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xxkazaaliteuserxx
12-04-2003, 11:22 PM
i planing to buy a dvd burner, cuz it seem to be kinda cheap now. but, 4x, how fast is it, how many mb/sec, how long will it take to burn a full dvdr with 4.7GB, any1 no pleas let me no, tankz alot!!!

3RA1N1AC
12-04-2003, 11:49 PM
4x is... i forget how many mb per second, but it's approximately the same speed as 16x or 20x cd burning. it takes about 14 or 15 minutes to burn a full dvd at 4x speed.

raiserblade2003
12-05-2003, 12:16 AM
y, if a 16x burn a 750 mb cd in 10 mins, how can a 4x burn a much more detailed 4.7 gig dvd in the same time? the speed is reduce my 4x and the size is beign increase almost 7x

3RA1N1AC
12-05-2003, 12:43 AM
16x cd burning should do 700mb in more like 5 minutes.

i was mistaken about the dvd vs cd speed comparison though-- 4x dvd is 5.5mb/sec, which is comparable to 36x to 40x cd speed. so, my error. maybe that clears up the misunderstanding, if there is any.

nevertheless, 4x dvd burning does a full disc in about 15 minutes, and 8x dvd should be more like 7 or 8 minutes.

DWk
12-05-2003, 01:29 AM
really? hmmmm i thought 4x was the same for cd-rw and dvd-rw..... omg plz explain a little more now u got me interested on buying a dvd burner....

Evil Gemini
12-05-2003, 01:53 AM
NM

DWk
12-05-2003, 02:30 AM
cmon now......are the burning speeds different for real? what is the actual rate?

lynx
12-05-2003, 02:39 AM
Standard cd speed is 150KB/sec, so 40x cd speed is 6000KB/sec or 6MB/sec. This is about the average speed when burning a full cd at 52x.

I think standard dvd speed is 1440KB/sec so 4x dvd speed is 5760KB/sec or 5.76MB/sec. This speed is supposed to be maintained over the full burn.

As you can see, the data rates are about the same.

DWk
12-05-2003, 02:43 AM
so dvd speed is approx 10x the cd speed?

lynx
12-05-2003, 02:47 AM
Of course, that's why it holds almost 10 times as much data on each layer. :rolleyes:

DWk
12-05-2003, 02:48 AM
lol sry but i dont even have a dvd-rom.... thats why im a noob in this matter, uc? :rolleyes:

bigdawgfoxx
12-05-2003, 02:54 AM
I learned something new today..thanx!

Robert00000
12-05-2003, 05:05 AM
Get a 8x BTC, its almost as cheap as many 4x rewriters, but twice as fast :D , i've got one and it works perfectly.

DWk
12-05-2003, 06:23 AM
tsk too bad i live in a place everything isnt "cheap" lol....

and trying to get a dvd-rw delivered here is kind of a hazard....oh well ill ask my friends see if they can help me there :D

bob_the_alien
12-05-2003, 07:32 AM
I saw on an episode of the Screensavers the other day, that Phillips will be coming out with 16x Dvd Burners early in 2004.
Can you imagine how nice those are going to be. :D

DWk
12-05-2003, 03:04 PM
wouldnt they be extremely expensive? whats the price on an 8x?

Robert00000
12-05-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by DWk@5 December 2003 - 06:23
tsk too bad i live in a place everything isnt "cheap" lol....

Where are you from Dwk?

I havnt managed to get hold of 8x dvd+r disks yet, but i've heard i can use some 4x disks at 8 speed, but don't know which brands.

I think ritek dye disks are the best and some can handle 8 speed recording, so might try them out for 8 speed, see if they work. :D

Robert00000
12-05-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by bob_the_alien@5 December 2003 - 07:32
I saw on an episode of the Screensavers the other day, that Phillips will be coming out with 16x Dvd Burners early in 2004.
Can you imagine how nice those are going to be. :D
I think i'll wait another year to buy a 16x writer, the price when this first comes out will be too high for the benefit.

By the end of next year there might be 32 speed writers, who knows :D

clocker
12-05-2003, 03:47 PM
Although I can see how speed may be a factor in your decision, practically speaking, how many DVDs do you plan on burning in one session?

From my reading, some brands are very sensitive to the brand of media you use, thus limiting your choices in that area.
Also, as DVD burners are a fairly new consumer product, long term reliability isn't well known yet.

I think for my first DVD burner I will stick to a reputable manufacturer ( probably Sony) and just live with whatever the burn speed happens to be. 5 or 10 minutes every once and a while will hardly make or break me...

DWk
12-05-2003, 04:04 PM
Guatemala :D

but yea i know what u mean...they are fairly new....but i want a dvd-rw so i can keep a lotta things there :D

xxkazaaliteuserxx
12-05-2003, 07:39 PM
[QUOTE]I think i'll wait another year to buy a 16x writer, the price when this first comes out will be too high for the benefit.

By the end of next year there might be 32 speed writers, who knows

tankz 4 replying yall, i tink ima buy 1, cant wait anymore man, i been waiting 4 two years already,

Robert00000
12-05-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by clocker@5 December 2003 - 15:47
From my reading, some brands are very sensitive to the brand of media you use, thus limiting your choices in that area.

That's true i bought a different brand before that wouldnt write on low quality disks. I used to only buy ritek dye disks for that. (ritek have darker dye)

I took it back to the retailer for a refund and bought the BTC, which works on all branded media.

I've copied over 80 movies since i bought my first dvd-rewiter. It's saved me money having to re-hire movies to watch. :D

I think the speed is important because i hate the wait.

I'm a bit paranoid about moving too much when the dvd-writer is at work just in case it damages the disk. That's because years ago i used to own a iomega zip cd-writer, which was very sensitive to too much movement (ground vibration), so sex was out of the question when recording :lol:

raiserblade2003
12-05-2003, 09:35 PM
hehe im gonna get one just to be able to burn ps2 and xbox games.

bob_the_alien
12-05-2003, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Robert00000@5 December 2003 - 14:57
That's because years ago i used to own a iomega zip cd-writer, which was very sensitive to too much movement (ground vibration), so sex was out of the question when recording  :lol:
:lol: :lol: :jester:

I think I'd wait awhile before picking up a 16x as well though, I'd say at least for 6 - 12 months you're looking at 300 - 400 dollars.

But I still love to have one :clap:

h121589
12-05-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by raiserblade2003@5 December 2003 - 21:35
hehe im gonna get one just to be able to burn ps2 and xbox games.
me 2

neevakee
12-06-2003, 01:14 AM
one problem with the 8x is the disks. You have to be able to find 8x disk and they will be a lot more than 4x or 2.4x disks.

peat moss
12-06-2003, 06:45 PM
Im looking to bye one also but im a little confused about the different formats.
You know the plus minus crap.

lynx
12-06-2003, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by peat moss@6 December 2003 - 17:45
Im looking to bye one also but im a little confused about the different formats.
You know the plus minus crap.
Get a dual format one.

Then buy the cheapest media. If one format becomes the standard, you can be sure that the price of the media will fall.

Robert00000
12-07-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by lynx+6 December 2003 - 20:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 6 December 2003 - 20:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-peat moss@6 December 2003 - 17:45
Im looking to bye one also but im a little confused about the different formats.
You know the plus minus crap.
Get a dual format one.

Then buy the cheapest media. If one format becomes the standard, you can be sure that the price of the media will fall. [/b][/quote]
Make sure you choose your re-writer carefully, because some dont write on cheaper disks.