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DJ X
12-03-2003, 03:12 AM
I think my motherboard is fuxxed anyone confirm?

i was plugging in a usb cable when my pc unexpectedly restarted.. it came back on for about 5 secs then died on me.
Now when i start it; it sounds fine but the monitor won't work also the keyboard and mouse have no life and when i start it i don't hear the beeps anymore to confirm it's started ok.

anyone got any suggestions..plz :(

DJ X
12-03-2003, 03:17 AM
oops i forgot to add it done the same thing ealier today... i took the ram and all the input devices out and plugged them in again and for some weird reason it worked but when it started it asked for the date and told me to register windows.

of course when it went the second time i tryed what i did first time but no luck this time.

camille
12-03-2003, 04:05 AM
Next time when you detach any hardware in you PC make sure you put it back before you boot.

DJ X
12-03-2003, 04:19 AM
Ya i know that now I guess I've learnt the hard way... but any ideas on how to solve this problem.
so far people have told me.
my motherboards fried , replace the battrey , power supplys on the blink.

anyone know whic to try?

4play
12-03-2003, 04:32 AM
its impossible to tell you what it is without looking at it. sometimes its something simple like you put your ide cable in backwards or your motherbaord could be fried.

check pins on all the cables you played with , check all the ram is in snug and check all parts are tightly placed in sockets. oh yeah and your fans are working nothing worse then overheating.

i would check transisters on your motherboard as well. they are noramlly flat on the top but if they have suddenly developed a bulge they will be broken.

if all is fine then i would take it to a repair shop.

bob_the_alien
12-03-2003, 04:58 AM
Since your getting no beeps, I'd try clearing your cmos,
Use the reset pins or just remove the battery for a few minutes and see if it boots next time.

This happens when you OC to far, and you get nothing after it restarts,
So while your not ocing, but still the problem in similar, so try clearing the cmos.
May work.

If not, and you can't find anything else wrong, only thing left to do is start removing cards, and try to boot the system with just cpu and ram in mobo, and see if it boots then.

Sometimes a dead card can cause a system to not boot as well, I've experienced this many times with Lucent modems specifically.

DJ X
12-03-2003, 12:44 PM
Thanks for all your help guys but still no luck.

I'm running outta options here.

What I've done so far:
taking out all cards etc...
unplugged leads and placed them back in again
reset the cmos and took battery out
removed ram sticks and tryed two spare ones

I'm running out of ideas but luckly I've still got three years gold cover on it meaning they have to replace it no matter what the damage or who done it and how so in the long run i'm ok just sending it off takes time.

**GASHA**
12-03-2003, 07:16 PM
You should always start by replacing the cheapest part (PSU) then work your way up. I once had a very similar problem where, when I booted the hard drive would load and display on the monitor sometimes and other times it would not, turned out to the PSU was faulty, thankfully.
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clocker
12-03-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by DJ X@2 December 2003 - 20:12


i was plugging in a usb cable when my pc unexpectedly restarted..
What was the USB cable that you were plugging in?
Are your mouse and keyboard USB devices or not?

When you power up do the fans work and does your monitor wake up?

Virtualbody1234
12-03-2003, 10:01 PM
Maybe it's a Samsung monitor, clocker. :lol:

clocker
12-03-2003, 10:26 PM
You mean the one with the secret reset command?

It's nice that it has that feature.

It would be even nicer if they told you about it...

Virtualbody1234
12-03-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by clocker@3 December 2003 - 17:26
You mean the one with the secret reset command?

It's nice that it has that feature.

It would be even nicer if they told you about it...
So true. I've even searched for it online and can't find anything about it. I think I found one of their 'trade secrets'. People bring it in for service and they do a "magic trick" for $50.

clocker
12-03-2003, 10:36 PM
That's how Samsung keeps it's service techs happy.

If you only lucked into the fix, just imagine how many folks end up with a service call.
Even worse, how many try various, more radical solutions, and really screw things up.

SciManAl
12-03-2003, 10:56 PM
ok i wantr you(the person with da problem) to go into there CMOS screen (del, or F1) at start up and gho into power mangement section and turn it from something POS to STR, and that will make it work , had the same problem, if your mobo doesn't work this way then you are screwed...

atiVidia
12-03-2003, 11:56 PM
what graphics card do you have?

if its an ATI, ive solved your problem

SciManAl
12-03-2003, 11:58 PM
how??

atiVidia
12-04-2003, 12:05 AM
there is a common problem with ATI's cards, and so far, there is no fix, as it is hardcoded into the card and the drivers

the drivers will change your bios settings as long as the radeon is connected. for most, this is not an issue. it is for the unfortunate few that this leads to a MAJOR problem...

for them the PC will only successfully load once, and stop loading upon second boot

If the drivers are not present, the card will do the drivers job, and there is nothing one can do

i have seen this problem everywhere on the internet, including here (as brought up by GCNaddict)

simple solution: ditch the card

clocker
12-04-2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by atiVidia@3 December 2003 - 17:05


for them the PC will only successfully load once, and stop loading upon second boot


I'm lost here.

Nowhere does he say that the card is new.

Nowhere does he say that his machine has only booted once.

How have you arrived at this magic diagnosis given the available information?

I hope you are right and have solved this dilemma, I'm just curious.

atiVidia
12-04-2003, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by DJ X@2 December 2003 - 22:17
oops i forgot to add it done the same thing ealier today... i took the ram and all the input devices out and plugged them in again and for some weird reason it worked but when it started it asked for the date and told me to register windows.

of course when it went the second time i tryed what i did first time but no luck this time.
boom theres your answer

removed all essential hardware, rendering the "possible" grafix card temporarily disabled, and it allowed him to boot!

only once tho... as u can see

atiVidia
12-04-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by clocker+3 December 2003 - 19:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 3 December 2003 - 19:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-atiVidia@3 December 2003 - 17:05


for them the PC will only successfully load once, and stop loading upon second boot


I&#39;m lost here.

Nowhere does he say that the card is new.

Nowhere does he say that his machine has only booted once.

How have you arrived at this magic diagnosis given the available information?

I hope you are right and have solved this dilemma, I&#39;m just curious. [/b][/quote]
i asked if he DID have an ati card as that would most likely be the issue

clocker
12-04-2003, 12:56 AM
And if it&#39;s a nVidia, or, even better, onboard graphics?

DJ X
12-04-2003, 12:58 AM
Hi guys wow 19 replys thanks for all your help.
TIME are sending a corriour to pick it up tommorow I should get it back in two three working days.
I do have a ATI but I&#39;ve booted with it for over two months now and this problem is none gpu related.

Darren

DJ X
12-04-2003, 01:00 AM
Following up on what clocker said when the pc came I got some shitty onboard card but switched to AGP asap.