Systematically Forcing Kl++ Out Of Network

[BawA]

K-Lite users were reporting business as usual at 9:20 am Pacific Time.
"This is a gradual process," Slyck's Tom Mennecke told p2pnet. "It'll be at least a few weeks before the breakdown is complete."
Back to the Slyck report, "A representative of Sharman Networks spoke to us on the condition of anonymity regarding their current campaign to vanquish Kazaa Lite K++," it says. "Not only has Sharman Networks succeeded in eliminating nearly every major resource of Kazaa Lite K++, they are systematically forcing it off the network. How you ask?
"Recent upgrades to Kazaa clients (2.5 and higher) make them less tolerant with outdated or non official clients such as Kazaa Lite K++. Kazaa Lite is based on a version prior to 2.5, therefore a current supernode will not accept its shares. Although this will cause network headaches in terms of traffic, the client will not be able to participate or download off the main FastTrack network. This will effectively cluster and isolate all modified Kazaa clients from FastTrack.
"Well, won't Kazaa Lite clients simply form their own sub-FastTrack network?
"Sounds nice, but no. Unfortunately, the developers of Kazaa Lite helped Sharman out tremendously by disabling the supernode function. Very few users who run this client are acting as supernodes. A decentralized P2P network with all clients and no supernodes cannot exist. The effects of this extermination is already taking place, as search times and connection times are deteriorating compared to K+ (the legitimate spyware/adware free version of Kazaa.)
"As time progresses, the Kazaa Lite K++ client will become so unusable that its populace will be driven off the network. This latest act from Sharman punctuates a long history of hypocrisy that involves the protection of their own intellectual property rights, yet blatantly ignoring the copyrights of others."

[asmithz]

:angry:

[VB]

KL 2.10 has an option to set the version number in the registry. Just set that to 260. I don't think that option is in newer versions, you'll have to ask random nut.

[BawA]

here's paul with another way to screw ShareMan :lol:
;)

[chuckv64]

Originally posted by Paul@8 December 2003 - 13:55
KL 2.10 has an option to set the version number in the registry. Just set that to 260. I don't think that option is in newer versions, you'll have to ask random nut.
I am not finding that option in 2.10 Any help please?

[VB]

It's all randoms brilliance.

[darkmaster]

sad to hear :unsure: :'(

Really get angry for this :blink: :angry: :ph34r: :pirate:


:flame:

[Virtualbody1234]

the developers of Kazaa Lite helped Sharman out tremendously by disabling the supernode function. Very few users who run this client are acting as supernodes.

Maybe we have to release a version of K++ set for acting as a supernode.

[toricotesla]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@8 December 2003 - 12:25
:angry:
Some clever programmer will create another lite version and put it on
p2p networks i hope

ps anyone no whats happend to zeropaid.com or are they just updateing the site

sorry about the spelling

[james_bond_rulez]

that&#39;s why everything should be open sourced.... <_<

[Dale]

i am now a supernode :D

[Shadowness]

Originally posted by Paul@8 December 2003 - 13:55
KL 2.10 has an option to set the version number in the registry. Just set that to 260. I don&#39;t think that option is in newer versions, you&#39;ll have to ask random nut.
how do we do that though?

[kAb]

Originally posted by Paul@8 December 2003 - 06:55
KL 2.10 has an option to set the version number in the registry. Just set that to 260. I don&#39;t think that option is in newer versions, you&#39;ll have to ask random nut.
Which version of 2.10? There are 3.. :huh:

[imnotanaddict]

Originally posted by kAb+9 December 2003 - 06:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kAb @ 9 December 2003 - 06:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Paul@8 December 2003 - 06:55
KL 2.10 has an option to set the version number in the registry. Just set that to 260. I don&#39;t think that option is in newer versions, you&#39;ll have to ask random nut.
Which version of 2.10? There are 3.. :huh: [/b][/quote]
SO far I&#39;ve tried 1 and 3. Will now try 2.

[Schmiggy_JK23]

bawa, thanks for reposting news i posted a whole 3 hours before you... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The news (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=86673)

[atiVidia]

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE&#092;SOFTWARE&#092;K++

"K++ Version"=dword:02400000

in version 2.40, this is the registry value you are looking for.


change it to:

"K++ Version"=dword:02600000


i assume everyone here is smart enuf to change registry entries
if not, PM me and i will send u the reg file

[true_neo]

I dont find that in 2.4.3
dont tell me that my fanatic need to have the latest software has kicked me in the ass.... :angry:

[atiVidia]

i can host the older version if i can find its install file...

[wibbletastic]

So if everyone using K-Lite enables the supernode functionality will we be able to carry on... think I&#39;ll experiment by asking people who download from me to turn it on.

[random nut]

Originally posted by atiVidia@9 December 2003 - 13:35
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE&#092;SOFTWARE&#092;K++

"K++ Version"=dword:02400000
That has nothing to do with the Kazaa GUI version number. Changing it changes nothing. ;)

[imnotanaddict]

Originally posted by Paul@8 December 2003 - 13:55
KL 2.10 has an option to set the version number in the registry. Just set that to 260. I don&#39;t think that option is in newer versions, you&#39;ll have to ask random nut.
random nut is this possible?

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by atiVidia@9 December 2003 - 11:57
i can host the older version if i can find its install file...
Try www.oldversion.com (http://www.oldversion.com) ;)

[Switeck]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@8 December 2003 - 10:11

the developers of Kazaa Lite helped Sharman out tremendously by disabling the supernode function. Very few users who run this client are acting as supernodes.

Maybe we have to release a version of K++ set for acting as a supernode.
Only a SMALL number of people need to be supernodes to maintain the network. It may only need to be 1 out of 100, because supernodes maintain 100+ nodes each.

We want GOOD supernodes, because as the case proves for the last few months...
BAD supernodes are hard on EVERYONE&#33;

I think it was probably a bad move to always disable becoming a supernode by default -- it may have been 1 thing that forced Kazaa&#39;s hand, because the kinds of search traffic KL++ can generate with ASM enabled can be intense. If KL++ never (or only very seldom) becomes a supernode, it&#39;s a PURE LEECH as far as the network traffic is concerned.

Supernodes may be burning as much as 50 KB/sec down and 20 KB/sec up from all the network traffic. It&#39;s probably about 10 KB/sec down and 5 KB/sec up on average -- which is about as much as a low-end broadband connection can sustain constantly. (Note: SUSTAIN CONSTANTLY is something entirely different than peak bandwidth which is what the connection is rated for. A connection may be able to download at 300 KB/sec peak but only sustain ~50 KB/sec over the course of a day.)

[d3v1l]

i turned my supernood setting on and ill leave k-lite on during the day. :D

[iMartin]

Stupid f :censored: ing spoiled Sharman...instead of worrieing about the truely bad things going around such as *i.e. child porn* all they care about it their money. Same goes for the RIAA...damn I&#39;m unbelivebly pissed right now...So does this mean the end of K-Lite K++...? :cry1:

[abu_has_the_power]

damn sharman netowrks. but then again, without them, we&#39;d have no klite. so i&#39;m not totally flipping out at them.

[Jay]

so anyone know the exact time when our k-lite is gonna stop working

[imnotanaddict]

Originally posted by Jay@10 December 2003 - 06:55
so anyone know the exact time when our k-lite is gonna stop working
One of the articals I think said like 4 -6 weeks, anyone with a prior version of 255
would not be able to access their supernodes. Of course any klite user functioning as a supernode we will still be able to access files.

One alternative: click this (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=85816)

[Cotton]

Ive had supernode on for a couple of hours 2day and yesterday, but the thing is i only have 128kb/s upload, and being supernode maxes out my uploads at like 70kb/s constantly.

So ill probably turn it off soon cause people are trying to download and they are gettin only like 5kb/s.

[true_neo]

Well I have force SN on, and I saw the normal "1 user online" shit....

Arent SNs allowed to search? It appeared to be searching MY OWN files only, and if I had the file I wanted, why the hell would I try to search in kazaa.... :angry: :rolleyes:
So can ppl tell me if there is some trick to letting SN search?

[Rat Faced]

Jump supernodes a couple of times.

[true_neo]

I jumped SN 10 times.
I can download all right, just not search..... :angry:

All I do is disable SN when Im gonna search (which aint often anymore), but it still isnt preferred... :angry:

[BawA]

i had same problem and i did this:
if u can search ur file only then try to seach something u dont have and then ull see the windows blinks, it happens when suprnodes r jumping so after that ull get every thing in ur search result

[guit_steel]

Personally, I haven&#39;t used KL as my primary download for some time b/c the selection seemed more limited than on other networks — I&#39;m not much into mp3s or the latest movie. I do, however, feel some loyalty to the system b/c they were my introduction into p2p and I always reserve some bandwidth to enable uploads, especially of files that I know r hard to find on FT.

I&#39;ve just checked in here to get the skinny on the KL ++ feud. Everyone&#39;s temp hope seems to be supernodes. I enabled my supernode function [Advanced options] to prolong the network, do I still have to force being a supernode [K++ Advanced options]? BTW: I&#39;m running v. 2.4.2

Thanx.

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by guit_steel@10 December 2003 - 16:24
Personally, I haven&#39;t used KL as my primary download for some time b/c the selection seemed more limited than on other networks — I&#39;m not much into mp3s or the latest movie. I do, however, feel some loyalty to the system b/c they were my introduction into p2p and I always reserve some bandwidth to enable uploads, especially of files that I know r hard to find on FT.

I&#39;ve just checked in here to get the skinny on the KL ++ feud. Everyone&#39;s temp hope seems to be supernodes. I enabled my supernode function [Advanced options] to prolong the network, do I still have to force being a supernode [K++ Advanced options]? BTW: I&#39;m running v. 2.4.2

Thanx.
If you do force supernode, guit_steel, you will definitely act as a supernode...

[Switeck]

Let&#39;s go 1 step further:

IF we have special KL++ supernodes, we can ALSO block certain ips (read probable RIAA trackers) from directly connecting to them&#33;
This will cut THEIR ability to search the network and EAT lots of bandwidth doing it CONSIDERABLY&#33;

We could probably even figure out which ips are possibly hostile by monitoring THEIR bandwidth useage while connected to our supernode/s. If 1 node is using 5 KB/sec bandwidth by itself running searches... it&#39;s either a KL++ user who left ASM going overnight or it&#39;s one of the copyright monitoring groups...

[guit_steel]

While at my computer, I have been cancelling all uploads that r not coming from a KL user and sending them a message saying they will not be allowed access to my files as KL is not allowed access to the network. I then tell them to voice their complaints to Sharman, not me.

I know it won&#39;t matter much — especially since my p2p progs are on autopilot most of the time — but if it causes a couple of angry letters to Sharmen, I consider the job done. :P

[true_neo]

Originally posted by bawa@Klite_user@10 December 2003 - 18:03
i had same problem and i did this:
if u can search ur file only then try to seach something u dont have and then ull see the windows blinks, it happens when suprnodes r jumping so after that ull get every thing in ur search result
No, I cant even find my own files. :angry:

Is this a bøg? Im on 2.4.3 btw. :huh:


If someone can solve this for me it be most appreciated. I shall, however, continue to be an SN, simply disabling it when I want to search.
That would be a pain in the royal behind for the ppl connected to me if I went off as SN.

[ugc]

try going here:

http://kppdate.kickme.to/

I have used the update, and I have no problems. Hope it works for all of us.

[alfa1]

That Sharman Group is really pushing us underground now&#33; :(

[Rat Faced]

There is already a CLEAN V2.6 available.

Please be patient ;)

[Virtualbody1234]

Thanks, Rat Faced. That certainly is good news.

[Schmiggy_JK23]

Well thats not klite, but i suppose it work as a last resort if klite is managed to be shut down =/

who makes the clean version btw?

[guit_steel]

It may just be an off night, but the supernode option may not be working. My queue is normally full; in the last three hours I&#39;ve only had one dl.

It&#39;s nice to see that a clean 2.6 is on the way, but I doubt I&#39;ll stay on FT if KL is going down. Like I said, I rarely dl and have only reserved upload bandwidth for months out of loyalty to KL. Why should I stay and keep pumping hard to find files inro FT? Screw Sharman; I&#39;m not going to help their bottom line&#33; :angry:

[imported_uncle_cracker]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@11 December 2003 - 03:08
There is already a CLEAN V2.6 available.

Please be patient ;)
:unsure:

@rf: can you please give me more infos about this clean version?

btw: i am running win98se

why i am asking: i wasn&#39;t here sine the last 6 months, and you can imagine, that all these NEWS are hardly to understand for me :lol:

nice to meet you ... i am back again

cu uncle_cracker

[guit_steel]

No, I cant even find my own files.&nbsp;

Is this a bøg? Im on 2.4.3 btw.&nbsp;


If someone can solve this for me it be most appreciated. I shall, however, continue to be an SN, simply disabling it when I want to search.
That would be a pain in the royal behind for the ppl connected to me if I went off as SN.

Everything was fine for me last night. I had to disconnect to get some work done this morning but when I ran KL I am listed as the only user in my node. Is there any point in being a node if I&#39;m the only one listed?

BTW: I installed the KL Update yesterday, so that&#39;s not the problem.

Thanx.

[BawA]

it happens with too many time&#39;s and its fine keep like that for few min/hrs and if didnt work try to jump suprnode

[guit_steel]

Already tried jumping nodes. I&#39;ll just let it run for a few hours and see if any users are picked up.