Spec Me An Amd 64 3200+ Pc

[cjsavvy]

I am having some trouble speccing myself a new pc for xmas - I have a budget of around 1 and a half grand, but preferably a bit less. I already have a soundcard, speakers, PSU lights and HSF and CD-R drive. The spec must include a DVD writer, a 64 3200+, a tower case with windowed side panel, 9800xt or maybe pro and a 19" CRT. GOOOOOO!!!!!

[bigdawgfoxx]

Sounds kinda tough...IM ON IT! you need a mobo too..

[bigdawgfoxx]

heres some good stuff...without the mobo though. Here (http://secure.newegg.com/app/shoppingcart.asp)

[cjsavvy]

Its empty dawg :unsure:

[bigdawgfoxx]

Hmm...it works when I click it...oh well does it work for anyone?

[cjsavvy]

Would u mind pasting it and putting it into a reply so as I can have a lo :rolleyes: ok?

[AcID ZeR0]

it's because it's your shopping cart and it's cooked to your browser.

[clocker]

What trouble are you having doing this for yourself?
Lack of energy?
Lack of resources?
I would suggest G...O...O...G...L...E.

Merry Christmas.

[bigdawgfoxx]

ATI OEM SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800XT 256MB DVI/TV 8X AGP OEM $455

AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 1MB L2 Cache, 64-bit $416

Samsung 757MB-Ivory 17" CRT Monitor - Retail $209 (.20 dot pitch!)

PIONEER DVR-A06USPK4 DVD Recordable Drive, 2MB, Retail $154

ANTEC ALUMINUM SERIES SUPER LAN BOY $85

EQUALS= 1319

[cjsavvy]

No clocker I have been researching and speccing myself silly over the past couple of weeks. I am just having trouble and would like someone elses input who is more experienced with this as it is my first build. Thanks for your time

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok thats what the forums for...people ask stuff like that all the time that might not know about newegg, and im happy to help them. Thats what this forum is for, and a LOT of people have helped me with stuff and i appreciate it. Saying Google doesnt help anyone. If you dont want to answer then dont. Im not trying to be mean to you or nething Clocker I love your since of humor lol

[cjsavvy]

U tell him dawg.......clocker ur a big bully (sob) *rans up the stairs crying like a girl* Anyway back to the point - How much of an performanc increase would a 64 3200+ and a 9800xt give over a 3000+ barton and a 9800pro? In a rough percentage?Worth the extra 300 or so quid it would be to splash out?

[clocker]

Forgive me if I came across as crotchety, I did not mean to be harsh.

It seems that many times we are not being asked to help, but rather to do all the work.
I should have just shut up.
Sorry.

[Virtualbody1234]

Your not going to see much difference until there is software to support the 64bit. In fact it may perform slower and there are still a lot more problems to be sorted out before I would consider 64bit.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Clocker you make a good point and I dont mean to offend you.

VB you also make a good point..I wouldnt buy 64Bit yet..

[clocker]

No one offended me, I was the one at fault.

VB, although I have only casually read of the new 64bit chip, I haven't seen any mention that it runs slower, just not significantly faster on 32bit software.
However, in deference to your expertise I offer a compromise...why not get a new board which will support the 64bit chip and continue using your old chip for a while and see what shakes out?

This is my new dream case, btw...
http://www.twistedmods.com/images/sections/reviews3/lianlipc73sl/kit.JPG
Lian-Li specs here... (http://www.twistedmods.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=256)

This honey is sweeeet! :P

[bigdawgfoxx]

And how much would it cost?

[bigdawgfoxx]

Also, why would you want to apply presure to the agp and pci cards? so they stay in place better?

[clocker]

Cost, I don't know.

Some of the new AGP vid cards are getting so large and heavy ( due to the extreme cooling solutions) that extra support on the outboard edge is a bonus.
These guys thought of everything...

[Virtualbody1234]

why not get a new board which will support the 64bit chip and continue using your old chip for a while and see what shakes out?

Because once all the little quirks are sorted and the software uses 64bit it will be much less costly then.


Very nice case. The first thing to fix would be to cut these out and fit chrome grills.

http://www.twistedmods.com/images/sections/reviews3/lianlipc73sl/outsidepsu.JPG

http://www.lux-design.com/images/fangrill80.jpg

[clocker]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@2 December 2003 - 19:38



Very nice case. The first thing to fix would be to cut these out and fit chrome grills.

http://www.twistedmods.com/images/sections/reviews3/lianlipc73sl/outsidepsu.JPG

http://www.lux-design.com/images/fangrill80.jpg
Yes, it mentions that in the text.

I'm in love :hug:

[Virtualbody1234]

What did they do to your sig, clocker?

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@2 December 2003 - 21:47
What did they do to your sig, clocker?
i asked him that exact question 20 mins ago in a separate topic! deja vu everyone!

or maybe its the matrix...

hmmmmm...

i think clocker did that as his new sig just to fuck the mods up the ass

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ok...i like the case and all, but what stands out and makes you fall in love with it?

[clocker]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@2 December 2003 - 19:51
Ok...i like the case and all, but what stands out and makes you fall in love with it?
The detailing is exquisite and Lian-Li has exceptional build quality.

Also it doesn't have a stupid window in it.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Whoa....when I downloaded Ludacris Stand Up...the bitrates on the songs are CRAZY! has anyone else noticed this?? damn

[lynx]

Originally posted by clocker@3 December 2003 - 01:05
However, in deference to your expertise I offer a compromise...why not get a new board which will support the 64bit chip and continue using your old chip for a while and see what shakes out?
The first thing to shake out will be the old processor. I don't think it will quite fit into the new 940 pin socket.

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@2 December 2003 - 21:56
Whoa....when I downloaded Ludacris Stand Up...the bitrates on the songs are CRAZY! has anyone else noticed this?? damn
yes i did, but this Q is misplaced. try asking this somewhere else (i.e. musicworld)

[bigdawgfoxx]

The only thing i dont like are the rollers..there a lil..uh..cheesy. can you remove them? Also I cant find a price for that case anywhere.

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by lynx+2 December 2003 - 22:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 2 December 2003 - 22:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@3 December 2003 - 01:05
However, in deference to your expertise I offer a compromise...why not get a new board which will support the 64bit chip and continue using your old chip for a while and see what shakes out?
The first thing to shake out will be the old processor. I don&#39;t think it will quite fit into the new 940 pin socket. [/b][/quote]
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but with a million more pins and pins fill center as well

no way the old cpu will fit the new

makes someone want to chase down the intel cpus for backward compatability

intel extreme editions kick ass on all accounts

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by lynx+2 December 2003 - 22:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 2 December 2003 - 22:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@3 December 2003 - 01:05
However, in deference to your expertise I offer a compromise...why not get a new board which will support the 64bit chip and continue using your old chip for a while and see what shakes out?
The first thing to shake out will be the old processor. I don&#39;t think it will quite fit into the new 940 pin socket. [/b][/quote]
the pins in the XP are in a diamond array, much like the 423 willamette(sp?) core



more or less but more squished (plus no pins in center)

athlon 64 is a p4 northwood/modern type pin array

but with a million more pins and pins fill center as well

no way the old cpu will fit the new

makes someone want to chase down the intel cpus for backward compatability

intel extreme editions kick ass on all accounts

[_John_Lennon_]

Originally posted by atiVidia@2 December 2003 - 22:11
[QUOTE=lynx,2 December 2003 - 22:02] [QUOTE=clocker,3 December 2003 - 01:05]
intel extreme editions kick ass on all accounts
Its really just an Xeon, nothing really that new.

[bigdawgfoxx]

Yeah pretty much. It didnt do much better then the regular 3.2 P4. Not worth like the 600 freaking dollars&#33;&#33;&#33;