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[xbballplaya223x]

I have a poetry slam tomorrow at school. The assingment is to choose a poem, give background on the authour, read the poem aloud in front of the class, and say what the poem symbolizes/means. Well I choose the poem and found out about the author. Could you please find out what the poem symbolizes/means
heres the poem

SONNET XXIX

When, in disgrace with Fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess'd,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
(Like to the lark at break of day arising)
From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven's gate;
For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.

William Shakespeare

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:36
I have a poetry slam tomorrow at school. The assingment is to choose a poem, give background on the authour, read the poem aloud in front of the class, and say what the poem symbolizes/means. Well I choose the poem and found out about the author. Could you please find out what the poem symbolizes/means
heres the poem

SONNET XXIX

When, in disgrace with Fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess'd,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
(Like to the lark at break of day arising)
From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven's gate;
For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.

William Shakespeare
I think it's referring to plagiarism!

[xbballplaya223x]

No! You have to choose a "FAMOUS POEM" and write about it. how is that plagerisim

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:44
No! You have to choose a "FAMOUS POEM" and write about it. how is that plagerisim
I was referring to the symbolism.

[xbballplaya223x]

forget the shakesphere one and help me find out what this poem means/symbolizes

SILVER

Slowly, silently, now the moon
Walks the night in her silver shoon;
This way, and that, she peers, and sees
Silver fruit upon silver trees;
One by one the casements catch
Her beams beneath the silvery thatch;
Couched in his kennel, like a log,
With paws of silver sleeps the dog;
From their shadowy cope the white beats peep
Of doves in a silver-feathered sleep;
A harvest mouse goes scampering by,
With silver claws and a silver eye;
And moveless fish in the water gleam,
By silver reeds in a silver stream.

Walter De La Mare

[xbballplaya223x]

Originally posted by nigel123+9 December 2003 - 00:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 9 December 2003 - 00:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:44
No&#33; You have to choose a "FAMOUS POEM" and write about it. how is that plagerisim
I was referring to the symbolism. [/b][/quote]
lol sorry help me interperate the other poem by walter de la mare

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:46
forget the shakesphere one and help me find out what this poem means/symbolizes

SILVER

Slowly, silently, now the moon
Walks the night in her silver shoon;
This way, and that, she peers, and sees
Silver fruit upon silver trees;
One by one the casements catch
Her beams beneath the silvery thatch;
Couched in his kennel, like a log,
With paws of silver sleeps the dog;
From their shadowy cope the white beats peep
Of doves in a silver-feathered sleep;
A harvest mouse goes scampering by,
With silver claws and a silver eye;
And moveless fish in the water gleam,
By silver reeds in a silver stream.
To be honest poems are beyond my capacity...but you could ask J&#39;Pol, he is a poet... a warrior poet.

edit: I do like your avatar, by the way...

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by nigel123+9 December 2003 - 01:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 9 December 2003 - 01:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:36
I have a poetry slam tomorrow at school. The assingment is to choose a poem, give background on the authour, read the poem aloud in front of the class, and say what the poem symbolizes/means.&nbsp; Well I choose the poem and found out about the author. Could you please find out what the poem symbolizes/means
heres the poem

SONNET XXIX

When, in disgrace with Fortune and men&#39;s eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess&#39;d,
Desiring this man&#39;s art, and that man&#39;s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
(Like to the lark at break of day arising)
From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven&#39;s gate;
For thy sweet love remember&#39;d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.

William Shakespeare
I think it&#39;s referring to plagiarism&#33; [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Really laughing out loud nigel. Thanks for that.

"interperate" it yourself, you&#39;re the one who writes extended metaphor poetry, nob.

[lynx]

It&#39;s basically about how everything loses its colour (or rather the colours can&#39;t be seen) and what can be seen appears silver when bathed in moonlight.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 01:36
My take

SONNET XXIX

When, in disgrace with Fortune and men&#39;s eyes,
When I am down on my luck and looked down upon by others

I all alone beweep my outcast state,
I wallow alone in self pity

And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And pray for help to a God who is not listening

And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess&#39;d,
Desiring this man&#39;s art, and that man&#39;s scope,
I feel sorry for myself and desire what others have

With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
no clue

Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
(Like to the lark at break of day arising)
From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven&#39;s gate;
For thy sweet love remember&#39;d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.
Then I think of you, my beloved, and remember how fortunate I am

William Shakespeare


The overall gist is that when he is feeling low he thinks of the woman he loves and is restored.

Tell your teacher that the author of the sonnet was sucking up to his wife because he wanted a little pussy.

[xbballplaya223x]

thank you for the help everyone. I was thinking the same thing for the silver too. Everything thing loooses color( or colour as they call it outside the US) but everything is silver under the moon

[clocker]

This is merely a homework assignment.
Is the teacher trying to make it more exciting by dressing it up as a "poetry slam"?

I would go with the Shakespeare and Hobbes&#39;s explanation.
That should liven things up a bit.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 01:57
thank you for the help everyone. I was thinking the same thing for the silver too. Everything thing loooses color( or colour as they call it outside the US) but everything is silver under the moon
You really feel it is so prosaic, as to be about the fact that the human eye has monochrome vision under certain conditions.

Oh well, go for that then. At least it&#39;s better than stealing the ideas / work of others and claiming them as your own. A step in the right direction methinks.

[lynx]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+9 December 2003 - 00:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 9 December 2003 - 00:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 01:57
thank you for the help everyone. I was thinking the same thing for the silver too. Everything thing loooses color( or colour as they call it outside the US) but everything is silver under the moon
You really feel it is so prosaic, as to be about the fact that the human eye has monochrome vision under certain conditions.

Oh well, go for that then. At least it&#39;s better than stealing the ideas / work of others and claiming them as your own. A step in the right direction methinks. [/b][/quote]
The subject matter of the poem is a little basic.

But as with many things, "it ain&#39;t what you say, it&#39;s the way that you say it".

[xbballplaya223x]

Originally posted by clocker@9 December 2003 - 01:01
This is merely a homework assignment.
Is the teacher trying to make it more exciting by dressing it up as a "poetry slam"?

I would go with the Shakespeare and Hobbes&#39;s explanation.
That should liven things up a bit.
it is worth 2 test grades lol. You could choose a few more things for the assingment lile sing in front of the class or write a poem yourself

[clocker]

What has modern education come to when a simple assignment is worth two test scores?
Do you also get credit for maintaining a pulse?

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by clocker@9 December 2003 - 02:08
What has modern education come to when a simple assignment is worth two test scores?
Do you also get credit for maintaining a pulse?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Does it have to be your own pulse.

[clocker]

That would be for the advanced placement students.

They are going on to pre-med.

All others proceed directly to "Would You Like Fries With That" 101 and thence, 102.

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by clocker@9 December 2003 - 02:17
That would be for the advanced placement students.

They are going on to pre-med.

All others proceed directly to "Would You Like Fries With That" 101 and thence, 102.
That&#39;s harsh - Damn harsh.

[clocker]

You think?

I didn&#39;t even mention "Remedial Would You Like Fries With That"...