View Full Version : Copying Cd's To Hd

02-15-2003, 11:37 AM
Hiya Dudes and Dudettes,
I have noticed that copying files from one folder to another folder on the same partition goes very quickly. Just a few seconds in fact. BUT, copying between partitions takes a lot longer. This same problem occurs whenever copying files from CD to a HD folder. Is there any way to cut down the time it takes to copy from CD to HD. In my case, it takes between 5 - 8 minutes for a normal 700MB CD. This might not seem so long, but when you are copying 10 - 20 CD's, then we are talking about 1 - 2 hours total!!

Is there a way to maybe increase cache or something?

My OS is XP-Pro and i have 328MB RAM. My CD is BenQ 24x10x40.


02-15-2003, 11:39 AM
5-8 minutes is normal time for me,were talking about alot of data!

vivitron 15
02-15-2003, 12:47 PM
i think, but may be wrong that copying from one partition to the other is just like redirecting a link in this forum, not really moving it as such, but when you move between partitions, its like putting it onto a completely different HDD, so is slower. thaats not bad time you reported.

to simplify it, i put my downloads onto my video partition, so that i don'thave to move em, once they're there. i only have to move mp3s which are smaller and easier to move.

02-15-2003, 12:58 PM
Absolutely Right Vivitron 15!

A copy or movement to another partition is a Actual movement!
To the same partition is just a redirection to another path!

02-15-2003, 01:31 PM
What you need is another hard drive- Hard disk 1 / IdE1 = Windows and your main programs and your writer Hard drive 2 / IDE2 your music or dvds.. Its all to do with read write activity/Cache etc. I have 2 60g maxtor super diamonds and this worked a treat for my home studio.. Hope this helps..

02-15-2003, 02:42 PM
He actually was asking if there was any way to speed up CD-ROM speeds. Win98/ME CD cache is changable, XP is not.

02-15-2003, 08:29 PM
Simple, moving data from a CD to your HD has more to do with your CD-rom than the rest of your hardware or the OS. If you have an older CD-rom it's probably only reading at 2, 4, or possibly 8x. Anything purchased in the last year has a read speed of 24x or better. Mine reads at 50x.
You have (way)more than enough memory so tweaking your virtual memory will have no noticeable affect. Shutdown any and all programs you can as these take clock cycles away from your processor.
A new hardrive runnning higher RPMs(7200 vs. 5400) will speed things up. But frankly the difference will probably be negligible.
Hope that helps...

02-15-2003, 11:13 PM
harrycary is correct UKMan, it's down to the read speed of ya CD drive mate. No easy way except get a faster drive methinks. I still use an old one and yes, I often get frustrated when doing anything in bulk, but I'm too tight to buy a new one :lol:

02-16-2003, 07:08 AM
But his drive is 40x read. That's already pretty fast.

02-16-2003, 01:24 PM
Just an Idea...
You could also try defragging. That might help a bit.

Junior Member!! :D

02-20-2003, 05:24 AM
I also have this prob with My 52x Sony CD-rom drive......I use CD-DA Extractor to rip my cd's. It will rip at 4-6x with that drive. BUT I also have a Yamaha 16x10x40 and it rips at 10-14x with that drive. I don't know why but it's consistently faster. with every cd.

02-20-2003, 07:38 AM
Ripping slower ensures better quality rips...
the only ripper you should use is Exact Audio Copy. It's not as fast as others but it uses a secure mode to create an exact copy. That way it won't sound like shit. snap,crackle, pop mp3's...

02-20-2003, 08:38 AM
The reason your burner rips faster then your reader is because the most Burners work a bit better because of thier technology in the DAE (Digital Audio Extratraction) area.

BTW. If you harddrive is slow when uploading from a CD i suggest you use Nero CD Speed to check what speed it is actually running.

BenQ formally Acer a rather well known for having rather dodgy speeds when it comes to CD-Roms

(eg. says 50x runs at 8x)

02-20-2003, 09:57 AM
I had that prob. with the cd reader. I just reloaded the driver on the device manager.

I have winXp home, if it helps try to rollback your ide and disk controllers.
They will reconfigure back to spec. (hopefuly)

02-20-2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by njs12345@16 February 2003 - 14:24
Just an Idea...
You could also try defragging. That might help a bit.
Defragging was and still is called 'speed-up' with many software titles (such as norton) but with the power and speed of todays pcs, defragging a hard-drive does very little.

02-20-2003, 12:30 PM
Well, thx for some of the suggestions. Looks like i am gonna have to accept the fact that it aint so slow after all.

By y'all - keep the peace

02-20-2003, 12:40 PM
No, it's not slow at all, but you just might increase the speed by having the CD drive and HD drive on a separate IDE channels. HD on primary IDE channel and CD on the secondary IDE channel.

But I don't suggest you do just that. I would rather advice you to have the master HD (if you have more than 1) and CD drive on the primary IDE channel and the CD-RW on the secondary IDE channel, especially if you're doing direct (on-the-fly) copying of CDs.

Hell, it takes me to copy the CD to HD about 18 minutes. :( But my CD drive is old, TEAC 32x, and I haven't cleaned my system for a long time.


02-20-2003, 12:46 PM
Looks to me you have memory-problems (328MB?)
Are your memmodules really compatible >>check with benchmarktool
for example sisoftsandra.
Meanwhile get a free-memorytool I myself use Rampage it sits in systray
and by doubleclicking it you free up extra memory(can also be automated)
On Tucows you can find many such proggies as freeware. ;)

02-20-2003, 01:06 PM
There's not anyway to increase your speed as it smiply down to your hardware not being able to run any faster. If your copying that many cd's a day I would suggest you upgrade some of your hardware. Ideally get a SCSI harddrive 10000rpm and a SCSI 52X CD-Rom, which'll give you a transfer rate ranging from 6750 - 7800 KB/sec across the entire disc. Unfortunatly you'll also have to change your motherboard.

02-26-2003, 04:35 AM
Looks to me you have memory-problems (328MB?)

328MB Ram is more than enough to rip cd's, I don't know what you're talking about.

Ideally get a SCSI harddrive 10000rpm and a SCSI 52X CD-Rom, which'll give you a transfer rate ranging from 6750 - 7800 KB/sec across the entire disc. Unfortunatly you'll also have to change your motherboard.

2 Things wrong with this statement.

1. You don't NEED a new motherboard to set up an SCSI array. A simple SCSI controller card will do the trick. But you also need (expensive) SCSI hard drives.
2. Contrary to popular belief, SCSI hardly has any speed advantages over IDE configurations. Most real-world speed advantages range from 5-10% MAX. Not worth the price of expensive SCSI arrays.

03-02-2003, 12:15 PM
just buy a 52x or 62x cd rom drive and you sorted about 3min and your done.