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bigdawgfoxx
12-07-2003, 11:15 PM
Ok...what I do with my Cds, is simply put them in the drive, and let Windows Media Player "rip" it. It makes it to where I can listen to the songs in media player and do whatever I want with them. However, my question is if that is considered an MP3? Like could I share those (complete albums) with other users on Soulseek?..if I can get it to work <_<

Adster
12-07-2003, 11:57 PM
NO don&#39;t sue WMP to rip&#33;&#33;&#33; it is shit&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

use dbPoweramp :)

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
12-08-2003, 12:01 AM
:) This is just my opinion bigdawgfoxx and is what I use.Other People are going to tell you different(Lamsey :P ).Play around with all the Programs people suggest and see what you like.Drop useing Windows Media Player.

Ripping: dBpowerAMP (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm)

Burning: NERO 6 (http://www.nero.com/us/index.html)

Playing / Listening: WinAMP 5 (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2490.html)

Cataloging / Databasing: OrangeCD Catalog (http://www.firetongue.com/cd-database.html)
__________________________________________________________________

:D Tools of the Trade for ole FC. :D


FC B)

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 12:37 AM
My personal opinion is that music sounds better when listening to it off of WMP instead of Winamp. Also the new winamp..like winamp 3 actually, took like 20 seconds to open on my computer&#33;&#33; I duno about the new winamp tho, but windows media player is instant.

I will try what you suggested for ripping, and I have Nero 6 although I kinda dont understand all the feautres and shit...

I will try that Orange CD thing even though I have no clue what it is.

My first question was never really answered...can I share the stuff ripped off of WMP (It is variable bitrate and sounds great to me.. :rolleyes: ) Will Soulseek recognize it as MP3? The reason I wonder is because they are my friends CDs ive ripped and he is at military school right now...lol I barley have any CDs

IF I CAN GET SOULSEEK or eMule to work&#33; UGH

Thanks for help&#33;&#33;

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
12-08-2003, 12:39 AM
:) Yeah....it will recognize it as am MP3.Get over there and let me or somebody else have a look. :D

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 12:46 AM
lol ok I will try to PM you on there

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 01:55 AM
Hey..when I downloaded dbpoweramp...it comes with 2 icons. which do i choose? the one on the top? or the one on the bottom? The one on top seems easiest to use...but i duno. I just wana make sure im doing it right lol

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/Power%20amp.JPG

3rd gen noob
12-08-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 December 2003 - 00:55
Hey..when I downloaded dbpoweramp...it comes with 2 icons. which do i choose? the one on the top? or the one on the bottom? The one on top seems easiest to use...but i duno. I just wana make sure im doing it right lol

http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/Power%20amp.JPG
the one on the top :)
good luck

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 02:01 AM
Thanks man..I love easy to read replys&#33; lol What is the bottom one for?

3rd gen noob
12-08-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 December 2003 - 01:01
Thanks man..I love easy to read replys&#33; lol What is the bottom one for?
for conversion between music formats, etc mp3 -> wav, wma -> mp3 etc :)

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 02:15 AM
Ohh so the top converts CDs to a format...and the bottom one converts a format to a diff format?? I HOPE SO lol

3rd gen noob
12-08-2003, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 December 2003 - 01:15
Ohh so the top converts CDs to a format...and the bottom one converts a format to a diff format?? I HOPE SO lol
yep...but if you rip all your cd&#39;s to mp3, you shouldn&#39;t need to convert anything :)

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 02:27 AM
Yeah well I didnt know at first...so I have like 8 albums on .wav...lol so I will convert those&#33; this rocks&#33; and i love this winter skin&#33; lol Thanks for all of your help 3rd gen

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 02:33 AM
hmmm can it not convert wma files?? cuz the 8 albumbs are wma...not wav :(

callum
12-08-2003, 02:38 AM
It can, but I think you need a codec from the dbpower amp site.
Also I think most people would prefer if they were ripped straight from cd to mp3.

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 02:40 AM
Oh ok, thanks.

Also..the ones I ripped of WMP sound GREATTTTT and are only like 2MB a song...They sound better then like 192Bitrate..whats up with that?

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 02:42 AM
and also..there at variable bitrate..which is like 256bitrate...which sounds GREAT. So if i converted them to MP3 I think they would sound great..

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 03:48 AM
OK WHATS UP WITH THE FORUM??? NOONE HAS POSTED ANYTHING IN LIKE AN HOUR&#33;&#33;

4play
12-08-2003, 04:04 AM
mp3 is kinda getting old now. so there are newer products out that compress much better.

in wma audio&#39;s case it normally also includes drm stuff so try to avoid that if your gonna share them.

patience is also a virtue.

bigdawgfoxx
12-08-2003, 04:55 AM
MP3 is getting kinda old now?? what the hell are you saying???

4play
12-08-2003, 05:18 AM
here (http://www.mp3-mac.com/Pages/History_of_MP3.html)

have you seen the advancements divx have made in the past few years. well mp3 has not changed alot in a while as far as i can tell.

other formats are always changing there codecs. ogg, wma and others.

Afronaut
12-08-2003, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 December 2003 - 03:40
Oh ok, thanks.

Also..the ones I ripped of WMP sound GREATTTTT and are only like 2MB a song...They sound better then like 192Bitrate..whats up with that?
WMA files could also have malicious scripts innit.
Avoid WMA&#39;s at all costs.
mp3&#39;s are the most common format, for audio.
There&#39;s other formats too, but you&#39;ll
likely to need a codec or a program to run them.

Things to read:

mp3 pinned (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=22763)
Soulseek pinned (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=45353)
p2p pinned (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=56114)
pinned Bittorrent (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=54389)

As you can see, most of your questions are answered in these so called
Pinned Topics, if you dont find the answer, trty to search the forums.
As a new user of SoulSeek, your questions have been most likely
answered before, its just a matter of finding it.
(The Bittorrent is cool for bigger files...)
Cheers:
-GS-

Afronaut
12-08-2003, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by 4play@8 December 2003 - 06:18
here (http://www.mp3-mac.com/Pages/History_of_MP3.html)

have you seen the advancements divx have made in the past few years. well mp3 has not changed alot in a while as far as i can tell.

other formats are always changing there codecs. ogg, wma and others.
Part of the success behind mp3 format is it has not changed much,
no need to find a new codec every other week or so.

Cheers:
-GS-

bigdawgfoxx
12-09-2003, 12:42 AM
Amen lol Ok but everyone acts like the WMA is shit..but everything Ive ripped from there that is variable bitrate, or even 64bitrate sounds SO much better then 192bitrate MP3 that I get off of souldseek...whats up with that?

Spider_dude
12-09-2003, 02:06 AM
plz stfu you are mistaken. wma is gay, it is a known fact.

bigdawgfoxx
12-09-2003, 02:18 AM
Actually im not. When i play the windows media audio .wma it sounds great.

3rd gen noob
12-09-2003, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@9 December 2003 - 01:18
Actually im not. When i play the windows media audio .wma it sounds great.
the perceived sound quality will depend on your soundcard and speakers (among other things)

it&#39;s generally felt that mp3&#39;s are better as a compression codec than wma though :)

bigdawgfoxx
12-09-2003, 02:30 AM
Well they can think what they want lol. I got like some 20 dollar speakers and a 3 year old sound card...and it sounds good lol.

3rd gen noob
12-09-2003, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@9 December 2003 - 01:30
Well they can think what they want lol. I got like some 20 dollar speakers and a 3 year old sound card...and it sounds good lol.
:lol:

horses for courses

bigdawgfoxx
12-09-2003, 02:37 AM
uh whats that mean? lol

3rd gen noob
12-09-2003, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@9 December 2003 - 01:37
uh whats that mean? lol
similar to "each to their own"

personal taste, you know...? :)

sparsely
12-09-2003, 07:55 AM
yes, there are alot of newer, better compression methods (FLAC, MPC, OGG, etc.) that everyone could be encoding with, rather than
dumb ol mp3....it&#39;s simply a matter of standardization. It&#39;s easier to distribute to a larger number of people when you can assume
that everyone knows how to open and use a particular file type. Go try to get a WMA player for your car.
Any other format could be inserted here.

But yeah. I agree. mp3 is rather old....and there should be some changes made to it, or everyone should start adopting another format.
But nobody seems to have an idea what it should be, everyone has their favorite (I like ogg).

but um....if you rip to mp3 with anything but EAC + Lame, you&#39;re not qualified to care. ;)

as for a fast, good music player, try QCD (http://www.quinnware.com/).
you won&#39;t have any trouble getting used to it if you&#39;ve used winamp.

god-of-rock
12-09-2003, 11:19 AM
If you wanna use your files on your computer, you can use whatever the hell kinda format you chose.... but if you&#39;re gonna be at SoulSeek and share albums with others; you better have &#39;em in mp3-format or people most likely won&#39;t be interested in sharing with you...

Here&#39;s an example:
Since I am a Norwegian, it would be easier for ME to use my mother&#39;s language, but to make this understandable for everyone I write it in English.... get it?

bigdawgfoxx
12-09-2003, 12:15 PM
whats wrong with dbpoweramp sparsely?

Spider_dude
12-09-2003, 01:41 PM
i assumed you were english g-o-r. fuck sake your english is good.

if you share wma on slsk, no one will download from you or let you download from them.

Gutter
12-09-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Spider_dude@9 December 2003 - 05:41
i assumed you were English g-o-r. fuck sake your english is good.

if you share wma on slsk, no one will download from you or let you download from them.
he got rid of half his annoyance&#39;s

and now to install knowledge

god-of-rock
12-09-2003, 07:54 PM
i assumed you were english g-o-r. fuck sake your english is good.


;)
Well I sure are tryin&#39;

bigdawgfoxx
12-09-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Spider_dude@9 December 2003 - 07:41
if you share wma on slsk, no one will download from you or let you download from them.
I do share some of them..should I take them off?? CUZ every damn time it says theres an error and like others it says "no files shared" but i know they have files? why can i not view anyone hardley?

sparsely
12-10-2003, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@9 December 2003 - 11:15
whats wrong with dbpoweramp sparsely?
nothing.

and AOL is a great ISP.

the_faceman
12-10-2003, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@8 December 2003 - 01:40
Oh ok, thanks.

Also..the ones I ripped of WMP sound GREATTTTT http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/FFK/pdSTFFK0001.jpgand are only like 2MB a song...They sound better then like 192Bitrate..whats up with that?
and


Amen lol Ok but everyone acts like the WMA is shit..but everything Ive ripped from there that is variable bitrate, or even 64bitrate sounds SO much better then 192bitrate MP3 that I get off of souldseek...whats up with that?

sorry, the last statement is bollocks. although a 64kbps WMA probably sounds better than a 64kbps MP3, there is no way that it sounds better than a 192kbps MP3. Unless of course, you love the sound of a stereo when you bubble-wrap the speakers and tune in to the radio.

the general consensus is that mp3 = good. wma = bad. there are other,more efficient audio codecs developed now, but it&#39;ll take a long time before they surpass the popularity of mp3.

the end.

bigdawgfoxx
12-10-2003, 03:10 AM
Ok..dbpoweramp uses lame and it sounds great...so im not listening to u. and yeah...my 64bitrate sounds a lot better then my 192bitrate MP3...i duno it just does..get on soulseek and download some of my wma which are small and u will see how good they sound.

sparsely
12-10-2003, 05:21 AM
that&#39;s the sound of bill gates orgasming on your music collection.

Gutter
12-10-2003, 08:34 AM
if you dont like DB try FreeRip

Your the first person I&#39;ve seen who likes (or maybe loves) WMA

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
12-10-2003, 01:21 PM
:) Now this is a good Thread for MusicWorld.Nice Debating.

bigdawgfoxx
12-10-2003, 01:53 PM
Yah and I started it...haha. Newayz I dont love it im just saying it sounds GREAT to me and was wondering why noone likes it..but all I share is MP3. I still dont know why you have a problem with DBpoweramp...is something wrong with it? or is there a better free ripper?

sparsely
12-11-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by foxydogbone or whatever...

is there a better free ripper?

E

A

C

:D

summerlinda
12-11-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@10 December 2003 - 05:10
Ok..dbpoweramp uses lame and it sounds great...so im not listening to u. and yeah...my 64bitrate sounds a lot better then my 192bitrate MP3...i duno it just does..get on soulseek and download some of my wma which are small and u will see how good they sound.
Did you listen to the exact same album? In MP3 192 and WMA 64?

Or were you listening to a 2003 rip through 64 k WMA and a 1973 rip through 192 k MP3? Because in that case you could be right.

Some old cd&#39;s do sound bad [the original] and you cant make em sound better. [unless they are remastered but even then]

So try listening to the exact same album in both formats when you want to compare. Use good speakers as well, most pc speakers are crap.

If you still say 64 k WMA sounds better then 192 k MP3 i give up on you :P

[sorry if this has been discussed before, i didnt read the whole topic]

bigdawgfoxx
12-11-2003, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Sparsely+10 December 2003 - 18:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sparsely @ 10 December 2003 - 18:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-foxydogbone or whatever...

is there a better free ripper?

E

A

C

:D [/b][/quote]
Will EAC rip music and make it sound better then poweramp??? Cuz poweramp is SO easy to use..is EAC also easy?

sparsely
12-11-2003, 08:09 AM
yes (thx 2 secure mode), and yes, once you set it up. ;)

bigdawgfoxx
12-11-2003, 01:43 PM
So secure mode will make it sound better? How much better...cuz I&#39;ve noticed that most of the files im getting off of SLSK that are 192...dont sound as good as the ones I used to get years ago off WinMX at 192...

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
12-11-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx@11 December 2003 - 08:43
So secure mode will make it sound better? How much better...cuz I&#39;ve noticed that most of the files im getting off of SLSK that are 192...dont sound as good as the ones I used to get years ago off WinMX at 192...
:( God I miss WinMX.

:P Do not think they Sound any better though.

bigdawgfoxx
12-11-2003, 06:25 PM
If you miss it, download it again... And I think that the 192 Bitrate files on SLSK dont sound very good really...does EAC make it actually sound better then DBpowerAMP?

Spider_dude
12-11-2003, 07:09 PM
just look at funny craphorns picture, he looks like a fucking degenerate piece of shit you would expect to find at a broken down piss smelling trailer park drunk on some &#036;1 40&#39;s and getting high on a gold can of paint while his fat ass 19 year old wife is watching her soaps back at the trailer and beating their 3 kids."

Fc this is the funniest sig i have ever read. who said this chinaski?

Gutter
12-11-2003, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Spider_dude@11 December 2003 - 11:09
Fc this is the funniest sig i have ever read. who said this chinaski?
i think it was i cant remember the user that said this but they wasted 2 hours of their life typing up some exclamation against members of the KLB

well just a few of us

Spider_dude
12-11-2003, 07:34 PM
here are the lyrics you requested. cos the link i gave you was pop up heaven.


Her voice is echoed in my mind
I count the days till she is mine
Canat tell my friends cos they will laugh
I love a member of the staff

I fight my way to front of class
To get the best view of her ass
I drop a pencil on the floor
She bends down and shows me morea.

Thatas what I go to school for
Even though it is a real bore
You can call me crazy
I know that she craves me
Thatas what I go to school for
Even though it is a real bore
Girlfriends Iave had plenty
None like Miss Mackenzie
Thatas what I go to school for
Thatas what I go to school for

So she may be thirty - three
But that doesnat bother me
Her boyfriends working out of town
I find a reason to go round

I climb a tree outside her home
To make sure she is all alone
I see her in her underwear
I canat help but stop and stare

Everyone that u teach all day knows your looking at me in a different way
I guess thats why my marks are getting so high
I can see those tell tale signs telling me that I was on your mind
I could see that you want it more when you told me that Iam what you go to school for
Iam what you go to school for

Sheas packed her bag its in the trunk
Looks like sheas picked herself a hunk
We drive past school to say goodbye
My friends they canat believe their eyesa.

Gutter
12-11-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Spider_dude@11 December 2003 - 11:34
here are the lyrics you requested. cos the link i gave you was pop up heaven.

k thanks

http://www.submarinesailor.com/History/Images/FUNNY%20MONEY.gif

Gutter
12-11-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by bigdawgfoxx+9 December 2003 - 12:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigdawgfoxx @ 9 December 2003 - 12:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spider_dude@9 December 2003 - 07:41
if you share wma on slsk, no one will download from you or let you download from them.
I do share some of them..should I take them off?? CUZ every damn time it says theres an error and like others it says "no files shared" but i know they have files? why can i not view anyone hardley? [/b][/quote]
how many uploads have you been getting big dog?

bigdawgfoxx
12-11-2003, 09:20 PM
lots

bigdawgfoxx
12-12-2003, 01:36 AM
Ok seriously..I just added the Trapt CD that i downloaded...I also have the song Headstrong...separate from the CD I downloaded..the one I downloaded seperatly sounds SOO much better then the one with the cd..there both 192

The one that sounds SO much better was encoded by Xing. The other ones were by Lame 3.91. Lame stuff doesnt sound great to me..whats going on? sorry i just dont know anything about ripping lol. Well i know how to do it.

sparsely
12-12-2003, 05:18 AM
Get on eMule or something and download from people who encode properly. :rolleyes:

bigdawgfoxx
12-12-2003, 01:28 PM
Do they have better stuff..cuz i never can get emule to download nething..it always says waiting.

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
12-12-2003, 01:33 PM
;) We are getting this shit for free.If it sounds good to you keep it.Forget what somebody else says.

bigdawgfoxx
12-12-2003, 01:47 PM
Well Emule is free also..so if it sounds better then ya know..ill go for it lol..it just doesnt make any sense to me why it would sound better

Gutter
12-17-2003, 03:34 PM
http://www.sighost.us/members/bigdawgfoxx/My%20Money.jpg

&#036;320?