Illuminati
12-08-2003, 06:14 PM
There's been a call out from P2P politics site TheBigHack (http://www.thebighack.com) to all the popular P2P communities that are out there. Some of the ones named include Gnutella, ES5...and Kazaa Lite.
TBH & ES5 have had their own feud (can ES5 not fight anyone? ;)) but members from each have agreed to put aside their differences for this. Considering the recent tragedy on our home soil, I'd have said that we can't afford to be picky on this.
This is not a pure K-Lite board and has always been more of a general filesharing board - Let's act like it.
I'll leave the rest of this post to the article, but one last thing - They only want a few good people to help out. It's your own personal choice if you help out, not the community's ;)
SOURCE - http://www.thebighack.com/modules.php?op=m...order=0&thold=0 (http://www.thebighack.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=173&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0)
Originally posted by TheBigHack
Im sick of this sabotage shit. Im calling for a p2p allience.
As usual, I am working at after 2 am in the morning, going over code that has changed the second it leaves my internal network. I don’t know who and I don’t know how, but I do know that if this ever gets done allot of rich fucktards will lose everything, so I’m not surprised at the sabotage I am hearing as I go through the code and for the 15th time since I started working on OFF, add bits of code someone sniped out, or edit lines that have been edited in a attempt to destroy my work.
I’m sick of it; I even set up a secure server on my internal network for code dev, but once it leaves the safety of my network it seems to suddenly break.. and when I get the copies back I get pages of data from 'diff', as everything has changed.. and when I check, sure enough 'rb' becomes 'r', '<' becomes '>' and ')))' becomes '))'.. and that’s not the full extent of it.
So far tonight I have heard many more instances of fuzzy logic then I would care to admit, and much of what I have been told doesn’t make sense to my years of experience, other then somone out there, maybe even a group of people, are activly working to make sure OFF is never done.
The only thing I’m really sure of now is that I know allot of people want this done, and I know a few very powerful people do not want it done.. so it seems to me that if development was done not just with me, but with many others, it would get done faster... not to mention that once it hits the open source community it will be impossible to destroy it.
The problem is simple; We don’t have the manpower we need, I’m understaffed and my ears hurt all the time from listening to code I cant see: So I ask you the people of kazza light, gnutella, yes even es5, and all the rest of you p2p sites to prove you are friends of p2p and send me at least one developer/helper I can check the creds of who knows php to help; If you don’t, then I will know in my heart that your site is not really for p2p freedom.. the sites that do send help to get this mit licensed project out there (that’s right OFF is open source) will be the ones to get the respect they deserve.. the ones who don’t will be seen by the public as what they really are, posers and users of the p2p community for there own ends and not the community at large as they should be.
The sites that send developers to get this info out there will be listed as they come, I will personally post a front page news story about it to let people know that the site in question is not just a poser.. and I will be very harsh on the sites that do not join the alliance as it only shows there true intentions.
I'm waiting.. and not knowing of this is not a valid excuse for not joining, we get about 2000 hits a day, mostly from p2p sites around the world so I know this will get out there; I figure its either this or keep recoding OFF every single day, I have done it so many times now I’m starting to get sick at the thought of it.. If I have to do it too many more times... I may just not.
So if you don’t own a p2p site, let the people you respect who do know of this.. if you do own a p2p site, you need to join up before your compition in the p2p world does, and no matter what you need to remember that we are are all on the side of p2p, even if our motives are different.
So prove it.. not to me, but the world and the >2k hits a day that are watching this site.
TBH & ES5 have had their own feud (can ES5 not fight anyone? ;)) but members from each have agreed to put aside their differences for this. Considering the recent tragedy on our home soil, I'd have said that we can't afford to be picky on this.
This is not a pure K-Lite board and has always been more of a general filesharing board - Let's act like it.
I'll leave the rest of this post to the article, but one last thing - They only want a few good people to help out. It's your own personal choice if you help out, not the community's ;)
SOURCE - http://www.thebighack.com/modules.php?op=m...order=0&thold=0 (http://www.thebighack.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=173&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0)
Originally posted by TheBigHack
Im sick of this sabotage shit. Im calling for a p2p allience.
As usual, I am working at after 2 am in the morning, going over code that has changed the second it leaves my internal network. I don’t know who and I don’t know how, but I do know that if this ever gets done allot of rich fucktards will lose everything, so I’m not surprised at the sabotage I am hearing as I go through the code and for the 15th time since I started working on OFF, add bits of code someone sniped out, or edit lines that have been edited in a attempt to destroy my work.
I’m sick of it; I even set up a secure server on my internal network for code dev, but once it leaves the safety of my network it seems to suddenly break.. and when I get the copies back I get pages of data from 'diff', as everything has changed.. and when I check, sure enough 'rb' becomes 'r', '<' becomes '>' and ')))' becomes '))'.. and that’s not the full extent of it.
So far tonight I have heard many more instances of fuzzy logic then I would care to admit, and much of what I have been told doesn’t make sense to my years of experience, other then somone out there, maybe even a group of people, are activly working to make sure OFF is never done.
The only thing I’m really sure of now is that I know allot of people want this done, and I know a few very powerful people do not want it done.. so it seems to me that if development was done not just with me, but with many others, it would get done faster... not to mention that once it hits the open source community it will be impossible to destroy it.
The problem is simple; We don’t have the manpower we need, I’m understaffed and my ears hurt all the time from listening to code I cant see: So I ask you the people of kazza light, gnutella, yes even es5, and all the rest of you p2p sites to prove you are friends of p2p and send me at least one developer/helper I can check the creds of who knows php to help; If you don’t, then I will know in my heart that your site is not really for p2p freedom.. the sites that do send help to get this mit licensed project out there (that’s right OFF is open source) will be the ones to get the respect they deserve.. the ones who don’t will be seen by the public as what they really are, posers and users of the p2p community for there own ends and not the community at large as they should be.
The sites that send developers to get this info out there will be listed as they come, I will personally post a front page news story about it to let people know that the site in question is not just a poser.. and I will be very harsh on the sites that do not join the alliance as it only shows there true intentions.
I'm waiting.. and not knowing of this is not a valid excuse for not joining, we get about 2000 hits a day, mostly from p2p sites around the world so I know this will get out there; I figure its either this or keep recoding OFF every single day, I have done it so many times now I’m starting to get sick at the thought of it.. If I have to do it too many more times... I may just not.
So if you don’t own a p2p site, let the people you respect who do know of this.. if you do own a p2p site, you need to join up before your compition in the p2p world does, and no matter what you need to remember that we are are all on the side of p2p, even if our motives are different.
So prove it.. not to me, but the world and the >2k hits a day that are watching this site.