc ur 9600 to match pro
no you cant.
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9600/rad...ro/compare.html (http://www.ati.com/products/radeon9600/radeon9600pro/compare.html)
Theres a big difference in clock and ram speeds.
The ram used on a non pro cant be oced to 600 mhz.(300 ddr)

TheFilePirater
11-28-2003, 06:35 PM
im such an idiot, i didnt goto those sales...damn it :(

Kunal
11-28-2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 18:54
yeah you wish you were a crazy american don't ya :) :P
no not american, but i wish we had those sales!

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 06:56 PM
lol i am getting my test rig ready for the run... (test rig is insanely hard to run)

anyway i will see how well i can oc it... (not just what is possible, what i get with a computer that i gurunty is better then yurs) :P

ok i will be posting in 30 minutes with results benchamrks as well as my thoughts after playing HALO... the lagyiest game in existance...

raiserblade2003
11-28-2003, 07:23 PM
okay ill be waiting ;) :rolleyes: :D


EDIT: wait, its past the 30 min mark .....you liar :P

raiserblade2003
11-28-2003, 08:00 PM
sciman.....im still waiting :lol: come back, tell us how it went. i can pick one up for like 90 dollars online. and if i order in one hour, ill get it on monday, sciman hurry up.

abu u test ur card yet?

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 08:29 PM
Ok everyone here we go,

The 8500 putt up a good fight, but it lost by a hair... (also note that the 8500 was about $200 more...) that was with benchmark...

As for what i "felt" (yes very scientific) the cards feel like they are close in comparison on games like Copunterstrike, however ther was a very big difference when i put in HALO, the support for direct x 9.0 was a very evident feature, and i also hooked up duel moniters with the DVI to CRT converter thingy...
and so that was fun! speed and qaulity in picture when compared with MAYA 5.0 high poly render models it looked very close the 9600 has a little more detail... And the reall choice here would be if you want to watch TV while playing CS or have duel moniters... :P , but if you guys are asking if it is a good card, then YES, it is, i got very smooth HALO gameplay witch says allot... It OCs a little, but i was hesitant to go to far, because the card has passive cooling, or metal fins painted black(high qaultiy paint, you know the magneticly thingy lol) but it was ok, if you go pro with this card you are defintly going to cruise through the games with no problem, not to mention the 3D rendering i have been doing... overall great card, and a great ATI driver to match!! very stable, this card fixed all my bros computers probles with compatibilty, this card doesn't have many fancy features like the 8500 with it's TV feature, but it does support duel moniters and with XP that means Extended desktop! I will recomend this to any one that is looking for a great card for cheap! for an ATI card it is very nicely priced, and it made me smile! good bye 8500...

raiserblade2003
11-28-2003, 08:35 PM
okay ty. now to go shopping for it online.

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 08:58 PM
no problem!!! :P

3RA1N1AC
11-28-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+28 November 2003 - 10:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 28 November 2003 - 10:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 12:59
i don&#39;t know... the refresh rates at 1200x ???&nbsp; on both of the cards when compared favors the 8500 but we will see i will benchmark them, and then use them for halo, and see if i can get the game to play without lag... lol
the 8500 is an older card. unless u want the aiw features, it&#39;s not really that good [/b][/quote]
yes. the 9600 uses a completely different video chip than the 8500. the 9500, 9600, 9700 and 9800 all use the same chip design (R300) with various clock speeds and board layouts. the 8500, 9000, 9100 and 9200 use the previous chip design (R200).

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 10:18 PM
yeah i know...

anyway any other after-thanksgiving shopping stories??

3RA1N1AC
11-28-2003, 11:01 PM
i just looked through my local Best Buy & Circuit City adverts. lotsa good bargains, like free gifts (GameCube or Portable DVD player) with DirecTV subscriptions or the LiteOn DVD burner & Radeon 9600 for less than &#036;100 each. not seeing anything i really want badly though.

i&#39;m trying to save up for a better TV, &#39;cause my 20" screen with only a composite input just ain&#39;t cutting it anymore. :P

SciManAl
11-28-2003, 11:15 PM
yeah i got the Radeon 9600, and the burner the burner works well looks like crap...

Timz
11-28-2003, 11:52 PM
where did you get the Radeon, i need it really badly, but my local best buy is out of stock =(, do you think it&#39;ll be back in stock tomorro?

3RA1N1AC
11-29-2003, 12:08 AM
you could order it for the same price from bestbuy.com. i&#39;m sure the rebate still applies.

edit: nevermind. looks like the website has a higher price.

Timz
11-29-2003, 12:37 AM
I checked the site, its out of stock, is there a way to get a rain check (so teh price stays the same, even after the sale has ended) , or is that not allowed on on-sale items?

abu_has_the_power
11-29-2003, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 17:18
yeah i know...

anyway any other after-thanksgiving shopping stories??
i grabbed the last 9600 off the shelf&#33; i&#39;m so happy

Timz
11-29-2003, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+29 November 2003 - 03:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 29 November 2003 - 03:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 17:18
yeah i know...

anyway any other after-thanksgiving shopping stories??
i grabbed the last 9600 off the shelf&#33; i&#39;m so happy [/b][/quote]
lucky bastage you :P :D

abu_has_the_power
11-29-2003, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Timz+28 November 2003 - 21:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timz @ 28 November 2003 - 21:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@29 November 2003 - 03:08
<!--QuoteBegin-SciManAl@28 November 2003 - 17:18
yeah i know...

anyway any other after-thanksgiving shopping stories??
i grabbed the last 9600 off the shelf&#33; i&#39;m so happy
lucky bastage you :P :D [/b][/quote]
i got about 500+ worth of stuff for bout 5 + tax. lol. not trying to piss u off

_John_Lennon_
11-29-2003, 05:06 AM
Wish I could have gotten there when I wanted to go to best buy, but my ride said they left me because they couldnt wake me up, so by the time I got there at 10 all the 9600&#39;s were gone, so I just digged around in the DVD Bin and got some DVD&#39;s.

65 bucks for a 9600 owns all.

sage0112
11-29-2003, 06:00 AM
anyone feel like sending some FREE stuff my way??? I passed out from all the turkey and over slept =/

SciManAl
11-29-2003, 09:47 PM
lol i had to fucking sleep in the cold that clocker can relate to as my neighbor to thw west... cold, i was there at 11:00 the day before... just a coat, froze my ass off... and only a beer and my girl to keep me company... when you do that then you can have all my free stuff... *in small print* a pig flying also has to take place for Sci to give his free stuff

Mïcrösöül°V³
11-29-2003, 10:01 PM
i managed to get one of those 120gb harddrives also. cant beat 50 bucks. just think of all the movies i can put on there. :P

sage0112
11-29-2003, 11:54 PM
shit really? you had to sleep over there just to get in line?? jeez. i&#39;m gonna have to buy some camping gear for next year....

were the people over there pushing eachother to grab anything they could?

i&#39;m gonna be screwd since i live in nyc.

Timz
11-29-2003, 11:57 PM
ahah, me2, if gonna try it for Christmas....im probly gonna die, vicious New Yorkers

abu_has_the_power
11-29-2003, 11:59 PM
DA SENIOR LORD OF YOUR MOM HAS 2000 POSTS&#33;&#33;&#33; (RAISE THE ROOF) UN HUH, UH HUH, I&#39;M DA MASTER, I&#39;M DA MASTER. LOL

SciManAl
11-30-2003, 12:45 AM
yeah they had Best buy bouncers to keep the line in order, at best buy we had 600+ poeple, the line was over 6 best buy store size stores long... (very big strip mall) and they were running and cursing and grabbing things, very bad :P and the lines were never moving, and rabbed all arounfd the damn store.. i had to sit for 45 minutes alone in the appliences section and ponder whether i needed a new washer or not... :D (cheap for, but i don&#39;t need it that bad...)

sage0112
11-30-2003, 12:53 AM
how were the prices on laptops?? I would of stolen as much stuff as i could.

SciManAl
11-30-2003, 01:55 AM
lol all the stuff that was worth more than 400 (starting price for all comps, had to be gotten at the customer service thingy, (like the toys r us tag things...) so you couldn&#39;t steal anything other than COMP games... etc hehehehehehhe i aint sayin anything, i take da 5th :P

_John_Lennon_
11-30-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by SciManAl@29 November 2003 - 20:55
lol all the stuff that was worth more than 400 (starting price for all comps, had to be gotten at the customer service thingy, (like the toys r us tag things...)&nbsp; so you couldn&#39;t steal anything other than COMP games... etc hehehehehehhe i aint sayin anything, i take da 5th&nbsp; :P
You can always steal the graphics cards.

Just bring a box cutter, a long sleeved shirt, 3 friends, and an old Best Buy bag.