Flashing Bios

[abu_has_the_power]

if u havn't heard me talking b4, i cant change the fsb:ram ratio or vcore voltage or anything. my bios is all fucked up. if i flash bios, would i solve the prob? cuz i have the boot disk ready for flashing the bios, just need to know if it will work. thanks

EDIT: here's a link to my mobo:
http://www.cptech.com.tw/page2/productlist...&sn=87&temp1=49 (http://www.cptech.com.tw/page2/productlist.asp?page=2&prodid=87&id=2&sn=87&temp1=49)

and my bios is:
made by pheonix tech.

[Kunal]

Abu, before flashing have you tried reseting your cmos? and do you know if the new bios can do this?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Kunal@14 December 2003 - 11:11
Abu, before flashing have you tried reseting your cmos? and do you know if the new bios can do this?
i've done that. resetting cmos only resets ur bios to default. it's doesn't really solve this prob though

[Snee]

Try getting a new button-cell battery, for the CMOS Chip.

Usually when settings don't get saved this is the prob.

[clocker]

Originally posted by SnnY@14 December 2003 - 10:12
Try getting a new button-cell battery, for the CMOS Chip.

Usually when settings don't get saved this is the prob.
I don't think the problem is that Abu is losing settings, it's that he can't access the settings he needs to OC.

Abu, do you know if the upgraded BIOS will enable the settings you seek?

[Snee]

Originally posted by clocker+14 December 2003 - 18:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker &#064; 14 December 2003 - 18:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SnnY@14 December 2003 - 10:12
Try getting a new button-cell battery, for the CMOS Chip.

Usually when settings don&#39;t get saved this is the prob.
I don&#39;t think the problem is that Abu is losing settings, it&#39;s that he can&#39;t access the settings he needs to OC.

Abu, do you know if the upgraded BIOS will enable the settings you seek? [/b][/quote]
Oh he&#39;s doing oc&#39;s or something then?

Sometimes to enable the right settings, you may have to unlock something on the cpu, make a mod on the hardware, has this been done?

Lynx is the expert at these things I think, I haven&#39;t done anything like it in quite a while.

EDit: wording

[clocker]

Originally posted by SnnY@14 December 2003 - 10:43


Sometimes to enable the right settings, you may have to unlock something on the cpu, make a mod on the hardware, has this been done?


Abu runs Intel stuff...not my area at all, so I don&#39;t know.

With my AMD board/chip, all the settings he wants are right out in the open in BIOS. No hardware trickery at all....


Heeheehee... :P

[lynx]

I don&#39;t know that board so I can&#39;t really help, and there&#39;s no manual on the site to look at.

I think it is unlikely that a bios upgrade will suddenly make the options available - either they will already be there or they won&#39;t. Bios upgrades are usually for bug fixes or to support more processors, not improved features on the board itself.

Abu, it may be that the features you are looking for are already present, but not described as you might be expecting. If you make a note of the bios pages related to memory and cpu timing and post the details (or scan the manual pages relating to bios setup if you&#39;ve got them) it may be possible to help you.

[abu_has_the_power]

well, under bios settings, there 3 things: 1 says fox ... 2: fox ... 3. foxspeed where i can change clock speed

in adv bios settings, theres a bunch of stuff bout 1st boot and 2nd boot and stuff, and nothing about ratios or voltages. :blink: :unsure:

[abu_has_the_power]

so will flashing bios fix my prob?

[clocker]

It really doesn&#39;t sound like it.
Doesn&#39;t your board maker tell you what the flash will do?

[lynx]

Clocker, I&#39;ve looked at the site, it tells you almost nothing. I honestly can&#39;t understand why they&#39;ve even bothered having an internet presence.

Abu, sorry to have to say this to you again, but you need to check what sort of support you are likely to get before buying hardware. In this case it is virtually nothing.

[Virtualbody1234]

Again. If you don&#39;t know enough about what your doing, don&#39;t overclock.

[abu_has_the_power]

it&#39;s not that i dont&#39; know how. it&#39;s that i can&#39;t do it. :angry: i&#39;ll call powercolor somehow. or call ibuypower

[clocker]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 December 2003 - 15:50
it&#39;s not that i dont&#39; know how. it&#39;s that i can&#39;t do it. :angry: i&#39;ll call powercolor somehow. or call ibuypower
You do that.
Tell them that even though Abu has the power, he doesn&#39;t have enough power.

Perhaps "ibuypower" has some to spare...

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by clocker+16 December 2003 - 19:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 16 December 2003 - 19:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@16 December 2003 - 15:50
it&#39;s not that i dont&#39; know how. it&#39;s that i can&#39;t do it.&nbsp; :angry: i&#39;ll call powercolor somehow. or call ibuypower
You do that.
Tell them that even though Abu has the power, he doesn&#39;t have enough power.

Perhaps "ibuypower" has some to spare... [/b][/quote]
lol. maybe i can "buy" some power from ibuypower, aye? lol. funny, but not very helpful clocker

[clocker]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 December 2003 - 17:19
funny, but not very helpful clocker
Sometimes one must take what one can get, Abu.

At least I&#39;m talking to you, which is more than can be said of your boardmaker....

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@16 December 2003 - 16:50
it&#39;s not that i dont&#39; know how. it&#39;s that i can&#39;t do it.&nbsp; :angry: i&#39;ll call powercolor somehow. or call ibuypower
Strange, you know how, yet you can&#39;t do it. Then you come here and ask us to help you with it?

You&#39;ve got to be kidding.

You either get it, or you don&#39;t.



abu_has_no_power calls Powercolor and ibuypower and asks them for help about this and...

Oh boy, would I like to be there to hear their reaction.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+16 December 2003 - 19:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 16 December 2003 - 19:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-abu_has_the_power@16 December 2003 - 16:50
it&#39;s not that i dont&#39; know how. it&#39;s that i can&#39;t do it. :angry: i&#39;ll call powercolor somehow. or call ibuypower
Strange, you know how, yet you can&#39;t do it. Then you come here and ask us to help you with it?

You&#39;ve got to be kidding.

You either get it, or you don&#39;t.



abu_has_no_power calls Powercolor and ibuypower and asks them for help about this and...

Oh boy, would I like to be there to hear their reaction. [/b][/quote]
(cry) no one likes me. :cry1:

[clocker]

That&#39;s not true, Abu.

The makers of cold cathodes love you.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by clocker@16 December 2003 - 21:14
That&#39;s not true, Abu.

The makers of cold cathodes love you.
i only have 2 man.

and seriously, what can i do other than call powercolor and ibuypwer?

[3RA1N1AC]

have you checked out the possibility that those options are available in the BIOS, but they are hidden? some BIOSes require you to press a certain key in order to reveal hidden options (like ones related to overclocking).

[Kunal]

you could see if there is a hacked bios avalible, i wouldnt reccomend one though.

[muchspl2]

I hope he solves it , cause I can laugh when he post how he fucked something up :P

[clocker]

Jeez Abu, your manufacturer has the least helpful website that I&#39;ve ever seen.
I can&#39;t manage to get into their motherboard FAQ at all.
Much less get any info about the BIOS.

Unless you can download a whole new board I&#39;m guessing that you are SOL pal.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by clocker@17 December 2003 - 10:22
Jeez Abu, your manufacturer has the least helpful website that I&#39;ve ever seen.
I can&#39;t manage to get into their motherboard FAQ at all.
Much less get any info about the BIOS.

Unless you can download a whole new board I&#39;m guessing that you are SOL pal.
lol. yea. powercolor is a taiwanese company. lol. damn people can&#39;t make websites for dog shit. guess i&#39;ll call ibuypower

[clocker]

Is ibuypower a online retailer?

If so, please tape your conversation with them.
It should be humorous in the extreme.

I&#39;ll bet &#036;10 that they don&#39;t even know what BIOS is...

[lynx]

I&#39;ll match your &#036;10 and raise you &#036;20

This is the gambling forum isn&#39;t it. :D

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by lynx@17 December 2003 - 21:25
I&#39;ll match your &#036;10 and raise you &#036;20

This is the gambling forum isn&#39;t it. :D
so ur betting that they know bios or don&#39;t know bios? if they know bios, will u pay me? i need hte &#036;. i&#39;m a poor poor man living in a ups box. lol.


and is there no way to "unlock" or "unhide" the settings in my bios?

[clocker]

Abu, has it not dawned on you yet that you are asking the wrong people?

If there are hidden settings ( was this BIOS designed by the creators of MYST?) only another owner or the makers will be able to tell you.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by clocker@17 December 2003 - 21:40
Abu, has it not dawned on you yet that you are asking the wrong people?

If there are hidden settings ( was this BIOS designed by the creators of MYST?) only another owner or the makers will be able to tell you.
yea. i noticed that a long time ago. but i also thought hardware geniuses such are urselves might be able to share ur wisedom. guess not. lol. i&#39;m called ibuypower tomorow. in the meantime, how bout that bet. if they know bout bios, will u send me the &#036;?

[clocker]

Our "wisedom", such as it is, was to call the manufacturer.
I believe that this was imparted to you a few pages ago.

You owe me &#036;20 just for hanging onto this thread for so long...

[lynx]

Clocker, you cheapskate.

I want international call rates too.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by lynx@17 December 2003 - 21:58
Clocker, you cheapskate.

I want international call rates too.
huh? :huh: well, i&#39;m not gonna call powercolor, unless someone here wants to help me pay the phone bill. i&#39;ll call ibuypwer, which has a 1888 #

[Virtualbody1234]

Don&#39;t you realize that as soon as you tell them you want overclocking settings they&#39;re going to tell you... "We don&#39;t support overclocking." or something to that effect.

@clocker: &#036;10 and a beer that that is what they&#39;ll tell him.

abu, you&#39;ll need proof. Don&#39;t forget to record the conversation and post it here as an mp3.

[atiVidia]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@17 December 2003 - 23:37
Don&#39;t you realize that as soon as you tell them you want overclocking settings they&#39;re going to tell you... "We don&#39;t support overclocking." or something to that effect.

@clocker: &#036;10 and a beer that that is what they&#39;ll tell him.

abu, you&#39;ll need proof. Don&#39;t forget to record the conversation and post it here as an mp3.
convos cannot be recorded lest both parties know about it

if the intended target sues u cuz u didnt tell him u recorded the convo, ur skrewd

[abu_has_the_power]

lol. my phone has a recording feature. then i&#39;ll just record as an mp3 using my mic on the comp. but r u sure ur paying me?

and yea, i know they don&#39;t support ocing, but ibuypower said they are fine with it as long as my cpu doesn&#39;t burn up. then my warranty is void. but if it doesn&#39;t burn up, it&#39;s fine. i&#39;m not gonna oc too high. just around 2.8-3.0

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by atiVidia@17 December 2003 - 23:41
convos cannot be recorded lest both parties know about it

if the intended target sues u cuz u didnt tell him u recorded the convo, ur skrewd
bullshit

its legal in most states if they don&#39;t have the "may be monitored statement"
state_laws (http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-us.htm#State%20Laws%20(Table))
and if they do have the message that states "for quality control this call may be monitored" that means they have the right to recored you, by staying on you give complied consent, so you can recored them as 2 party consent legally

[clocker]

Originally posted by atiVidia@17 December 2003 - 21:41

convos cannot be recorded lest both parties know about it

if the intended target sues u cuz u didnt tell him u recorded the convo, ur skrewd
In the US a consumer has the right to record any conversation regarding a business transaction.
They record us all the time.

Turnabout is fair play.

[Virtualbody1234]

i&#39;m not gonna oc too high. just around 2.8-3.0
You think that&#39;s not too high? Good luck&#33;

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@18 December 2003 - 08:58

i&#39;m not gonna oc too high. just around 2.8-3.0
You think that&#39;s not too high? Good luck&#33;
do u oc vb? most people with the p4 2.4c oc up to 3.2 with stock hsf. it&#39;s not that hard.

[Virtualbody1234]

Try it first and tell us how it goes before you say it&#39;ll work.

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@18 December 2003 - 17:56
Try it first and tell us how it goes before you say it&#39;ll work.
thats the prob. i can&#39;t even try it cuz my ram is limiting my fsb to only 233 (2.8ghz). unless i change the fsb:ram ratio or boost up my vcore, i can&#39;t get 3.2ghz. <_< :angry:

[clocker]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 December 2003 - 16:05

thats the prob. i can&#39;t even try it cuz my ram is limiting my fsb to only 233 (2.8ghz). unless i change the fsb:ram ratio or boost up my vcore, i can&#39;t get 3.2ghz. <_< :angry:
Yes, Abu.
We knew that five days ago&#33;

Right now it would appear that the most severe limiting factor is your inability to pick up a phone.