Should I Get The Fragbox...

[Cygnuz-Y]

I just saved $1500 and i found this super cool PC and i want to ask you guys the experts what you think..

Intel®Pentium®42.66GHz 533MHz Front Side Bus Processor - Intel®i845 Chipset
80 GB Hard Drive, 7200 RPM
512MB DDR Memory - Upgrades to 1024MB Available
nVidia GeForceFX 5600 Ultra 128MB Graphics Card
16X Black DVD-Rom
1.44MB Black Floppy Drive
Intel USB 2.0 controller 4 Ports
1394a Firewire controller with 3 Ports
10/100 Network Interface Port
Digital & Analog 6-Channel Sound
Microsoft Windows XP Home
nVidia NVDVD Dolby Digital DVD software
Emergency System Recovery DVD

https://www.falcon-nw.com/images/FragBox-Full-System-huge.jpg

Fragbox $995
Logitech Cordless MX Duo $100
NEC MultiSync LCD 1560v-BK 15" LCD $349
Final Price $1,444.00

Must of you will say to build the system myself but i did a little search and in the end the price comes the same, so what you think should i get it... :blink:

[Twist3r]

that would be so awsome for lan parties!! :D

i would love a fragbox but i have no money :(

i say go for it :D

[Cygnuz-Y]

Yes i know :lol:

Now the only prob is that i need a credit card to hold thos $1444 mine only holds $1000

:(

[Livy]

if i aint mistaken that looks like a ecube. if you do it yourself you can customize some areas. and you know exactly what your getting, or you could base it on a shuttle mini cube. which is alot more know. and who kinda gets more asociated with mini systems in my view.? and personally if its a gaming machine arent you btetter with a crt monitor

[Cygnuz-Y]

Yep, but remember taking a CRT to Lan Parties sucks...

[Livy]

ive never had a lan party, do you go to alot of lan parties?

[Cygnuz-Y]

i used to when i was in Guatemala but i just moved to canada and i have to find people who makes them...

[Livy]

i live in the uk, and used the site. http://www.overclockers.co.uk and got a comparable amd syste, for £515 just the system, no monitor etc. im not sure how that would equate to your currency, but i think its cheaper, and if i looked around im sure i could save maybe another few quid.

edit: Specs

shuttle xpc sn45g
athlon 2500xp, barton core.
512mb corsair ram
seagate 80gb
hercules, ati radeon 9600 256mb
samsung,black, cd-rw/dvd combo drive
black floppy

[Cygnuz-Y]

gonna look into that, thanks...

[Livy]

Originally posted by Cygnuz-Y@11 December 2003 - 03:59
gonna look into that, thanks...
np. if i looked im sure i could maybe get it for around £450, as that place is slightly dearer than ebuyer etc, but they do have great stuff

[abu_has_the_power]

the fragbox didn't very good ratings on Computer Shopper. Try the Q-Box. same thing. but got better shit for ur dough


lol


it's not bad


might be cheaper if u buy a fragbox case and build urself. microcenter sells them. so does most resellers

[Cygnuz-Y]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@11 December 2003 - 04:45
the fragbox didn't very good ratings on Computer Shopper. Try the Q-Box. same thing. but got better shit for ur dough


lol


it's not bad


might be cheaper if u buy a fragbox case and build urself. microcenter sells them. so does most resellers
Buying just the case is a nice idea, thanks

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Cygnuz&#045;Y+10 December 2003 - 23:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cygnuz-Y @ 10 December 2003 - 23:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@11 December 2003 - 04:45
the fragbox didn&#39;t very good ratings on Computer Shopper. Try the Q-Box. same thing. but got better shit for ur dough


lol


it&#39;s not bad


might be cheaper if u buy a fragbox case and build urself. microcenter sells them. so does most resellers
Buying just the case is a nice idea, thanks [/b][/quote]
i know they have this exact case without the skull thing at microcenter.

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

15"?Dude.....you need at least a 21". :P

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@10 December 2003 - 23:52
15"?Dude.....you need at least a 21". :P
and add bout 1000 to that price, which is already pretty high for a pc with only a nvidia 5600.


cygnuz, go ahead and build urself a better one.

[Cygnuz-Y]

I cant find the fucking case in microcenter <_< :angry:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Cygnuz&#045;Y@10 December 2003 - 23:55
I cant find the fucking case in microcenter&nbsp; <_<&nbsp; :angry:
visit the store

i&#39;m sure its on their site somewhere. i have lots of stuff to do, or i&#39;d have given u a link

[Livy]

http://www.cubesystemz.com/

that looks like the same case, the same type of mini cases usually come with board aswell so there usually under barebone systems.

youd prob be better going for a shuttle mini barebone system.

[muchspl2]

don&#39;t be stupid unless you like wasting your money, build it

[abu_has_the_power]

but cygnuz, unless u really need the mobility, u can build urself a monster pc with 1500. u can have at least a 9800xt with p4 something extreme edition, or u can just get a full tower, buy wc, and get a 2.4c or soemthing and oc it heavily. with 1500 to spare, u got lots of options

[Cygnuz-Y]

Originally posted by muchspl2@11 December 2003 - 04:59
don&#39;t be stupid unless you like wasting your money, build it
You are right, its time to start shopping at newegg, thank you guys

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Cygnuz&#045;Y+11 December 2003 - 00:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cygnuz-Y @ 11 December 2003 - 00:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-muchspl2@11 December 2003 - 04:59
don&#39;t be stupid unless you like wasting your money, build it
You are right, its time to start shopping at newegg, thank you guys [/b][/quote]
or svc and frozencpu and other resellers. newegg is ok, but shipping is outrageous

[Cygnuz-Y]

What do you think now:

http://store.yahoo.com/svcompucycle/newin865chel1.html

PRICE: 288.99

INTEL® PENTIUM® 4 PROCESSOR (512K / 800MHZ)
PRICE: &#036;232.99

http://store.yahoo.com/svcompucycle/35drivbayvrf.html

Instead of a stupid Floppy PRICE: 16.99

PC3200 512MB 400MHZ DDR INFINEON 184-PIN DIMM

PRICE : 84.99

Samsung SM-352BENB 52X24X52CDRW+16DVD Combo Drive (OEM), Black

PRICE : 66.99

TOTAL PRICE : 605.96

watcha think?

[Virtualbody1234]

INTEL® PENTIUM® 4 PROCESSOR (512K / 800MHZ)
PRICE: &#036;232.99
What speed CPU is that?

and have you compared how much it would cost with an AMD Athlon XP ? You could probably make that a DVD burner with the price savings.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@11 December 2003 - 00:32

INTEL® PENTIUM® 4 PROCESSOR (512K / 800MHZ)
PRICE: &#036;232.99
What speed CPU is that?

and have you compared how much it would cost with an AMD Athlon XP ? You could probably make that a DVD burner with the price savings.
if he likes p4, let him stick with p4. cygnuz, if u want p4, go with it. a bit more expensive, but it comes out o the box as the speed it says. and p4&#39;s generate a lot less heat. very useful in small boxes. u might want to try anohter kind o ram. i have the infineon, and it&#39;s not too good. it&#39;s ok, but not really good quality

[Cygnuz-Y]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@11 December 2003 - 05:32

INTEL® PENTIUM® 4 PROCESSOR (512K / 800MHZ)
PRICE: &#036;232.99
What speed CPU is that?

and have you compared how much it would cost with an AMD Athlon XP ? You could probably make that a DVD burner with the price savings.
thats a 2.6 GHZ, but it seems that the motherboard is for P4 and not AMD and is the only one they have :(

[Mïcrösöül°V³]

falcon northwest makes that box, and it seems a little limited in expansion ability. i think its only good if your always taking your comp to lan parties (like was stated earlier). i would rather build up my tower instead of a little ratbox, but thats just my opinion. :P

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mïcrösöül°V³@11 December 2003 - 00:45
falcon northwest makes that box, and it seems a little limited in expansion ability. i think its only good if your always taking your comp to lan parties (like was stated earlier). i would rather build up my tower instead of a little ratbox, but thats just my opinion. :P
yea. that&#39;s wat i was saying. u can oc ur p4 or amd, and add wc to ur tower. with this, u can&#39;t even add case fans. i&#39;d still go with a tower. 1500 will build u a monster pc

[Cygnuz-Y]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power+11 December 2003 - 05:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (abu_has_the_power @ 11 December 2003 - 05:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mïcrösöül°V³@11 December 2003 - 00:45
falcon northwest makes that box, and it seems a little limited in expansion ability. i think its only good if your always taking your comp to lan parties (like was stated earlier). i would rather build up my tower instead of a little ratbox, but thats just my opinion. :P
yea. that&#39;s wat i was saying. u can oc ur p4 or amd, and add wc to ur tower. with this, u can&#39;t even add case fans. i&#39;d still go with a tower. 1500 will build u a monster pc [/b][/quote]
you are right, what should i get then?

remember i dont have a monitor...

[Mïcrösöül°V³]

buy a dell or some shit. you get a nice monitor and a decent comp, with all the trimmings, and youll have room to mod the damn thing, or you can build your own. a nice monitor will set ya back about &#036;200.00(us). but if you buy a decent OEM comp, you can get a good deal for the same price as that ratbox. that box is for peeps who have alot of money and like to frag at lan parties. if you dont frag, then get a tower and shit on that ratbox. :D DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DONT BUY IT. YOU&#39;LL BE SORRY LATER WHEN YOU CAN&#39;T UPGRADE THAT PIECE OF SHIT. (again, just my opinion) <_<

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Mïcrösöül°V³@11 December 2003 - 01:22
buy a dell or some shit. you get a nice monitor and a decent comp, with all the trimmings, and youll have room to mod the damn thing, or you can build your own. a nice monitor will set ya back about &#036;200.00(us). but if you buy a decent OEM comp, you can get a good deal for the same price as that ratbox. that box is for peeps who have alot of money and like to frag at lan parties. if you dont frag, then get a tower and shit on that ratbox. :D DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DONT BUY IT. YOU&#39;LL BE SORRY LATER WHEN YOU CAN&#39;T UPGRADE THAT PIECE OF SHIT. (again, just my opinion) <_<
fuck no man. a dell? u kidding?

build one cygnuz.

here&#39;s some good recs:

p4 2.4c
some kind of good wc
radeon 9800xt
mobo chipset: 875
u know, all the good stuff

and ram, go with pc3200 corsair or kingston

cuz u need good ram to oc.

then u got everything. as for monitor, find one for less than 300, and ur good

u can build all this for 1200 for sure

[Mïcrösöül°V³]

i agree abu, i was just thinking he could get a monitor bundled with it. and if he aint OC&#39;ing, a dell would be fine (not that i endorse OEM, cuz i think they rip you off). but yea, building your own comp is the BEST way to go, get an ASUS board, a P4 478 pin, and 3200 ddr ram, that IS the way to go. BTW, my comp is a gateway, with an intel bios (cuz i found out my board is intel d850gb) with RDRAM, and i have no problems, ever since i dumped all the gateway shit, lol :P

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by Cygnuz&#045;Y@10 December 2003 - 22:32
I just saved &#036;1500 and i found this super cool PC and i want to ask you guys the experts what you think..

Intel®Pentium®42.66GHz 533MHz Front Side Bus Processor - Intel®i845 Chipset
80 GB Hard Drive, 7200 RPM
512MB DDR Memory - Upgrades to 1024MB Available
nVidia GeForceFX 5600 Ultra 128MB Graphics Card
16X Black DVD-Rom
1.44MB Black Floppy Drive
Intel USB 2.0 controller 4 Ports
1394a Firewire controller with 3 Ports
10/100 Network Interface Port
Digital & Analog 6-Channel Sound
Microsoft Windows XP Home
nVidia NVDVD Dolby Digital DVD software
Emergency System Recovery DVD

https://www.falcon-nw.com/images/FragBox-Full-System-huge.jpg

Fragbox &#036;995
Logitech Cordless MX Duo &#036;100
NEC MultiSync LCD 1560v-BK 15" LCD &#036;349
Final Price &#036;1,444.00

Must of you will say to build the system myself but i did a little search and in the end the price comes the same, so what you think should i get it... :blink:
anyone remember GCN and his 5700 ultra overheat issue?

well he built the PC using the EXACT SAME CASE (www.AMSelectronics.com), and it has double the HDD space, a 5700ultra, a dvdburner (no firewire tho) for 1000 on its own. so i think building the PC with a case from AMS gives u the same result but better

btw wxphome sux

[Cygnuz-Y]

Thanks for all your help but i think im going for the tower... :lol:

[RGX]

I like those cases alot but ive checked the links and they are all intel based, anyone know if anyone in the uk does purely the case? Just so I can buy the motherboard etc. myself?

[abu_has_the_power]

since u got a shitload of &#036;, get urself a cool case. like a xaser or xsuperalien. or just mod up a cheiftec

[_John_Lennon_]

www.newegg.com ---&#62; Computer Hardware ---&#62; show by catagory ---&#62; Barebones ---&#62; Summary view.

Result: http://www.newegg.com/app/listProduct.asp?...rtby=11&order=0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/listProduct.asp?submit=list&catalog=3&DEPA=1&sortby=11&order=0)

is it that hard to find, newegg has it all.

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/56-101-216-09.JPG

This would be more along the lines of what I would want should I get the money for it, *180

The Frag box, is at the bottom.

Btw, the Epox one also looks pretty cool, it also has the VERY handy and usable LCD screen built into the front.

[abu_has_the_power]

i thought cygnuz changed his mind and now want&#39;s a full tower... :huh:

well, cygnuz, go ahead and build a full tower. with 1500, u can build a monster.

like i said b4.

[Cygnuz-Y]

I think im getting this one... :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...T925-2004&Tab=1 (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=558336&Sku=T925-2004&Tab=1)

What do you think? :rolleyes:

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Cygnuz&#045;Y@11 December 2003 - 21:00
I think im getting this one... :

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...T925-2004&Tab=1 (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=558336&Sku=T925-2004&Tab=1)

What do you think? :rolleyes:
dude. that&#39;s a mid tower. it&#39;ll be harder to fit a wc system in there. besides, thats like more expensive than the xaser full towers.

[abu_has_the_power]

try these:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....atalog=7&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-133-106&catalog=7&depa=1)

or:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....atalog=7&depa=1 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-133-117&catalog=7&depa=1)

[bigdawgfoxx]

Ive never seen that black steel case..must be new or something..looks nice but kinda high..andd it is a full tower ABU...Both of ABUs cases are good too.