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-Genesis-
12-10-2003, 01:53 PM
The past few days with all this about K-Lite being shut down and sharmen blocking us is really starting to kick in. I have noticed that only about 3 million people at the most are online at PEAK times. Usually there are around 4 million. :-( If this continues kazaa lite will really be gone. :blink:

I am trying to keep calm about this but Mr G.A.Y. Sharmen may not live the night. :angry:

asmithz
12-10-2003, 02:00 PM
:(

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
12-10-2003, 02:06 PM
;) It is dead.Move on and find a new service.

sharedholder
12-10-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@10 December 2003 - 14:06
;) It is dead.Move on and find a new service.
Is not dead , the people are confused , and if a new K-Lite based on 2.6 comes out you will see is not dead.

Rat Faced
12-10-2003, 02:11 PM
I currently have 5 upload slots.....

4 being filled by K++ users and 1 by fileshare...

Not a kazaa user in site.


:lol: :lol:

-Genesis-
12-10-2003, 02:16 PM
I seriously doubt that a K-Lite 2.6 will appear. I will continue to use kazaa lite until it ceases to function. :)

Also i have used rocko's ad-on tool for kazaa 2.6 and i have successfully removed all of the spyware but still the adverts are in the search window. I could remove these if i could open up kazaa 2.6 with RESOURCE HACKER but it isnt showing the dialogues or the images. has anyone managed to do this yet. If it could be opened in resource hacker it would be very easy to make a compiled installer for 2.6 without the spyware and ads. :blink:


P.s: I see very few users with the FILESHARE prefix...what exactly is fireshare.

sharedholder
12-10-2003, 02:17 PM
The 2.6 will comes out,believe me. :lol:

N£MO
12-10-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by -Genesis-@10 December 2003 - 14:16
I seriously doubt that a K-Lite 2.6 will appear. I will continue to use kazaa lite until it ceases to function. :)

Also i have used rocko's ad-on tool for kazaa 2.6 and i have successfully removed all of the spyware but still the adverts are in the search window. I could remove these if i could open up kazaa 2.6 with RESOURCE HACKER but it isnt showing the dialogues or the images. has anyone managed to do this yet. If it could be opened in resource hacker it would be very easy to make a compiled installer for 2.6 without the spyware and ads. :blink:


P.s: I see very fwe users with the FILESHARE prefix...what exactly is fireshare.
Fileshare are merely Imesh users. ;)

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
12-10-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by sharedholder@10 December 2003 - 09:17
The 2.6 will comes out,believe me. :lol:
:P Your Website will be dead in 2 Months. :P


:lol:

Rappy
12-10-2003, 02:39 PM
i haveing a more problems with kazaa lite than ever even more than i had with kazaa :o this is not good :fear2:

sharedholder
12-10-2003, 02:39 PM
QUOTE (sharedholder @ 10 December 2003 - 09:17)
The 2.6 will comes out,believe me.

QUOTE (FuNkY CaPrIcOrN @ 10 December 2003 - 09:17)
Your Website will be dead in 2 Months.



Depend where is located :lol: :lol:

tracydani
12-10-2003, 02:49 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea for those of us who are member of various forums etc. to pass the word to enable supernode if using k-lite.

I keep seeing people posting things like being connected to mostly k-lite users, if this is true then keeping the nodes alive will keep k-lite alive without kazaa.

TD

thewizeard
12-10-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by tracydani@10 December 2003 - 14:49
Maybe it would be a good idea for those of us who are member of various forums etc. to pass the word to enable supernode if using k-lite.

I keep seeing people posting things like being connected to mostly k-lite users, if this is true then keeping the nodes alive will keep k-lite alive without kazaa.

TD
We could even begin our own network based on K++ supernodes! ;)

guit_steel
12-10-2003, 04:17 PM
Personally, I haven't used KL as my primary download for some time b/c the selection seemed more limited than on other networks — I'm not much into mp3s or the latest movie. I do, however, feel some loyalty to the system b/c they were my introduction into p2p and I always reserve some bandwidth to enable uploads, especially of files that I know r hard to find on FT.

I've just checked in here to get the skinny on the KL ++ feud. Everyone's temp hope seems to be supernodes. I enabled my supernode function [Advanced options] to prolong the network, do I still have to force being a supernode [K++ Advanced options]? BTW: I'm running v. 2.4.2

Thanx.

nostalgia
12-10-2003, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by tracydani@10 December 2003 - 14:49
Maybe it would be a good idea for those of us who are member of various forums etc. to pass the word to enable supernode if using k-lite.

I
Just posted a request (looking for Supernodes; sounds like a jobapplication) on the forum of a big Dutch Computermagazine (ComputerTotaal!).

cosmic doobie
12-10-2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by guit_steel@10 December 2003 - 16:17
do I still have to force being a supernode [K++ Advanced options]? BTW: I'm running v. 2.4.2

Thanx.
Yes you do!
Leave your machine and K-Lite on for the longest you can - every node will make a difference!!

thewizeard
12-10-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by nostalgia+10 December 2003 - 19:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nostalgia @ 10 December 2003 - 19:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-tracydani@10 December 2003 - 14:49
Maybe it would be a good idea for those of us who are member of various forums etc.&nbsp; to pass the word to enable supernode if using k-lite.

I
Just posted a request (looking for Supernodes; sounds like a jobapplication) on the forum of a big Dutch Computermagazine (ComputerTotaal&#33;). [/b][/quote]
Hallo GreatWhite, hoe gaat het met jou? ;)

chuckv64
12-10-2003, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by &#045;Genesis&#045;@10 December 2003 - 14:16
I seriously doubt that a K-Lite 2.6 will appear. I will continue to use kazaa lite until it ceases to function. :)

Also i have used rocko&#39;s ad-on tool for kazaa 2.6 and i have successfully removed all of the spyware but still the adverts are in the search window. I could remove these if i could open up kazaa 2.6 with RESOURCE HACKER but it isnt showing the dialogues or the images. has anyone managed to do this yet. If it could be opened in resource hacker it would be very easy to make a compiled installer for 2.6 without the spyware and ads. :blink:


P.s: I see very few users with the FILESHARE prefix...what exactly is fireshare.
I cant get kazaa 2.6 to install on my computer. Says it detects unofficial kazaa products on the computer. But even if i uninstall klite and clean the registry I still get the same message. Any ideas. I would then reinstall klite afterwards.

Angel Of Destiny
12-11-2003, 05:46 AM
I&#39;m still here :P and will be for a long time

anotheruser
12-11-2003, 06:08 AM
I forced being a supernode and now Kazaa Lite tells me there is one user (me, I would assume) online and only shows the number of files I personally am sharing.

Edit: I should add that I&#39;m using a DSL connection on a fast computer with plenty of RAM. Most of my resources are free.

Alex H
12-11-2003, 06:14 AM
Well, I&#39;m going to make the commitment to force being a supernode for 2 hours a day, everyday. I hope that will help.

Is there any way to "convert" KMD users? Stealing Sharman&#39;s user base would give them a kickup the arse&#33; Are there any official KMD forums or community sites we could recruit from?

nostalgia
12-11-2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by nigel123@10 December 2003 - 22:08
Hallo GreatWhite, hoe gaat het met jou? ;)
Prima, zo zie je maar weer iedereen is overal te herkennen :D

random nut
12-11-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by &#045;Genesis&#045;@10 December 2003 - 15:53
The past few days with all this about K-Lite being shut down and sharmen blocking us is really starting to kick in. I have noticed that only about 3 million people at the most are online at PEAK times. Usually there are around 4 million. :-( If this continues kazaa lite will really be gone. :blink:

I am trying to keep calm about this but Mr G.A.Y. Sharmen may not live the night. :angry:
That&#39;s not why there are hardly anyone using the FT network. I&#39;m using (for testing purposes only) KMD 2.6 w/ klr.exe and I see 2.6 million people online. The reason you see so few FT users nowadays is because people realize that it&#39;s an old network with bad files and the RIAA has succeeded in uploading a lot of fake files. The users started fleeing to other networks, or stopped using p2p programs, a couple of months ago when the RIAA started sueing people.

nuclear hawk
12-11-2003, 08:21 AM
I am not using kazaa lite frequently and I think there are lot of people like me
but I will start using it, even if I don&#39;t need to download something
come on people&#33; This is the best file sharing program I have ever had&#33; This also free from spy/adware&#33; This is the fight for our survival&#33; less words, more action

thewizeard
12-11-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by random nut+11 December 2003 - 08:19--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (random nut @ 11 December 2003 - 08:19)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-&#045;Genesis&#045;@10 December 2003 - 15:53
The past few days with all this about K-Lite being shut down and sharmen blocking us is really starting to kick in. I have noticed that only about 3 million people at the most are online at PEAK times. Usually there are around 4 million. :-( If this continues kazaa lite will really be gone. :blink:

I am trying to keep calm about this but Mr G.A.Y. Sharmen may not live the night. :angry:
That&#39;s not why there are hardly anyone using the FT network. I&#39;m using (for testing purposes only) KMD 2.6 w/ klr.exe and I see 2.6 million people online. The reason you see so few FT users nowadays is because people realize that it&#39;s an old network with bad files and the RIAA has succeeded in uploading a lot of fake files. The users started fleeing to other networks, or stopped using p2p programs, a couple of months ago when the RIAA started sueing people. [/b][/quote]
random_nut, is it possinle to post a link or send a pm, where we can download it? ( for testing purposes only, of course....)

sexxx
12-11-2003, 10:41 AM
Personally I think us klite users should just stop and lets see how many users are left boycot kazaa network and promote the death of kazaa.i already heard someone is making a kazaa supernode killer on irc LoL

random nut
12-11-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by nigel123@11 December 2003 - 12:04
random_nut, is it possinle to post a link or send a pm, where we can download it? ( for testing purposes only, of course....)
I guess you never read the developer section?

Info9
12-11-2003, 11:59 AM
QUOTE (-Genesis- @ 10 December 2003 - 14:16)
I seriously doubt that a K-Lite 2.6 will appear. I will continue to use kazaa lite until it ceases to function.&nbsp;

Also i have used rocko&#39;s ad-on tool for kazaa 2.6 and i have successfully removed all of the spyware but still the adverts are in the search window. I could remove these if i could open up kazaa 2.6 with RESOURCE HACKER but it isnt showing the dialogues or the images. has anyone managed to do this yet. If it could be opened in resource hacker it would be very easy to make a compiled installer for 2.6 without the spyware and ads.


P.s: I see very few users with the FILESHARE prefix...what exactly is fireshare.


I cant get kazaa 2.6 to install on my computer. Says it detects unofficial kazaa products on the computer. But even if i uninstall klite and clean the registry I still get the same message. Any ideas. I would then reinstall klite afterwards.

Have the same problem...Any idea, what I can do?
Thanx in advance

SeK612
12-11-2003, 12:09 PM
Is there anything we can do to force the FT network to accept a K++ v2.4.3 client (I know there is Diet Kazaa and the lite version they were working on in the development section but if we use them all the extra security K++ gives us will be lost - privacy patch etc :()

|)anté
12-11-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by cosmic doobie+10 December 2003 - 21:24--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cosmic doobie @ 10 December 2003 - 21:24)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-guit_steel@10 December 2003 - 16:17
do I still have to force being a supernode [K++ Advanced options]?&nbsp; BTW: I&#39;m running v. 2.4.2

Thanx.
Yes you do&#33;
Leave your machine and K-Lite on for the longest you can - every node will make a difference&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
what does a node do?

RileyF
12-11-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by SeK612@11 December 2003 - 13:09
Is there anything we can do to force the FT network to accept a K++ v2.4.3 client (I know there is Diet Kazaa and the lite version they were working on in the development section but if we use them all the extra security K++ gives us will be lost - privacy patch etc :()
uhm in kazaa 2.6 there&#39;s also an option to hide your files.. they took the idea of us :P but it&#39;s there.. but still 2.6 sucks in comparing to KLK++2.43

Muse
12-11-2003, 09:38 PM
Random Nut sees 2.6 million people online using KMD 2.6

With my K-Lite I haven&#39;t seen less than 3 million. Counting 3,747,701 now (11-10-2003 21:34)

Is there someone there using KMD 2.6 how many users do you see?

Dunno for sure, but I have the the impression that KMD 2.6 somehow reports less users than K-Lite. Makes me wonder if the ban works the other way around.

Ninjastyle
12-11-2003, 09:52 PM
Edit

cosmic doobie
12-11-2003, 09:54 PM
:D
3.7 million during a weekday is pretty healthy i&#39;d say &#33;

wwfc_barmy_army
12-11-2003, 10:01 PM
So will kazaa lite never come back?

Pete.

random nut
12-11-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Muse@11 December 2003 - 23:38
Dunno for sure, but I have the the impression that KMD 2.6 somehow reports less users than K-Lite. Makes me wonder if the ban works the other way around.
2.6 million in the morning, but now there&#39;re approximately 3.8 million people online.

hitokri
12-11-2003, 10:27 PM
Only way klite will come back is if we are able to get a leaked source of KMD 2.6, search for flaws, use those flaws while getting rid of ad-ware, then distribute it anonymously, and those who are stupid enough to claim KMD lite 2.6 is their&#39;s will be arrested&#33;

Muse
12-11-2003, 11:12 PM
Thanks Random Nut.

My theory is proven incorrect.

Does the ban for Kazaa Lite work? Or is this so called ban just Sharman non sense to scare us off? :(

the ftracker
12-12-2003, 08:46 AM
Hi
My computer is working 24x7, at work. During the non-work hours i was enabling klite to be a supernode. From 2 days ago, since i see the requests, i left it as a supernode for all the time.
Now, what does it to my internet connection? is my boss able to see an extra traffic on the line, should i take care about that?
Thanks and help to keep Klite alive
the ftacker

junkyardking
12-12-2003, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by the ftracker@12 December 2003 - 08:46
Hi
My computer is working 24x7, at work. During the non-work hours i was enabling klite to be a supernode. From 2 days ago, since i see the requests, i left it as a supernode for all the time.
Now, what does it to my internet connection? is my boss able to see an extra traffic on the line, should i take care about that?
Thanks and help to keep Klite alive
the ftacker
If the place you work at has compentent network admin they should be able to detect the traffic without it being a supernode, most work places already block p2p traffic and being a supernode only increases the traffic.

I suppose its up to you if you want to run p2p on work computers but if your job is important to you personaly i think its not worth the risk of losing it just to share some files.

the ftracker
12-12-2003, 01:47 PM
I know they get alerts from time to time when the line is VERY busy. About 500 ppl working there but only 10 stations are "free" internet stations with "free" surfing..(1 of them is mine:))...
Anyway, thanks for your honest reply.
Have a great weekend
the ftracker

model-behavior
12-12-2003, 04:32 PM
You people are killing me. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way Kazaa Lite is operating. Check your installations and Help manuals. LOL.

As far as Kazaa blocking Kazaa Lite users I tend to doubt it, let me tell you a little story.

Once upon a time I was a site moderator for the old GeoCities. We were given weekly instructions on which new guidelines and rules to follow and based upon those guidelines we had to fill out flowcharts for about 600 sites per moderator. We were told to mark sites for closing which contained pornography, pornographic links, copyright infringements, or sites which were being used solely for file storage. We worked like dogs without compensation and perhaps only 1 site in every 10,000 was closed (if that) - usually based on porn. Most of us walked away from GeoCities in disgust. Why didn&#39;t the GeoCities management ever close the hundreds of sites per week that the site moderators reported?

The answer is very simple and the same situation applies here. Advertising revenue, based upon the total number of sites&#33; In the case of Kazaa, the same situation applies. They cannot and will not block K-Lite users&#33; They will tell the public that they are going to but they won&#39;t because they need the sheer volume of people entering their site for the advertising revenue. They have done their job now, they stopped the future versions of K-Lite from being created and posted on the internet, but you can be sure that they will not stop it&#39;s use for those who are already using it.

Kazaa numbers have already declined from 4 million per day to 3.2 million people a day. This drop had absolutely nothing to do with K-Lite users&#33; The drop came about in late July - August when the RIAA announced that it was going to sue file sharing users. There has been absolutely no drop in the users due to the closing down of the Kazaa Lite sites.

Kazaa cannot afford to have their user numbers brought down to 2 million. It would mean that their advertising rates for pop-ups would be cut in half (if not more). Just like the old GeoCities, they are making a good show of it in a public sense, but they can ill afford to lose half of their customer base. The complainants have been satisfied now and Kazaa will go no further in alienating it&#39;s user base.

However, they might filter out the trading of all versions of K-Lite in the future, so stock up on old versions now, while you still can. LOL. Anywhere from 1.7.1 to 2.4.3 will be a good idea because I can definitely see them disallowing K-Lite to be traded on their servers.

Be of good cheer&#33; Sharing continues&#33; K-Lite continues&#33; Happy sharing&#33; :D